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Active shooter in Las Vegas - "hundreds of shots fired"

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    there is a guy/girl on B4news that posted this guy got arrested as the other shooter. So I interneted the SUN, LV's newspaper er whatever to look for confirmation and there was none and now he has stage fright? He will be wiped clean just like those people's phones.
     
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    'He reinforced my belief in kindness': Mystery customer pays for 59 strangers' meals at a Maine bakery in honor of Vegas massacre victims
    • A customer at Maple's Bakery in Yarmouth, Maine paid for his meal and 59 others
    • Did so as a means to honor the victims of the October 1 Las Vegas Massacre
    • Bakery's owner wrote on Facebook: 'Thank you to the customer who reinforced my belief in kindness'
    • The customer wished to remain anonymous


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4977546/Customer-pays-59-customers-meals-Maine-bakery.html#ixzz4vOvqOAd9
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    Who wrote the script on this one? This has more plot twists and turns than I could have ever imagined. Did someone just post yesterday that this guy was under 24/7 security? Now he's gone.. The house in Reno under 24/7 security gets broken into also..
    SMH.. I cant wait for the briefing today. Will his GF in FBI custody also go missing? probably Campos ran to her and helped her escape but before that the girl that was with Paddock right before the shooting will turn out to be the burgler in the renop house and she probably stole a bunch of cash. She's going to meet up with campos and the Paddocks GF in Mexico, where they will doublecross Campos and throw him in the Rio Grande and the lesbian couple will live happily ever after.
     
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    Latest update from the sheriff starts at about 8 minutes in.

    Nothing new really. He is very aware of public forums and criticism. FBI also had a statement.
    Nothing about the reno house being broken into or about Campos being missing and they were not taking questions.

    I guess the timeline did change again. Said Campos was fired upon just before the shooter started on the crowd.

    I'm getting the impression they are throwing stuff out, reviewing the criticism and making changes until something fits. Very strange how we go from, the shooter was stopped because campos showed up, to campos showed up, was shot then 6 minutes later the shooting started to now, Campos showed up just at 10;05 and was shot first then the shooting started.

    No other facts have been released. Just call the FBI if you have any info.

    It only took 2 weeks to come up with this. SMH.....
     
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    This event is America's Reichstag Fire!
     
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    ....email, a little birdie ate up with this Vegas event. No links, but rest easy, I have all my "boys"on the case.
     
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    image.jpeg House rentals, everywhere. Airbnb is legit, Max and I have used them before.

    "
    Each host reported that they did not see Paddock at their property.

    Another host lamented that they were changing the sheets simply out procedure, because they were never touched.

    Another odd detail was that although the police reported that Paddock used the service on three different occasions, the shooter also rented a fourth property which overlapped another. He had two rentals from Sept. 17 through Sept. 22, and Sept. 19th through Sept. 22 which means that for those nights he had control of two homes.

    The fourth reservation – one in Las Vegas that they said overlapped with another reservation in the same city.

    It is strange that two different locations to be booked at the same time and in the same city for only one person—but even stranger that the police failed to mention this fourth reservation, they said.

    Paddocks last IP activity was Sept. 21, despite having an Airbnb house booked for Sept. 24 through 28, for which he had already received a review, they said.

    There are other irregularities, the insider said...."

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/airnb...-account-irregularities-raise-more-questions/

    I made mention many posts back about real estate, safe houses and spook houses. I am familiar with some of these practices, seems Paddock was to. To my surprise, when I saw this, it deserved to be posted. Draw your own conclusions, I drew mine some time ago, remember who I once worked for.
     
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    ....all that said, the key ( for me) to solving this puzzle would be to closely examine one of Paddock's passports. I would know what to look for. Bet we never see it....
     
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    got that right.
     
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    I'm surprised someone didn't find it on the sidewalk in front of the hotel!
     
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    Even if they did, most would not know what to look for. If, as they say, he had planned an escape, it is highly likely it is still out " there" someplace where he had previously hidden away, an unlikely place known only to him and no where near any place he ever lived or ever visited.....likely it was mailed somewhere....
     
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    Or he won't be found.
     
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    Perhaps whoever broke into Paddock's house last Sunday was looking for it?
     
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    No, I am thinking they put something there.

    Just a hunch but me be waiting for something to show up on/after the second search. *crosses heart and hopes to die for using half of searchers name*
     
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    Two windows are removed to place sheathing over a broken window. Doesn't show how long it takes to get them out, but they sure popped right back in pretty quickly. Other shooters could have been in other rooms and removed the windows and put them back afterwards and left Paddock in the room with broken windows to draw attention to a single shooter theory.

     
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    OCTOBER 13, 2017
    LAS VEGAS SHOOTING SURVIVOR KYMBERLEY SUCHOMEL, WHO CLAIMED MULTIPLE SHOOTERS INVOLVED, DIES UNEXPECTEDLY
    PATRICIA RAMIREZ

    Just over a week after living through the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history in Las Vegas on October 1, shooting survivor and witness Kymberley Suchomel passed away at the age of 28. Suchomel was uninjured in the shooting at the Route 91 Harvest Festival, and after the terrifying event she used her Facebook presence to contradict the official story of a lone gunman. According to Kymberley Suchomel’s posts, there were multiple shooters involved in the horrific mass shooting that left 58 people dead and 546 injured. In fact, Suchomel, who was the co-founder of the High Desert Phoenix Foundation (a charity that financially assists victims of tragedies), claimed that she and those in her party were “chased” by more than one active shooter.

    “Bullets were coming from every direction. Behind us, in front of us, to the side of us. But I know, I just know, that there was someone chasing us. The entire time I felt this way. The farther we got from the venue, the closer the gunfire got. I kept looking back expecting to see the gunmen- and I say MEN because there was more than one person. There was more than one gun firing. 100% more than one.

    As we were running, we kept changing direction, because it felt like no matter what direction we took, we were being followed.”

    As Seacoast Online reports, Las Vegas shooting survivor Kymberley Suchomel was found dead early Monday in her home by her grandmother and High Desert Phoenix Foundation co-founder, Julie Norton. According to Norton, she found her granddaughter deceased in her bed at around 8:30 a.m. on October 9. Norton had reportedly come to the home to babysit Suchomel’s 3-year-old daughter.

    According to Norton, she believes that her granddaughter must have died in her sleep sometime between when her husband left for work at 4:30 a.m. and when she arrived to tend to her granddaughter. Julie Norton added that Kymberley Suchomel was epileptic, and that she believes the stress of the Las Vegas shooting may have directly contributed to the 28-year-old’s death.

    “Kymberley had epilepsy and she’s always been prone to seizures — she told her friend that she recently had three focal seizures. I believe the stress from the shooting took her life.”

    Suchomel was also reportedly taking medication to treat a pituitary tumor at the time of her death.

    Since the Las Vegas shooting, Kymberley Suchomel has spoken out publicly on social media about the horror of witnessing the the attack that targeted more than 20,000 concert attendees on October 1. In her own words, she found herself in a “state of shock” following the attack. In an interview with the VV Daily Press, Suchomel cited lingering insomnia and memories of the sound of gunfire.

    “I’m most definitely in a state of shock and it will take some time for me to get over this. I haven’t been able to sleep and I still keep hearing the sound of loud pops in my head.”

    Suchomel also publicly recalled her frantic escape from the concert area, claiming that terrified attendees were forced to tear down a fence at the venue when they couldn’t find another means of escape. Kymberley said that she and her group were “literally inches” away from people being shot as they fled, and that she called both her husband and grandmother to tell them “goodbye” during the traumatic ordeal.

    Roughly 72 hours after the Las Vegas shooting, Kymberley Suchomel recounted her recollection of the events of October 1 in a public Facebook post. Near the end of the lengthy description of how she and her group of friends escaped the barrage of bullets, Suchomel claimed that media and official accounts of the Las Vegas shooting didn’t match what she and other eyewitnesses saw. She even wrote that some of the evidence touted by authorities “seems fake.”

    What’s more, Suchomel claimed that “every single other survivor” of the Vegas shooting that she’d spoken to believed that there was more than one shooter that night, and that at least one of the shooters involved was on the ground.

    “I have bene watching the news non-stop since I arrived back home to my family. And it just doesn’t make sense. The story that are feeding everyone doesn’t add up to our eyewitness accounts. There is something wrong with what they are saying & the evidence seems fake if you ask me. There are multiple people stating that there was a lady towards the beginning of the evening who had made her way up to the stage warning people that we were all gunna die- her and her boyfriend were escorted off the premises. Why has she not been mentioned by authorities? Every single survivor I have talked to also remembers multiple shooters, and at least one from the ground- why aren’t we being taken more seriously? Tons of things don’t add up. [sic]”

    Since news of her death broke earlier this week, many have taken to social media to express their shock and disbelief.

    Las Vegas shooting survivor Kymberley Suchomel was found deceased just days before victim and security guard Jesus Campos was scheduled to break his silence about what happened that night. On Thursday evening, Campos had lined up five TV interviews with various news outlets. As Fox News reports, moments before he was expected to appear before the cameras, Jesus Campos simply vanished. As of Friday morning, his whereabouts were still unknown.

    Kymberley Suchomel’s sudden and unexpected death also came just days before the Las Vegas Police Department made a significant change to their official timeline of events on the night of the mass shooting. As CNN reports, Sheriff Joe Lombardo detailed the updated information in a Friday press conference, and the changes to the timeline were directly connected to the injuries suffered by Jesus Campos. Initially, investigators believed that Campos was shot through a 32nd floor hotel room door by presumed “lone wolf” shooter Stephen Paddock at 9:59 p.m. on October 1, six full minutes before the gunman opened fire on the crowd of concertgoers below.

    Now, investigators say that Campos was unable to access Paddock’s hotel room at 9:59 p.m., and was forced to find an alternate route that didn’t allow him to reach the door until roughly 10:05 p.m. Authorities now claim that Paddock shot Campos through his hotel room door at that time, then immediately (or within 40 seconds) opened fire on the crowd that included Kymberley Suchomel and roughly 20,000 additional country music fans.

    In his Friday press conference, Sheriff Lombardo admitted that as the investigation into the Las Vegas shooting advances, it’s possible that the timeline will continue to be refined, and that it’s possible that “new facts” may be reported.

    “This is a very dynamic event.”
     
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    The security guard and now a young woman.
    The first of many who buck the official narrative.
    I'm sure other people will "commit suicide" and fall down elevator shafts, "accidentally ", of course.
     
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    Published on Oct 2, 2017

    "A SWAT team is scene in this video entering the Tropicana after a shooting Sunday on the Las Vegas Strip"

     
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    Sent on a wild goose chase?

    Man, the guy who is carrying his rifle so it is pointing at everyone he walks past, gave me the willys. I’m the one you see ducking at gun shows when someone points a gun in my direction.
     
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    Just like they do with gun content videos and any right wing content videos. They censor them, making them less likely to show up in your YouTube homepage, as well as demonitizing them. It's all to make sure viewpoints they disagree with don't get widespread distribution. They're almost like communist propaganda ministers,... uhhh, wait...
     
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    They're on the list too along with this guy!

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    This story is over nobody cares.
     
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    Ho-boy! U know what? Me be going up to Columbia County to have a chat with the She-ruff. Me b bringing Plaintiff power. And, as you would think "that is so over."

    No, I ai't heard no fat lady sing and until that then it is rousy carousy and shoot the fat lady.

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    I think they've succeeded in scaring the crap out of and silencing everybody who really has a clue what's going on. The rest of us know the official story is bullshit, but we're all so confused we don't know what to truly make of it all.
     
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    The LV shooting is almost at 9/11 status already. Everyone knows its a lie but no one in power actually cares to disrupt their life about it. There are no heroes in government folks. They don't work for us!!! In fact, one could say they work against us!
     
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    Wounded casino security guard vanishes from Las Vegas — and surfaces on the set of 'Ellen'
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    By MATT PEARCE
    OCT 17, 2017

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    Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino maintenance engineer Stephen Schuck, left, and security guard Jesus Campos appear on the set of "Ellen." (Michael Rozman / Warner Bros. )

    The mystery is over: Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos has been found.

    On the set of "Ellen."

    On Wednesday, Ellen DeGeneres’ television talk show is expected to broadcast the much-anticipated first interview with the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino security guard, who was the first shooting victim in the Oct. 1 massacre in Las Vegas.

    DeGeneres tweeted a photo of Campos holding a cane on the set Tuesday alongside maintenance engineer Stephen Schuck, who was also shot at by the gunman on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel.

    The news ended five days of speculation over the whereabouts of the security guard, who was shot as he passed outside gunman Stephen Paddock’s hotel room and who holds important information on who knew what and when as the shooting rampage got underway.

    Reporters had been looking for Campos to help explain what happened in the moments before Paddock began firing at the crowd assembled for a country music festival opposite the hotel — and how long it took for police to respond.

    Shifting timelines given by police and near-total silence from Mandalay Bay's owners have left Campos as one of the only potential sources of first-hand information on how the shooting rampage unfolded and how the hotel responded.

    In a recording of his appearance on "Ellen" obtained by the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Campos, who said he was "doing better each day, slowly but surely," confirmed he had called in when he was shot — before the full rampage began. But he gave few other details that would answer nagging questions about the response of hotel security and Las Vegas police.

    Appearing in a gray suit and with a cane, Campos said he got an alert for an open door on the 32nd floor. He went up a stairwell from the 31st to the 32nd floor, but the stairwell door was blocked — apparently by the gunman — so he had to take another route to get to the floor.

    When he got onto the 32nd floor and reached the stairwell door — which was inside a small room with two doors that separates the stairwell from the hallway, immediately adjacent to Paddock's suite — Campos found a "metal bracket" blocking the door to the stairwell.

    He said he called security dispatch to transfer his call to the building's engineers, who sent an engineer to examine the door.

    "At that time I heard what I assumed was drilling sounds," Campos said. (Officials have said that Paddock appeared to be drilling into a wall inside his room for unknown reasons.) As Campos walked down the hall, away from Paddock's suite, the outer door of the access room, which was unblocked, closed loudly behind him.

    "I believe that's what caught the shooter's attention," Campos said. "As I was walking down, I heard rapid fire, and at first I took cover." The gunman was shooting through the door of his hotel suite. "I don't know how he was shooting."

    Campos felt a "burning sensation" and went to lift his pant leg up and, seeing blood, realized he'd been shot.

    "That's when I called it in on my radio that shots had been fired," Campos said. "I was going to say that I was hit, but I got on my cellphone just to clear that radio traffic for — they can coordinate the rest of the call."

    Engineer Schuck, responding to Campos' earlier call about a blocked door, arrived on a service elevator from a higher floor, and he spotted Campos at the end of a hallway. It was quiet as Schuck walked toward Paddock's end of the hallway. Then he saw Campos and heard gunshots.

    "At the time I didn't know it was shooting; I thought it was a jackhammer," Schuck said.

    Campos said "take cover, take cover," Schuck said. "Within milliseconds, if he didn't say that, I would have got hit.... They were passing behind my head, and I could feel pressure."

    One female guest came out of her room, and Campos told her to take cover in her room.

    Campos thanked the first responders and the community for their work during their "darkest hour."

    DeGeneres hinted that Campos would not be giving any more interviews after appearing on her show, but that the appearance was unpaid.

    "You're talking about it now and you're not going to talk about it again," DeGeneres said, adding, "We of course wanted to give you money, and you both were very, very specific. You said you don't want money, you don't want money at all, so you're not getting any money."

    Speculation about Campos' whereabouts had begun after he mysteriously left a Las Vegas hotel room Thursday where he was preparing for televised interviews on the Sean Hannity show on Fox, as well as news shows on CNN, CBS, ABC and NBC. No interviews took place.

    David Hickey, president of the Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America union that represents the security guards at Mandalay Bay, told The Times that he was attending a meeting with MGM representatives in one room of the suite as Campos waited with a security guard — hired by MGM — and another union member in the living room.

    When the meeting ended about 2 p.m., Hickey said Campos no longer was in the room.

    "When I got in touch with the other union member, I was told Campos was taken to the Quick Care" health clinic, Hickey said.

    Hickey didn't hear from the guard afterward and announced to a scrum of reporters that night that Campos had canceled interviews. Campos didn't contact his union in the days after he walked away.

    The company that owns the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino issued a statement Tuesday that implied it was in touch with Campos as questions mounted over the Las Vegas casino's response to the mass shooting.

    "Jesus Campos wants to tell his story at a time and place of his choosing," Debra DeShong, a spokeswoman for MGM Resorts International, said in a statement after the Los Angeles Times requested an interview with him. "He's asked that everyone respect his request for privacy. We could not be more proud of Jesus."

    Las Vegas police initially stated that Paddock shot Campos through the door of his hotel suite on the 32nd floor midway through his attack on the concert, essentially crediting Campos with turning Paddock's attention away from the Route 91 Harvest country music festival across the street.

    But police later said that Campos was shot six minutes before the attack began, and then officials changed their story again, stating that Campos was shot moments before Paddock began his attack on the concert.

    Police and casino officials have said that Campos promptly reported the gunman to hotel security and that police officers and armed security responded immediately to the 32nd floor, where Paddock had a suite.

    But the first officers to get to the floor arrived 12 minutes after Paddock had launched his assault on the crowd — and two minutes after he had stopped shooting — raising questions about how quickly the hotel had informed officers on the scene about Campos' report.

    Times staff writers Jaweed Kaleem, Melissa Etehad and Ruben Vives contributed to this report.

    matt.pearce@latimes.com | @mattdpearce

    ALSO

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    UPDATES:

    11:40 p.m.: The story was updated with details of Campos' television appearance.

    8:25 p.m.: The story was updated with news of Campos' upcoming appearance on television.

    The story was originally published at 12:55 p.m.


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