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Discussion in 'PM's - Coins - Numis - Base Metals' started by GoldWampum, Aug 25, 2010.



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    All right! Good start, Art, now break out the polish. (For the next vid, not the silver :D)

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    3rd episode of the '70's silver art bar show:

     
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    Still tweeking some more. I am kind of winging it with the 1st 3 episodes. LOL!!!!
     
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    This is my 1st time doing youtube videos on '70's silver art bar collecting. I hope to get a little better with it with each episode. I am not sure when my next episode will be. I am currently brainstorming topics relating to silver art bar collecting for my next episode.
     
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    4th episode the The '70's silver art bar show:



    See post # 950 on this thread as a reference.

    I also want to mention that this will be it in terms of episodes for a while, however, I am going to do some brainstorming on the next episode (5th episode) of my '70's silver art bar show channel. Given the fact that old silver art bars are very hard to find, I will not plan to do these on a regular basis. The 1st four episodes were just to get my feet wet on doing this.
     
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    Artimus nice work, silver will make us look like a bunch of goshdamned geniuses real soon.

    Topic for your next vid Sir, Nudy Art Bars and such n such. IMVVHO
     
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    Silver Art Silver Art Bar collector Platinum Bling

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    That could make for a future episode. You never know.
     
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    Episode 5 of the '70's silver art bar show:

     
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    You the man Art. I'd like one of the Marylin bars to hide under a sink somewheres. That lovers bar was pure filth, thinkin mebe i seen a silver hoohaa!

    Looks like a fellow buying close to spot could make some loot. Will be keeping an eye out at the lcs for art bars.
     
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    Stoned you must be to want to hide Marylin under a sink.
    Just the amount people talk about porn and the Romper room type threads on every site got me to buying as many adult themed bars as I could. I ain't sold any yet as I figure if people actually get money again these will [I need a moon shot emothingy].
    Thanks for the vids SA.:2 thumbs up:
     
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    I went to a big coin show today in North Georgia to buy some '70's silver art bars and this was one of the bars that I picked up at the show:

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    It is a gold-plated version of a 1973 Patrick Mint Cable Car 1-oz silver art bar. There are two things that are interesting about this particular purchase. One thing about this bar is that it is a gold-plated version of 1970's Patrick Mint 1-oz silver art bar that I have never seen before until now. There is not one listed in the Archie Kidd book. The 2nd interesting thing about this bar is that it is in "original packaging" which in this case it is in the original stamped envelope. The "012" I believe is the serial number of the envelope and not on the bar since Patrick Mint bars do not have serial numbers stamped on them.

    A very interesting find IMO. I paid $29.00 for it (spot closed at $17.90/oz today).
     
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    Good find Art. I'm jealous. :D

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    I feel good finding old '70's silver art bars that are not listed in the Archie Kidd book. It makes the find feel "special" to me.
     
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    Excellent presentation on that 5th video Artbar more polished than that gritty street thug attitude prevelant in your earlier work. Whoever did the artwork on that love making bar was a perv (in a good way) for sure. I did hear the words "8 dollar silver" in the video LOL.
     
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    Awesome presentations Mr. Art. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. If I may offer a few suggestions. 1) Hold phone sideways while recording. 2) Give viewers a small taste of your knowledge and offer a link where they can purchase the video by accepting bitcoin or our world renowned digital currency called frns. The info you are giving away definitely has a great deal of value.
     
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    "Gritty street thug attitude"???? LOL!!!!!! I like how you described that. I did not realize that I sounded like that in my 1st presentation. LOL!!!! I usually speak about the same but I guess I was nervious in the 1st video and my nerviousnes probably showed. Thanks for the feedback.

    I do not remember anything about $8 silver being said in that video but when I replayed that last video back, I did hear "8 Dollar silver" words in that last video. I think that my subconscious made me said that but did not realize it at that time. I was giving a "hypothetical example" of another silver plunge to $8 and how that would relate to rare silver art bar prices. There are just some silver art bar prices on certain rare silver art bars that would hold up (or even increase) if silver went down to single digits. Silver art bar price elasticity/inelasticity (i.e. silver art bar price sensitivity relative to change in spot silver price) is what I was trying to explain in the video. When silver went from $49 in April 2011 to a $13 handle low in 2016, there were a lot of silver art bar prices (mostly on rare silver art bars) that held up or increased on a dollar basis during that April 2011 - January 2016 time period (silver art bar price inelasticity). On the other hand, in that same April 2011 - January 2016 time period, almost all of the common silver art bar $ prices and the $ prices of certain semi-rare and even some rare silver art bars did decrease on a $ basis relative to spot silver decreasing in $ price (silver art bar price elasticity).
     
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    Thank you for those suggestions. I will think about doing those things especially the phone sideways suggestion. The phone suggestion does make sense to me especially when showing silver art bar(s).

    As for the offering my videos for purchase, I do not plan to do that for the time being mainly because I am not widely known yet on a national level. I am happy with the profits I make on selling '70's silver art bars on ebay and elsewhere online and offline. Even though I give away my knowledge and my observations/experience for free, my knowledge/experience/obervations on this '70's silver art bar hobby pays off in the form of the profits that I make on this silver art bar sideline hobby business when I sell on ebay and to other people online and offline.

    However, If I decide to write a book on silver art bars (not very likely ATM), then I probably will make that available for purchase but do not hold your breath on a silver art bar book by Silver Art since I am not really in author and have never written a book.

    Thanks again for your feedback and suggestions. That will be very helpful to me whenever I make my 6th episode on the '70's silver art bar show.
     
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    I did want to add to what I posted in my last post in response to what you posted in that If I were to write a book on '70's silver art bars (not very likely ATM), it would contain a LOT more information than what I have in my '70's silver art bar show videos and I would charge for the book. I think that given my love for this hobby, I think I could write about a LOOOOOOOOTTTTTTT about this if given a lot of free time but then a again I am not a real author and I have never written a book. It is still a good suggestion and I should consider this down the road if/when I decide to attempt to write a book on it. Maybe 5 more years of collecting experience, 5 more years of selling experience, more knowledge and more observations and then maybe a book is certainly not out of the question.
     
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    Post it here as a collection point.
    Then cut and paste into an eformat program
    when it comes time.
    Just an idea.
     
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    Thank you for the suggestion. Honestly speaking, I have not really thought about that. For the time being, I will concentrate on finding '70's silver art bars to add to my collection and I will continue to concentrate on my side business of selling '70's silver art bars online as well as doing an occasional Youtube video ('70's silver art bar show) on this topic. I am happy enough with that.
     
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    Here is some more information in the below link regarding the original packaging of this particular bar:

    http://www.silverartcollector.com/p...54&sid=c508d56afc226f9463244d60e91a6c81#p6553
     
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    "Yet", he says. Josey, I like your panache. (and your info vids)
    :thumbs up 2:

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    I guess I was subconsciously posing that. You never know. So far this year, I have travelled a large part of the Southeast US looking for old silver art bars and I have been very successful of most of my trips looking for old bars to add to my personal collection. I have also found a lot of old bars locally at the LCS's and the local flea market. As a bonus, I have also found a lot of certain ATB pucks and certain year SAE's (1986, 1994 and 1996 years only) for low prices during my various travels and I flipped most of those and used the profits from those coin flips to buy more '70's silver art bars. All of 2016 and all of 2017 at this point have been very successful years for me as a buyer and as a seller of duplicate '70's silver art bars, SAE's and ATB 5-oz pucks.
     
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    Also as a "mini-update", I do not plan to do another episode of my '70's silver art bar show for a while. With the free time that I have left after working a full-time job, I will concentrate on my side business as well as concentrate on searching for more '70's silver art bars to add to my personal collection. The side business is something that I do only part-time since I work a full-time job. I bank all of the profits that I make from every coin and silver art bar that I sell on ebay. I plan to use most of those FRN profits to make big deals that require a large amount of FRNs to execute. My regular full-time job pays my regular bills and helps me fund my '70's silver art bar sideline business by helping me buy "business inventory" to resell in the future. The full time job that I currently work helps me add silver art bars (and certain coins) to my "business inventory" stash and to my "personal collection" stash. I like having a "business stash" for my sideline business just in case I do not find anything in a long while (i.e. several months).

    So far for this week, I have not searched for any silver art bars at the LCS's yet but I plan to do so as early as tomorrow depending on how much free time I have after working my full-time job. However, I did sell 3 oz's worth of '70's silver art bars and after paying ebay and paypal fees and USPS shipping (1st class), I made a total net profit of $34.71 from selling those 3 bars. I banked that $34.71 profit but I will use the remaining proceeds to buy more '70's silver art bars to either add to my personal collection stash or to add to my business stash for my side line business.

    I still will occasionally read and post on GIM.
     
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    I have heard of Agnut but I have not read this particular thread. I will read this thread when I get a chance since there are multiple pages. Once I read the whole thread, I might be able to pick up some additional ideas and thoughts and maybe I can apply some of those ideas and thought to my sideline business selling '70's silver art bars. Thank you for the link.
     
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    Update (4-27-2017):

    Today, I called 6 LCS's and went to another LCS to see if they had any '70's silver art bars but I struck out on all of those LCS. They did not have any old silver art bars. I plan to try again this weekend.

    On days such as today, there will be days where I will come up empty-handed on any '70's silver art bars. I am not complaining because I am patient enough to wait for the next opportunity to get more old silver art bars.

    Overall, everything is quiet for me today in terms of buying and selling '70's silver art bars.
     
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    Update (5-11-2017):

    So far this week, I did not buy any '70's silver art bars but the weekend is coming up so I could get lucky buying this weekend. I will see on this. The called 6 LCS's today but none of them did not have any '70's silver art bars.

    As for selling, things have been slow for my ebay sideline business selling '70's silver art bars. I only sold one 1-oz '70's silver art bar for this week but I also want to note here that I took a break from listing anything on ebay so I was just selling what I already had listed on ebay before taking a break from my ebay sideline business. During my break from listing bars on ebay, I sold an average of 1-2 bars a week. Today, I sold a 1974 United States Silver Corporation "David Michelangelo" 1-oz silver art bar for $50.00 on ebay to a customer. I paid $30.00 for it earlier this year. After ebay/paypal fees and USPS 1st class shipping cost, I made a net profit $10.58 on this bar. That is my only sale for this week but the week is not over yet.

    As for my next YT '70's silver art bar show episode, I am still brainstorming my next idea on that. I have an idea on my next episode but I have not started doing anything with that idea yet.
     
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    Update (5-20-2017):

    I did not purchase any '70's silver art bars this week. There were none to be had at the LCS's. Yesterday, I went to a coin show in the middle Tennessee area and there was a dealer table that had a book of '70's silver art bars in them. I asked about prices and he said the lowest prices on them were $25 and the highest was $40.00. Most of the ones for $25 for holiday-themed bars that can be had for usually $1-$3 over spot so I passed on them. There were also a bunch of Hamilton Mint bars in that book. I usually do not buy 1970's Hamilton Mint bars (with some exceptions) and the ones that he had I was not interested in buying. This dealer also had a 1973 Colonial Mint Roberto Clemente silver art bar in that book of bars but he wanted $35 for it. I turned down that offer. I ended up not buying any '70's silver art bars at this show.

    As for my next YT '70's silver art bar show episode, that is on hold for right now. I am concentrating more of my free time on my ebay business (mainly bookkeeping and price research and managing my listings) and buying more '70's silver art bars when they show up. I do have an idea for my 6th episode but I do not plan to reveal that yet until I produce and publish the actual YT video.
     
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    Episode 6 of the '70's silver art bar show:



    This was a last minute brainstorming idea for my 6th episode so I apologize for this is certainly not my best episode IMO but I like coming up with some interesting finds and relating those finds to certain landmarks such as the 1975 Loveman's bar that I bought today from a LCS.
     
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    Update (5-26-2017):

    Buying: As of this morning of 5-26-2017, I bought just one '70's silver art bar and that was a 1975 World Wide Mint Lovemans silver art bar that I bought from an LCS earlier this week (May 23, 2017). This weekend, I hope to find more '70's silver art bars but I will see. Slim pickings so far this week but finding one is better than nothing but I plan to go to at least one flea market this weekend to see what I can find and perhaps also take a short trip to a couple of coin shops to see what I can find there. Also, I plan to do my LCS serach for them. IMO opportunity are out there to find '70's silver art bars to add to my personal collection and to add to the "business stack" as well as to my "short-term flip stack" but I just have to work to seek out those opportunities. I am persistent.

    Selling: From my ebay sideline business, after fees and shipping costs, I made a total net profit of $80.76 for this week (week of Sunday, May 21 to Saturday, May 27) so far with this Memorial Day weekend coming up. I did not spend that net profit. Instead, I banked that net profit to eventually reinvest it back into my ebay sideline business in order to grow it. I will use the remaining paypal proceeds and as well as spend some of my regular paycheck from my full-time job to buy more silver art bar inventory to resell. Since the beginning of this year, Instead of using my net profits, I have been using part of my paycheck from my regular full-time job to help grow my ebay business at a faster rate mainly by adding to my "business stack" inventory and "short-term flip" stack inventory. I banked all of the net profits from every '70's silver art bar and other collectible silver that I sold so far this year and I eventually want to have enough accumulated net profit saved up at the bank to the point where my ebay side business will be self-sufficient and will not have to rely on funding it from my regular full-time job paycheck. That is still a long way away from this goal at this point but I eventually plan to reinvest those accumulated net profits into by ebay side business and I want to have enough accumulated net profits to do much bigger silver art bar deals than what I am doing now.

    Out of that $80.76 net profit so far this week, $26.76 of that came from selling two 1970's silver art bars (1977 World Wide Mint Birmingham Coca-Cola & 1978 World Wide Mint Anniston Federal Savings & Loan Association 25th Anniversary 1953 - 1978). I do not plan to list anything else on ebay for the rest of this month and I do not plan to list anything during the 1st week of June since I listed a lot of silver art bars and coins a week ago and I currently have a bunch of active ebay listings going on at the moment. However, I hope to sell more '70's silver art bars this weekend. So far, this has been my best week as a seller.

    '70's silver art bar show: I did my 6th episode of the '70's silver art bar on Tuesday (May 23, 2017). It was somewhat last minute so it was not my best show IMO. I did this 6th episode because I bought that Lovemans bar from a LCS that same day and the idea just popped in my head to do a short episode on Lovemans building in relation to the bar that I bought depicting the Lovemans building picture on it. I have at least one idea for my 7th episode but I am not going to work on this yet since I am putting most of my time and effort on my ebay sideline business and adding to my personal collection but I will still brainstorm more ideas.

    EDIT: Conclusion: This week, I have been more successful as a seller of '70's silver art bars than I was as a buyer. I like how things are going with my ebay side business and I am satisfied that my personal collection is growing slowly. This year could potentially be my best year since 2011 as a seller and I could make even more FRN profit by the end of this year than in 2011 despite spot silver is now currently about 65% lower than where it was at the top in early 2011.
     
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    Episode 7 of the '70's silver art bar show:

     
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    Wow, that's pretty cool Art. Lot's of good info. I've never even seen dies before.
    ...and it's really cool you have one of the bars.
     
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    Update (6-23-2017):

    Buying: This week, so far, is not a great week in terms of buying because I did not buy any '70's silver art bars from any of the local dealers in my area because they did not have any. This week is a tough week in terms of buying '70's silver art bars locally, however, I am very persistent and I have good relationships with all of the local dealers. I will try again this weekend to see if I can find any more '70's silver art bars.

    Selling: My ebay side business has been very slow in terms of selling '70's silver art bars on ebay. Even though I have several listings on ebay, I have not sold any '70's silver art bars this week so far. Even after cutting some of my prices, still no bites but I have gained some "watchers" on some of my BIN listings so that is a good sign IMO. Hopefully some of those "watchers" will become buyers. I will see what happens.

    '70's silver art bar show: After doing episode 7, of the '70's silver art bar show on June 14 (see post #992 of this thread), I felt great after doing this particular episode because of obtaining 4 original Colonial Mint dies on ebay. Episode 7 of the '70's silver art bar show is IMO the best episode that I have done since starting doing this on Youtube. I currently do not have any ideas and I do not have any plans in the near future for episode 8, however, I will brainstorm some ideas for the next episode. Doing the '70's silver art bar show on YT is not my top priority since I am spending most of my free time hunting for '70's silver art bars for my personal collection and as inventory (mainly duplicate bars) for my ebay side business.

    Conclusion: Locally speaking, it is a bad week so far finding '70's silver art bars at the local coin shops but that is just the way it goes. This weekend could possibly turn this week around but I am not going to hold my breath on that. Hopefully I sell at least one '70's silver art bar this weekend but I am not going to hold my breath on that either.
     
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    Silver Art Silver Art Bar collector Platinum Bling

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    I did not find any '70's silver art bars this week (so far) but this particular silver art bar was one that I bought nearly a week ago from a flea market when I was in Nashville, TN. A 1974 Mount Everest Mint Bejeweled Christmas Tree. I paid $40 for it but this particular version of this bar is very hard with stones in it and a low mintage of 534. Here is what it looks like:

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    Also, there is a stone missing (an emerald) on this bar but I guess that is to be expected from a bar this old. I bought this bar as is which include the bezel and sterling silver chain. The sterling silver chain weight as about 13.5 grams when I weighed just the chain. The bar is a decent deal on a relative basis based on condition IMO.
     
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    Silver Art Silver Art Bar collector Platinum Bling

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    I went to a coin shop yesterday (8-12-2017) that had a lot of '70's silver art bars. Needless to say, I bought several of them from this coin shop. Here are two of them that are the most interesting to me IMO.................

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    I paid $20.75 each (spot silver = $17.10/oz). Buying these two '70's silver art bars pictured above and several others yesterday ended my 2-week drought of not buying any. They can be hard to find and I had trouble in the last two weeks finding any old '70's silver art bars. Hopefully, I can find some more next weekend at a coin show in Dalton, GA. We will see.
     
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    Silver Art Silver Art Bar collector Platinum Bling

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    Update (8-20-2017):

    It has been a nearly two months since I did my last update (last update = post # 994 on 6-23-2017) but I do not plan to do as many .............................

    Buying: It has been slow buying '70's silver art bars but the last two weeks of this month has helped since I was able to buy some old bars to add to my collection and to flip on ebay. I did find a few of them when I attended a big coin show this past weekend (8-18-17 to 8-19-2017) in North Georgia. I expect it to be challenging the rest of this month in terms of finding '70's silver art bars.

    Selling: My ebay side business of selling '70's silver art bars has been slow in the last 4 weeks. I did sell a few '70's silver art bars but not many. I did sell a couple of 1-oz '70's silver art bars for $43 each. I sold a WWM Coca-Cola Nashville bar last month for $40. I sold an USSC (United States Silver Corporation) bar for $35. I plan to list a bunch of '70's silver art bars on September 1, 2017 to take advantage of the Labor Day weekend since I do tend to do well on holiday weekends. I also want to start getting ready for the holiday shopping season and I want to concentrate on adding more old bars to my business stack and my short-term flip stack strictly for just the holiday shopping season (Black Friday, Cyber Monday, Christmas shopping).

    '70's silver art bar show: To be honest with you, I do not plan to do another YT episode anytime soon. It is on the back burner for the time being since I have other obligations in regards to my ebay side business and my regular full-time job. If I do get a sudden idea for my next episode, then I will work on it.

    Conclusion: I have done more buying than selling '70's silver art bars during the last 4 weeks, however, that will change since I plan to list more old bars for sale on ebay for the Labor Day weekend. I am currently in the process of looking at and evaluating all of my most recent '70's silver art bar purchases to see which ones I will add to my personal collection and which ones I will sell on ebay.
     
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    Can imagine the pickings be slim. Thanks for update SA.
     
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    Silver Art Silver Art Bar collector Platinum Bling

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    Actually for the 1st 3 months of this year it has been great finding them at various places locally and at out-of-town places but lately it has been hard to find any old bars. Ebb and flow when it comes to finding vintage bars like that. The key for me is to be patient for the next deal and opportunity to come around. Even though I still have several '70's silver art bars up for sale on ebay, my sales have been slow mainly because of my pricing. I might have to adjust a few prices downward to get some bites on my BIN auctions. Next month I will put up more interesting old bars.
     
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    Episode 8 of the '70's silver art bar show:

     
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