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    From an email I get from the Texas 'We The People'

    Reference Material - For Information Only

    To All: Please read and understand completely!

    The following has been added to the class CD.

    At the age of 74, elder member of Congress John Quincy Adams received a visitor at his home in Massachusetts -- slavery abolitionist leader Lewis Tappan.

    Tappan's purpose was to persuade "Old Man Eloquent" to argue his defendant's case in Washington in what today is remembered as the Amistad Trial.

    In Steven Speilberg's film Amistad, the essential ingredients of the trial are brought forth, however, La Amistad also serves up a living template for jurisdictional issues which today directly impact the freedoms, liberties and human rights of both Americans AND Canadians.

    On Monday, February 22, 1841 Legal arguments commenced before the United States Supreme Court in Hartford Connecticut. John Quincy Adams began his argument on February 24th. The question to be decided by the nine Supreme Court Justices was one of legal jurisdiction. Their decision would mean slavery and death, or life and freedom for the 36 black African defendants.

    Specifically, were these Africans items of commerce or inventory as Spain and the Spanish slave traders maintained, or, had these Africans been illegally kidnapped from their homes along the Ivory Coast where slavery had been outlawed? Was their rebellion against enslavement, in which the Africans killed all but two of their Spanish captors lawful, or not?

    The trial became a contentious national issue, and as we shall see, La Amistad is not only an important event which sailed into American history, but ominously, an accurate and significant portrayal of America and her people today of Slave Ship America.

    We will explore and identify how we were "volunteered," and how we "volunteer" ourselves into servitude. We will also uncover the primary covert machinations employed by self-appointed scientific and banking elite's to maneuver and seduce freeborn human beings into slavery.

    Ironically, all Americans have been reduced to the same legal or commercial status the Spanish Crown sought to impose upon Amistad's African "inventory" just 164 years ago. Whereas we appear to have come a long way in our cultural and legal battles for human rights, we in fact have landed far from our intended shore. In today's fictional courts, all Americans are equally black.

    "Any law that originates from the Constitution is lawful. Any purported law that does not originate from it is a fictional law without validity. The true test of any American law is whether it was created according to lawful process or outside of lawful process." [ July 2003 Idaho Observer]

    Sir William Blackstone of Blackstone's Law Dictionary, with his many teachings on common law lays the lawful foundation of the Constitutional Republic and American justice. Both America and the Dominion of Canada were founded under common law jurisdiction and the unalienable rights and freedoms enjoyed by our forefathers.

    The right to life, liberty and property, for instance, are lawful claims not legal privileges; the right to justice not sympathy. Legal privileges and sympathy sway with the wind and times, whereas unalienable rights supersede convention and legality. Lawful Government must uphold and protect the unalienable rights of its born or naturalized citizens.

    However, there is a second status of "person" or "individual" with which many people are unfamiliar. This legal or fictional "person" can also be described as similar to the straw man, as in the "persona" born without a brain in the movie Wizard of Oz. This also describes the persona of a Corporation; a legal fiction without a brain, except that is, for "its" articles of incorporation that define "its" character and legal capacity.

    Due to the fact, a Corporate entity has no life of "its" own, and that "it" serves only itself, "it" must derive "its" life from sources external to "itself" which is why Corporate entities often become such liabilities to both the individual and community within which they function. Unlike a natural person with autonomous volition, an entity or legal fiction not only doesn't have a brain, but also lacks the ability to act morally.

    Indeed, Corporations often violate human rights codes outlawing slavery by classifying natural persons as resources whom they include in the sale of the Corporation or entity as "intellectual property" or "good will." A straw man, legal fiction or entity could be likened to the image of yourself when you look into a mirror. The image looks like or has the "color" of you as in the "color of law," and even moves like you, but, "it" is not the real flesh and blood you.

    However, within the legal scheme of things, you "volunteer" to become this image, fiction or entity through an involuntary or voluntary act of legal joinder every time you file a domestic income tax return or apply for a driver's license (invisible contracts). This license is issued not to you, but to the entity.

    "It is to the property of the citizen, not to the demand of the creditor of the State, that the original faith of society is pledged.
    The claim of the citizen is prior in time, paramount in title, and superior in quality."
    [Edmund Burke, Quoted in, The Coming Battle, Pub by, Paul & Loraine Walter]

    In his arguments before the United States Supreme Court on behalf of the Amistad Africans, John Quincy Adams states, "I derive consolation from the thought that this Court is a Court of JUSTICE."

    Adams quotes from the 2,000 year old, "Institutes of Justinian," meaning, "the constant and perpetual will to secure to every one HIS OWN right." Adams also alludes to this mirror image, fiction or "color of law" as, "that it said the thing which is not" too unfortunately it was so, as he said.

    Meaning, the claims of the Spanish Crown and slave traders, while having the color or appearance of law, were in effect neither lawful nor predicated upon law at all.

    It must be noted; John Q. Adams was acting as an advocate FOR the Africans, rather than as an interpreter of the UCC or Universal Commercial Code which deals specifically with such matters as commercial damage or loss claims as in the Amistad slave "inventories" etc.

    In the strange world of legal fiction it is doubtful Adams' lawful arguments could even be heard today in any American Court , including the Supreme Court, due to the fact the Supreme Court of the United States is today no longer capable of even "hearing" a natural or lawful person.

    In a future article, we will also explore how fraudulent science promoted by tax exempt Foundations has co-opted and undermined the American Constitution as the basis for American law and how this has extended into all areas of American life.

    For purposes of understanding one's legal or commercial status under the Admiralty system, it is necessary to examine the curious use of all CAPS in legal and domestic income tax forms. While seemingly a trite concern, this apparently small detail has deep significance.

    In 2003 the Idaho Observer conducted an inquiry into the meaning, or basis of capitalizing a natural person's name in official Government and legal documents. A proper answer was never found.

    However, Canadian Rights researcher Russell Porisky has conducted extensive studies into common law versus Admiralty law, and its attendant natural persons versus legal fictions. Porisky provides us with the answer.

    In book one of his five part study series on, Canadian Rights and Freedoms, Mr. Porisky who describes himself as a ";natural person," brings forth definitions from two credible sources:
    Gage Canadian Dictionary 1983 Sec. 4defines Capitalize adj. "To take advantage of" "To use to ones own advantage."

    Blacks Law Dictionary â€" Revised 4th Edition 1968, provides a more comprehensive definition as follows :
    Capitis Diminutio (meaning the diminishing of status through the use of capitalization) "In Roman law. A diminishing or abridgment of personality; a loss or curtailment of a man's status or aggregate of legal attributes and qualifications.

    Capitis Diminutio Minima (meaning a minimum loss of status through the use of capitalization, e.g. John Doe) - The lowest or least comprehensive degree of loss of status. This occurred where a man's family relations alone were changed. It happened upon the arrogation [pride] of a person who had been his own master, (sui juris,) [of his own right, not under any legal disability] or upon the emancipation of one who had been under the patria potestas. [Parental authority] It left the rights of liberty and citizenship unaltered. See Inst. 1, 16, pr.; 1, 2, 3; Dig. 4, 5, 11; Mackeld. Rom.Law, 144.

    Capitis Diminutio Media (meaning a medium loss of status through the use of capitalization, e.g. John DOE) A lessor or medium loss of status. This occurred where a man loses his rights of citizenship , but without losing his liberty. It carried away also the family rights.

    Capitis Diminutio Maxima (meaning a maximum loss of status through the use of capitalization, e.g. JOHN DOE or DOE JOHN) The highest or most comprehensive loss of status. This occurred when a man's condition was changed from one of freedom to one of bondage, when he became a slave. It swept away with it all rights of citizenship and all family rights.

    Diminutio . Lat. In civil law. Diminution; a taking away; loss or depravation.

    Capite . - Lat. By the head.

    As Black's Law Dictionary explains, the full capitalization of the letters of one's natural name, results in a diminishing or complete loss of legal or citizenship status , wherein one actually becomes a slave or an item of inventory. The method, by which the State causes a natural person to "volunteer" himself into slavery, is through forming legal joinder, implied or stated, with the entity or legal fiction (name all CAPS). Of course, most natural persons wouldn't willingly form such an unlawful but legally reductionist joinder, so trickery and obfuscation are used. The initial joinder is formed when a legal Birth Certificate is issued by the State, name in all CAPS. In fact, both the Certificate of Birth AND Social Security number, are for "inventory" control purposes, similar to the Amistad Schooner's manifest or those numbers or records used by legal entities or Corporation's to track, account for, use and dispose of inventory. It is under the Admiralty jurisdiction Terri Schiavo's fate was determined, and under this alien fictional jurisdiction many of today's legal or other fictional entities such as "gay marriages" are fabricated.

    Commensurate with color of law, they appear to "be," but they are not. Indeed, under common law and the American Constitution, "gay marriage" is unlawful and an oxymoron (contradiction). This, no legal maneuver can change.

    Whereas one may have legal recourse in a Corporate or Admiralty Court, no lawful or moral remedy will be found. Administrative directives of the legal tribunal or Admiralty jurisdiction, while having the color or appearance of law, may be legal but are in fact unlawful due to the nature or status of the Court's origin, which is predicated upon fiction. Admiralty Courts are in effect vastly inferior to the intentions and authority of those who founded the American Constitutional Republic. When searching America today, one would be hard pressed to locate an authentic Constitutional or Common law Court. This unlawful condition prevails in both Canada and the United States . A serious breech of Constitutional fidelity surfaced recently, when it was discovered Judges in Oregon were not properly sworn to uphold the Oregon Constitution and therefore were acting without Constitutional authority. The Courts and Judges in question, therefore, represent an alien power or entity.

    It is worth noting the causes for the Colonist revolt against England (it wasn't the Boston tea party). On July 6 1775, a declaration by the representatives of the united colonies of North America, met in Congress at Philadelphia setting forth the Causes and necessity of their taking up arms.

    "They (England) have undertaken to give and grant our money without our consent (seizing from the colonies the right to issue their own colonial script which destroyed the colonial economy). Though we have ever exercised an exclusive right to dispose of our own property; statutes have been passed for extending the jurisdiction of courts of admiralty and vice-admiralty beyond their ancient limits; for depriving us of the accustomed and inestimable privilege of trial by jury, in cases affecting both life and property; for suspending the legislature of one of the colonies; for interdicting all commerce to the capital of another; and for altering fundamentally the form of government established by charter"

    Through obfuscation and trickery America has been attacked and occupied by Corporate or pirate ships of war, which are the privately owned Federal Reserve and the IRS. Under Admiralty jurisdiction, commercial pirates have kidnapped and commandeered the American people into servitude. In fact, American's today enjoy a legal status no different from that of the Amistad Africans had they been found by the United States Supreme Court to be slaves or items of cargo owned by Spain and/or Spain 's representatives. Under terms used to facilitate slavery i.e., cargo, inventory etc., both Americans and Canadians now fall under these definitions i.e., as articles of commerce under Admiralty law and the UCC (Universal Commercial Code). America and Canada have been surreptitiously hijacked by pirates under "color of law." It should be emphasized; piracy and kidnapping are crimes under most lawful jurisdictions. In law, today's Admiralty courts are accessories to piracy.

    In all human endeavors, it is the responsibility of each person to guard first his own dignity and freedom, then the dignity and freedom of his family, community and fellow man. Those who do not uplift and guard the freedom and dignity of their fellow human beings little deserve it for themselves. John Quincy Adams was successful in securing the freedom of his African defendants. Would it be he were here with us today and that all Americans could be the black Africans he so eloquently represented. His words are an inspiration for all time.

    "Not slaves and therefore cannot be considered merchandise, but are free individuals with certain ethical and moral rights, including the right to engage in insurrection against those who would deny them their freedom " When there appears no hope at all, one must invoke one's ancestors " who we are, is who we were and who we must become."

    [Anthony Hopkins as J.Q. Adams in the movie Amistad]

    La Amistad & Slave Ship AMERICA
    © 2005 Kevin E. Abrams All Rights Reserved
    http://www.slaveshipamerica.com/
     
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    "By the blessing of God, I will argue the case before the Supreme Court - I implore the mercy of God to control my temper, to enlighten my soul, and to give me utterance, that I may prove myself in every respect equal to the task." [John Quincy Adams]

    The Canadian site Natural-Person comes under attack frequently and has been off-line a number of times. Must be effective...?

    Minnesota common law site has a bunch of material pertaining to redemption of the strawman:
    http://www.commonlawvenue.net/main/Docs.htm

    Here is a similar site from another Canadian - Bob Menard
    The links are to his forum with two similar declarations from someone wriggling in attempt to extract himself from the system.

    http://thinkfreebefree.proboards105.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1189549255

    http://thinkfreebefree.proboards105.com/index.cgi?board=worldbank&action=display&thread=1189802250

    Homepage for the forum: http://thinkfreebefree.proboards105.com/index.cgi note: this is the old site...

    Carver

    New site: www.thinkfreeforums.org
     
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    more Sovereignty...

    Family Guardian site has information on this topic. Here
    are their sovereignty documents (1,000 + pages):

    http://famguardian.org/

    LB Bork says the process started with the passage of
    the 13th and 14th amendments and calls this "The Red
    Amendment" in his book by that title.

    Don't have his website handy, but it is something like
    pac-in-law.org - just do a search.
     
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    [video=google;6507136891691870450]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6507136891691870450#[/video]

    G Edward Griffin - Creature From Jekyll Island A Second Look at the Federal Reserve
     
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    These were in the GIM1 thread & I favorited them. I think credit goes to GH for the original posts.







    Schaeffer Cox, in eleven parts:

     
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    TALK ABUT TRYING TO GET A DRINK FROM A FIREHOSE!!!! it will take a month to go through all this
     
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    THE TWO OF US!

    Citizen OF the United States or US Citizen? National or Citizen?

    TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401

    § 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

    The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

    (a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1408.html

    Hmmm .... very interesting terminology ....

    § 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth .... "The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth"


    THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

    When a child is born, the hospital sends the original, not a copy, of the record of live birth to the State Bureau of Vital Statistics, sometimes called the Department of Health and Rehabilitative Services (HRS). Each STATE is required to supply the UNITED STATES with birth, death, and health statistics. The STATE agency that receives the original record of live birth keeps it and then issues a Birth Certificate in the corrupted, ALL-CAPS version of the baby's true name, i.e. JANE DOE SMITH, not Jane Doe Smith.

    The Birth Certificate issued by the State is then registered with the U.S. Department of Commerce - - the Executive Office - specifically through their own sub-agency, the U.S. Census Bureau, which is responsible to register vital statistics from all the states. The word registered [ see note 1 below ], as it is used with commercial or legal based equity law, does not mean that the ALL - CAPS name was "merely" noted in a book for reference purposes. When a birth certificate is registered with the U.S. Department of Commerce, it means that the ALL-CAPS legal person named thereon has become a surety, or guarantor, a condition and obligation that is automatically and unwittingly assumed unless you rebut the presumption by effectively noticing them: "It ain't me."

    "registered" Security - bond -- Merriam Webster Dictionary of Law 1996.

    SEE Memorandum of Law on the Name by Gordon Warren Epperly

    "Guarantor" A person who pledges collateral for the contract of another, but separately, as part of an independent contract with the obligee of the original contract --- Duhaime's Law Dictionary.

    It is not difficult to see that a state - created birth certificate with an ALL-CAPS name is a document, evidencing debt the moment it is issued. Once a state has registered a birth document with U.S. Department of Commerce, the Department notifies the Treasury Department, which takes out a loan from the Federal Reserve. The Treasury uses the loan to purchase a bond (the Fed holds a "purchase money security interest" in the bond) from the Department of Commerce, which invests the sale proceeds in the stock or bond market.

    So the child just became the slave ..... can you see how this has happened? Until you take control, in other words "rebut", you will remain the slave. Slaves do not have freedoms.......... and that is what we all (or almost all) have been since the day we were born, and our innocent parents , and their parents, and their parents..... before us. Don't you think it is time that we woke up to the truth?

    Note 1:

    Click Here: http://dictionary.law.com/ type the word register in the LOOK UP. When the definition screen pops up, put registered in the second box.

    First Box Results:

    register
    n. in corporations, the record of shareholders, and issuance and transfer of shares on the records of the corporation. See also: corporation

    Second Box Results:

    Select a word:

    bond
    n. 1) written evidence of debt issued by a company with the ...
    burden of proof
    n. the requirement that the plaintiff (the party bringing a ...
    certificate of title
    n. generally, the title document for a motor vehicle issued ...
    copyright
    1) n. the exclusive right of the author or creator of a literary ...
    d.b.a.
    n. short for "doing business as," when a person or entity uses ...
    family purpose doctrine
    n. a rule of law that the registered owner of an automobile ...
    juror
    n. any person who actually serves on a jury. Lists of potential ...
    no fault insurance
    n: a type of automobile insurance required of car owners by ...
    petition
    1) n. a formal written request to a court for an order of the ...
    shareholder
    n. the owner of one or more shares of stock in a corporation, ...
    stock certificate
    n. printed document which states the name, incorporation state, ...
    title
    n. 1) ownership of real property or personal property, which ...
    trademark
    n. a distinctive design, picture, emblem, logo or wording (or ...

    REF:

    See Structure of the Birth Certificate

    See Memorandum of Law on the Name by Gordon Warren Epperly

    See MEMORANDUM OF LAW ON NAME by John Phillip Ellis Sr.

    See IDENTITY THEFT by Clyde Edward Powell

    See YOU, Inc. - The Basis of the Monetary Con Game

    See Is a birth certificate in itself an instrument, a promissory note or other negotiable instrument of commercial value? by Barton Albert Buhtz

    See IS THE UCC FILING YOUR REMEDY?

    See U.S. Legal History


    Below is a FOIA release that appears to contradict and disspell that DOC does not employ Birth Certificates, nor do they issue, maintain or make use of said documents ..... but the FOIA is seemingly contradictory when perusing the web page presented below, "Bureau Of The Census Federal Grants" (REF: about this page). With three terms and definitions analogous to the word and meaning of "UNITED STATES" (Hooven & Allison Co. v. Evatt, U.S.Ohio, 324 U.S. 652, 65 S.Ct. 870, 880, 89 L.Ed. 1252.) one must question the legal status of the FOIA issuer and that of the Bureau Of The Census Federal Grants. Possibly one constitutional statement and one Federal corporate statement?

    FOIA: BIRTH CERTIFICATES

    No agency within the Department of Commerce, including the U.S. Census Bureau, issues, maintains, or makes use of birth certificates. The state Health Department or the Department of Vital Statistics of the state in which the applicant was born, died, or was adopted should be able to provide a certificate.

    http://www.census.gov/po/www/foia/birthcert1.htm

    Bureau Of The Census Federal Grants

    About this page:
    This page features the following types of grant programs:

    Bureau Of The Census Grants
    Bureau Of The Census Government Grants
    Bureau Of The Census Federal Grants

    Conducts decennial censuses of population and housing; a mid-decade census of population to be taken initially in 1985 and every 10 years thereafter; quinquennial censuses of agriculture, State and local governments, manufacturers, mineral industries, distributive trades, construction industries, and transportation; current surveys which provide information on many of the subjects covered in the censuses at weekly, monthly, quarterly, annual, or other intervals; compilation of current statistics on U.S. foreign trade, including data on imports, exports, and shipping; conducts special censuses at the request and expense of State and local government units; publishes estimates and projections of the population and housing characteristics; issues current reports on manufacturing, retail and wholesale trade, selected services, construction, imports and exports, State and local government finances and employment, and other subjects; and makes searches of decennial census records and furnishes certificates to individuals for use as evidence of age, relationship, or place of birth.

    http://www.federalgrantswire.com/bur...al_grants.html

    How debt is assumed by legal fictions

    We now refer back to the matter of assumption, as already discussed, with its relationship to arbitrarily created juristic persons, e.g. “STATE OF CALIFORNIA” or “JOHN P JONES.” Since an assumption, by definition, implies debt, what debt does a legal fiction assume? Now that we have explored the legal — executive — basis of the current Federal and State governments, it's time to put all this together.

    The government use of all caps in place of proper names is absolutely no mistake. It signifies an internal (“legal”) rule and authority. Its foundation is pure artifice and the results have compounded into more deceit in the form of created, promulgated, instituted, administered, and enforced rules, codes, statutes, and policy — i.e. “the laws that appear to be but are not, never were, and never can be.”

    Qui sentit commodum, sentire debet et onus. He who enjoys the benefit, ought also to bear the burden. He who enjoys the advantage of a right takes the accompanying disadvantage — a privilege is subject to its condition or conditions. -- Bouvier's Maxims of Law (1856).

    The Birth Certificate

    Since the early 1960's, State governments — themselves specially created, juristic, corporate persons signified by all caps — have issued Birth Certificates to "persons" with legal fiction all-caps names. This is not a lawful record of your physical birth, but rather the birth of the juristic, all-caps name. It may appear to be your true name, but since no proper name is ever written in all caps (either lawfully or grammatically) it does not identify who you are. The Birth Certificate is the government’s self-created document of title for its new “property,” i.e. the deed to the juristic-name artificial person whose all-caps name “mirrors” your true name. The Birth Certificate brings the new all-caps name into colorable admiralty/maritime law, the same way a ship (and ship of state) is berthed.

    One important area to address, before going any further, is the governmental use of older data storage from the late 1950's until the early 1980's. As a "left over" from various teletype-oriented systems, many government data storage methods used all caps for proper names. The IRS was supposedly still complaining about some of their antiquated storage systems as recent as the early 1980's. At first, this may have been a necessity of the technology at the time, not a deliberate act. Perhaps, when this technology was first being used and implemented into the mainstream of communications, some legal experts saw it as a perfect tool for their perfidious intentions. What better excuse could there be?

    However, since local, State, and Federal offices primarily used typewriters during that same time period, and Birth Certificates and other important documents, such as driver's licenses, were produced with typewriters, it's very doubtful that this poses much of an excuse to explain all-caps usage for proper names. The only reasonable usage of the older databank all-caps storage systems would have been for addressing envelopes or certain forms in bulk, including payment checks, which the governments did frequently.

    Automated computer systems, with daisy-wheel and pin printers used prevalently in the early 1980's, emulated the IBM electric typewriter Courier or Helvetica fonts in both upper and lower case letters. Shortly thereafter, the introduction of laser and ink-jet printers with multiple fonts became the standard. For the past fifteen years, there is no excuse that the government computers will not accommodate the use of lower case letters unless the older data is still stored in its original form, i.e. all caps, and has not been translated due to the costs of re-entry. But this does not excuse the entry of new data, only "legacy" data. In fact, on many government forms today, proper names are in all caps while other areas of the same computer produced document are in both upper and lower case. One can only conclude that now, more than ever, the use of all caps in substitution the writing a proper name is no mistake.

    When a child is born, the hospital sends the original, not a copy, of the record of live birth to the "State Bureau of Vital Statistics," sometimes called the "Department of Health and Rehabilitative Services" (HRS). Each STATE is required to supply the UNITED STATES with birth, death, and health statistics. The STATE agency that receives the original record of live birth keeps it and then issues a Birth Certificate in the corrupted, all-caps version of the baby’s true name, i.e. JAMES WILBER SMITH.

    cer-tif-i-cate, noun. Middle English certificat, from Middle French, from Medieval Latinceruficatum. from Late Latin, neuter of certificatus, past participle of certificare, to certify, 15th century. 3: a document evidencing ownership or debt.-- Merriam Webster Dictionary (1998).


    The Birth Certificate issued by the State is then registered with the U.S. Department of Commerce -- the Executive Office -- specifically through their own sub-agency, the U.S. Census Bureau, which is responsible to register vital statistics from all the States. The word "registered," as it is used within commercial or legal based equity law, does not mean that the all-caps name was merely noted in a book for reference purposes. When a Birth Certificate is registered with the U.S. Department of Commerce, it means that the all-caps legal person named thereon has become a surety or guarantor, a condition and obligation that is automatically and unwittingly assumed unless you rebut the presumption by effectively noticing them: “It ain’t me.”

    registered. Security, bond. -- Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law (1996).

    Security. I a: Something (as a mortgage or collateral) that is provided to make certain the fulfillment of anobligation. Example: used his property as security for a loan. lb: "surety." 2: Evidence of indebtedness, ownership, or the right to ownership. -- Ibid.

    Bond. I a: A usually formal written agreement by which a person undertakes to perform a certain act (as fulfill the obligations of a contract) . . with the condition that failure to perform or abstain will obligate the person . . to pay a sum of money or will result in the forfeiture of money put up by the person or surety. lb: One who acts as a surety. 2: An interest-bearing document giving evidence of a debt issued by a government body or corporation that is sometimes secured by a lien on property and is often designed to take care of a particular financial need. ‑‑ Ibid.

    Surety. The person who has pledged him or herself to pay back money or perform a certain action if the principal to a contract fails, as collateral, and as part of the original contract. -- Duhaime'sLaw Dictionary.

    1: a formal engagement (as a pledge) given for the fulfillment of an undertaking.

    2: one who promises to answer for the debt or default of another.

    Under the Uniform Commercial Code, however, a surety includes a guarantor, and the two terms are generally interchangeable.

    Merriam Webster's "Dictionary of Law" (1996).

    Guarantor. A person who pledges collateral for the contract of another, but separately, as part of an independently contract with the obligee of the original contract.

    Duhaime's Law Dictionary.

    It is not difficult to see that a state-created Birth Certificate, with an all-caps, name is a document evidencing debt the moment it is issued. Once a state has registered a birth document with the U.S. Department of Commerce, the Department notifies the Treasury Department, which takes out a loan from the Federal Reserve. The Treasury uses the loan to purchase a bond (the Fed holds a “purchase money security interest” in the bond) from the Department of Commerce, which invests the sale proceeds in the stock or bond market. The Treasury Department then issues Treasury securities in the form of Treasury Bonds, Notes, and Bills using the bonds as surety for the new “securities.” This cycle is based on the future tax revenues of the legal person whose name appears on the Birth Certificate. This also means that the bankrupt, corporate U.S. can guarantee to the purchasers of their securities the lifetime labor and tax revenues of every “citizen of the United States”/American with a Birth Certificate as collateral for payment. This device is initiated simply by converting the lawful, true name of the child into a legal, juristic name of a person.

    Dubuque rei potissinia pars prineipium est — The principal part of everything is in the beginning. (“Well begun is half done.”)

    Legally, you are considered to be a slave or indentured servant to the various Federal, State and local governments via your STATE-issued and STATE-created Birth Certificate in the name of your all-caps person. Birth Certificates are issued so that the issuer can claim “exclusive” title to the legal person created thereby. This is further compounded when one voluntarily obtains a Driver’s License or a Social Security Account Number. The state even owns your personal and private life through your STATE-issued marriage license/certificate issued in the all-caps names. You have no rights in birth, marriage, or even death. The state holds title to all legal persons the state creates via Birth Certificates until the rightful owner, i.e. you, reclaims/redeems it by becoming the holder in due course of the instrument.

    The main problem is that the mother and father, and then the eighteen-year-old man or woman, voluntarily agreed to this contrived system of plunder and slavery by remaining silent — a legal default, latches, and failing to claim one’s own Rights. The maxim of law becomes crucially operative: “He who fails to assert his rights has none.”

    The legal rules and codes enforce themselves. There is no court hearing to determine if those rules are correct. Government rules are self-regulating and self‑supporting. Once set into motion, such "laws" automatically come into effect provided the legal process has been followed.

    http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/name_memorandum.htm note: link is dead...probably google it?
     
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    A quick history of the US: thanks to maximumrebel1 for posting

    If you can’t think of reasons that state secession is a better solution for liberty than working within "the system," consider the record of the Federal Government of the United States.

    Sure, you can ultimately lay the blame on all of us, since we are the ones who allow the atrocities of Washington to continue. But for now, let’s look at Washington’s record of achievement over the last 150 years.

    War of Northern Aggression – 1860s: The North wages war on a confederation of seceding states who left lawfully. Over 600,000 men died on both sides.

    Reconstruction: 1860s–1870s. The North plunders the South.

    Fractional reserve banking: counterfeiting by another name. Born in the 1800s, perfected by the Federal Reserve and central banking system of the USA.

    Spanish-American War – 1898: "Remember the Maine?" A complete lie told by newspaperman WR Hearst, bought by the public and Washington to go to war.

    Federal Reserve: established in 1913. For 96 years, it has mismanaged the economy and counterfeited currency.

    IRS and the Income Tax (16th Amendment): 1913. What starts out as a small tax becomes a leviathan. What starts out as a small division of the Treasury becomes the most feared weapon of Washington.

    World War 1: 1914–1918. 117,000 dead Americans, 205,000 wounded. The US had no business in a European family war but President Wilson had other ideas.

    Depression I: 1929–1940s. The Federal Reserve caused it.

    New Deal: 1933–1936. FDR’s massive government jobs program, plundering the wealth of the USA. Fascism by another name.

    World War II: 1941–1945. Another European war, we had no dog in this fight. FDR baited the Japs into attacking Pearl Harbor, giving him political cover.

    Cold War: The US and the USSR escalate preparations for war to new heights, spending hundreds of billions of dollars on weapons.

    Korean War: 1950–1953. 36,000 Americans dead, 96,000 wounded.

    Viet Nam: 1950–1975. 58,000 dead Americans, 303,000 wounded.

    Creation of three letter agencies: HEW, HHS, CIA, FDA, FCC, DOA, DOD, EPA, and the list goes on...

    New Cabinet bureaucracies: Energy, Education, Homeland Security, etc.

    Grenada invasion: 1983. 19 Americans dead, 116 wounded.

    Panamanian invasion 1989: 23 Americans dead, maybe 3,000 civilians killed.

    Bosnian War: 1992–1995: US sends troops under UN flag, millions of civilians made refugees.

    Gulf War: 1999. President George HW Bush commits a massive force to Kuwait. 379 Americans die, 776 wounded in a 100-hour war.

    Iraq: 2003–present. About 5,000 Americans dead, over 35,000 wounded (that they’ll admit to). That doesn’t count casualties of our mercenaries...I mean contractors.

    Afghanistan/Pakistan: 2001–present. About 1,000 Americans dead, over 4,500 wounded. That doesn’t count casualties of our mercenaries...I mean contractors.

    TSA: 2001–present. Domestic airline travel done "the government way."

    Let’s not forget...

    * Counterfeiting, bailouts, nationalization and massive inflation: Just another way that Washington says "you belong to me."
    * Regulation of every facet of human life: Try to think of a second of your life that is not regulated in some way by Washington. Quick answer: that second does not exist.
    * Two-party political system: two sides of the same coin, both Washington cheerleaders and sycophants. Both want to spend unconstitutional money.
    * Out of control military, bases in 130 nations.

    Here is the point to this litany of tyranny. The government of the United States of America has screwed up the entire planet through their actions over the last 150 years. The events of currency collapse and inflation in our not-too-distant future will reverberate throughout every nation on earth.

    States of the United States that choose to secede will certainly be affected by the implosion of the Washington government. But, could any new nation ever match the "Hall of Shame" listed above?

    New American nations, formed from the seceding United States, would be little pinpoints of light and liberty. If their only guiding principle was to not make the same mistakes that the US government made over the last 150 years, they would be destined for success.

    How could they fail?

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/longcore/longcore11.1.html
     
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    Link is dead however you can google the title: "The Alpha Strategy" - John Pugsley a .pdf - download to your machine.

    http://www.biorationalinstitute.com/zcontent/alpha_strategy.pdf

    Good read on economy.
    Answers the question: What is Wealth?
    Exposes the Carnival Economy of the US.
     
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    Common Law

    All files located at: http://coreyeib.com/traffic/SH826801.html

    Discussion on how I tested my theory of appearing before the court without entering a plea and preventing the court from entering a plea on the behalf of the defendant.
    Appearance date was Sep. 8 2011, failure to appear would result in a mandatory warrant. No warrant, no FTA.
    After one year I will file a motion similar to a Serna motion to dismiss the case, however this isn't necessary as the case is only pending and has no effect on me.

    Prior to receiving this citation, I had rescinded my signature on form DL-44 with the DMV. This is important because when they have your signature on this form, you give up your state rights and become subject to the jurisdiction of the United States (Look up CA Commercial Code Section 9307(h) to find out where the United States is)

    || NOTE ||: Form DL-44 (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/dl/dl44.htm) is the Driver License Application. My signature on that form was rescinded PRIOR to the contact with the OC Sheriff Deputies described in this video.


    Appear without entering a plea on a citation

     
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    This is a MUST see video. It's made by some Brits, but our laws are very similar to theirs.

    John Harris gives us his perspective on what's going on. He describes how we are
    economic slaves to a debt dependant system, notably achieved through the deception
    of the birth certificate and the creation of a legal fiction known as your 'PERSON'.
    It is this PERSON that the government then wields it's control upon. Although John
    points out that this arrangement only works when we consent.

    Unfortunately inaction is taken as consent, hence we have unwittingly surrendered our
    inalienable rights through identifying with the PERSON. Remember you are a human
    being with God given rights, all you have to do is claim them.

    Filmed at the The British Constitution Group Lawful Rebellion Conference in
    Stoke-on-Trent on the 24th January 2009.

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4BBC3B34504B2D48
     
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    Some information on corporations...
    - AUSTRALIA is a corporation
    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/uk_australia_canada_government/news.php?q=1208891171

    - Is the U.S. a corporation?
    http://www.reddit.com/r/CommonLaw/comments/79ra9/is_the_us_a_corporation/

    1) Proof the US is a corp:
    https://smallbusiness.dnb.com/ePlatform/servlet/IballValidationCmd?referrer=gwslookup&storeId=10001&catalogId=70001&busName=obama&state=DC&country=US&cm_mmc=dnb*home*gws*lookup

    2) YOUR ARE A CORPORATION UNTIL YOU DENY IT VIA AFFIDAVIT!

    If you are uncertain where to find examples of Affidavits such as a "Notice of
    Understanding and Intent" and a "Claim of Right", then here are a bunch of examples.

    3) Your birth certificate was used as a tool to enslave you. Also you marriage certificate,
    legally considered a corporate merger.

    4) Your birth certificate is the tool that turned you into a Strawman.

    The legal-fiction or legal-entity known as the 'person' is the Strawman, also known as the Trade Name or Artificial Person. [1] Three points...
    - By definition, a 'person' is a legal-fiction or legal-entity created on paper for acting under a constructed jurisdiction - a closed set of rules and regulations.
    - A human being is NOT a 'person', but a human being HAS a 'person', in the same way he or she HAS an ID.
    - It is this 'person', also known by other means; the 'Citizen', 'Driver', 'Resident' etc. that acts within the laws of the incorporated society.

    For more information on this, check out the seminars by Robert Arthur Menard; "Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception" and "The Magnificent Deception", available >here<.

    The "Birth Certificate" - a type of 'negotiable instrument'
    "Denial of Corporate Existence" - denying your 'person' and submission to another jurisdiction
    "Notes on Affidavit of Denial of Corporate Existence"


    5) The Two United States and the Law.

    - "The Two United States and the Law" by Howard Freeman
    - "The UCC Connection: Free Yourself from Legal Tyranny" by Howard Freeman

    The US is a corporation
    http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm

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    Wizards of Money audio files 22 all are working
    http://www.takeoverworld.info/wizardsom.html
    You can get transcripts of the Wizard series here:
    http://www.altruists.org/downloads/by_subject/money/

    All in PDF format. Lots of other material on that site.
    Check out the economics section too.
    Harold Thomas - AKA "ICE" (Investigating Curious Evidence)


    The 1976 publication of FA Hayek's Choice in Currency - a Way to Stop Inflation

    This is only a small pamphlet which printed on both sides requires 12 pages.
    It can be center stapled with a saddle stapler.

    Hayek's Road to Serfdom is also available at this site in a full version and a shortened version.
    Other economic writers along with a scattering of audio recordings and a couple of video talks are available also on this site.
     
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    things to Google:

    Cooperative Capitalism. A Blueprint for Global Peace and Prosperity
    by Dr. J.W. Smith, (Quality Books, Inc., June 2003)

    Download in full: Word Document (1.6MB) http://www.ccus.info/books/cc/CooperativeCapitalism.doc
    Zipped (0.8MB) http://www.ccus.info/books/cc/CooperativeCapitalism.zip
    Other JW Smith books: http://www.ied.info/books.html

    Money; A Mirror Image Of The Economy
    by J.W. Smith (2nd Edition, May 2007)

    Download in full: PDF Format http://www.ied.info/books/money/Money-A-Mirror-Image-Of-The-Economy.pdf

    Economic Democracy; The Political Struggle for the 21st Century
    by Dr. J.W. Smith, (4th Edition, September 2005)

    Or download in full: Word Document (3.8MB) http://www.ied.info/books/ed/EconomicDemocracy.doc
    or Zipped (1.5MB) http://www.ied.info/books/ed/EconomicDemocracy.zip
    Be sure to visit this site to learn about other JW Smith books: http://www.ied.info/books.html

    More on-line and free books from various authors:
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/library.html

    Books and Articles by Thomas H. Greco, Jr.
    The Need for Monetary Reform and the Status of the Movement
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/MonetaryMovementStatus.pdf

    Money: Understanding and Creating Alternatives to Legal Tender (e-book)
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/MoneyEbook.pdf

    Money: Understanding and Creating Alternatives to Legal Tender (Publisher Information)
    http://www.chelseagreen.com/2001/items/money

    New Money for Healthy Communities
    http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/NMfHC/

    Money and Debt: A Solution to the Global Crisis
    http://circ2.home.mindspring.com/money_and_debt.htm

    Regional Economic Development Through the Organization of Local Trade Exchanges
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/regional-economic-devel.html

    Correspondence on Commodity Money and Credit Money
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/correspondence.html


    E. C. Riegel
    The Monetary Philosophy of E. C. Riegel
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/RiegelPhilosophy.pps

    Flight From Inflation
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/flight.html

    Private Enterprise Money
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/private-enterprise.html

    A New Approach to Freedom
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/new-approach.html

    The Valun Mutual Money Plan
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/valun-mutual.html

    The Basic Law of Contracts
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/LawOfContracts.pdf

    Riegel website
    http://www.newapproachtofreedom.info/

    Monetary Freedom Declaration
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/MonetFreedomDeclaration.pdf

    The German School of Money and Banking
    The Classical Monetary System - According to the German School of Monetary Freedom
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/Johnsson.pdf

    Ulrich von Beckerath
    - English texts http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/ulrich.html
    - German texts http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/ulrich-german.html

    Walter Zander http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/zander.html
    The Four Law Drafts http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/fourLaws.pdf

    Heinrich Rittershausen
    - Biography http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/ritt-bio.html
    - English http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/dr-heinrich.html
    - German http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/ritt-german.html
    - The Evolution of Central Banking http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/riticb.html

    U.S. Congress - Wright Patman - Money Facts
    http://dewoody.net/money/

    Edward E. Popp
    The Great Cookie Jar http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/cookiePopp.pdf

    Money, Bona Fide or Non-Bona Fide http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/bonafidePopp.pdf


    Federal Reserve Documents
    Modern Money Mechanics http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/ModernMoneyMechanics.pdf
    Two Faces of Debt http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/two_faces_of_debt.pdf

    The Politics of Money
    Introduction to Free Money and Free Banking http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/introduction-to-free.html

    Breaking the English Tradition http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/BreakingEnglishTradition.pdf

    John Zube on monetary freedom http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/zube.html

    A Draft Manifesto of Monetary and Financial Rights and Liberties http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/DraftManifesto.pdf

    Monetary History
    Some Writings of Thomas Jefferson http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/tjefferson.pdf

    The Money Masters http://www.themoneymasters.com/

    The Currency Famine of 1893, John DeWitt Warner

    Money as Debt (video link) http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/local.html

    Money, Past, Present, and Future, Roy Davies http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/local.html


    Research and Reviews
    Comment of Creating New Money: A Monetary Reform for the Information Age by Joseph Huber and James Robertson http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/huber.html

    Review of The Lost Science of Money: The Mythology of Money - the Story of Power by Stephen Zarlenga http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/ZarlengaReview.pdf


    Reference List
    http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/bibliography.html
     
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    This looks better at the link at the end

    CREATING MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR TRUE OR FALSE? IT IS FALSE !!

    Nov. 3, 2008

    IT IS FALSE !!

    Article 1 section 10 of the united states constitution states: No State shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but GOLD and SILVER COIN a tender in payment of debts: (Emphsis added) Did you not just read that gold and silver coin (money) is the monetary exchange and that a monetary debt can only be paid in gold and silver coin (money) there is no exceptions, if there was an exception you would have read it. So if this is true, and it is! Would it not also be true that to make/create money out of thin air one would need to create gold and or silver coin out of thin air. Please get this straight no one is creating money out of thin air!! And for the ones teaching and spreading this false story please STOP! IT IS NOT TRUE SO STOP!!

    You/we have no money period, unless you/we have some silver or gold coins put away someplace. If you doubt this please read Article 1 section 10 of the united states constitution again. Federal reserve notes ARE NOT MONEY. We just read above what the constitution said money is for the Republic. I repeat Federal Reserve Notes ARE NOT MONEY. Federal reserve notes ARE NEGOTABLE INSTRUMENTS/ PROMISARY NOTES AND NOTHING MORE PERIOD. Again Federal Reserve Notes are not money. With a federal reserve note you are promising that some day you will pay, why because you have no money, silver or gold coin to pay your debts with at this time. What did you read the constitution said above "…make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts:" (again emphasis added) How much plainer can this be. FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES ARE NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS, CHECKS ARE NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS BONDS ARE NEGOTABLE INSTRUMENTS, TRAFFIC TICKETS, WARRANTS ETC. ARE NEGOTABLE INSTRUMENTS THEY ARE NOT MONEY. How much plalner can that be people.

    So if you have no money (silver or gold coin) can the united states constitution be in play? No it can not because you can not pay your debts. (If this is true can you still get the rights given by your creator and guaranteed by the constitution yes if you understand the system you are now under.) So if you have no money and can not pay your debts what can you do? You can only discharge your debts or pass your debt on to someone else and they will discharge them to some one else and so on and so on but without money the debt(s) can never be paid. What has replaced the constitution? COMMERCE which does not deal with money but deals only with NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS and you can never, never pay a debt with a promissory note which is a federal reserve note!! The coins in your pocket are debased until they are almost worthless. I will get to the coins more a little later. I will ask you something else at this time is gold and silver coin (money) valuable? You bet it is! Gold and Silver are going up in value. Federal Reserve Notes which are worthless to start with are going down in value. Do you not wish you had five or six hundred silver dollars or gold coins stashed away? You would be fairly wealthy especially if it was gold. Federal Reserve Notes are worthless. They are just a small piece of paper with some number printed on them such as 5, 10 etc, no value to anyone except by faith (belief) and to start a fire. The only reason they seem to be of value is because people believe they have value. It is a confidence scam. Just as any scam being done on the streets every day, only this is really big time.

    I will ask you another question which would you rather have a "one dollar federal reserve note or one silver dollar? I bet you will say the silver dollar. Why you are being told every day of your life that they are both a dollar. It is a lie people. The silver dollar is backed by the silver in it and the federal reserve notes are backed by the slaves using them. How is that you may ask? By your straw mans birth certificate which is also a negotiable instrument. Did you know that your birth certificate is printed out on special paper called bond paper. Your straw mans birth certificate is worth hundreds of millions and perhaps billions. Because you are using the negotiable instruments such as Federal Reserve Notes, Checks etc. the government and courts are assuming you understand commerce, and that you understand negotiable instruments. If you are operating in commerce should you not understand the system? DO YOU? You need to understand that the constitution and money (gold and or silver) is long gone and that you are in a new system known as commerce which does not operate with money (gold and or silver) but with negotiable instruments. Is the system fraud, treason, satanic, corrupt legal but unlawful ETC.? It sure is but you are involved in it every or almost everyday of your life.

    Now, type in HJR 192 in your search engine. HJR stands for House Joint Resolution 192 and that is where this scam began. At this time the people gave up there gold and silver (money) for Federal Reserve Promissory notes. But if you read HJR 192 and understand what it says the government also said that they would now pay your debts for you because you no longer can. That means if you understand the scam the government will pay for everything for you. When you were born and your straw man got his birth certificate you should have gotten a check book along with the birth certificate. I know you did not but you should have that is where the fraud starts. They had to do this so as not to be charged with treason at that time. Now do you understand why some of you may have had a judge tell you the constitution can not be argued in his court. The court is not a constitutional article 3 court how can it be you have no money. You are in an administrative court with an actor acting as a judge in commerce not the constitution. And your straw man is before the court but you are there with the straw man so you become the surety for the straw man. The actor judge is not talking to you he is talking to your straw man.

    Before closing I will talk some about the coins as I said I would, but before I do that I will just briefly touch on one other thing. People, people, people wake up and stop saying oh the government is or they might violate the constitution, yes this is true but wake up America is under a system that is called commerce and commerce is a different system than the constitution. Trying to mix the two systems is like trying to mix oil and water you can’t so if you do not understand the system you will lose every or almost every time. One system operates with gold and silver (money) and the other system does not. Those who refuse to learn this, this system will destroy you and you will never know why. You still do have rights guaranteed by the constitution but only if you learn the system you are in WHICH IS COMMERCE.

    Now for the coins you may have in your pocket. At one time a quarter had a just weight and measure of silver the same with the half dollar and with the dollar. And it was against the law to in anyway debase the coins by drilling a small hole in them for a chain etc. and when the coins got wore down any at all they were replaced with new coins, because of the just weight and measure law. That was also the reason for the ridges around the out side of the coin to check for worn coins. Then along came commerce and the government coin makers started debasing the coins until today there is no silver in any of the three coins just mentioned. There is an act on the books that was passed by congress in 1792 called the coinage or mint act of 1792 which has never been repealed so it is still active to day. I will now show you a part of that act below by copying and pasting so you can see how far this nation has fallen. If you want to see the whole act go to your search engine and type in "coinage act" without the quotation marks. (emphasis will be added below) You will see that there is only one penalty and only one penalty for the debasing of our yours and my coins.

    Chap. XV.—An Act establishing a Mint, and regulating the Coins of the United States.(a)

    SEC. 19. And be it further enacted, That if any of the gold or silver coins which shall be struck or coined at the said mint shall be debased or made worse as to the proportion of fine gold or fine silver therein contained, or shall be of less weight or value than the same ought to be pursuant to the directions of this act, through the default or with the connivance of any of the officers or persons who shall be employed at the said mint, for the purpose of profit or gain, or otherwise with a fraudulent intent, and if any of the said officers or persons shall embezzle any of the metals which shall at any time be committed to their charge for the purpose of being coined, or any of the coins which shall be struck or coined at the said mint, every such officer or person who shall commit any or either of the said offences, shall be deemed guilty of felony, and shall suffer death.

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/business/currency/news.php?q=1225750820
     
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    Do you own your Land?

    Reported by Tom Westbrook
    Date: 04-08-2010
    Subject: Property Rights

    Edited Excerpts from: "Do you own your Land?"

    WARN Vol. 1 Issue 1a July 4, 1997 p. 13 (order info)

    The foundation of this nation was real property ownership. That's why the settlers came here. To insure private ownership of land, the nation's founding fathers made it unlawful for government to own land except for the ten square miles of Washington D.C., and such as may be needed for erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings. (The Constitution)

    ...

    When an American fulfills the requirements to obtain a "Land Patent" the patent is assigned by and under the hand and seal of the President of the United States, in accord with an Act of Congress.

    Fictitious entities, like trusts, corporations, etc. cannot obtain land patents except by express act of Congress. An example of Congress granting land through patents to fictitious entities is the railroad grants made to compensate the railroad companies for building railroads across America.

    The Land Patent is the only form of perfect title to land available in the United States. Wilcox v. Jackson, 38 PET (U.S.) 498; 10 L.Ed. 264

    In America today people think they own their land, but unless they have the Land Patent on the land they

    http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/067232-2010-04-08-do-you-own-your-land.htm
     
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    Message from LB Bork:
    Quote:

    "Greetings: Many people are facing problems here in America.
    They fail to understand the problem is political as it is tied to law.
    The article in the link below will explain what is going on.

    Please share with others.http://www.pacinlaw.org/pdf/US_Citizen_Examined.pdf

    Best regards, LB Bork www.pacinlaw.org ~ www.pacgroups.us

    Multi multa, non omnia novit = Many men know many things, no one knows everything.

    The War Between the States created a tragic distortion of the American political
    landscape. Following that tumultuous conflict, a group of usurpers seized the reins
    of federal power, and through deception foisted a massive fraud upon the American
    people. By supplanting state sovereignty--the most sacred tenet of the American
    Union--these pirates tricked the people out of their rightful governments...

    State Nationals sounds the call to repopulate the American republics!

    The De jure Political Group: www.statenationals.net
     
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    Towards A Knowledge Economy by Claudia I. Carrillo F.

    Abstract
    This paper provides a preliminary formulation of a new currency based on knowledge. Through a literature review of alternative currencies, various properties and benefits are selected that we hope will enable such a currency to be created. Nowadays not only money but also knowledge is necessary to do business. For instance, knowledge about markets and consumers is highly valuable but difficult to achieve, and even more difficult to store, transport or trade. The basic premise of this proposal is a knowledge measurement pattern that is formulated as a new alternative social currency. Therefore, it is an additional means of contributing to the worldwide evolution of a knowledge society. It is intended as a currency to facilitate the conservation and storage of knowledge, and its organization and categorization, but mainly its exploitation and transference.

    http://www.uea.ac.uk/env/ijccr/pdfs/IJCCR vol 11 (2007) 4 Carrillo.pdf

    Exploring Gender Divisions In A Community Currency System: The Case Of The Barter Network In Argentina by Francisca Pereyra

    Abstract
    This article aims to explore the ways in which Community Currency Schemes (CCS), as markets, are permeated by other influential social orders, in this case that of gender. The paper therefore looks at the way in which gender structures may be reproduced or reflected in these kinds of markets and how they sometimes acquire certain features depending on the CCS in question. The paper is based on a particular case study, the Argentine experience with a CCS - known as the ‘Barter Network’ - and is structured around three main issues. The first analytical section deals with a characteristic of the Barter Network shared by many other CCS: the preponderance of female (or the scarcity of male) participants. Thus, the reasons for the gender composition of the Barter Network are examined. The second section explores the way in which, through its development, this CCS generated its own gendered structures. Hence, the dynamics of certain trade practices which imply differential returns for men and women are examined. Finally, the article considers the degree of empowerment that participation in this sphere may have implied for female participants.

    http://www.uea.ac.uk/env/ijccr/pdfs/IJCCR vol 11 (2007) 5 Pereyra.pdf

    The George Mercier book "INVISIBLE CONTRACTS" is located here in a zipped format: http://www.statusisfreedom.com/resources.htm

    This book is becoming difficult to locate, so I advise all readers to download and save.

    The Sam Davis audio files (I only have second hand information) pertain to redemption techniques. He is to appear on the Dr Sam Kennedy program "Take No Prisoners" next weekend. The Sam Davis files are at the bottom of the Status is Freedom resources page.

    Here are some Randall Kelton audio files - they're heavily into the travel issue: http://www.hobbleknot.com/Menu-Kelton.html
     
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    Eric Who RU telephone calls: http://www.myutsi.info/WhoRU/SArchive.htm

    (I don't like his manners and presentation nor his voice so I'm prejudiced against Eric Williams, but that doesn't mean he is wrong.)

    The Hidden History of Money & New World Order Usury Secrets by Alexander James http://www.lulu.com/alexjames999

    Description:

    Learn the history of how the current enslaving monetary system, in which the Banklords get a credit monopoly (which gives them the power to create money from nothing at no liability to themselves because it is redeemable for any goods or services produced by anyone willing to accept the private Federal Reserve dollar currency notes and cheques) and use our tax system to collect the fraudulent interest was brought about by the forces of the banking family dynasties working to establish a tyrannical New World Order through a series of wars, depressions, deficits, propaganda and crimes in which good politicians are murdered or removed by the New World Order (N.W.O.) mafias (CIA, Mossad, MI5/6, etc.). Learn how ancient pagan cults are elitist-made inventions designed to allow the elitist priesthood (Pharisees) to con value out of those that follow them and learn how these Pharisees have transformed themselves and are leading everyone back towards feudal fascist enslavement.

    Purchase Printed: 686 pages, 8.5" x 11", perfect binding, black and white interior ink

    Download Free: 1 documents, (30278 KB)
    http://www.lulu.com/content/165077

    Yamaguchy did have the David Astle book BABYLONIAN WOE

    It has been removed, but you can get this book in two formats here:

    http://www.archive.org/details/TheBabylonianWoe

    88 pages; about 800 KB download - in PDF format:

    http://ia350633.us.archive.org/2/ite...lonian_Woe.pdf

    FTP: (I have not tried this link)

    ftp://ia350633.us.archive.org/2/items/TheBabylonianWoe

    http://books.google.com/books?id=qmr...roke+the+world

    William Jennings Bryan gave his famous speech where the phrase "You shall not press upon the bow of labor this crown of thorns, you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold" at a Democratic convention in the year 1896. This was a direct result of the 1873 coinage act. You can see a U-Tube recording of this speech here:


    Three minutes, twenty nine seconds. Other places have the transcript.
    The Dayspring Library will not load properly with the latest version of Internet Explorer (Microsoft browser), but will load with Firefox and Linux browsers.

    Here is another extensive online library of old founding books and ancient stuff. This link sorts by subject matter and title:

    http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php...icxt&Itemid=27
     
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    BIBLIOGRAPHY OF
    LYSANDER SPOONER

    The Law of Intellectual Property
    http://www.lysanderspooner.org/intellect/contents.htm

    The Deist's reply to the alleged supernatural evidences of Christianity
    http://www.lysanderspooner.org/deists/deistsreplymain.html

    The Unconstitutionality of the Laws of Congress Prohibiting Private Mails (1844)
    http://www.lysanderspooner.org/PrivateMail.htm

    The Unconstitutionality of Slavery.
    An Essay on the Trial by Jury.
    A Defence for Fugitive Slaves, Against the Acts of Congress of February 12, 1793, & September 18, 1850.
    No Treason.
    Vices Are Not Crimes: A vindication of Moral Liberty.
    Natural Law; or The Science of Justice.
    A Letter to Thomas F. Bayard.
    A Letter to Grover Cleveland.



    The Unconstitutionality of Slavery (1845, 1860)
    http://www.lysanderspooner.org/UnconstitutionalityOfSlaveryContents.htm

    Illegality of the Trial of John W. Webster (1850)
    http://www.lysanderspooner.org/webster.htm

    Who caused the Reduction of Postage? Ought He To Be Paid? (1850)
    http://www.lysanderspooner.org/WCROP.htm

    Other links that could be googled:

    The Deist's Immortality, and An Essay On Man's Acountability For His Belief (1834).
    "To the Members of the Legislature of Massachusetts" (1835).
    Constitutional Law, Relative to Credit, Currency, and Banking (1843).
    The Unconstitutionality of the Laws of Congress, Prohibiting Private Mails (1844).
    The Unconstitutionality of Slavery (1845, 1860).*
    Poverty: Its Illegal Causes, and Legal Cure. Part I (1846).
    Who caused the Reduction of Postage? Ought He To Be Paid? (1850).
    Illegality of the Trial of John W. Webster. (1850).
    An Essay on the Trial by Jury (1852).*
    A Defence for Fugitive Slaves, Against the Acts of Congress of February 12, 1793, & September 18, 1850 (1850).*
    A Plan for The Abolition of Slavery (and) To The Non-Slaveholders of the South (1858).
    Address of the Free Constitutionalists to the People of the United States (1860).
    A New System of Paper Currency (1861).
    Our Mechanical Industry, As Affected By Our Present Currency System: An Argument for the Author's New System of Paper Currency. (1862).
    Articles of Association of the Spooner Copyright Company for Massachusetts (1863).
    Letter To Charles Sumner (1864).
    No Treason. No. I (1867).*
    No Treason. No. II, The Constitution (1867).
    No Treason. No. VI, The Constitution of No Authority. (1870).*
    Considerations for Bankers, and Holders of United States Bonds (1864).
    Vices Are Not Crimes: A vindication of Moral Liberty (1875).*
    Our Financiers: Their Ignorance, Usurpations, and Frauds (1877).
    The Law of Prices: A Demonstration of The Necessity for an Indefinite Increase of Money (1877).
    Gold and Silver as Standards of Value: The Flagrant Cheat in Regard to Them (1878).
    Universal Wealth Shown to be Easily Attainable. Part First (1879).
    Revolution: The Only Remedy for the Oppresed Classes of Ireland, England, and Other Parts of the British Empire. No. 1 (1880).
    Natural Law; or The Science of Justice: A Treatise on Natural Law, Natural Justice, Natural Rights, Natural Liberty, and Natural Society; Showing That All Legislation Whatsoever Is An Absurdity, A Usurpation, and A Crime. Part First (1882). *
    A Letter to Thomas F. Bayard: Challenging His Right - And that of All the Other So-Called Senators and Representative in Congress - To Exercise Any Legislative Power Whatever Over the People of the United States (1882).*
    A Letter to Scientists and Inventors, on the Science of Justice, and Their Right of Perpetual Property in Their Disclosures and Inventions (1884).
    A Letter to Grover Cleveland, on His False Inaugural Addrewss, The Usurpations and Crimes of Lawmakers and Judges, and the Consequent Poverty, Ignorance, and Servitude of the People (1886). *
    * E-Texts transcribed by Lawrence Casella appear here with his permission.

    FYI from Carver
    You will need to create a user name and password to use this source, but the process is simple and quick.

    Provided by Green Mountain Boy (GIM member): http://www.scribd.com/people/view/697837
    Distribution of Ownership
    This is a image format PDF download from Google

    http://books.google.com/books?id=C6s...p&lr=&as_brr=1

    You could read it page by page online, but a download option [failed to fully download and open properly - two attempts made] is available.
    Look to the top of the right column.

    Joseph Harding Underwood, University of Montana -1907
     
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    THE WORLD ORDER

    A Study in the
    Hegemony of Parasitism

    by

    Eustace Mullins

    http://www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/78...rldord_01.html
    Above book by Eustace Mullins is a must read.


    This link intrigued
    http://www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/ve...cretwar_06.rtf
    New World Order - Illuminati book:

    http://d.scribd.com/docs/11ucvwj7sighs6bbnb9n.pdf
    495 pages

    So far in this thread, I have posted only on-line books, but now will make an exception.
    Get this audio file and listen. Listen two, three times. ABSOLUTE DYNAMITE

    Bud Burrell:
    http://www.financialsense.com/Experts/2008/Burrell.html

    Get a picture like never on television, and this guy knows what he is talking about. A small portion is about the related mortgage crisis.

    Two sites are recommended at the end of this presentation:
    http://www.deepcapture.com/ and http://www.thesanitycheck.com/

    The Bud Burrell audio file integrates with the NWO book.
    Don't know why I have never heard of this fellow before - but anyway -

    Dr. Emanuel Mann Josephson

    Learned about him listening to an "Informer" interview: http://vyzygoth.com/audio/327-The ...r Pt 1.mp3

    Emanuel Josephson books: http://openlibrary.org/a/OL2123652A

    The particular book the Informer mentions about 55 minutes into the interview
    is this one: Josephson, Emanuel M.The Federal Reserve Conspiracy &
    Rockefellers: Their Gold Corner. Chedney Press, New York, 1968

    http://openlibrary.org/b/OL5620506M

    Google claims this book was digitized February 2008 and is 274 pages, but you need to (buy?) sign into your Google account.

    The Informer interview goes deeply into the history of commercial law and the tie in to admiralty.

    Econ Library by Author: Irving Fisher

    http://www.econlib.org/library/classicsauF.html#fisher

    The Purchasing Power of Money

    "The purpose of this book is to set forth the principles determining the purchasing power of money and to apply those principles to the study of historical changes in that purchasing power, including in particular the recent change in "the cost of living," which has aroused world-wide discussion.

    "If the principles here advocated are correct, the purchasing power of money--or its reciprocal, the level of prices--depends exclusively on five definite factors: (1) the volume of money in circulation; (2) its velocity of circulation; (3) the volume of bank deposits subject to check; (4) its velocity; and (5) the volume of trade. Each of these five magnitudes is extremely definite, and their relation to the purchasing power of money is definitely expressed by an "equation of exchange." In my opinion, the branch of economics which treats of these five regulators of purchasing power ought to be recognized and ultimately will be recognized as an exact science, capable of precise formulation, demonstration, and statistical verification.... "

    The text of this edition is in the public domain.
     
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    "Natural Man vs. Artificial Person, Law, Money & Banking" Part 1/6











     
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    CEO's - Collateralized Debt Obligations

    [video]http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/10/03/whiteboard_crisis_explainer_uncorking_cdos/[/video]
     
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    The Illusion
     

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    Does Common Law exist?

    Part 1



    Part 2

     
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    Your car

    Title 18 USC 31:

    "Motor vehicle" means every description or other contrivance propelled
    or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the
    highways in the transportation of passengers, or passengers and property.

    "Used for commercial purposes" means the carriage of persons or property
    for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other considerations, or directly or indirectly
    in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit.

    This definition of "motor vehicle" does not include "private motor Vehicles"
    as distinguished from the 18 USC 31 "motor vehicle" definition .
     
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    For posterity

    August 23, 2010
    Why Quantitative Easing is Likely to Trigger a Collapse of the U.S. Dollar

    John P. Hussman, Ph.D.
    All rights reserved and actively enforced.
    Reprint Policy

    A week ago, the Federal Reserve initiated a new program of "quantitative
    easing" (QE), with the Fed purchasing U.S. Treasury securities and paying
    for those securities by creating billions of dollars in new monetary base.
    Treasury bond prices surged on the action. With the U.S. economy
    predictably weakening, this second round of quantitative easing appears
    likely to continue. Unfortunately, the unintended side effect of this policy
    shift is likely to be an abrupt collapse in the foreign exchange value of the
    U.S. dollar.

    How exchange rates are determined - a primer

    http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc100823.htm
     
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    Thanks to slvrbugjim for this gem...

    1934 Film 'The House Of Rothschild'
    Hollywood Propaganda That Is All Too Clear Now
    By Richard Eastman
    8-22-10

    If you are even semi-awake to the Zionist threat this movie will blow your mind (I had to pick my jaw up several times).

    Part 1 "The House of Rothschild"


    Part 2 "The House of Rothschild"


    Part 3 "The House of Rothschild"


    Part 4 "The House of Rothschild"


    Part 5 "The House of Rothschild"


    Part 6 "The House of Rothschild"


    Part 7 "The House of Rothschild"


    Part 8 "The House of Rothschild"


    Part 9 "The House of Rothschild"


    Part 10 "The House of Rothschild"


    http://www.rense.com/general91/roth.htm
     
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    Interesting video on 911 from member: "raging"

     
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    Most Serious Economic Crisis in Modern History

    The October 2008 financial meltdown is not the result of a cyclical economic phenomenon. It is the deliberate result of US government policy instrumented through the Treasury and the US Federal Reserve Board.

    This is the most serious economic crisis in World history.

    The "bailout" proposed by the US Treasury does not constitute a "solution" to the crisis. In fact quite the opposite: it is the cause of further collapse. It triggers an unprecedented concentration of wealth, which in turn contributes to widening economic and social inequalities both within and between nations.

    The levels of indebtedness have skyrocketed. Industrial corporations are driven into bankruptcy, taken over by the global financial institutions. Credit, namely the supply of loanable funds, which constitutes the lifeline of production and investment, is controlled by a handful of financial conglomerates.

    With the "bailout", the public debt has spiraled. America is the most indebted country on earth. Prior to the "bailout", the US public debt was of the order of 10 trillion dollars. This US dollar denominated debt is composed of outstanding treasury bills and government bonds held by individuals, foreign governments, corporations and financial institutions.

    "The Bailout": The US Administration is Financing its Own Indebtedness

    Ironically, the Wall Street banks --which are the recipients of the bailout money-- are also the brokers and underwriters of the US public debt. Although the banks hold only a portion of the public debt, they transact and trade in US dollar denominated public debt instruments Worldwide.

    In a bitter twist, the banks are the recipients of a 700+ billion dollar handout and at the same time they act as creditors of the US government.

    We are dealing with an absurd circular relationship: To finance the bailout, Washington must borrow from the banks, which are the recipients of the bailout.

    The US administration is financing its own indebtedness.

    Federal, State and municipal governments are increasingly in a straightjacket, under the tight control of the global financial conglomerates. Increasingly, the creditors call the shots on government reform.

    The bailout is conducive to the consolidation and centralization of banking power, which in turn backlashes on real economic activity, leading to a string of bankruptcies and mass unemployment.

    Will an Obama Administration Reverse the Tide?

    The financial crisis is the outcome of a deregulated financial architecture.

    Obama has stated unequivocally his resolve to address the policy failures of the Bush administration and "democratize" the US financial system. President-Elect Barack Obama says that he is committed to reversing the tide:

    "Let us remember that if this financial crisis taught us anything, it’s that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers. In this country, we rise or fall as one nation, as one people." (President-elect Barack Obama, November 4, 2008, emphasis added)

    The Democrats casually blame the Bush administration for the October financial meltdown.

    Obama says that he will be introducing an entirely different policy agenda which responds to the interests of Main Street:

    "Tomorrow, you can turn the page on policies that put the greed and irresponsibility of Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of men and women all across Main Street. Tomorrow you can choose policies that invest in our middle class and create new jobs and grow this economy so that everybody has a chance to succeed, from the CEO to the secretary and the janitor, from the factory owner to the men and women who work on the factory floor.( Barack Obama, election campaign, November 3, 2008, emphasis added)


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    I just ran through the www.deprogram.us/depro presentation and have mixed feelings about it. I've read some articles and watched some youtubes lately concerning the FED & CBs, the subversion of the U.S. Constitution, etc. I thought the presentation was a nicely organized collection of all the various bits and pieces I have stumbled across recently and I enjoyed The Matrix allegory. One of the most important bits I think is the re-establishment of constitutional rights supposedly lost with the addition of the 14th amendment.

    However, the presentation lost credibility at the end. After being prodded along and told I would learn the truth and how to free myself, come to find out, I saw I would have to pay to learn. Bait and switch tactic? Really? The presentation now seems designed only to push the products, The Red Amendment as well as additional workshops and classes that all cost $$$.

    To charge a fee to learn the path to freedom? How can one take that seriously? What about the poor who have nothing and need freedom the most? I understand someone or many someones spent a lot of their own time putting something like this together but why did they do it? To make money? I would think not. One generally does something like this because of a deep moral or spiritual imperative. A labor of love, yes? To help others awake and realize their own innate freedom is in itself a reward of the highest order. It made me very leery of the source and the underlying motive and/or agenda. Is it littered with misinformation? Does viewing it put you on a govt. watchlist? Is it a recruiting ground for elites and their minions looking for disaffected types to be used as patsies?

    So I feel the presentation either has an ulterior motive or someone made a decision to charge for freedom which is at best, in poor taste and undercuts credibility. Should we not be more like Tesla and less like Edison? Is that not the point of the presentation and exactly why the world is currently in this situation? Materialism, greed, the concept of ownership itself, these are the means by which we are made slaves in the first place.

    Am I off base here? Has anyone else watched this and had similar thoughts?
     
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    Some of these folks have spent 100's of hours of their own time and money researching this information. They want to be compensated.

    However, there are enough 'free' places for you to glean the same information on the net. It just depends on how much time (time is $) you want to invest to figure it all out!

    As for 'free', the stuff I post here in the Beginner's forum, it has taken me many, many hours to find and save it for everyone's perusal. Call it my personal curiosity? I've checked out ever one of these posts. Figure out how many hours it would take you to do the same!

    Consider it a gift from me to you!
     
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    Lots of good info here. Thanks. :beerglass:

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    Re: A place to start learning...i.e., Don't post here....

    Hello everyone, I just become a member here, and i'm a complete novice to gold and silver I've read a few books and i did some research online and i bought a few ounces of silver that's the extent of my investing so far. What i was wondering is when do you know when its a good time to buy? Is there a specific way that you calculate when to buy?
     

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