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Anti Regime Protests in Iran Heating Up

Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by Irons, Dec 30, 2017.



  1. Irons

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    Political Protests in Iran Spread Amid Rumors of Regime Change Goals…
    Posted on December 29, 2017 by sundance

    News of spreading and morphing political protests in Iran are beginning to surface as social media accounts are now gaining MSM attention.

    Openly political protests are not common in Iran ever since the 2009 ‘Green Revolution‘ was harshly put-down by security forces carrying out the instructions of the ruling Mullahs and political class. Iranian security services are omnipresent and looming. However, what appears to have begun as protests over prices, inflation and the lack of economic freedom, seems to have morphed into several regional political protests directly challenging the Mullahs and the reigning political class.

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    Back in 2009, after President Obama gave his famous Cairo speech, the message was interpreted by the Iranian reform movement, the “Greens”, as a spark toward freedom. However, the Mullahs responded violently, Iranian security forces attacked the protestors, several were killed and hundreds jailed and President Obama stood by, watched the brutality, saying and doing nothing. 2009 was a very dark time for the reform movement.

    It is too soon to tell if today’s protests are the beginning of a similar uprising, a resurgence of those previously crushed cries for freedom, but the reform movement appears to be pushing the message: this is indeed their objective. It is a very interesting development.

    (Reuters) – Demonstrators chanted anti-government slogans in several cities across Iran on Friday, Iranian news agencies and social media reports said, as price protests turned into the largest wave of demonstrations since nationwide pro-reform unrest in 2009.


    Police dispersed anti-government demonstrators in the western city of Kermanshah as protests spread to Tehran and several other cities a day after rallies in the northeast, the semi-official news agency Fars said.

    The outbreak of unrest reflects growing discontent over rising prices and alleged corruption, as well as concern about the Islamic Republic’s costly involvement in regional conflicts such as those in Syria and Iraq.

    An official said a few protesters had been arrested in Tehran, and footage posted on social media showed a heavy police presence in the capital and some other cities.

    About 300 demonstrators gathered in Kermanshah after what Fars said was a “call by the anti-revolution”. They shouted: “Political prisoners should be freed” and “Freedom or death”, and some public property was destroyed. Fars did not name any opposition groups.

    The protests in Kermanshah, the main city in a region where an earthquake killed over 600 people in November, took place a day after hundreds rallied in Iran’s second largest city Mashhad to protest at high prices and shout anti-government slogans.

    Videos posted on social media showed demonstrators yelling, “The people are begging, the clerics act like God”.

    Fars said there were protests in the cities of Sari and Rasht in the north, Qazvin west of Tehran and Qom south of the capital, and also in Hamadan in western Iran. It said many marchers who wanted to raise economic demands left the rallies after demonstrators shouted political slogans. (read more)

    I would advise caution not to read too much into the events and accept there are tenuously connected seeds within the larger Middle-East struggles. History is filled with the conflicting polarity between Persians and Arabs.

    Iran has been on a growing question to influence the broader middle-east ideology, and Saudi coalition members are pushing back against that influence with open support for the reform agenda within Iran. Proxies on proxies, and sub-sects on sub-sects. A considerable challenge for those who would support increased ‘freedom’.


    [​IMG]Maryam Rajavi

    ✔@Maryam_Rajavi


    This is the Iranian people’s great uprising to overthrow the mullahs’ oppressive and corrupt dictatorship.#Iran#Mashhad#Kermanshah

    10:27 AM - Dec 29, 2017

    Viewpoint of National Council of Resistance in Iran – SEE HERE

    Another Viewpoint of Resistance Supporters – SEE HERE

    Reminder, proceed with caution. There’s a great deal of misinformation.


    [​IMG]New York Times World

    ✔@nytimesworld


    Iranians protest over their government's handling of the economy, with youth unemployment at more than 40 percent http://nyti.ms/2Dx4eaG

    4:52 PM - Dec 29, 2017
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    Scattered Protests Erupt in Iran Over Economic Woes
    Demonstrations spread to Tehran and other cities, highlighting weak economic conditions in a country where youth unemployment is over 40 percent.

    nytimes.com


    29 Dec
    [​IMG]Thomas Wictor@ThomasWictor
    (1) I figured out how Assad will leave Syria.

    Assad and his allies are making deals.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-buses-arrive-transport-jihadists-occupied-golan-heights-area-idlib/ …


    [​IMG]Oliver@oliverartist

    MBS : “iran is trying to destabilize Saudi Arabia, so iran will face destabilization in its own soil pic.twitter.com/DU92PtYUqz

    3:10 PM - Dec 29, 2017

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    [​IMG]Thomas Wictor@ThomasWictor

    (1) Okay.

    If the security forces are not following orders, it means that this is indeed regime change.

    5:43 PM - Dec 29, 2017
     
  2. Irons

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    Secretary Tillerson Transmits Support for Iranian Protests….
    Posted on December 29, 2017 by sundance

    Interesting. Visible support for a position 180° from prior administration.

    transition of government” supported by U.S.

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    State Dept – We are following reports of multiple peaceful protests by Iranian citizens in cities across the country. Iran’s leaders have turned a wealthy country with a rich history and culture into an economically depleted rogue state whose chief exports are violence, bloodshed, and chaos. As President Trump has said, the longest-suffering victims of Iran’s leaders are Iran’s own people.

    The United States strongly condemns the arrest of peaceful protesters. We urge all nations to publicly support the Iranian people and their demands for basic rights and an end to corruption.

    On June 14, 2017, Secretary Tillerson testified to Congress that he supports “those elements inside of Iran that would lead to a peaceful transition of government. Those elements are there, certainly as we know.” The Secretary today repeats his deep support for the Iranian people. (link)

    Posted in Iran, Islam, Jihad, media bias, Saudi Arabia, Secretary of State, Secretar
     
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    hammerhead Not just a screen name Gold Chaser

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    Cry Freedom: Iranian Protests Grow in Day #2 – Regime Forces Crack Down…
    Posted on December 30, 2017 by sundance

    It looks like the Iranian Green Revolution is back on the streets as waves of protests are happening. In 2009 the Mullah’s brutally cracked down on the reformers and President Obama stood by. In 2017 the reformers have an ally in the oval office as President Trump and his entire administration (specifically Rex Tillerson and Nikki Haley) openly show their support for the movement. Stunning developments.

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    The U.S. Media are attempting to spin the protests as “pro-regime” and claiming the supporters are pro-Khameni and pro government. That narrative is 100% false, yet it highlights the severity of the entire left-wing media apparatus as they attempt to prop-up the failed policies of the Obama administration.

    Tens-of-thousands of Iranians have taken to the streets to express their anger, and unfortunately for the preferred media script that anger is not directed at President Trump or Saudi Arabia; but rather at the mullahs and their oppressive security forces.

    The protests may have begun over economic grievances in the northeastern city of Mashhad. However, the uprising has grown to at least 18 cities nationwide. The slogals are no longer about corruption and economics, they are directly confronting the Islamic Republic:


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    [​IMG]TrumpSoldier@DaveNYviii

    Interactive Live Map of #IranianProtests #IranProtests
    Click on the symbols and look to the right for media>>>https://iran.liveuamap.com/

    2:12 PM - Dec 30, 2017


    Death to [Supreme Leader Ali] Khamenei!”
    Death to Hezbollah!”
    Not Gaza, Not Lebanon, Our Life Only for Iran!”
    We Will Die to Get Our Iran Back!”
    Clerics Out of Our Country!”


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    [​IMG]Babak Taghvaee@BabakTaghvaee

    Now: Thousands Rally in Mashhad (NE of #Iran) Protesting Poor Living Conditions shouting "You made Islam alive but you made people poor". Last week #Iran|ians started protesting regime because of poor living conditions in #Tehran. Now these protests have spread to other cities.

    6:58 AM - Dec 28, 2017

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    [​IMG] YouTube ‎@YouTube

    [​IMG]Banafsheh Zand@BanPourZan

    #Iran - Today in the city of #Kermanshah . #Protesters chant: "Death to the #Dictator , death to the dictator...." https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=86&v=_5PzHbl4Myc …

    3:45 PM - Dec 29, 2017

    28 Dec
    [​IMG]Babak Taghvaee@BabakTaghvaee
    Now: Thousands Rally in Mashhad (NE of #Iran) Protesting Poor Living Conditions shouting "You made Islam alive but you made people poor". Last week #Iran|ians started protesting regime because of poor living conditions in #Tehran. Now these protests have spread to other cities. pic.twitter.com/SLeM7emRks


    [​IMG]Babak Taghvaee@BabakTaghvaee

    People of Mashhad shout "No Gaza, No Lebanon, our lives are devoted to Iran" protesting Iran's Islamic regime for financially supporting terrorist groups such as #Hezbollah and #Hamaspic.twitter.com/Ed7YaqBwxK

    7:42 AM - Dec 28, 2017

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    [​IMG]Josh Caplan@joshdcaplan

    #IranProtests: Crowd cheers as flames engulf banner of Ayatollah Khomeini

    9:32 PM - Dec 29, 2017

    [​IMG]Joyce Karam

    ✔@Joyce_Karam


    BBC obtained video of 2 #Iran protestors shot, carried out in Durood, Lurestan province. #Iranprotestshttps://twitter.com/bbcpersian/status/947159440914075648 …

    3:34 PM - Dec 30, 2017

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    [​IMG]BBC Persian

    ✔@bbcpersian


    گزارش شاهدان عینی و تصاویر تأیید نشده‌ای که به دست بی‌بی‌سی فارسی رسیده، از اصابت گلوله به دست‌کم دو نفر از معترضان در شهر #دورود استان #لرستان حکایت دارد

    12:36 PM - Dec 30, 2017

    President Trump Tweeted his prior statements from the U.N. General Assembly about Iran and the hopes for the people of Iran. U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Nikki Haley, also is transmitting support for the reformers along with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.


    [​IMG]Donald J. Trump

    ✔@realDonaldTrump


    The entire world understands that the good people of Iran want change, and, other than the vast military power of the United States, that Iran’s people are what their leaders fear the most....

    2:00 PM - Dec 30, 2017


    [​IMG]Donald J. Trump

    ✔@realDonaldTrump


    Oppressive regimes cannot endure forever, and the day will come when the Iranian people will face a choice. The world is watching!

    2:02 PM - Dec 30, 2017
    [​IMG]Donald J. Trump

    ✔@realDonaldTrump


    Many reports of peaceful protests by Iranian citizens fed up with regime’s corruption & its squandering of the nation’s wealth to fund terrorism abroad. Iranian govt should respect their people’s rights, including right to express themselves. The world is watching! #IranProtests

    10:42 PM - Dec 29, 2017


    [​IMG]Jerome Corsi@jerome_corsi

    IT'S HAPPENING! Iranians Are Rising Up Against Brutal Khamenei Regime --- PROTEST VIDEOS http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/happening-iranians-rising-brutal-khamenei-regime-protest-videos/ … Remember 2009 when OBAMA IGNORED protests in IRAN and went to CAIRO to tell the world he'd EXPERIENCED ISLAM on 3 continents. TRUMP WILL SUPPORT IRAN PROTESTERS

    9:04 AM - Dec 30, 2017
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    IT'S HAPPENING! Iranians Are Rising Up in Against Brutal Khamenei Regime --- PROTEST VIDEOS
    The people of Iran are once again rising up against the brutal Khamenei regime. Tehran- Kermanshah – Mashhad The people are even marching in the holy city of Qom! Collapsing of #Islamic_Republic has...

    thegatewaypundit.com



    The reformers and protesters face a brutal Iranian regime that spends most of its time trying to retain itself and will not hesitate to crack down, just as it did in 1999 and 2009.

    Perhaps the difference now is they have the support of U.S. President Donald Trump, and it is likely our western propaganda media will not be able to hide the truth much longer.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...tests-grow-in-day-2-regime-forces-crack-down/
     
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  6. Irons

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    Nah, Persians are smarter and better looking than arabs.

    Claudia Lynx born in Tehran 1982
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    Can the CIA do it again...we will see.
     
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    andial Sir Midas Member Site Supporter ++

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    Why is the CIA trying to destabilize Iran after they helped Russia and Syria and Iraq kick the shit out of ISIS ?
     
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    'Death to the Ayatollah': Iranian protests get bloody as two demonstrators are 'shot dead' after angry crowds burn down a government building and torch cars while thousands take to streets to call for revolution in biggest revolt since 2009
    • Protests spreading across Iran at night after earlier clashes at Tehran University
    • Video appears to show two young men shot dead in the western city of Dorud
    • Government offices set fire to, Supreme Leader's picture pulled down by crowd
    • Donald Trump tweeted speech in which he said oppressive regimes can't last


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5223609/Two-Iranian-protesters-shot-dead-protests-continue.html#ixzz52q1yPlEa
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    Valerie Jarret can return home this way
     
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    Was on a SCUBA excursion in Mexico with a family of Persians. Wasn't a bad looking girl in the bunch, in fact, they were all super hot from the mom all the way down the lineage.
     
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    exactly right. sponsored protest + gov crackdown + zionist media crying out in pain + pressure for chump and congress to save the children

    ukraine, syria playbook
     
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    There was an opening a few years ago, but Obama did not to support a change of regime in Iran. It would be risky to do so, but we still owe them for the hostages and blowing up the barracks in Lebanon. I wonder if there is any possibility the CIA is busy over there right now???

    As for the post above, I am all for letting in hot single women from Iran, SA and even Syria if they are willing to shave their cooters.
     
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    I was in the car last night driving to the liquor store, had the radio on WHAS. The Larry Kudlow Show came on. I haven't listened to it before. He started out and said before the panel talks about financial stuff, he wanted to talk about Iran. Some woman, I didn't catch her name, said she was very happy they could talk about this, and made this point, I am paraphrasing of course. I tried to find a podcast of it but I have been unable to. She said:

    The Iranian people are tired of the governments military adventures abroad, squandering the national treasure and lives while intervening in Iraq, Syria and Yemen. They aren't going to take it any more.

    Think about that. Substitute the USA for Iran. WTF?

    I wish I could find it so you all could hear it. Amazing.
    When I heard this, I thought to myself, the neocons are in full bloom here, behind this 1000%.
    Which of course leads me to the thought they are actually doing what they have done before in Libya, Egypt, Ukraine, Syria, etc. Using the Usual Suspects of course.
    Those fighters they saved from Syria and all those weapons had to go somewhere and have to do something.
    It seems that the plan is to take the fight to Iran.

    I have no love for the government of Iran, but this transparent bullshit is just a bit too much. Like 2009, if the people of Iran go for this they will be dying in the streets and not the USA or any other country will come to their aid. They will be exposed and the government will take them out.

    When are we going to take our international policies back from the Israelis?
     
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    There should be a unlimited quota for young single childless hot women to immigrate to the USA. I am behind that for sure. From anywhere.
     
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    I have a feeling the news stories involving Mrs. Maryam Rajavi willl taper off till no one ever hears from Her again... Including Mr. Rajavi.
    Iran.jpg
    Also got confused if this was a map of the Iranian peasant protest, or cities with near by US military bases..

    Dont get me wrong, I understand that the cultist government in Iran is twisted and fecked up even by the 11th century's standards. I just dont wanna hear about a new Protester Advisory wing of Delta Force in six months. Let the Muzloids figure it out for them selves
     
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    These protestors are going about it all wrong.

    They need to organize and choose their Mullah targets.

    Assemble teams that go out at a predetermined time and eliminate them.

    Riots won't do a thing.

    They need to be organized like a well oiled machine.
     
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    The USA does not need to destabilize yet another middle eastern country, especially one that’s fighting Isis and is a sworn enemy to the people who attacked us on 9/11, Saudi Arabia.

    The taxpayers will end up paying for it, the MIC will end up profiting from our tax money and the blood of our soldiers.

    STOP!!! I can’t believe anyone here on this forum would support this. Criticizing obama for not doing it? That was probably the best move that his administration did.

    Didn’t trump say that we didn’t belong in the Middle East?

    If we got Isis from overthrowing Saddam, wtf are we going to get from overthrowing Iran?


    Agreed.
     
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    Iran blacks out social media as President Rouhani slams Trump in address to his nation after defiant protesters face water cannon and hundreds of arrests on the fourth day of demonstrations
    • Rouhani hit back at Donald Trump saying he had called Iranians terrorists
    • Trump supporting protesters 'but has no right to sympathise with Iranians'
    • Iranian regime blocked Instagram and messaging app Telegram amid protests
    • Comes after regime vowed protesters would 'pay the price' for causing unrest
    • Despite clampdown on social media, protesters continue to take to the streets


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5224867/Iran-orders-social-media-blackout-amid-protests.html#ixzz52sB0NoYB
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    How come the Iranian leaders Mahdi hasn't come out of his hole to shut this all down?

    "Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the father of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, was a Twelver.
    So is the current supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad."

    "The 12th (Imam), Muhammad al-Mahdi, is believed by these Shiites to have been born in present-day Iraq in 869 and never to have died, only gone into hiding. Twelvers -- not other Shiites or Sunni Muslims -- believe that al-Mahdi will return as a messiah with Jesus to bring peace to the world and establish Islam as the ruling faith across the globe.The apocalyptic catch? The Mahdi is expected to appear when the world is wracked by utter chaos and war."

    https://www.thoughtco.com/who-is-the-12th-imam-3555177
     
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    Oh man I hope the opposing protestors don’t start beating the crap out of each other vandalize property like they do here in the U.S. when electing a new leader.
     
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    I'm thinking if it does, it'll be from government infiltrators that will torch this event
     
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    The MIC, CIA and the rest are several rungs down from the decision making. But yes, someone finally remembers, War is a Business.

    The price of oil is still too low, improving future arms sales and potential conflict heating up are very good for business. Even soldiers are in line for overtime.

    It doesn't matter how things play out or who is supporting who, that is just theatrics. Even who wins and who loses doesn't matter to the planners. The business model is very solid.
     
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    You'll know the regime in Iran is completely done when ex-pat Iranians storm one the Iranian embassies outside of Iran in a sort of reverse 1979 Iranian hostage siege and the host country does nothing. I could see that going down at 622 3rd Ave in NYC if the Commie Mayor DeBlasio doesn't get involved. Then again the Police hate DeBlasio so much they may stop for coffee (and brew a new pot) on the way to the call at the embassy.
     
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    FWIW.................

    Why US Foreign Policy Will Re-ignite Extremism In 2018
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    Submitted by Elijah Magnier, Middle East based chief international war correspondent for Al Rai Media

    "Islamic State" (ISIS) has been defeated in Iraq and Syria, regardless of the presence of a few tactical remaining pockets. Moreover, following the decision of the international community and the other countries in the region to end the war in Syria, al-Qaeda is facing infighting and at the same time acknowledging their defeat and accepting the impossibility of changing the regime in Syria and of splitting Iraq. Does this mean the bloody extremism that hit the Middle East is over and won’t ever return? Is it possible for terrorist organisations to rebrand themselves or regain control to hit back again?

    Al-Qaeda found a fertile ground in Afghanistan following the end of the Russian occupation in the 80s. It enjoyed a “resplendent golden era” until the 2000s, attacking various US objectives and bases in the Middle East. The 2003 US invasion of Iraq and the presence of tens of thousands of American soldiers on the ground in Mesopotamia offered a perfect setting, after Afghanistan, for the proliferation of jihadist extremists in the Middle East.

    Al-Qaeda in Iraq metamorphosed into that more lethal and blood-thirsty organisation (ISIS) following the war imposed on Syria, occupying half of the country and a third of Iraq. It became known as ISIS, led by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, one of many who graduated (arrested and later released) from the US “Jihadist University” at Buca detention camp.

    Baghdadi became the master of Ijtihad, legalising looting, slaughtering of other Muslims and non-Muslims, raping, and reintroducing the slavery market. Through its highly sophisticated communication system and the use of social media, his group managed to attract recruits from Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, Bahrein, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, Yemen, Africa, plus many Europeans and others from all corners of the globe. These were joining for money, adventure, looking for a home, for an easy marriage, following a relative or a friend; others were convinced by the cause, and eager to live in a “prosperous Islamic Caliphate”.

    Baghdadi blended with his call, and with advanced communication tools, intellectuals and non-intellectuals alike. They responded to him positively, creating the largest gathering of those willing to embark on the Jihad ever seen in modern days. Borders were open to ISIS via Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon for all those willing to join the “Jihad” and for his group to exchange commerce, oil, and weapons. All taboos were lifted in favour of one cause: changing the Syrian regime.

    What was the plan? To replace the Syrian President’s secular governance with an Islamic Emirates or State? Was it to install some de-facto “Islamic State” with little governance experience and no serious allies and easy to defeat, to expel Russia from Tartus naval base (under a 1971 deal with Syria, Russia has leased the Tartus facility as part of a multi-billion-dollar debt write-off) and protect Israel from the “Axis of the Resistance”? That may be the only plausible possibility since we are observing today the US decision to occupy a quarter of the Syrian territory and unilaterally consider Jerusalem as the “Capital of Israel”, threatening all those who stand in the way. It also explains why Saudi Arabia was eagerly willing to see Iran and Assad lose the war to the benefit of those extremists sent by its Kingdom and financed with billions of dollars to win and to stay camped on Israel’s borders.

    The US-EU-Saudi-Qatar-Turkish-Israeli plan has failed and Syria, Iran, Russia and Hezbollah won. But are Takfiri jihadists going to disappear? The answer is simply and sadly “no!”. Baghdadi didn’t invent a new Islam, his source of inspiration derives from books available in most Islamic libraries worldwide, inviting readers to kill other Muslims and non-Muslims according to a specific interpretation of the holy book, the Quran, and the Hadith.

    In fact, how can these Takfiri vanish when books calling for hate speech and the killing and intolerance of other continue to be widely available. To name but a few: ‘Millat Ibrahim’ by Abu Mohammad al-Maqdisi; the ‘Management of savagery’ by Abu Bakr Naji; Ma’alim fi al-tariq by Sayyid Qutb; Kitab al-tawhid by Muhammad bin Abdel-Wahab; Fusul fil-Imama wal-Bay’a by Abu Munser al-Sharqiqi; Masael fi Fikh al-Jihad by Abu Abdallah al-Muhajer; Maalem al-taifa al-Mansura by Maysara al-Ghareeb; Rafa’ al-Iltibas by Mohamad Al-Atibi; Fatawi Ibyn Taymiyah, Kitab al-Tawhid and Kitab al-kabaer by Mohamad bin Abdel Wahhab; and many more…

    It is true that Jihadists are surely losing the Levant and Mesopotamia. Nevertheless, they operate in Sinai (Egypt), Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Nigeria and Asia. Killing jihadists is not difficult. However, the ideology remains alive and can damage any and every city: the tools and ideas are widely available which convert a peaceful human being into a beast hunting other men to kill. Moreover, the US’s foreign policy is one of the most provocative incentives for this ideology to continue existing. The US apparently cannot learn from its mistakes; occupying other territories means that, sooner or later, guns are focussed on its interests and against other associated states, worldwide.

    US foreign policy has been a total failure in recent years:
    • the failure of the partition of Iraq through the Kurdistan referendum weakened the US and Israel.
    • The struggle between Saudi Arabia and Qatar gave more strength to Iran and weakened Saudi Arabia, one of US blind allies.
    • The growth of ISIS in Iraq created al-Hashd al-Sha’bi (Popular Mobilisation Units), and gave more power to Iran and to Hezbollah in Syria.
    • Hezbollah became a regional force threatening Israel and also the US interests and partners in the Middle East.
    • The US Foreign Policy in Ukraine that was aiming to enlarge NATO and its negligence in eliminating ISIS in Syria and Iraq allowed Russia to move in and bite off a chunk of the US area of control and influence in the Middle East.
    • President Assad has become stronger than ever before the war, willing to face losses and to confront Israel if necessary.
    • The failed Turkish coup d’état pushed Turkey away from the US and closer to Russia and Iran: Erdogan is even willing to meet Assad again and put their differences behind them.
    • The Saudi kidnapping of the Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri damaged the Kingdom relationship with many of the Sunni in Lebanon and moved the pro-Saudi Hariri closer to Hezbollah.
    • In Yemen, Ali Abdallah Saleh will be remembered as the one who betrayed the Houthis, and was killed at the hands of Iran’s allies while escaping.
    • And finally, the US has become an unwelcome partner in the Palestinian peace process following Trump’s decision to recognise the Palestinian Capital as the Capital of Israel. Trump fell as manna to Iran and Hezbollah when he pushed the Palestinian cause back into the limelight after the damage it had received from ISIS in recent years. Even if Israel was occupying Jerusalem and was digging under the city and its holy places, the US overt decision turned the compass of all jihadists towards Israel and united most of the Arabs behind one cause, even if not all totally believe in it.

    Since President Trump is in power his awkward alliance with Saudi Arabia, the “Israeli enemy” has been replaced with the “Iranian enemy”. Nevertheless, this failed attempt has created a counter effect, where Saudi prestige is hitting rock bottom, whilst Iran’s influence in the Middle East is growing at the speed of light, a country that has been guided for 29 years by a 78-year-old, Sayyed Ali Khamenei.

    Khamenei triggers fear in the hearts of his enemies and enjoys the support of his own people every time he speaks. He – with a simple gesture or by taking a political position – is obeyed by the Iranians and is sitting on top of a solid ruling structure regardless of the endless western wishful thinking imagining the overthrow of his Islamic Republic. Khamenei has moved his country towards new horizons with solid ramifications in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Afghanistan: much of the credit for this must go to the US’s bumbling foreign policy.

    It seems the US has become expert in grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-31/why-us-foreign-policy-will-re-ignite-extremism-2018
     
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    In 1925 the oil companies made up a title "Shah" and installed that family as rulers...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahlavi_dynasty We owe them too. Imagine being ruled by Exxon or Standard oil or mobil or all three of them.
     
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    Here is one point from the article that I think the author is wrong about. I will explain my thoughts.
    The author thinks Trump is bumbling and making mistakes. Is he?
    What is the end state goal that Trump has? We don't know.
    But think about this. Israel has been the Air Force for ISIS, they have openly been supporting them with medical services, they have struck the SAA across the border on the Golan with artillery and missiles, it is alleged they have had officers in C&C for ISIS etc in Syria. I see them as the "bad guy" in this light. Note ISIS has never attacked Israel, and one mistaken incident was apologized for by ISIS.
    In other words, Israel has been riding high, causing chaos in Muslim countries while not losing a soldier, any wet work needed is done by US SF etc.
    Now Trump gives the Israelis what they wanted [Jerusalem recognized as the Israeli capital by the US]. What does that do in a practical sense for Israel? Nothing. What does it do in a negative sense? Pisses off all the Arabs in the occupied territories, pisses off all the surrounding Arab population, pisses off Iran, hell, based on the UN vote, pisses off just about everybody. AGAINST ISRAEL.

    Geez, talk about being careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

    In one master move that cost virtual nothing, and APPEARS to be a support for Israel, Trump heated up the situation between Israel and everybody else.

    He is a f&*king genius.
     
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    Most people always conveniently start the story at the hostage situation. The truth is they took our embassy hostage because the USA literally destroyed their democracy and installed a dictatorship. The USA has even apologized for it.

    If Americans are upset about Iranians taking hostages, imagine how they feel about decades of having an oppressive dictatorship forced upon them and squandering their nations natural resources for decades?

    For fucks sake tell the whole story.
     
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    I know we are ruled by somebody, some said or are saying oil companies, but I'm not so sure.
    What I am quite sure about is that we are not ruled by the sock puppets they put on teevee and tell us are our elected leaders.

    The oil companies didn't make anything up.

    The area known as Iran and formerly Persia had a monarchy for 2500 years, as the form of government.

    Shah was what they did and do call a king.

    Shah (/ʃɑː/; Persian: شاه‎, translit. Šāh, pronounced [ʃɒːh], "king") is a title given to the emperors, kings, princes and lords of Iran (historically also known as Persia). It was also adopted by the kings of Shirvan (a historical Iranian region in Transcaucasia) namely the Shirvanshahs, the rulers and offspring of the Ottoman Empire (in that context spelled as Şah and Şeh), Mughal emperors of the Indian Subcontinent, the Bengal Sultanate,[1] as well as in Afghanistan. In Iran (Persia and Greater Persia) the title was continuously used; rather than King in the European sense, each Persian ruler regarded himself as the Šāhanšāh (King of Kings) or Emperor of the Persian Empire.
     
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    The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد‎), was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime MinisterMohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the United Kingdom (under the name "Operation Boot") and the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project[5] or "Operation Ajax").[6][7][8][9]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état
     
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    What the US did in 1953 was take a constitutional monarchy something like the UK and turned it into just another dictatorship. It is kind of difficult to pretend that did not happen.
     
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    They had a system of checks and balances. The Mossadegh guy, was elected prime minister and wanted to audit what is now known as British Petroleum and limit it’s contr over the country.

    The cia and brits took him out and put puppets in charge, effectively making Iran a dictatorship.
     
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    Let's say you're right. What do you think could be behind this?
     
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    I know who it isn't.
    It's not Israel and it's not the neocons.
    Although both think they are benefiting from it.
    Who actually had the idea and pitched it to Trump? Or did he think it up himself?
    I don't know.
     
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    The Iranina gov't can use snipers, media/internet control, hoses, tanks...
    What chance do the protesters have?
     
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    The last Shah's son was on tv yesterday talking about regime change. I don't know if he was hustling for $ or trying to take the throne? I know they could have a Parliament, but doubt any modern government could be run by a monarchy today. Maybe a dictator, but no king.
     
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    the plan is right on schedule. nyc.media beginning to do its part - trying to convince us how evil the iran gov is....and that 'we' need to do something

    fox news this morning had a whack job 'expert' on there claiming iran gov is biggest sponsor of terrism in the world and that they are 'savages'
     
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    How about the US and it's allies can fight Iran's mullahs by proxy in 100 shithole countries for the next 100 years, or they can support the permanent removal of the mullahs themselves? End result being Iran run by Persians again.

    Neocons wouldn't want this because a lot of endless wars will stop and others won't be started. Israel won't want this because they will lose a boogyman they use to beg for money. Russia and china won't want this because they get oil dirt cheap from Iran. Etc. Many belligerent assholes are using "the boogyman Iran" for their own purposes.

    Just trying to look at all possibilities.


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    Isis is CIA front group.
     

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