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2013 $50 Uncirculated Gold Eagle on sale today at noon

Discussion in 'PM's - Coins - Numis - Base Metals' started by hernancortes, Jun 6, 2013.



  1. hernancortes

    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Sales @ week 27:

    2011: 7316
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7326 sold out @ wk 27
    2014: 6193
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Sales @ week 28:

    2011: 7674
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
    2014: 6363
     
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    MrLucky Silver Member Silver Miner

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    I can hear the price of the 2012 coin going higher...
     

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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Yea, the 2012 is definitely safe for another year at least -- no short strike of the 2014. My hunch is they struck about 7,000 of the '14's, which will make it decent for a long term play. The mint tends to strike fewer than the prior year's sales to play it safe. Frankly as of today the '13 spouses look like a better shot.
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Sales @ week 29:

    2011: 7745
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
    2014: 6749
     
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    savvydon Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Big week for sales.
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Sales @ week 30:

    2011: 7894
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
    2014: 7130
     
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    MrLucky Silver Member Silver Miner

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    Ten characters
     

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    the next question... when will the Mint announce the "sale out"?
    and one more... per the greysheet, why does 2011 cost more than 2013?

    2012 remains king but when it's all said and done, 2014 will be interesting
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    I would expect a sellout soon. With sales like this the mint can be expected to strike about this many of next year's coin too, which means the 2012 will be safe for awhile yet.
     
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    1) proof gold eagles
    2) proof gold buffalo
    3) proof gold spouses
    4) unc gold spouses
    5) bullion gold eagles
    6) bullion gold buffalo
    7) 2015 24kt UHR
    8) unc gold eagle

    that's a lot of gold to choose from next year given the offers. I believe the unc eagle and hags will remain low in terms of mintage on the list. Between bullion, the new UHR and proof eagles, those alone are +3000FRNs.

    but if sales remain under 8000, the unc eagle will remain a good overall choice to have in the stash
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Can't edit my last post. The total for 2014 in wk 31 should be 7458 not 7354.
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Sales @ week 33:

    2011: 7885
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
    2014: 7630
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Probably see an adjustment in next weeks report... see you guys when the '15 arrives

    Sales @ week 34:

    2011: 7944
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
    2014: 7794 sold out @ wk 34
     
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    I will try and add as hernancortes and MrLucky update...

    'Coin Dealer' ask pricing(in fiat)... as of Jan 02 2015

    2011: $2400
    2012: $2775
    2013: $1500
    2014: ?????
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    2014 @ week 35: 7916
     
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    MrLucky Silver Member Silver Miner

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    I was waiting for the coin to 'flat line' but figured everyone else might be waiting for a chart.
     

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    MrLucky Silver Member Silver Miner

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    The mint must be adjusting the numbers...

    2014 @ week 36: 7901

    2014 @ week 37: 7894

    2014 @ week 38: 7898
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    I"ve been negligent, let's just start it up again for kicks:
    CUMULATIVE SALES AT WEEK 14 OF AVAILABILITY, $50 GOLD UNC-W A.G.E.

    2011: 4145
    2012: 5487
    2013: 5480
    2014: 3970
    2015: 3791

    P.S. --- 1000 POSTS!! go me
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    ...Week 15

    2011: 4954
    2012: 5524
    2013: 5551
    2014: 4083
    2015: 3850
     
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    Same NUMBER today on sales from 8-11-15

    http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/cumulativeSalesStatistics/

    3,850 on 2015 W I oz AGE burnished... UNCHANGED like near many of the spouses...

    Just too many other gold coins to chose from
    BUFFs
    AGE proofs
    Liberty
    Spouses
    Commemoratives

    Did the same type thing in many prior years from the 1800s - and made LOTS of rare MINTED coins (think 2008!) (think 1996!) think think think...

    You name it... Mint flooded the PM coin market and the collector market is BUSTED with no cash flow...


    PS the speculator, investor, and smart (bankster) money - PM market on the other hand is turning slowly around now - who KNOWS?
    But if it really goes crazy (read UPWARD and BEYOND) then many folks will be surprised... right?

    DYODD
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 16

    2011: 5142
    2012: 5600
    2013: 5635
    2014: 4319
    2015: 4059
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 17:

    2011: 5229
    2012: 5606
    2013: 5663
    2014: 4342
    2015: 4282
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Week 18:

    2011: 5508
    2012: 5719
    2013: 5725
    2014: 5403
    2015: 4446
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 19:

    2011: 5540
    2012: 5796
    2013: 5730
    2014: 5442
    2015: 4573
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Week 20
    2011: 5622
    2012: 6118 (sold out)
    2013: 6765
    2014: 5466
    2015: 4606
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 21:

    2011: 5817
    2012: 6114 sold out
    2013: 7096
    2014: 5517
    2015: 4696
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 22:

    2011: 5919
    2012: 6114 sold out
    2013: 7070
    2014: 5579
    2015: 4983 ( edit: the official mint report for week 22 now has it at 3,991 which makes no sense... there's not nearly enough coins eligible to be returned from week 21)
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 23:

    2011: 6161
    2012: 6114 sold out
    2013: 7043
    2014: 5677
    2015: 5194
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 24:

    2011: 6478
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7134
    2014: 5787
    2015: 5351
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 25

    2011: 6570
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7196
    2014: 5900
    2015: 5494
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 26:

    2011: 6769
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7329 (went red)
    2014: 6044
    2015: 5576
     
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    MrLucky Silver Member Silver Miner

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    I'm still tracking these on the spreadsheet along with the other years. I'll post it when they sell out. Maybe I'll put it in my dropbox folder if anyone wants a copy.
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 27:

    2011: 7316
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7326 sold out @ wk 27
    2014: 6193
    2015: 5603
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 28:

    2011: 7674
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
    2014: 6363
    2015: 5623
     
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    In the long run, IMHO stick with close to melt Bullion-like issues.......too much product, chances any of these contrived for profit issues booming is very, very slim.
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    In general you're right and this coin costs about $250 more than a common gold eagle, but the whole point of keeping track of this is to see whether it has a shot at becoming key. If for some reason this coin would go off sale anytime soon, it would be key and you'd see $2000 (raw) real quick on it in short order, irrespective of what gold spot does. We are in the time window right now whee the mint will not strike any more of these coins. It's unlikely they struck much fewer than 7000 but you never know.
     
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    Investment vs. Collectible... There is a difference.

    Given the products
    1) Bullion Gold Eagles
    2) Uncirculated Gold Eagles
    3) Proof Gold Eagles

    It all depends on the individual.
    From a profit perspective, yes the uncirculated eagle takes more FRNs than a bullion eagle but time has shown that (with gold over 1000FRN), many cannot afford all of the US Mints given products.

    Since most cannot tell the difference between the bullion and uncirculated, the unc. does not move as the other coins. With a mintage that is low and the aftermarket being interested in the coin, the price of all unc. gold eagles is attractive. This numismatic element of the unc. eagle IMO makes it a coin to invest in, if it could be afforded.

    Similar to penny vs premium stocks
     
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    hernancortes Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    week 29:

    2011: 7745
    2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
    2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
    2014: 6749
    2015: 5750
     

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