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America the Beautiful 5 oz Silver Bullion Coins

Discussion in 'PM's - Coins - Numis - Base Metals' started by JayDubya, Jun 20, 2010.



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    Starter Silver Member Silver Miner

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    So is a MS 69 PL about as good as a 70?
     
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    savvydon Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Kind of an apples to oranges comparison. With the bullion pucks, 69 is the highest numerical grade. This pertains to the amount of, or lack of surface imperfections. The PL or DPL designations refer to how deeply mirrored the coins surfaces are.

    In this regard, a bullion 69 is similar to a 'P' puck 70 in that they are both the highest numerical grades the major companies will grant each issue. The PL or DPL designation is an independent factor for the bullion pucks. In general, the more deeply mirrored the coin/designation is the more coveted the coin. Some bullion issues are more likely to feature PL or DPL characteristics than others.

    Note the 'P' pucks never receive PL or DPL designation. This is because these issues receive a special treatment that gives the coins a pleasing satiny surface which diffuses light rather than directly reflect it.
     
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    Foxwoods Man Silver Member Silver Miner

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    Well said....
     
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    Theodore Roosevelt bullion coin mintage stands at 41,200 today...

    AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL FIVE OUNCE SILVER BULLION
    CALENDAR YEAR - 2016
    Shawnee National Forest
    Cumberland Gap National Historical Park Harpers Ferry National Historical Park Theodore Roosevelt National Park Fort Moultrie
    (Fort Sumter National Monument)
    Total Sales
    105,000 75,000 36,800 41,200 30,800 288,800


    The coin is on sale at MCM, at $107.60 (with credit card)...

    https://www.moderncoinmart.com/2016...ul-theodore-roosevelt-np-gem-bu-sku42421.html


     
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    looks like the big numbers early on scared buyers away. I picked up a few of the Harpers Ferry and at 36,800 ...glad I did.
     
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    Looks like I got one of the last tubes of Teddy's from Provident (ordered a few days ago). The HF and Teddy are out of stock now. Still available elsewhere though. The Moultrie came out swinging at over 30k...interesting to see where this one lands. I thought it would be a sleeper...but it doesn't look that way

    I like Provident 'cuz, in addition to decent prices and free shipping, they accept E-Check so no need to wait for a mailed check to arrive....and save some decent cash over a CC. Around four days later the coins are shipped.
     
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    savvydon Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    That has been the pattern. In 2010 we had the run on the first year coins. The mint countered by churning out big numbers in 2011 and then everyone got bored and went away. When numbers shrank and demand picked up last year the mint again responded only to see demand decline somewhat early this year secondary to increased supply. Time will tell but I still see these historic 5 oz silver coins with mintages generally in the 20,000-40,000 range as long term winners, especially when you can pick them up initially at near spot pricing. 2c...
     
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    Ordered a TR puck from MCM the other day and it arrived, but I was disappointed to see the coin packaged in a cheap plastic envelope with cracks.

    I used cotton gloves to move the coin to a ziploc bag, as I was afraid the cracked plastic envelope would scratch the surface of the coin. There appears to be a quarter-inch scratch that may have come from the envelope, but I am not sure...anyway, I didn't plan on sending the coin to be graded, so maybe it won't matter.

    Next time, when ordering single pucks I will prefer APMEX, even if it means paying 3 or 4 dollars more than other dealers.
     
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    Foxwoods Man Silver Member Silver Miner

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    JM Bullion, BGASC and APMEX ship individual pucks in capsules....but...don't expect them to be handled with cotton gloves. They are sold as a bullion product not a collector coin
     
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    I like coins that do not have humans in the design. The theme is national parks. I don't think showing a human walking on a trail, or paddling a canoe is necessary. Show the said park in it's pristine state. The designs have gone downhill the past few years in my opinion.
     
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    And you can bet the better coins have been sent off to be graded. Some of the big outfits say they don't do that, but I find it hard to believe.
     
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    Probably...but if you are buying them as a bullion product then that shouldn't be an issue
     
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    I believe the designs gave already been chosen. I posted the selections in another thread awhile back.
    mI-8
    Wi-9
    Mn-6
    Ga-6
    Ri-2

    I was hoping for Mi-9 minus the kid in the kayak.
     
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    The mint website is showing sales of 27,900 on the Ft Moultrie. Is that right?
     
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    Yup...that bullion issue will be the lowest mintage in a couple of years
     
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    With the payout for unused PTO coming later this week, I just might have enough funds to buy more of these coins, after all those commemorative and first spouse gold coins I bought over the last year...
     
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    What is a PTO in your world?
    In mine it is a power take off.
     
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    He's probably referring to Payed Time Off - PTO.
     
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    That would be quite the trick.
     
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    Correct!

    If spent properly, though, it can also become a Power Take Off for one's PM investments, given the right market conditions...
     
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    Just ordered a Fort Moultrie puck and a random MS64 Peace Dollar from APMEX (both on sale).

    Even though I got the PTO payout from my last job today, I decided to go light with today's purchase, as my gold purchases in the past year are still in my rear view mirror.
     

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