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Ammon Bundy shares what happened to his brother Ryan today at the jail

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    Commentary re: JUDICIAL TRANSPARENCY


    DAY 7 — Wednesday, September 21, 2016
    Today, Oregon State Police Trooper Jeremiah Beckert confirmed what many have suspected for a long time — that Mark McConnell was a government informant, and was providing “intel” to the government for the arrest operation. Beckert also testified about the arrests of Ammon Bundy, Brian Cavalier, and supposedly Mark McConnell, who was immediately released and shortly afterward produced a video stating that he had seen the shooting of LaVoy Finicum and that Finicum had been “charging” the officers.
    Judge Brown repeatedly warned the Defendants and their attorneys that discussing and questioning witnesses about the shooting of LaVoy Finicum was off-limits, but she allowed the government to ask questions about Finicum and the circumstances surrounding his shooting. In the afternoon, the government called Deschutes County Sheriff Detective Ron Brown to testify. He held up handguns, and claimed that they belonged to LaVoy Finicum, stating that one — with one round in the gun — was on Finicum’s person, and the other was found on the floorboard of his pickup, under the driver’s seat. He also held up .223 caliber rifles, and testified that they were found under the back seat of Finicum’s truck.

    In light of the fact that Judge Brown has repeatedly stated the Finicum’s shooting death is completely irrelevant to the case, and her repeated warnings to the defendants and their attorneys about it, it is very interesting that she continues to allow the prosecution and its witnesses to talk about, and present evidence about it. Her apparent reasoning is that it helps support the charge of conspiracy to impede or interfere with federal officers. But she won’t allow the defendants to explore anything about it.
    The prosecution also presented evidence about the remaining four “hold-outs” who remained at the refuge until their final surrender on February 11th. This evidence included photographs, and recordings of the negotiations between the FBI and the four last remaining hold-outs, including Jeff Banta, David Fry, and husband and wife, Sean & Sandra Anderson. This evidence was presented through FBI Special Agent Marc Maxwell, who was doing much of the negotiation for the FBI.
    The prosecution played at least four recordings of telephone conversations between Maxwell and Jeff Banta. When Maxwell asked what they wanted, Banta said the main thing they wanted was the Hammonds released — this whole thing is about the Hammonds.

    Banta also told Maxwell that they were concerned that they were going to be murdered just as LaVoy Finicum had been. Although Maxwell said they would be given safe passage to leave if they didn’t have any outstanding warrants, Banta and others in the background said they didn’t believe they could trust the FBI. Banta requested an independent third-party negotiator “that I can trust,” and suggested Reverend Franklin Graham, who was eventually contacted and became involved in the final negotiations. The government also played several of David Fry’s live streams from the refuge. By the end of the occupation, the four remaining hold-outs had removed themselves from the headquarters buildings, and were camping in a makeshift camp of their own in the West parking lot that they called “Camp Finicum” in honor of LaVoy. The goverment presented plenty of evidence that the last four hold-outs genuinely believed that they would probably meet the same fate as Finicum.

    What follows is Shari Dovales’ report on Wednesday’s Proceedings, from ReDoubt News:

    “The Malheur Protest Trial continued today with Judge Anna Brown repeating her orders to Ryan Bundy not to bring up the “FBI Cover-up”. “This is very serious controversy,” she told him. She warned him that if he attempted to bring up this point that she will have him removed from the courtroom and he will forfeit his right to represent himself.
    Later in the morning, Oregon State Police (OSP) Trooper Jeremiah Beckert testified about January 26, 2016, the day the FBI and OSP set up an illegal Dead-man’s Roadblock
    on Highway 395 north of Burns.[​IMG]

    Beckert testified that Mark McConnell, driver of the jeep, was a cooperating government informant that tipped them off as to the vehicles, which occupants were in the vehicles, etc. Beckert told the court that McConnell was the only occupant of the jeep that was armed. The other two passengers, Ammon Bundy and Brian Cavalier, were not armed.
    Beckert brought with him a 24-page statement to refresh his memory, but stated that most of the events were very clear in his mind. “This was a High Profile incident,” he stated. “A once in a lifetime event.”
    When defense attorney Mumford questioned him about the legality of the events, Beckert said, “It is not my job to understand the laws. It is my job to do what my supervisor tells me.”
    Beckert testified that he was assigned to apprehend the jeep during the operation to arrest the protesters. He was in an unmarked truck, and when he saw the jeep he hit his lights and sirens and went up behind them. After the arrests of the jeep passengers, Beckert drove off to assist with the vehicle driven by LaVoy Finicum.

    [​IMG]

    He testified that Finicum was on the ground and not moving when he arrived, and continued to describe the events after that, leading to the arrests of the remaining passengers.
    Judge Brown attempted to limit how many details were discussed in front of the jury, but some made their way into open court. It was noted that no shots came from the truck, and several non-lethal rounds were shot towards the truck. The lethal rounds were not discussed.
    “So the round that was shot into my shoulder, was it lethal or not lethal?” Ryan Bundy attempted to ask on cross-examination. This was another question that went unanswered.

    Since the defendants perception is the main focus, it would have been nice to hear if they could have discerned the difference between lethal and non-lethal rounds being shot at them, however, the Judge was having none of that.

    The prosecution has not presented a strong case, yet I am sure it will be enough for Judge Brown to send it to the jury. Let’s hope and pray that the jury is smart enough to see through them.
     
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    Shari Dovale explains the Malheur Protest trial.

    http://redoubtnews.com/2016/09/26/ex...protest-trial/

    Explaining the Malheur Protest Trial

    [​IMG]

    Explaining the Malheur Protest Trial


    By Shari Dovale

    I have been sitting in the courtroom throughout the majority of this trial. Beginning from thejury selection, it has been obvious that the government’s agenda will be upheld, at the cost of the truth.

    [​IMG]

    The government controlling your rights. (Their sign, and my ticket to a watch list.)

    For those that still don’t understand, let me explain.

    Ammon Bundy and the other defendants are on trial for ‘Conspiring to Impede Federal Officers’. This means that the government is accusing them of not allowing the employees of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge to go to work.

    Keep in mind that employees have already testified they continued to work.

    The government is allowed to bring in any evidence they deem appropriate to prove this charge. Evidence includes the actual weapons owned by LaVoy Finicum, Facebook ‘Memes’, and coaching of witnesses while they are on the stand.

    The defendants, however, are not allowed to explain why they were there (the Hammond case), what legal doctrine they based the protest on (Adverse Possession) or how the FBI lied about the murder of LaVoy.

    [​IMG]
    This meme could get me on a Terrorist Watch List.

    It has been decreed by Judge Anna Brown that, though the government first introduced thekilling of LaVoy, the defense will be held in contempt and charged $1,000 per instance if they even try to discuss the FBI cover-up of the killing. Brown has called it ‘irrelevant.’

    Remember, the government first brought it up, and is allowed to discuss what they want.

    Discussing the US Constitution is off limits as well. Judge Brown has made it very clear that only she can explain the law to the jury, and to have them consider the words of the Constitution is contrary to that ruling. If the jury were to read the Constitution, they might learn of more rights than she would like them to know, such as ‘jury nullification.’

    Brown made specific demands of the jury that they must swear to follow her ideas of the law and not consider this basic right. She stated that nullification is “just not right” but she fell short of calling it illegal.
    The Hammond family were in a similar position during their trial. Their jury was given very narrow instructions as to determine if Dwight and Steven actually started the fire in their case. The Hammond’s never denied starting that fire. But they were not allowed to present their defense of what happened.

    The original judge in their trial understood that the charges were a great overreach. He went outside the sentencing guidelines and gave them shorter time at their sentencing. The two men served the time. However, the Federal government was still unable to get their hands on the ranch and went back for further punishment. The Hammonds were forced back to prison under double-jeopardy to serve additional time.
    This is relevant because the Hammond case is what brought the Bundys to Oregon. Yet, Judge Brown will not allow these details into the trial.

    [​IMG]

    Another ‘anti-government’ memeThe FBI cover-up of the murder of LaVoy is relevant as well. The protesters have stated their fear and distrust of the FBI. These events substantiate their fears. The final four holdouts were affected even more by these events. They had already seen one of their own murdered, so their belief that they too could be killed is extremely relevant. Yet, Judge Brown states that it has no bearing on the case at hand.

    Do not forget that the government did not follow their own laws during this trial. They had specific guidelines on their Facebook warrant, yet they screwed that up and went way outside of the scope of the warrant. Though the judge agreed the government messed it up, she still allowed it to be used as evidence. How’s that for bias?

    The defendants are not allowed to put on a defense, period. This means that there is no defense to the government agenda. The government can say that ‘Liking’ someone’s Facebook meme can label you a terrorist. The government can say that the US Constitution is irrelevant. The government can say lying and hiding evidence of a murder is okay … if it is done by them. How do the citizen’s of this country defend against an out-of-control government like this?

    The country is under a Rule of Law that is contrary to the US Constitution, and what this country is based on. We are under imperial rule, governed by the elite ruling class, not by the people, as it was designed.
    God help us.

    [​IMG]
    Right-Wing Conspiracy meme
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Proof of premeditated murder !!!
    In my opinion - Ambush execution !!!

     
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    Trent Loos Rural Route Radio with Todd Macfarlane

    http://ruralrouteradio.com/affiliates/friruralroute.mp3

    It seems the government and all their kangaroo's can't prove any of their stated goals. But they do have one very important kangaroo and she is called a judge, but should be called the assistant prosecutor.

    The government introduces LaVoy into the trial and the prosecution can talk about him all they want, but according to the head kangaroo the defense is not allowed one question about him and will be held in contempt for doing so.

    In the gov's opening statement they made all sorts of claims, but fail to present any evidence to back up those claims.
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    That is how the "game" is played !!! Heads, I win - Tails you lose !!
     
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    https: //youtu.be/GqRlTS8tFxY


    John Lamb disussing this morning's happenings in Malheur standoff case
    Published on Oct 4, 2016
    This is John Lamb, 4 Oct 2016, AM. John explains what took place in the courtroom this morning and named several witnesses that will appear this week - Michele Fiore, Jeanette Finicum, Richard Mack and others.

    William Fry, David Fry's father, testified that initially he was opposed to David's participation in the occupation, but is now proud of David. Chris Briels and Lindsay Tyler, both residents of Burns, testified as well as others.

    Lisa Bundy is not being allowed to visit her husband, Ammon. Ammon will begin his testimony this afternoon.

    Prosecution had almost no questions for defense witnesses.
     
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    Skittish Sheriff Turns Burns Into A Warzone - Redoubt News
    can't embed:
    http://redoubtnews.com/2016/10/03/skittish-sheriff-turns-burns-warzone/

    BLM Agent Jeff Rose took the stand and testified that the BLM had a civil case against the Hammond Family. Testimony revealed that the Hammond’s had been fined $400,000 and the BLM also obtained a “Right of First Refusal” on their ranch, if they had to sell it to pay the fines. The Hammond patriarch’s are currently serving their second round of prison time for the same charge of arson/terrorism for protecting their ranch.

    [big picture: is the BLM your friend, or is the federal govt an occupying army declaring war against private property and US citizens?]
    http://redoubtnews.com/2016/10/03/skittish-sheriff-turns-burns-warzone/
     
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    Comments from Dr. McIntosh re jurisdiction/ownership of Malheur headquarters, who was subpoenaed by Shawna Cox

    Edit: the judge and prosecutors have all stepped out of their federal office by usurping jurisdiction where it doesn't exist. They could/should be subject to civil lawsuits, and criminal prosecution as well, but as Dr. Trowbridge points out they will immediately remove the case to the federal court system where their buddies protect them.

    Angus McIntosh

    20 hrs ·
    I was subpoenaed to testify in the Malheur Protest trial by one of the defendants, Shawna Cox.

    Having thoroughly reviewed and analyzed the the legal history and title documents produced by both the government and the defendants, Dr. Michael Coffman and myself prepared an analysis document for the Court which I also submitted as a sworn Declaration. That declaration was submitted by defendant Ammon Bundy's attorney Marcus Mumford along with a motion to dismiss the charges based on a lack of federal jurisdiction.

    In a voir dire hearing prior to trial I stated that there were serious questions of federal ownership of the land and improvements at the location where the protest occurred. In the same hearing I was shocked to find out that at least some of the legal counsel in the room were unaware of Title 18 USC 1855 (which would have exonerated the Hammonds in the first place).

    As to the federal employees actions toward the local ranch owners since approximately 1984 it turns out the Bundy's suspicion of fraud and illegal activities was absolutely correct. All the land acquired in the area around the lake (including the headquarters) was purchased under a Depression/Dustbowl era statute specifically intended to purchase abandoned or unproductive farms and then "resettle" that land in large enough "units" capable of supporting a family.

    Congress actually ordered and required the land where the headquarters is situated (including the buildings) to be liquidated and disposed of in 1946 (60 Stat 1065). It was disposed of to local ranchers who used it for grazing and forage crops for nearly 40 years until the local BLM and USFWS employees began a systematic elimination of the ranchers through fraud and abuse.

    It is shocking to the conscience that a Federal Judge is actually suppressing evidence of these crimes and in effect aiding and abetting after the fact.

    I've been an expert witness in 4 different Fed District courts, the US Court of Fed Claims, and the IBLA and I've never seen such an incredible effort to suppress exculpatory evidence by a judge. Truly mind boggling.





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    Shari Dovale Redoubt News "Judge Anna Brown Drops Her Mask"

    http://redoubtnews.com/2016/10/04/ju...wn-drops-mask/

    The judge sustained Chris Briels' testimony when no one objected.Judge Anna Brown Drops Her Mask


    By Shari Dovale

    The Malheur Protest Trial has been going well for the defense, as the witnesses all confirm the transparent and safe atmosphere the protesters encouraged. This must be angering the Judge because she took a decided twist in her handling of the trial today.

    Jeff Banta testified last week about how he arrived at the Refuge on January 25th, just one day before LaVoy Finicum was murdered at an illegal Deadman’s roadblock orchestrated by the FBI and Oregon State Police (OSP). His testimony included discussion of a video he had seen online that prompted him to get involved.
    The video was made by John Witzel of French Glen, Oregon. The video shows the ‘Miller Homestead Fire’ of 2012 in which the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) started multiple blazes that caused damage to property and livestock.
    Here is the video

    https: //youtu.be/BcpzhOZq1JQ



    After allowing the prosecution leeway in their video selection, including watching several people target practice, the video that was so compelling to Jeff Banta was not to be allowed. Judge Brown decided that this video would be too confusing for the jury. She allowed Witzel to come in and describe a few parts of his video, but that was all.


    The defense asked to play a video of Senator Harry Reid calling the Bunkerville Patriots “Domestic Terrorists”. Judge Brown told the defense that Ammon Bundy can say what he wants, but we don’t need videos. So, this one was out as well.


    Another issue at hand today had Judge Brown refusing to deal with the issue of FBI Agent Ronnie Walker sitting in the courtroom from day 1 even though he was on the prosecution witness list. She blamed that problem on the attorneys and refused to admit that the buck stops with her. She is completely responsible for this breach, and I certainly hope at least one defense attorney files for a mistrial based on this blatant favoritism.


    Judge Brown is well known to be favoring the prosecution, but has completely ripped off her mask and stopped pretending to be fair in this trial. She has threatened the defense if they bring up the truth of the FBI lying and covering up their part in the murder of LaVoy Finicum. She has not allowed crucial evidence, but has allowed the prosecution it’s grandstanding.



    Marcus Mumford put forth a very good argument on this subject today when Brown decided to change some jury instructions out of the blue. She said that the defense was misusing the word ‘terrorist’ when it came to discussion of the Hammonds being prosecuted under the Anti-terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996. “The defendants are using the term improperly,” she stated.


    When Mumford challenged her need to change the jury instructions, he states that the “court is taking sides against the defense.” She completely ignored his argument and did not even bother to address it.

    This fit with the rest of the day and how many objections the prosecution could jump up and make. She sustained nearly all of them. However, she was so wrapped up in helping the prosecution that at one point she even sustained an objection that was not made.


    During the questioning of Chris Briels, Brown burst out and said “Objection Sustained!” When she realized that no one had made an objection, she then said, “Oh, there was no objection, but I am going to sustain it anyway. I am not going to let the witness speculate.”


    This is what the defendants are dealing with. The public audience is on to her as well, as she has noticed. She has threatened the public in the gallery with expulsion for making any noise whatsoever, even turning a page in a notebook. If she hears a pen click or a page turn she will have everyone removed.


    The stress of this trial could be proving to be too much for Judge Brown. I think she needs a vacation. I know I do.
     
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    Be they right or wrong, I still say they were rather naive to have thought it wouldn't eventually come to this.
     
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    Yep, until something is done then nothing will be done. Yeah my paper had written duly convicted of the crime of contempt only there was no trial at all, damm.

    I'll tell you how easy it is to mess with a jailers head. When the called me mister I responded with "title goes with corporation and this human is not part of your corporation." Yep, my shit got dropped but they dint mess with me. Sure they, them, those and the others just never even looked at me other than to ask my name.

    Yep did four and then 27 non gay days......for you bits that would be 27 straight if your having complications comprehending it.
     
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    One thing them Bundy' s need to understand is this.

    Oregon is the land where you cannot prosecute yourself for being the victim. I know it seems strangely that saying bit when one analyzes it, it makes perfect sense.
     
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    https ://youtu.be/Y5iufAN1jJ8



    Request for Intervention from Nye County Sheriff | Party of the Western Republic
    Published on Oct 12, 2016
    Eric Parker, on behalf of himself and 12 others, requests that Nye County Sheriff Sharon Wehrly meet with political prisoners to both review protected discovery evidence and to place these prisoners in local protective custody while attorneys move to motion to have charges dropped based on evidence that has been uncovered in review of discovery.

    Parker believes that discovery evidence from dash and body cameras will exonerate them of the charges for which they are presently detained via stark contradiction of the narrative set forth by the Department of Justice and the U.S. Attorneys.
     
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    Martyrs.

    To easily taken and to soon forgotten.
     
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    Yeah agreed. But they took the paint and painted themselves into a corner even if they had right to paint in that room.
     
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    It would never have happened in Nye County. BLM would have been shut down in short order, and LaVoy would still be with us.

    But the Bundy's are a loooong way from Nye County now.

    They walked into fed.gov jurisdiction within a county and state which has proven to be complicit, by way of funding, with fed.gov.

    Just another of millions of reasons to repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments.
     
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    Let us just start on opting out of the 14th.....Oh my bad that is a victim thing....case by case...
     
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    Well they did NOT walk into Federal Jurisdiction, for starters. The Feds have NO jurisdiction over the land of Malheur reserve, in that they bought the land much the same as you or I would buy land. The Jurisdiction remained with The State of Oregon. The Federal Courts are trying their damnedest to ignore jurisdiction challenges, even though the law says they have to first establish jurisdiction once it is challenged.

    They are making up the law as they go along.

    Eisenhower had a federal commission study federal land status and it shows the same.

    the judge and prosecutors have all stepped out of their federal office by usurping jurisdiction where it doesn't exist. They could/should be subject to civil lawsuits, and criminal prosecution as well, but as Dr. Trowbridge points out they will immediately remove the case to the federal court system where their buddies protect them.

    Angus McIntosh

    20 hrs ·
    I was subpoenaed to testify in the Malheur Protest trial by one of the defendants, Shawna Cox.

    Having thoroughly reviewed and analyzed the the legal history and title documents produced by both the government and the defendants, Dr. Michael Coffman and myself prepared an analysis document for the Court which I also submitted as a sworn Declaration. That declaration was submitted by defendant Ammon Bundy's attorney Marcus Mumford along with a motion to dismiss the charges based on a lack of federal jurisdiction.

    In a voir dire hearing prior to trial I stated that there were serious questions of federal ownership of the land and improvements at the location where the protest occurred. In the same hearing I was shocked to find out that at least some of the legal counsel in the room were unaware of Title 18 USC 1855 (which would have exonerated the Hammonds in the first place).

    As to the federal employees actions toward the local ranch owners since approximately 1984 it turns out the Bundy's suspicion of fraud and illegal activities was absolutely correct. All the land acquired in the area around the lake (including the headquarters) was purchased under a Depression/Dustbowl era statute specifically intended to purchase abandoned or unproductive farms and then "resettle" that land in large enough "units" capable of supporting a family.

    Congress actually ordered and required the land where the headquarters is situated (including the buildings) to be liquidated and disposed of in 1946 (60 Stat 1065). It was disposed of to local ranchers who used it for grazing and forage crops for nearly 40 years until the local BLM and USFWS employees began a systematic elimination of the ranchers through fraud and abuse.

    It is shocking to the conscience that a Federal Judge is actually suppressing evidence of these crimes and in effect aiding and abetting after the fact.

    I've been an expert witness in 4 different Fed District courts, the US Court of Fed Claims, and the IBLA and I've never seen such an incredible effort to suppress exculpatory evidence by a judge. Truly mind boggling.
     
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    Now that there is funny....I've never seen....just funny.

    Look them boys are not going to get an acquittal, just not going to happen. But just like a traffic citation they are going to win on appeal. So they have to make record and have that runneded...?... run over by the prosecutor and the judge. Though there is the jurors or the trier' of fact.....Now and you are going to love this, now here in the bounds of Oregon a jury verdict stands. It's like end of story so it is going to be interesting if or how this goes.


    Say the jury aquits decision final, say they stand on guilty then final. Yet there was something about a judge throwing it all out but the wording I
    can't remember and I dint understand it when I did read it.....

    Well I left my printed copy of the general law that operates inside the bounds of Oregon inside the columbia county jail because that jail does not operate with one on hand.... So yeah institutional don't seem to matter in this land.....corporational revised statutes? Why those of books were new and un cracked.
     
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    Edit......institutional.....ment co institutioonal.....this....ok think me b screwed.....constitution.....
     
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    Confidential Informants in the Malheur Protest Trial
    by Shari Dovale
    Marcus Mumford argued this week that the prosecution should reveal the names of the 15 Confidential Human Sources (CHS) used by the FBI in the Malheur Protest Trial.

    The court contends that there is an initial privilege for the government to withhold identities. However, this contradicts the basic Constitutional right of the defendants to face their accusers.

    There are 15 CHS, or confidential informants, and 129 reports from these sources that are in question. The defense received heavily redacted copies of the reports with numbers assigned to each informant and one report being completely blocked out.

    Two of the informants have already been named.Mark McConnell was named by Oregon State Police Trooper Jeremiah Beckett during his testimony of the illegal traffic stop that lead to the murder of LaVoy Finicum on January 26th. Terri Linnell, also known as ‘Momma Bear’ at the Malheur Refuge, testified for the defense last week.

    It is a concern that the informants actually coerced defendants into committing offenses, and may have taken part in what the government is calling a conspiracy. The court has stated that, “By definition, you cannot be a member of the conspiracy if you are a Confidential Informant.” However, Confidential Informants cannot knowingly break the law.

    Therefore, with so many informants on the payroll in this case, the defendants should have the opportunity to explore if any of the informants were in a position to take part in this conspiracy.

    Not only has there been evidence admitted in this trial that cannot be positively identified as belonging to the defendants, like many of the guns, there have been statements made by the government in which they admit the informants took part in leadership and/or organizational meetings. This puts some major constitutional violations in play.

    “Government cannot create the problem and then deny me a solution,” Mumford said.

    Added to the problem is that Ryan Bundy filed a motion over a month ago that requested this very information. Judge Anna Brown denied that motion, and only now is explaining to him that he (basically) filed it incorrectly. Ryan is representing himself in this trial.

    The defendants are looking to have the names of the informants, as well as the information they relayed and the amounts they were paid, turned over to the defense before the case is completed, expected this week.
     
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    Filed it incorrectly? It is called discovery, discovery can only be incorrectly asked if one just does not do it. IF discovery is asked it must be answered, discovery cannot be incorrectly asked. Sure if I ask and do not stipulate a few things then those can be left out but denied because incorrectly filed?

    Bullshit, just fresh layed cow pies. This administrative federal law judge just admitted bias. It would have been more appropriate if she would have acknowledged that there was compliance but certain things were not asked, but she didn't do that.....she specifically said "incorrectly filed." So I guess she is not listing because some one incorrectly spoke words in a jumbled order? It was up to her to ask in a return answer like "WTF do you want, again?"

    She had to send him an answer to this miss filed discovery just so he could fix it and ask properly because to not do so shows barroty as in "you are not one of our club so I need not answer." To do that is justice denyied.
     
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    The United States INC. injustice system strikes again.

    https ://youtu.be/iwxMDUbsM8s


    Bundy Trial John Killman Informant Testifies Judge Brown Says No to Identifying Others
    Published on Oct 17, 2016
    Lorie Kramer
    John Lamb and Kelli Stewart both give us morning updates regarding US Government vs. Bundy et all, in Portland, OR.

    The Defense continued to press for identification of the remaining 13 not identified informants. One of the was identified today and testified Know as John Killman on Facebook, Favio Minooggio. He testified that he was asked to oversee the firing range and gave training in firearms safety and proficient use.

    Kelli makes a good point that the informant, not the occupiers, was the person "overseeing" the firing range.

    Judge Brown also had a closed chambers session with the appointed public defender given to Minooggio before his testimony.

    It is looking like the Defense will rest today. I'll post the afternoon update when it's available.
    Go to Kelli's Facebook page for her live streams and some additional posts regarding "John Killman"https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...





     
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    If you no longer have the right to face your accusers, then you no longer have a Bill of Rights.

    When are people going to wake up and realize that we live in a state of martial law and that ALL the courts are rigged in favor of BAR members and those who have the money to pay the system.

    Institutionalized corruption is the order of the day.
     
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    You know Trenton Steve was born ----2 day @ 12:29pm @ 7lb 10 0zest

    So fuck it.....
     
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    https ://youtu.be/wKZzIs5F09w


    Is it Time to Box up the American Flag and Rip up the US Constitution? Kelli Stewart


    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...love-on-trial-in-portland-oregon-3427474.html

    Lorie Kramer

    Today’s coverage of the case against We the People, otherwise commonly known as The Bundy Trial, continues. Kelli Stewart gives a quick lunch update, followed by the same from John Lamb. Then, the after court update. No court tomorrow so John said he will do a noon live stream to catch up details from today’s session then.

    Closing arguments continued today given by Ryan Bundy; TIffany Harris for Shawna Cox; Per C. Olson for David Fry; Robert Salisbury for Jeff Banta; Matt Schindler for Ken Medenbach; Lisa Maxfield for Neil Wampler.

    Maxine Bernstein tweeted one of Ryan Bundy’s comments to the jury, “At some point the people have to insist the govt. is not our master , they are our servants.” As Maxine’s tweet confirms, Judge Anna Brown ONCE AGAIN forbade Ryan Bundy from quoting from the US Constitution. (See what those gold fringed flags really mean, folks?) “Judge sustained 2 objections, preventing Ryan B from reciting sections of the US Constitution to jurors.”

    Ryan also said he found it ironic that the government that didn’t respond to their “redress of grievance” is now charging them with preventing federal officials from completing their duties. Ryan Bundy said it makes sense the government would want to put down the occupation because “it’s a threat to their power.” Despite being shot at numerous times, despite being shot myself, I still did not return fire,” Ryan Bundy said. “Only one side – the government – conspired to use violence.”, Ryan Bundy said.

    Shawna Cox was not a leader as much as an administrative volunteer, stated her lawyer TIffany Harris. “It’s the government that picks and chooses who they will prosecute and on what charges.” Also that the refuge is a public place, the staff are public employees. Seated at their desks is a symbolic act.

    Ken Medenbach’s lawyer, Matt Schindler, told the jurors that Medenbach has been protesting federal control of public land since Ammon Bundy was in high school, and David Fry was in diapers. Then, Schindler asked the jurors, “What more perfect place to stage a protest than a completely closed and empty refuge in the middle of nowhere? What are they going to do stand in a cow pasture? … the government’s lack of enforcement action reinforced the defendants’ beliefs that what they were doing was legitimate. ” It was also stated that Sheriff Ward shaking Ammon Bundy’s hand on January 7th was a photo op for Ward. Matt Schindler asked the jury, “If this was an armed criminal conspiracy why was Ammon Bundy allowed to go home, get a haircut in Burns and eat Chinese food?” “I just sat through five weeks of a trial about threatening federal employees without hearing a single threat,” Schindler said.

    Per C. Olson, attorney for David Fry said the government charge against his client is almost as ‘improbable’ as how the Oregon standoff ended. He stated that David’s conspiracy charge “stretches reality.”

    Jeff Banta, one of the final four, was said to be innocent because he hadn’t even met any of the defendants before January 25. Salisbury said, “Before LaVoy Finicum was killed, it was an occupation. After his death, it should have been called survival“ Evidence presented by the government against Jeff Banta contained Jeff’s attending the firearms “training” informant “Fabulous Fabio” conducted as part of his 3 day tour (sorry, couldn’t help it) at the refuge. Pictures of the firing range were used as photographic evidence by the Feds against Jeff Banta. So here’s where it gets shady as far as informants, or entrappers, as far as I’m concerned. I appreciate how Salisbury asked the jury, “Why didn’t the government tell the truth about Fabulous Fabio?” Indeed. There were more informants than defendants in this case.

    Defense lawyer Lisa Maxfield said her client was the assistant cook at the refuge but pointed out that the lead cook was never charged. Maxfield said Neil Wampler never had a gun, didn’t destroy property or enter into any agreement to threaten employees; and that he was “being prosecuted because he has a big mouth.” She then pointed to a photo of Kevin Rhodes with an assault rifle on the road leading to refuge and said, “… but, he was never charged.”

    And now for the Prosecution. AUSA Craig Gabriel gave the Prosecution’s rebuttal. He said many words, some of them possibly true. I’m just going to fair use Maxine’s tweets on this one and let the court observers fill in the rest. Mr. Gabriel - ‘this was not a redress, this was retaliation for what refuge workers & BLM had done to the Hammonds’, ‘This was a dangerous & armed standoff,’…’you saw the defiance,’ referring to Finicum’s traffic stop. Gabriel said case is not about the FBI or informants but about the defendants who relied on their armed guards to stay, and live on refuge. Conspiracy can have many objects , even legal ones but 1 was illegal to prevent USFWS OR BLM from coming to work. Adverse possession is not a defense to the crime, ‘it’s an admission to the crime.’ Gabriel said David Fry , at refuge from 1/8 to 2/11, was on video rifling thru artifacts w/ Finicum at refuge. …’by living there , by working there,’ he intended to prevent fed employees from returning. Once jurors find there was a conspiracy, statements of 1 impacts all others -’it’s as if they said it themselves.’ Gabriel said FBI wasn’t going to go up to heavily guarded refuge gate and ask the occupiers to go home. ‘The FBI was trying to avoid another Bunkerville.’ Even their hero, Sheriff Mack, thought this was a ‘misguided ‘ effort. Gabriel also said it was impractical for the defendants to suggest that the FBI just needed to show up and and ask them to leave.”

    Kelli Stewart posted, “Court is adjourned. The jurors begin deliberation in the morning. We do not return until they have a verdict. They could have a verdict by the end of the day tommorrow but its not likely. They will not meet Friday so Monday will be the next chance. Gabrial dis closing rebuttal. He was aggressive and annoyed and agitated and pulled out all the stops. Pray.”

    Judge Brown thanked jurors: ‘Your work is noted. It’s appreciated and it’s necessary…It’s extraordinarily important what you’ve done.’

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    Matt Schindler, attorney for Ken Medenbach.
    Morgan Philpot, assisting in Ammon Bundy’s defense, posted this comment, “I’ve not yet commented about the trial that I am now engaged in as Defense Counsel for Ammon Bundy but I needed to post a paraphrase from Attorney Matt Schindler’s closing argument for Kenneth W Medenbach.
    “This conspiracy case is different than those I’ve been in before. In those previous cases there has not been a constitutional dimension. I’ve never stood before a jury and mentioned the Constitution or Declaration of Independence, no one had to consider the 2nd Amendment. This case is different. There’s something that unifies all of those other people in those other cases; self-interest. For the life of me I cannot figure out the self-interest that was served by any of these defendants from serving in this protest; the protest against the death of rural America. This case is different.”
    Indeed. It’s called love.
    So there you go, listen to the reports from the real court observers. Court resumes tomorrow for the jurors who have been instructed to begin deliberation.

    And now, we wait…
     
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    Well there is a simple reason they, them, those and the others will not let the Constitution of America be quoted and I will use Oregon Revised Statutes to illustrate. You must keep in mind though the question of "What are them there STATUTES?"

    Now in my defence you are going to have to take my word for this acronym. CCP, now ccp is the freaks that put together the ORS. I had the name this morning but dint write it down but the got together and brought all these statutes to the legislature to be passed into law. And, as of today they rewrite, strike, and generally run amuck bringing new and improved statutes before the legislature to fix, adjust and such said laws. So get this folks the Oregon Revised Statutes are private law. They are the legislature's private law passed unto us. Yeah, that Oregon Constitution why it don't mean a thing. United States Code is the same.

    So how do I know?

    As most of you know I just did 31 on a 30, I guess the xtra day was to get back on my feet. Charge? Why contempt of court of course. And, all them days and today I stand duly convicted of the crime of contempt of court. Though there be a big problem, problem is there aren't no trial, that and I never signatured away my jury trial. And, of course all the paper work is quite fancy and legal; of course all done in accordance with those Oregon Revised Statutes. Big problem is this Oregon Constitution.

    Now this Oregon Constitution has two mentions of "General law" in it, oh the cleft in the rock. "GENERAL LAW" by definition of Blacks sixth edition means the [genus] of law, not the generalization of like things but what other law is extrapolated from. There has to be a root before there can be a tree and be for a root there must be a seed.

    So by quoting the or a constitution means nothing because USC as well as Oregon Revised Statutes are different things from one another and that is what they are charged with; statutes and not the Constitution/s. One has to go back through the history of a statute and show that it is from the poisoned tree then it can be fixed by them the jury/trier of fact by an acquittal.

    Remember the jury has already opinions that they grew up with, there is nothing that can be done about that as it is human nature. And, I bet one of the jury instructions will be that it is not the United States Constitution that they need consider in determining what is going to be called guilt or inasence. (Did I spell that right? Oh well) They will be told (because the judge instructs the jury,) they will be told that only STATUTES apply, the same statutes apply to the boys as applies to the jury.

    Now if may digressfully oblivicate here: the oregon constitution says what it says about trials and jury's it is the law within the bounds of Oregon and no federal law will trump it and also within this Oregon Constitution is a thing called article eleven section nine. Simply stated no municipality is to give aid to a corporation. This corporatism court is in Multnomah County so....the....people....who...are....the....men....of....equal....right are using county property and good faith to give aid to not only a corporation but a foreign corporation as opposed to Multnomah being a domestic corporation. Now this is all poops and darts because even the Federal Judges must have permission from the STATE of OREGON to practice law within its borders. This means the Oregon Constitution applies to these proceedings And, and Oregon has General Law written right into it, the Constitution of Oregon that is. Big problem is that even the Federal Judges are incorporated into the STATE of OREGON and are a part of it........talk about a conflicting can of worms or interest.

    Oh and me? I about have my particulars lined up and am getting ready to move on what I hope will be a successful endeavor.

    And, remember when in Rome do as the Romans do: translation Spanish, French, Germany and such are full of Catholics but each one of those countries has its own laws. So quoting Catholic law is meaningless.
     
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    Oregon Standoff Trial - Week 6 Recap
     
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    h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_GPEG5ganM


    The Bundy Story, Part 1 of 3, A Government Gone Rogue

    Published on Dec 6, 2016
    This is the story of the development of the Bundy Ranch in Clark County, Nevada. It is also explains the government suppression of the Bundy Ranch. It explains the story behind the Bundy Standoff of April 2014. It explains how the US federal government is pushing ranchers out of business. It explains the general suppression by the federal government.


    h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IelHRjgwhIc


    The Bundy Story, Part 2 of 3, Liberty's Sacrifice

    Published on Dec 7, 2016
    Part Two explains Ammon's intentions and his role of standing up for the Hammond family in Harney County, Oregon. He explains that he wrote a redress of grievances, in accord with the 1st Amendment, on behalf of the Hammonds, sent it to government officials. The FBI told those officials to ignore it. That was the catalyst for the standoff and occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in January 2016.



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    The Bundy Story, Part 3 of 3, United

    Published on Dec 9, 2016
    Ammon explains that the founding fathers' intention was to limit federal power with the Constitution, especially power over land and resources. Federal overreach allows federal agencies to harvest the land and resources for themselves, leaving fewer and fewer resources for the people.

    He makes the point that everything we utilize in our lives - food, clothing, housing, etc - all comes from the resources in the Earth. Ammon refers to Article I, Sec 8, Clause 17, which is supposed to limit the land the federal government may control.

    Ammon also emphasizes that the Dept of Justice, with over 7,000 attorneys, is an agency of the Executive branch of the government, not the Judicial branch. It has an unlimited budget and resources to prosecute individuals.
     
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    Maxine Bernstein - Oregonian on Prosecutors seek to silence Gary Hunt

    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...fornia_ma.html


    [​IMG]By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
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    on January 07, 2017 at 9:30 AM, updated January 07, 2017 at 3:17 PM


    Prosecutors want California man to remove blog posts on FBI informants in refuge occupation case

    As a second trial looms in the takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, federal prosecutors are perturbed that a California man associated with a network of militia groups obtained FBI reports on its confidential sources and has written about them in an online blog.

    Prosecutors on Friday asked a judge to order Gary Hunt to immediately remove all material about the confidential sources from his website and prevent him from continuing to share the sensitive information.
    The presence of nine informants on the eastern Oregon refuge during the 41-day occupation last winter as well as six other informants who worked on the case for the FBI was revealed during testimony during the first trial of occupation leaders.

    Hunt, according to prosecutors, apparently got hold of the FBI reports on the informants that prosecutors gave to defense attorneys as part of their sharing of discovery evidence before trial. The court ordered the reports not be shared with others. Occupation leader Ammon Bundy and six others were acquitted of conspiracy and other charges after a five-week trial that ended Oct. 27.

    "Public dissemination of the material produced under this Court's Protective Order could threaten ongoing investigations and the safety of government confidential human sources, informants or others," wrote Assistant U.S. Attorney Pamala Holsinger.

    Hunt said that an FBI agent contacted him Thursday, handing him a cease-and-desist order signed by Holsinger, chief of the criminal division in the Oregon U.S. Attorney's Office.

    FBI Special Agent Matthew Catalano reached Hunt by phone and requested a meeting. They met at a restaurant near Hunt's home after the agent assured Hunt he didn't have a warrant for his arrest, according to a court filing.

    Hunt said the agent asked where he got the documents, wanted him to remove his blog posts and hand over the reports he had.

    Hunt, who wasn't charged in the occupation, said the government doesn't have the authority to control his work because the court's protective order doesn't apply to him. The order restricted defendants in the case and their attorneys or defense staff from disseminating the material.

    But prosecutors contend Hunt is "illegally in possession of protected sensitive discovery materials in this case" and not authorized to distribute them, according to their motion.

    Hunt didn't comply with the cease-and-desist order within 24 hours, so prosecutors on Friday filed a request for the court to order his compliance.

    "I don't think it has merit," Hunt said.

    Hunt, 70, was a member of the advisory board for Operation Mutual Defense, a network of militias and supporters founded by Ryan Payne, one of the refuge occupation's organizers. The board was involved in early talks on how to help Harney County ranchers Dwight Hammond Jr. and son Steven Hammond, who were scheduled to return to federal prison on Jan. 4, 2016, for setting fire to public land. Bundy frequently cited protest over the Hammonds' treatment by the federal government as one of the reasons for seizing the refuge on Jan2.

    The advisory board ultimately voted not to support any action in Burns without the Hammond family's invitation. But Hunt ended up visiting the refuge during the takeover. He went to Burns on Jan. 24, checked into the Silver Spur Motel and drove out to the refuge. On the evening of Jan. 26 after state police shot and killed occupation spokesman Robert "LaVoy" Finicum at a roadblock, Hunt put out a call for supporters to go to the refuge, but retracted it by the next day, he said.

    Hunt, who lives in Northern California, has written stories under the heading "Burns Chronicles'' on his Outpost of Freedom website.

    Hunt quotes from FBI reports on the agency's 15 informants during the occupation. The 130 reports, spanning 246 pages, were subject to a protective order, and each page contains the printed words, "Dissemination limited by court order,'' FBI agent Ronnie Walker wrote in an affidavit attached to the prosecutors' court filing.

    The names of the confidential sources in the FBI reports shared with defense lawyers were redacted.
    In one blog post, Hunt surmised that a fellow member of the Operation Mutual Defense's advisory board was an informant who provided the FBI details from the board meetings and access to the board's electronic folders containing various documents, Walker wrote in the affidavit.

    Hunt said he has written about the informants because he believes that "every defendant has a right to meet his accusers'' to prepare their defense. He expects his blog posts might help the second round of defendants charged in the refuge takeover, who are set to go to trial on Feb. 14.

    "If the government can get into my records, email and drop box accounts, why can't we look at their records?'' he said.

    Hunt has not posted on his blog the FBI records, but has quoted excerpts from them.

    In another blog post called, "Informants, What To Do About Them?'' Hunt wrote, "The matter of informants, and the government's efforts to protect the names of those who have snuck into our midst is a denial of justice and to some degree, the Sixth Amendment right "to be confronted with the witnesses against him."
    Walker argued in the affidavit that the identification of informants could put them at risk, noting that some defendants and other people associated with the refuge occupation "have advocated for violence against federal employees, law enforcement, and and/or informants."

    Walker cited comments from an unidentified person caught on a video found on defendant Jason Patrick's cellphone. They came during a group meeting at the refuge after Ammon Bundy's arrest. The person said to the group, " (Let's) regroup, get in, go find out who works for the Feds and start executing them. Execute them, their families, everyone. ... Make it a statement. If you work for those crooked (expletive) you're going to die."

    U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown, who presided over the initial Bundy trial and also is handlng the second trial in February, is expected to rule on the prosecutors' motion. Hunt said Friday he has not obtained a lawyer.

    One positive development that may come of this, Hunt said, is that his personal standoff with the FBI may put to rest some speculation that Hunt was an informant for the feds.

    -- Maxine Bernstein
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    Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
    Gary Hunt continues to expose the scum who serve the feds as confidential informants - Outpost of Freedom

    http://outpost-of-freedom.com/blog/?p=1880

    « Burns Chronicles No 48 – Robert “Rob” Seever (R.W. Seaver) #2


    Burns Chronicles No 49 – Thomas S. Dyman (Tom Dyman)

    December 22, 2016, 8:24 pm
    Burns Chronicles No 49
    Thomas S. Dyman (Tom Dyman)


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    Gary Hunt
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    December 22, 2016


    Thomas S. Dyman was considered for a Second Tier position in Operation Mutual Defense (OMD). The structure of OMD had three tiers. The First Tier is the Advisory Board. The Second Tier is those who could assist in research; webpage management, specialty skills, or other capabilities that would work with the Advisory Board. The Third Tier would be those recruited by the Second tier to assist them, though they would not be under the Advisory Board.

    Being recommended by Ryan Payne, he had to fill out an application. In the application, he admits that he had a criminal record and refers to a background check. OMD never received the background check.

    A search resulted in finding at least one criminal charge against Dyman. He was arrested in 2011 for having taken his children from his first wife, back in 1995. The children had become adults, and apparently the charges were dropped.

    Dyman now lives in Williston, North Dakota and has a contracting business, Dyman Construction, LLC.

    Dyman’s application was submitted to OMD on November 1, 2015, though the application is signed and dated on 10/29/16. We have to wonder what his intentions were in responding to Payne’s request, since his first report as an informant (CS) was dated November 3, 2015.

    That report was dated November 3, 2015 and began with a copy of an article on the Hammonds that had been posted on bundyranchblogspot. Then, he began reporting on Payne’s plans.xxxx Payne told multiple CHS’s that he and Ammon Bundy were meeting on the morning of 11/4/2015 and driving to Oregon to meet directly with the Hammonds. The purpose of the trip was to convince the Hammonds to take a stand against the federal government, and accept OMD and militia-related assistance in preventing their incarceration. Payne indicated he and Ammon Bundy were traveling largely at the insistence of Cliven Bundy, who has been pushing Payne to take additional militia-related actions like the one he led in Bunkerville in 2014. Payne and Ammon Bundy also plan on meeting with the local Sheriff in an attempt to convince him to support their resistance and aid in the effort. They may meet with other local officials, such as County Commissioners as well.

    Payne stated that he felt obligated to act in defense of the Hammonds even if they do not request OMD’s assistance. Payne compared the situation to preventing a suicidal man from killing himself. Payne has suggested that if the Hammonds refuse to make a stand at their ranch, OMD should lead a “dynamic action” against the facility receiving them (presumably a prison or U.S. Marshals Service facility) to make it impossible for the Hammonds to turn themselves in.

    It should be noted that OMD has recorded all of its Advisory Board meetings where the Hammond situation has been discussed. Payne xxxx and Ammon Bundy intend to record their meeting with the Hammonds, as well as an OMD meeting regarding the matter on Thursday November 5..The following day, November 4, he provided an additional report based upon his communications with Payne, though it is nearly identical to the first report. Does he know that he will be paid by the report, and that informing pays better than contracting?

    Ryan Payne contacted CHS xxxx to advise that he is traveling to Oregon with Ammon Bundy in an attempt to convince two ranchers to accept militia assistance to resist the federal government. Payne intends to meet Ammon Bundy on the morning of November 4 in southern Idaho and travel together to meet with a father and son by the last name of Hammond in Oregon. The Hammonds were recently sentenced to prison in a case involving the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), and Payne feels the criminal case against them is unconstitutional. He has talked to the father, who seems resigned to his fate, but Payne hopes he and Ammon can convince him to accept Operation Mutual Defense (OMD)’s assistance and fight the government. He and Ammon intend to tell the Hammonds that they will have militia forces in place to back down the government if they intend to fight.

    Payne claimed that Cliven Bundy has been pushing him to do some kind of militia-related action again soon, and has encouraged Ammon to travel with Payne to encourage the Hammonds to formally request militia assistance. Payne xxxx would be running around like crazy for a few days, and intended to meet with the local Sheriff in Oregon as well as the Hammonds.
    In the event the Hammonds fail to accept Payne’s offer of support, he still feels inclined to act to save them from incarceration. He intends to explore options to use militia force to make the Hammond’s self surrender to federal prison impossible. He feels he and OMD have an obligation to prevent their incarceration, and is committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to do so. Payne said that this was one of the most difficult decisions OMD was going to have to wrestle with,

    The next report was on November 12, 2015, and is obviously a report on a conversation he had with Payne.Payne and Hunt worked xxxx on OMD-related matters, as they prepared for the opening of the group’s website, and formal introduction of OMD to the public. The OMD website is being set up by a man who lives in Arizona or Nevada.

    Prior to visiting Hunt, Payne was in Oregon with Ammon Bundy, where they were trying to convince the father and son rancher by the last name of Hammond to resist arrest by the federal government. Payne believes the Hammonds are beaten down, and intend to surrender despite the militia’s offer of assistance. Payne and Ammon Bundy also met with the local sheriff in Oregon, and believe he would stand by and allow the militia to protect the Hammonds from the feds.

    So, it is clear that Payne’s whereabouts are being fed to the fed. Here is the November 25 report.
    As of November 25, 2015, Ryan Payne was in Montana, but was planning on traveling to Oregon on Monday, November 30. The Advisory Board for Operation Mutual Defense (OMD), has voted against declaring a formal action to protect the Hammond family in Oregon, but Payne is still committed personally to keeping the Hammonds out of prison. OMD board member Jon Ritzheimer has told Payne that he will also be traveling to Oregon to join him in the Hammond-related operation. Payne believes he has also received commitments from several other militia-related individuals to travel to Oregon to defend the Hammonds.
    Payne now believes the Sheriff in Oregon does not intend to support Payne in his effort to defend the Hammonds. Payne also claims the federal government has threatened the Hammonds to prevent them from associating with Payne or requesting militia help. Payne described himself as a sheep dog, who must defend the sheep (the Hammonds), even though they don’t know they require defending. Although Payne did not explicitly state his intentions, it was clear to CHS that Payne intends to use military-style force to prevent the federal government from arresting the Hammonds and taking them to prison. Payne did not say what he would do if the Hammonds traveled to voluntarily turn themselves in at a federal facility.

    Because the Hammonds have not given Payne or the militia permission to stage an operation on their property, Payne intends to camp out on the public land surrounding the Hammond property. Payne appears to have borrowed money from unknown sources to finance his operation in Oregon. He has indicated he will need to obtain employment after the New Year to pay some of this money back. Because of the Oregon operation, Payne no longer is planning on traveling to Arizona to participate in border related training with OMD in December.

    Payne is attempting to acquire Level IV body armor for his operation in Oregon, and wants a Montana militia associate, who is also a body armor supplier, to personally deliver this armor and other supplies to Oregon during the first or second weekend in December. Payne is contacting others who will be responding to Oregon to see if the would like to obtain new body armor from this supplier as well. xxxx CHS believes Payne will be responding to Oregon with his AR-style rifle, other firearms, and full load out of ammunition and magazines.

    The next report was made on December 14, 2015.On the morning of December 14, 2015, Ryan Payne and Jason Patrick were in Seattle on the way to the federal courthouse to attend Schuyler Barbeau’s detention hearing. They want to look the terrorists (meaning the FBI) in the eyes. Patrick expects he will be arrested, but Payne is under strict instructions not to get arrested, as he is supposed to be at a meeting in Harney County, Oregon, regarding the Hammond matter on the evening of December 15.

    Payne has been camping with Jason Patrick and others in Harney County near the Hammond Ranch. One of Payne’s teams had to pull out because they were not equipped for the winter conditions in Oregon; however, Payne believes others are on standby to respond quickly to the ranch if needed. He also believes they will be moving into a different facility soon, making winter camping unnecessary. Lack of funding is also a serious issue for the Hammond operation.

    Payne believes the crucial militia operation in Oregon will occur around Christmas. He is expecting supplies to arrive from Montana during that time frame, including body armor, firearms, ammunition, night vision, and gear. He also will be expecting more militia associates to start joining him in Oregon around that time.

    Despite the challenges presented by weather and lack of resources, Payne is confident that “the time has come,” meaning his much awaited conflict with the government will commence soon. He believes God is bringing this all together perfectly.

    Next, we have December 16On December 16, 2015, Payne contacted CHS to advise that the previous evening’s meeting in Harney County went very well. He was ecstatic, and repeatedly commented that God appeared to be bringing things together very nicely. Payne claims there were approximately 60 people at the meeting, and all were very supportive of the Hammonds. All but one of the people voted to form a Committee of Safety, and seven people were elected to be on that Committee.

    Payne seemed pleasantly surprised by the support he received from the people of Harney County, and is having to readjust what he thought would be solely a militia-based effort to protect the Hammonds. He xxxx that it is not necessary for supplies and additional people to be sent to immediately to Harney County xxxx but suggested everyone needed to be ready to respond quickly. He said the militia response would definitely be needed, but just not in the next two weeks.

    Payne is turning his efforts toward the Committee of Safety, and the local community rising up to protect the Hammonds on their own. Payne is optimistic that the townspeople may now be able to convince the Hammonds to take a stand against the government, and solicit the help of the militia.

    Payne xxxx still was not getting much support from the leaders of the Pacific Patriots Network (PPN), but had received several promises of support from individual PPN members.

    The following day, December 17, we have:On December 17, 2015, Ryan Payne called CHS to request CHS’s support and travel to Burns, Oregon, to provide security for Payne and the Committee of Safety (COS) which had recently been formed in Harney County. Payne indicated that the COS had met for the first time that day, and he had received reliable information that the federal government was planning on trying to arrest Payne and the members of the Committee of Safety within the next few days. Payne requested that CHS travel to Oregon with others to provide a ten-man security detail for Payne and the COS to prevent their arrest. Payne advised that he was also contacting xxxx militia associates, xxxx to ask for their assistance.

    Next, we have the first report after the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, on January 4, 2016. It appears that Dyman was involved in soliciting others to participate in the occupation.Randy Eaton now thinks that it is important to support Ryan Payne’s efforts in Oregon. Eaton was initially against seizure of the refuge building in Oregon, but now believes it is time to support Payne and his associates in Oregon against the feds. Nic Whiting, xxxx would like to go to Oregon to join Payne as well.

    Apparently, Dyman recalled an earlier request made by Payne and now includes that in his reporting.On December 17, 2015. Payne sent CHS a link to a website advertising a Element DBAL-D2 red Dot Aiming Laser with IR LED Illuminator Dark Earth. The features listed for this device indicate it can be placed on a 20 mm rail system, and is capable of Infrared illumination and Night Vision observation. In a text accompanying the link, Payne said, “Have you seen these? Get 10. Iol”
    On January 5, 2016, Payne learns that Dyman is not willing to travel to Burns. Apparently, as with Dennis Dickenson, Payne was led on thinking that Dyman was going to come when the time to act came.Payne indicated he understood he could not count on CHS, and would pursue some other avenues. Payne xxxx has been conducting operations for over three years, including the Bunkerville matter and what is going on in Oregon, and law enforcement has never messed with him.

    On January 11, 2016, Dyman repeats that he will not be going to Oregon. Apparently, Payne finally realized that Dyman was a man of words, not of actions.CHS told Ryan Payne CHS would not be coming to Oregon to provide supplies, ammunition, and support for Payne’s operation at the wildlife refuge. CHS told Payne CHS was concerned about a recent visit CHS had received from county law enforcement, and the FBI or other officials might attempt to hamper CHS’s travel to Oregon. Payne indicated he understood that he could not count on CHS, and would pursue some other avenues. From several prior conversations, CHS knows that Payne believed CHS might be able to supply body armor, night vision, armor piercing ammunition, rifles, and other equipment. Payne told CHS he has been conducting operations for over three years, including the Bunkerville matter and what is going on in Oregon, and law enforcement has never messed with him. Payne angrily ended the exchange. CHS understood from Payne’s comments that their relationship is now severed.
    Now, to provide a little more background, when I wrote Dennis Dickenson (Dennis Jones, you see that FBI Special Agent Mark D. Seyler is listed on a report. That report is on FBI Form FD-1057. I have done some research and found that the 1057 form is the results from a search of the government database, based on keyword search criteria. It appears that Ryan Payne was probably the search request.
    11/04/2015
    Drafted By: Mark D. Seyler
    Case ID: xxxx
    Collected From: xxxx
    Receipt Given?: No
    Holding Office: SALT LAKE CITYDetails:Operation is a militia-related network founded by Ryan Payne and xxxx. xxxx Details concerning OMD’s current status and development can be found in the referenced EC # xxxx. In summary, Payne was the leader of OMD’s precursor organization Operation Mutual Aid, when he helped to instigate the militia response to the Bundy Ranch event in April 2014. He served as Militia Coordinator for the Bundy Family during the standoff against the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), and is seeking to instigate similar such standoffs against the government through OMD.

    The entire 1057 is 6 pages long and gives a detailed account of the workings, and information obtained by Dickenson, of the Operation Mutual Defense (OMD) Advisory Board. The 1023 forms for Dickenson and Dyman are the only two out of the total 15 reports that have this 1057 in them. This ties both parties to OMD, and both had submitted the required applications to OMD.There can be little doubt that these two were recruited to report on OMD, as well as any other information they could obtained from that association.

    Tom Dyman is CHS #9, and is an outside informant. NOTE: If anybody has a picture of Tom Dyman, I would appreciate being provided a copy so that we all know what this informant looks like. Share this:






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    • [​IMG]Arthur says:
      December 23, 2016 at 1:00 pm
      Gary,
      Are you going to publish these government forms?
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      • [​IMG]ghunt says:
        December 23, 2016 at 1:14 pm
        Absolutely not. First, there were conditions set by my source. Second, each document is clearly marked, “Dissemination Limited by Court Order”. Though I don’t see that I am bound by the Court Order, I have agreed not to disseminate them. Now, as to whether the source disseminated them, I think not. That is because of out agreement that I would only excerpt from hem, and that is all that I intend to do.
        There are many that question whether I am falsely representing what they say. That is their prerogative. All of us read things. When we are finished reading, we decide whether we believe them, or not.
        I stand behind what I have written, and I am willing to discuss them with the subjects, on Internet radio, if they prefer. However, exception of McConnell, none of even declared their innocence, at least t te best of my knowledge.
        I will state that all that I know from my investigation is not necessarily included in my articles. Perhaps, if they know that, it would explain their silence.
        I find myself, once again having to deal with my accusers, however, I don’t run from it — I take it head on.
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    Burns Chronicles No 50 – Informants – What to do About Them #2

    December 25, 2016, 7:07 pm

    Burns Chronicles No 50
    Informants – What to do About Them #2


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    Mark McConnell
    Merry Christmas, Mark
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    Merry Christmas, Mark McConnell


    The matter of informants, and the government’s efforts to protect the names of those who have snuck into our midst is a denial of justice and to some degree, the Sixth Amendment right “to be confronted with the witnesses against him.”

    Now, we can look at what the government wants us to believe. We can also look at what common sense dictates that the Framers of the Constitution meant. Just because a person doesn’t take the stand in court, when that person has provided information to the government, upon which the government builds its case, he has witnessed against the accused. The defendants, then, had every right to confront that “witness”, as he is privy to what he saw, what he heard, and what he said to the government. He is as much a part of the case against the defendant as the person who takes the stand, takes an oath, and testifies. Quite often, he is the justification for a search or arrest warrant to be issued, or a criminal indictment to be brought, before the court.

    However, when that ‘witness’ is hidden from the defendant, the defendant is denied information that may aid him in a proper and fair defense. In some cases, their testimony might provide exculpatory evidence, testimony that might prove his innocence, that would undermine the contrived case made by the government.

    With the recent trial of Ammon Bundy, et al, we can begin to put together a picture of the injustice and the dishonesty of the government’s pretext for hiding such “witnesses.”

    We will begin with a partial trial transcript of the trial on October 17, 2016:
    THE COURT:I would like to start first with Ms. Harris’s motion with respect to the identity of a witness. [Some of] the defendants have subpoenaed, it’s Docket No. 1443, And it is really a subset of the larger issue raised both by Ryan Bundy in previous filings and by Ammon Bundy in his motion to compel 1423. Before, I received Ms. Harris’ filing, which I only received this morning about 7:00 a.m. it showed up in my system, I had emailed to the parties my preliminary conclusions having reviewed, in camera, the unredacted reports related to the so-called CHSs confidential human sources, 15 different individuals, 112 reports, and I conveyed in that email to the parties that I have compared the redacted to the nonredacted reports and according to the applicable standard, did not find any basis to disclose the identity of those 15 confidential human sources. I observed to the parties that as I compared the redactions from the unredacted material, I really didn’t find any substantive significance. The redactions primarily looked to me as necessary to protect the identity of the informant, and so with respect to that general review, I conveyed to the parties my intention was to deny the motion generally.Then came in Ms. Harris’s motion on behalf of Ms. Cox with respect to a very particular one of those 15 confidential human sources, identified in her motion as number two, as to whom I have the redacted and unredacted materials. That was one person’s records I went through.

    The motion indicates that the defendants have found the actual CH#2 who was known to the — who went by an alias, according to this motion, of John Killman. K-I-L-L-M-A-N. And so the motion goes on to argue why it’s relevant, first of all, for the defendants to call this person whose alias is John Killman and to introduce evidence from his personal knowledge of observations he made at the refuge.

    And I presume defendants already know his true name in that they — Ms. Harris tells me in this filing that he’s been subpoenaed in his, is physically present, and needs to testify first thing because of other issues in his life.

    We can see that the identification of the informants is a primary concern of Judge Anna Brown.

    Next to speak is one of the Government attorneys..
    BARROW: Good morning, Your Honor, the government’s position is that the filing of ECF 1443 doesn’t change the analysis. If this whole issue of disclosure of informants had been filed in a timely manner, say in August, of this year, the government would have asserted the informant’s privilege and would have said we weren’t obligated to disclose the identity of any informants and would have, through that mechanism, tried to keep the defense from putting informants on the stand.

    What has happened now is that the defense believes that its identified an informant and believes that somehow that triggers some obligation for the government to confirm his status and his identity and we simply don’t think that that is the way the law works
    . We’re [intending] to preclude the defense from calling anyone. We don’t believe we have that ability, but requiring the government to somehow confirm defendants’ suspicions would similarly be a way around the Roviaro [decision] in the informant’s privilege.

    Mr. Barrow mentions the Roviaro decision with regard to “informant’s privilege”. So, it behooves us to know just where this privilege comes from and why.

    The Roviaro decision, Roviaro v. United States 353 U.S. 53 (1957), dealt with an informant, “John Doe”, who had purchased narcotics from Albert Roviaro. Roviaro then moved for a bill of particulars requesting, among other things, the name, address and occupation of “John Doe”. The Government objected on the ground that John Doe was an informer and that his identity was privileged. The motion was denied.

    Now, drug dealers are notorious for violence, even murder, to protect themselves. So, it is understandable that in those circumstances, the identification of the informant was protected, for his personal safety.

    However, Mr. Barrow gave away his hand, in the first paragraph of what he said, above, when he stated, on the record, that it “would have, through that mechanism, tried to keep the defense from putting informants on the stand.” Quite simply, he did not want the informants to testify. In fact, no informants, though paid, or at least compensated for expenses, by the government, were called, even though we know that there were 15 of them.

    Here are a couple of quotes from the Roviaro decision:
    The purpose of the privilege is the furtherance and protection of the public interest in effective law enforcement. The privilege recognizes the obligation of citizens to communicate their knowledge of the commission of crimes to law-enforcement officials and, by preserving their anonymity, encourages them to perform that obligation.

    Well, if a passing observer reports something amiss to the government, I can see that there might be a question of whether providing information about the informant would serve any useful information to the defense. But, this is not the type of informant we are addressing. This would be more along the lines of someone who was interviewed, though the form for that type of interview is the FBI form 302, where a report of a casual interview develops information. It is far different than the form 1023, which is titled “CHS Reporting Document”, and is based upon a contractual agreement, including expenses and compensation, legally making the informant a temporary agent of the government, however not required to identify themselves as such.

    Then, we have the Court telling us:We believe that no fixed rule with respect to disclosure is justifiable. The problem is one thatcalls for balancing the public interest in protecting the flow of information against theindividual’s right to prepare his defense. Whether a proper balance renders nondisclosure erroneous must depend on the particular circumstances of each case, taking into consideration the crime charged, the possible defenses, the possible significance of the informer’s testimony, and other relevant factors.

    Now, since two informants testified for the defense, how can it possibly be the determination of the prosecuting attorney as to whether the informant would serve as “the individual’s right to prepare his defense“, as was proven with regard to “the possible significance of the informer’s testimony.”

    On to the meat of the whole argument:
    Once an informant is known the drug traffickers are quick to retaliate. Dead men tell no tales. The old penalty of tongue removal, once visited upon the informer Larunda, has been found obsolete.

    Of course where enforcement of a nondisclosure policy deprives an accused of a fair trial it must either be relaxed or the prosecution must be foregone. The Government is fully aware of this dilemma and solves it every day by foregoing prosecutions in many cases where evidence essential to the defense would require disclosure. But this is not such a case.Here, then, is the distinction between selling drugs and waving the Constitution. The simple fact that the Second Amendment right was also exercised does not allow that right, the presence of firearms, to denigrate any other portion of the constitutionally protected rights.

    If the government cannot afford the right to a fair trial, which they did not do in the first Portland trial, then the subsequent prosecution of the remaining defendants “must be foregone.”

    There remain eight unidentified informants. If they are not disclosed, then the government would be in violation of the very Supreme Court decision (Roviaro) that they used to argue their right to not identify the informers.

    As far as the government and informants, it seems that Congress has trouble even finding out to what extent informants are used by the various investigative agencies of the government.

    In recent “House Oversight & Government Reform Committee hearing"
    (video 6:22), Rep. Stephen Lynch (D. Mass.) points out that the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) has 18,000 informants “out there”, spending $237 million last year. The FBI is not included in that figure, though Lynch suggests that the FBI budget is comparable to that of the DEA.

    Now, perhaps, there is justification for the DEA to both use and protect their informants, since they are dealing with people that have a high propensity for violence. At about 5:10, Thomas Blanton, George Washington University, makes the point that serious threat, or current investigation, are the only roles for the protection of informants.

    So, let’s look at the situation involving the events in Burns, Oregon, this past January and February. There is no threat, as Barrow suggests, and the investigation is over. So, that investigation is not current, but under the guise of risk to informants, the Judge upheld the government position.

    During the trial in Portland, on September 21, 2016, government prosecutor Gabriel intentionally elicited testimony from Oregon State Police Officer Beckert that exposed Mark McConnell as an informant for the FBI during the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. So, was there a concern for the safety of a government informant? The intentional exposure defies any consideration of concern for McConnell’s safety. So, apparently, Roviaro had no justification in being applied in McConnell’s case, why would it be of concern with regard to any other informant?

    During the course of the trial, two more informants came out of the cold. First was Terri Linnell, who contacted defense attorneys so that she could testify on behalf of the defendants. Then came Fabio Minoggio (aka John Killman), who was found by the diligence of the defendants and their attorney investigators.Since that time, not one of the informants has been subjected to any harm, though one has been subject to considerable verbal abuse on the Internet.Since the end of the trial, three additional informants have been exposed. They have not been subjected to death threats, or in any way subjected to any physical harm.

    On the contrary, we have one of the informants who has threatened one of the defendants. Deb Jordan has provided a thorough and documented explanation of this threat in her article, “Informant Mark McConnell Receives Surprise Christmas Gift From Activist Jon Ritzheimer“.

    However, briefly, this past October 11, Jon and some friends were at a restaurant. McConnell found out that Jon Ritzheimer was there, so he went to the restaurant with his girlfriend and threatened Jon, attempting to get him into a fight.

    Suffice it to say that those who wave the Constitution are no threat, at all. However, government informants do pose a threat, and should be exposed for what they are — spies upon the American people who are doing no more than exercising their rights — Something that should never be tolerated in this once great country of ours. List of informants exposed, to date, and associated articles:
    Burns Chronicles No 32 – Terri Linnell (Mama Bear)
    Burns Chronicles No 40 – Allen Varner – Wolf
    Burns Chronicles No 41 – Dennis Dickenson (Dennis Jones)
    Burns Chronicles No 42 – Fabio Minoggio (John Killman)
    Burns Chronicles No 43 – Terri Linnell (Mama Bear) #2
    Burns Chronicles No 44 – Mark McConnell
    Burns Chronicles No 45 – Mark McConnell #2
    Burns Chronicles No 47 – Robert “Rob” Seever
    BurnsbChronicles No 48 – Robert “Rob” Seever (R.W. Seaver) #2
    Burns Chronicles No 49 – Thomas S. Dyman (Tom Dyman)

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    Burns Chronicles No 51 – William “Will” Kullman (Night Hawk)

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    Burns Chronicles No 51
    William “Will” Kullman (Night Hawk)


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    Jon Ritzheimer had put out a call for more people to come to the Refuge, shortly after the occupation on January 2, 2016. Many people who supported the effort being made by Ammon Bundy and the others resent that message.On January 3, Will Kullman contacted Maureen Peltier (SSG Moe). Peltier was one of those who had passed the message on. His first contact with Peltier shows that he was from Lake Stevens, Washington and that he was Founder of “Kullman Combat Organization”. Some of the text messages indicate his desire to help:
    “I wanna come down to Oregon to help. What do I need to bring and when is the best time to come?”

    Is there an armed militia that is doing security like we did at Sugar Pine and Bundy? Just wondering if I should bring a weapon.

    He then stated that he “had a team ready to go…” And, then asked for a contact for when he got there. However, when he arrived in Burns, he was alone.

    He knew that Ritzheimer was a Marine, so he sent the message:
    “I will be there to help him. Tell him a fellow Marine is on his way to help him. Tell him I said “Semper Fi.”

    On January 6, as he entered Harney County, he relayed messages through Peltier, announcing his approaching the Refuge. At 8:33 PM, he was driving in fog about 16 miles out from the Refuge. Then, at 10:56 pm, he reported to Peltier that he had arrived and that he “just met up with Ryan.” (Not sure if it was Payne or Bundy, as both were present at the time.)

    “Semper fi”, short for “semper fidelis”, is the Marine Corps motto, Always faithful — that Marines will always be faithful to the Corps and other Marines. Both Ritzheimer and Kullman were Marines, though Kullman was more than willing to turn against his fellow Marine.

    January 7, the day after Kullman arrived, he texted:
    “You know there’s only maximum 40 of us here… Not as many as before. Get the word out. They are cutting power to the Refuge.”

    Peltier questioned his going public with that sort of information and told Kullman that such information should only come out from the leadership. Peltier was beginning to have questions about Kullman’s assertiveness and assuming the authority to speak for the Refuge..

    Then, on January 8, in an apparent effort to impress Peltier, he texts:
    “Actually, I was just made the team leader of the militia with Jon, so trust my intel when I give it to you.”

    Peltier, concerned about what role Kullman is playing, contacted Ritzheimer to explain what Kullman was doing. She indicates to Kullman that she has spoken with Ritzheimer and that he did not want any numbers to be given out. Kullman had been given a leadership position; he replaced Ryan Payne as head of one of the three militia units. The initial militia units were headed by Payne, Ritzheimer, and Varner, as explained in “Burns Chronicles No 40 – Allen Varner (Wolf)“.

    The next day, January 9, Kullman is again trying to butter up Peltier, probably realizing that she has concerns about him, texts:
    “At the point, with as much media that’s been here, everyone knows. You’re the only person that can get trusted and resourceful information out to the people. I’m sorry that I made you feel like a subordinate, but, the fact remains your ability to get the word out that we need help is impertinent (?) to the cause. I know we don’t know each other that well, but if Payne, Cooper, the Bundys and even Ritzheimer trust my judgment, maybe you could too, one day. Thanks for what you are doing. Out.”

    You can see that he is trying to get closer to Peltier by his praise and his claim that “Payne, Cooper, the Bundys and even Ritzheimer trust” his judgment“. Kullman ended up leaving the Refuge on January 12 or 13.

    Thus ended the communication between Kullman and Peltier, until January 26, after LaVoy Finicum was murdered, and all but two of the remaining members of the convoy had been arrested. There was confusion as to whether the Ryan that had been shot was Bundy or Payne. Until subsequent calls were made, and eventually it was established that it was Ryan Bundy, only Mark McConnell and Victoria Sharp knew for sure who it was. So, Kullman crowns his lies with a final effort to endear himself to Peltier, when he sends this message:
    “Just got off the phone with a person who was with the people that were arrested, and he was released. Told me what happened to everyone including Payne and LaVoy."

    It was Ryan Bundy, and McConnell knew that. Payne was put with McConnell, Ammon, and Booda, where they sat in the cold until the events down the road, where Ryan Bundy received a wound and LaVoy was killed.

    Peltier, however, had had enough of Kullman and refused to answer any texts after the 8th.

    Now, let’s venture into Kullman’s role as an informant and what information he provided to the FBI. This information is from the FBI form 1023, “CHS Reporting Documents”. CHS is Confidential Human Source”, or informant, or perhaps, spy. This, “xxxx”, indicates redactions within the paragraph. Those marked “PTM” by me are probably “Private Text Messages”, since time-stamps appear on the reports.

    January 7, 2016
    – PTM7: 27 AM: xxxx The whole refuge is under control. The federal worker cabins on sight are being used for shelter and housing for the militia. Hot water, electricity, and hot chow available. Numbers are minimal and most have received very little sleep. Weapons are not required for watch, but are not frowned upon either. They are trying not to make a scene by having them.

    2:26 PM: There is a large supply of free food and a lot of donations. CHS is on the inside with JON RITZHEIMER and RYAN PAYNE. CHS has been asked to be a body guard for the BUNDY’s. Right now, there is zero organization and they are in a defensive posture. There are one or two guys on guard. There is a front guard and a back gate guard. The guys also have zero experience as far as training and weapons. There are about 30-40 people and maybe 75% are combatants. Weapons are staying in vehicles. Most everyone is just carrying a pistol on them. Mostly 5.56, hand guns, and some 7.62 Ak-style rifles. There are some higher calibers, like a couple of .308’s and apparently a .300 Win Mag. There is consistent talks of taking up arms if LEO/FEDS come onto the refuge and they all seem pretty serious about it. They are going through the property and using what they can use to aid their stay.

    2:27 PM: Only a few folks have armor with no QRF, patrolling or legitimate security in place. There is a total complacency for security. These guys don’t have a clue what they are doing.

    January 8, 2016
    – PTM12:40 PM: There is an older guy, drives a 90’s model Suburban and dressed like a cowboy. He stated that he planned to go to where LEO were and give them a piece of his mind.

    1:20 PM: More gun fighters showed up. 8 or 9 of them with AR-15’s, pistols, but no kits yet observed. They are an organized group from southeast Oregon.

    2:35 PM: No eyes on, but confirmed through constituents that the Oregon III% and Idaho III% have deployed to the refuge. “Reinforcements” are inbound.

    2:43 PM: There is a guy LEO should look into. He is talking about how the way we deal with the problem is to ambush officials and “blow their heads off with shotguns and solve the problem no evidence.” His name is ROBERT HART and he is in his mid-50’s. He’s a lunatic. CHS noted he/she would attempt to get license plate. He drives a green two-door Suburban. He is not associated with these guys and they have made numerous complaints about him already.

    January 9, 2016
    PTM11:39 AM: About 20 vehicles with 50+ men from Idaho and Oregon III% and OATH KEEPERS just showed up. Add about another 100 firearms to my original count. ANDREW BERDOTHA is here now.

    2:42 PM: BERDOTHA and that huge convoy of III% left. They are apparently staying in the area, but not at the refuge. BERDOTHA admitted they had been harassing LEO’s out in town. RYAN BUNDY and his bodyguard with a two man security detail are out in BURNS, OR heading to BLM office to screw a sign to the door that says “permanently closed.

    ”Now, Sheriff Ward, the FBI, Mainstream Media, and many others, claimed that those at the Refuge were harassing the LEOs in Burns. However, Kullman reports that it was Idaho III%, Oregon III%, and OathKeepers that were responsible for the harassing going on in Burns. No wonder the FBI wanted to hide Kullman and his testimony. Berdotha is an OathKeeper from Bend, Oregon.

    3:41 PM: BERDOTHA talked about their group going to the airport to harass you guys (Agent note: “You guys” are meant to be FBI.)

    10:08 PM The numbers for during the day and night as permanent personnel stay roughly the same. Maybe +/- 5 people stay out in town, but they are most out of town ranchers or civilians who are in a supportive role. The media never stay overnight. There are roughly 20 “Militia” or “security” combatants on site. However, there are about 50 people on site and all of them claim to be combatants. But actual personnel who are pulling security and have weapons is about 20. There are around 6 children ages 10 and younger with 2 infants to include AMMON BUNDY’s family who are staying on site. Key players, such as RITZ, PAYNE, the BUNDY’s and COOPER do not stay in town, they stay at the refuge every night.

    11:04 PM: If you mess with the refuge (Agent note: referring to LEO), they will be right behind you to take you down.

    January 10, 2016
    – PTM9:41 AM: AMMON BUNDY and a small personal security detail are heading south to Fields, OR in one vehicle. There are 5 total personnel and 6 total weapons. They are heading down on the 205 and not using any other routes.

    9:48 AM: They are going to Fields, OR to attend a meeting where they will talk with the community about the refuge and what they’re doing. They are traveling in a white, four door, Ford pick-up.

    Kullman has been providing tactical information, however, here, he is setting the stage, probably hoping that the FBI will set up a roadblock and take Ammon and the others down. It appears that he is traveling with them, and would probably play hero if there was a roadblock, and arrest Ammon while still in the “white, four door, Ford pick-up“, going south on 205.

    11:25 AM: At Fields, OR school house. There are about 50-60 people in attendance including children.

    2:22 PM: Group heading back to refuge from Fields, OR.4:33 PM: Denotes picture of LEQUIEU. (Picture attached to 1A).

    5:18 PM: Retired Army General NELSON has arrived and he presented AMMON BUNDY with his bronze star from Iraq. NELSON is here for moral support.

    5:46 PM: PAYNE has been pretty stable, mainly dealing with operations politics with the ranchers. He is always with the BUNDY’s, PATRICK, and RITZ. He rarely leaves.

    10:02 PM: PAYNE will be leaving soon. He isn’t staying much longer, but plans on returning. PAYNE and RITZ are going to be outside the wire tonight on patrol armed with AR 5.56 and .308 FAL with scope. Unsure of their exact location.

    January 11, 2016
    – PTM – [It appears that there was two-way texting going on during this session. Case agent is pasting CHS texting, but not his own.]

    5:06 AM: CHS reported, ” I asked. He’s working on it.”

    5:34 AM: There is no evidence or proof that government computers were used, but it appears that the computers on the refuge appear untouched. Only hard supplies, like paper, printers, and physical supplies were used. The only other computers here are personal ones. No one appears capable of being able to access the computers via hacking.

    10:25 AM: PAYNE is in town on a mail run.10:29 AM: PAYNE plans to leave for an extended period of time.

    xxxx10:34 AM: LEQUIEU confirmed he was a felon today in a debate over gun rights with felons. As far as the other two, one does not have a weapon with him, or on him, and one has expressed he is not allowed to carry one. The other one is no longer on the refuge.

    2:36 PM: Someone sent that to RITZ and PAYNE (referring to photo of sexual toy-picture attached.)

    2:37 PM: Do you understand how hard it is to control my composure? I’m dying on the inside (referring to aforementioned photo).

    5:53 PM: Agents and LEO followed RITZHEIMER? Because that’s what he said. If you did or have Agents hanging out near the refuge, or on any ridge, PAYNE and JASON PATRICK agreed to go full kit and weapon to approach the Agents and surround them to talk. (Agent note: On 01/19/2016, additional details were provided in a follow-up interview). RITZHEIMER believed he was followed while on his way into town on HWY 205. He was on his way to the VERIZON store when 3-4 all white law enforcement vehicles followed him.

    What? No threat, simply talk? That’s not what we heard in the courtroom.

    5:58 PM: No he was followed into town. Said it was federal VIC’s and LEO that followed him into town.

    6:31 PM: You know they ripped down a fence the BLM put up right?

    8:18 PM: Two more semi auto .308’s showed up today. An MIA Socom and FAL.

    8:58 PM: Unsure of the timing, but the people here are trying to get a lot of money together to make a large purchase of tactical equipment. They want LBV’s, mag pouches, magazines, ammo, optics, holsters, and belts. They want to use the items to distribute to people who came with nothing. Some people are saying they are willing to contribute money to purchase weapons. It’s all talk right now. As far as acting on it, it is unclear when it will happen.

    January 12, 2016
    – PTM8:59 AM: It is unclear when, but people at MWR are trying to get a lot of money together to make a large purchase of tactical equipment. They want to buy IBV’s, mag pouches, magazines, ammo, optics, holsters, and belts for people who show-up with nothing. Some people are saying they will contribute money to buy weapons, but it’s all talk right now. Unsure when they will act on it.

    2:06 PM: For the past two nights, PAYNE and RITZHEIMER have been out around 11 PM -2 AM looking for federal and local law enforcement officers who may be in the area on the sides of the roads. They have been taking weapons with them and have been looking for about 2.5 hours to “show a force” to the Agents or LEO’s if they see them. They are usually in the area of 205 MSR.

    2:23 PM: Located another shotgun and .300 WIN MAG.

    Kullman then left the Refuge. However, he hadn’t ended his role. His Case Agent, shortly before the murder of Lavoy Finicum, who had some questions, contacted him.

    January 22, 2016
    CHS was asked to identify an individual in a photo. The individual in the attached photo is standing to the left with a black stocking cap on and a desert digital camouflage top. CHS identified the individual as Geoff Stanek who CHS believed was from northwest Oregon. CHS stated that Stanek could also be from southwest Washington. CHS stated that Stanek is a Army combat medic veteran.

    CHS was also asked if any of the subjects at the MWR had fired a weapon while at the refuge. CHS stated that the subjects talked about making a rifle range on the property to shoot and practice, but was changed to building one off the refuge and shooting somewhere else. Payne was interested in finding out where the “Feds” had been posting up and set up a rifle range right next to them.

    The FBI sought identification of individuals in a photograph, though no indication of the source of the photo. Then, they queried about gun firing on the Refuge, even though the Refuge allows hunting and has no restriction on firearms (See Burns Chronicles No 26 – Firearms Not Allowed). It was just a day later that “John Killman (See Burns Chronicles No42 – Fabio Minoggio (John Killman)) began firearms training and led the occupiers in to a firing exercise, which the video of became a key piece of the prosecution’s evidence – until Killman testified.

    January 25, 2016
    CHS reported that Jon Ritzheimer left the Malheur Wildlife Refuge (MWR) last night and plans to be away for approximately a week or so. Payne is still at the MWR and CHS was not aware if Payne intended to ever leave on his own.

    January 25, 21016, the day before LaVoy’s death, is the last report that is within the obtained documents.

    Kullman demonstrates one of the characteristics of an informant. He tried to ride Peltier as an entrance to the Refuge, hoping that it would be “credentials”, though Peltier made clear that she did not know Kullman. Kullman then lied to Peltier about his role and authority at the Refuge, but he failed, in that effort, too.

    When someone starts dropping names, contact those named to see if what is claimed is, in fact, true. Your diligence, in this regard, may save you some grief.

    Kullman was an “inside” informant, identified as “CHS #14”.

    Prior to publishing this article, I called Kullman. As I began to explain that I was writing an article about the role he played at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, and see if he wanted to see the article and comment, he hung up the phone, in my midsentence.

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    • [​IMG]Constitutional Truth says:
      December 28, 2016 at 2:02 pm
      Gary,
      Of all the articles you’ve written thus far regarding informants, this one has me the angriest. That a fellow veteran, a Marine (dammit, he doesn’t deserve that title anymore in my opinion), would sell out his Countrymen for a few pieces of silver, has my blood boiling!
      All I can say is this: I’ll see his “semper fi”, and raise him an Aim High!
      Char
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    • [​IMG]Julie says:
      December 28, 2016 at 2:39 pm
      Thank you for your hard work..
      It’s invaluable!!
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