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2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary Silver Medals

Discussion in 'PM's - Coins - Numis - Base Metals' started by Silver Art, May 17, 2017.



  1. Silver Art

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    Yup...might be interesting but it all depends on mintage limits
     
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    More information on the 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary medals from Coinworld:

    United States Mint Announcement: 2017-W American Liberty Silver Medal Set for June 14 Release

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    https://www.coinweek.com/us-mint-ne...liberty-silver-medal-set-for-june-14-release/
     
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    The 4-coin set will be added to the collection along side its older sibling.
    With a cheaper price tag, I will assume that both the single coin and set will have a higher mintage sell.
     
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    There is now a picture of the 2017-W American Liberty 225th Anniversary Silver Medal on the USMint order page in the link in my OP but there appears to be an error on the picture. The 1st medal to be released on June 14, 2017 is supposed to be minted by the West Point facility but the picture of the medal on the USMint.gov order page shows the reverse side of the medal with a "P" mark ("P" = Philadelphia mint mark). Just an observation.
     
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    Item Number: 17XB
    Mintage Limit: None
    Product Limit: None
    Household Order Limit: None
     
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    I also noticed that the USMint.gov order page now reflects that the Philadelphia location will mint the 1st silver medal instead of the West Point location which also matches the picture of the 2017-P American Liberty silver medal. I suspect that the initial information was just a mistake on their part. As for the mintage limit...........very interesting. Unless they are going to update the maximum mintage number later on, then this means unlimited mintage or maybe"minted to demand" so no "sell out" if there is no mintage limit. If I am wrong on this, then feel free to correct me.

    Like the 2017 American Liberty gold version picture, I think that the picture of the silver version does not do it any justice IMO. I think that it will look better in hand than what the picture shows. JMHO.
     
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    As it stands right now you are correct...they will be minted until no one wants them any more...

    Usually the Mint is firm with mintage limits as announced though. It's just the HH limits that change at the last minute but no reason for HH limits right now

    Dampened my interest for sure....
     
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    Now we shouldn't see any artificially pumped up secondary market because of perceived shortage. The only reason to get one is if you actually want one...pretty radical. :idea:
     
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    How weird is THAT concept...:green tea:
     
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    ...and a bargain at $59.95.....:thumbs down:
     
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    I knew that it was not going to be cheap given the greed of the USMint. At that $59.95 price point, I plan to buy one and only one for the same reason that I bought the gold version.....................I actually like the coin. I also plan to buy the 4-silver medal set that is supposed to come out later this year. The goal is to complete the set of 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary set (1 gold + 5 total silver medals).
     
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    $59.95 price + Unlimited mintage = Any one that wants one can buy one without it being gone in 60 seconds.

    The USMint "pendulum" swings wide between the 2015 American Liberty medals and the 2017 American Liberty medals. It swung from $34.95(???) + 12,000 mintage sellout for the 2015 version to $59.95 + unlimted mintage for the 2017 version.
     
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    I think I'll hold off, and try to get a slabbed coin for close to the issue price. It seems alot of sellers are finally including the OGP with slabbed coins. However, for some reason the ATB's are a different story.
     
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    "I think I'll hold off, and try to get a slabbed coin for close to the issue price"

    ...or less
     
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    Price is too high. I'm with Art. I will get one because I like it. No flipping here....
     
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    Basically with unlimited mintage, everyone that wants one should be able to get one without fear of a lightning quick sellout. While that is good for collectors that really want one because they like it, it will not have any future premium appreciation and, like savvydon said, there will be no flipping going on with this silver medal. The only people making a profit on this coin will be the USMint. I will also go out on a limb by saying right now that this 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary silver medal that will be released on June 14, 2017 will still be available 2 years from now until at least June 2019 when the next American Liberty silver medal will be released. There is no rush to get this one IMO.

    I cannot speak for the 4-medal set that is supposed to be released later this year. I do not know how the USMint will go about selling this one.
     
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    I don't know. There's alot of crazy assed collector/investors out there. Slabbed coins that are first release, first day of issue, mercanti label, etc etc, seem to work with these people. I bought a 10 ounce Great Britain Queen's Beast coin from Apmex, which is still available right now for just under 200 bucks. Well, Bullion Exchanges is selling a NGC slabbed version, MS70 First Day of Issue for $800.00, four times what I paid, and somebody bought two of them a couple days ago! Ouch!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Great-...564808?hash=item25d7ef2848:g:8LEAAOSwlMFZLz25


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPECIAL-PRI...886041?hash=item1a2d48a819:g:9DYAAOSwX9FZMXJo
     
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    I don't know. With all the crap that's gone on with the ATB mintages, not sure I would believe anything the Mint says, or prints at this point. They say unlimited mintage for this coin, do we believe them suddenly? It'll be interesting to see what happens here.
     
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    They are treating it like the W and Proof Silver Eagles...for sale until we get tired of minting them
     
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    I decided to use some of my crypto profits to order my 2017 American 225th Anniversary 1-oz silver medal. $64.90 total cost which included shipping.
     
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    I picked up aluminum cans all weekend to get mine.
     
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    In my state that's well over a thousand cans....
     
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    I just can't - whoever mentioned that the lady looks like Moochelle 0bama poisoned this coin for me. Just can't pull the trigger.
     
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    I love the depiction of the eagle on the reverse, but the plain/blank background seems empty. Put a mountain in the distance, or something.
     
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    Love the scam they got here in Ca. You pay 5 cents per can when you buy at the store, then when you go through the hassle of storing them all in your garage or whatever, haul them down to the redemption center, they weigh them, and you get about 4 cents back per can! Gotta take them to a scrap yard to make it worth your while monetarily, then you get nails in your tires doing that! LOL
     
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    One by one into the recycle machine in MA...but at least you get 5 cents each
     
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    Yeah, I thought I remembered last year's having a limited mintage. I was unable to acquire one. They sold out quickly.
     
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    Placed order just about 72 hours ago. Got a tracking number The following afternoon (Thursday) tracking number has yet to update to where the package has actually been picked up. Not worried about getting it, but this is the longest I've seen it take yet from the Mint. Apparently they do the Fedex ground to your local post office, then your regular carrier delivers it. Slow motion.
     
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    Yeah that is the same situation with me. Very slow. I guess that is the kind of speed that you get with $4.95 "budget shipping".
     
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    Slow shipping is one thing. Super slow processing is another.
     
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    I guess that the fat cat USMint employees are too busy swimming in all of that cash from that fat premium that they are charging on the 2017 American Liberty silver medal to care about speeding up the processing of the orders from us "little folks".
     
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    Okay SA, what's your guess on sales for the first week, for the Silver Medal? I'm going with 36,773. Probably being way too generous, but we'll see tomorrow, huh? My tracking number that was issued last Thursday, has yet to update past "shipping label created". I'm hoping it's just an input error of the tracking status, but I'm sure it isn't.
     
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    I like to consider myself as an optimistic person but I am getting close to my limits on my optimism on this medal by going out on a limb here by saying that I think that sales for the 1st week for the 2017 silver medal will be 47,331. Given the fact that 26,833 were sold on the 1st day took me by surprise.

    I checked my tracking number yesterday and it is still stuck on "shipping label created" status. SLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!!!! I might check it later today but I do not expect any change in shipping status.
     
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    Same here on the label, just checked a few minutes ago. I'll call them today. 6 days so far is ridiculous.
     
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    What a fvcking waste of time that was. If you haven't received it by 14 days, fill out this form and fax it back to us. Would you like me to re-order this item for you? Huh? I think Maxine Watters took my customer service call.
     
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    On June 15, 2017, I got an email saying that mu order was shipped. Now fast forward to June 20, 2017, my tracking number goes from "shipping label created" to "in transit". YESS!!!!! Progress is being made. The Fed Ex fat cats must have finally decided to ship my medal. I wanted to pull the "You know who I am " card, but I do not have any clout. I am just a "little guy". Bummer..................

    It also look like I will have to wait until tomorrow to see what the 1st week sales of the 2017 American Liberty Silver medal is. The USMint fat cats apparently want to keep us "little guys" in suspense. LOL!!!!
     

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