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California suing to stop border wall in CA

Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by southfork, Feb 9, 2018.



  1. southfork

    southfork Mother Lode Found Mother Lode

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    The judge Trump disparaged as ‘Mexican’ will preside over an important border wall case


    By Eli Rosenberg February 5 Email the author
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    HOW FKING SAD IS THIS

    Gonzalo P. Curiel is a U.S. district judge in California. (Indiana University)
    The federal judge whom President Trump disparaged as a “Mexican” during his campaign will preside over a case brought against one of the president’s most highly touted initiatives: the U.S-Mexico border wall.

    District Judge Gonzalo P. Curiel, who was targeted by the president while he was the judge of a class-action lawsuit against the president’s now-defunct Trump University, will on Friday hear the case brought by the state of California, some environmental groups and Rep. Raúl M. Grijalva (D-Ariz.). It challenges waivers that were given to the federal branch more than 10 years ago to bypass some federal and state laws for border security.

    The case, which was initially three separate lawsuits before being consolidated by Curiel, represents a substantial legal challenge to the construction of Trump’s potential border wall.

    Andrew Gordon, a former Department of Homeland Security lawyer during the Obama administration, told McClatchy, which first reported the story, that a ruling against the administration could slow plans for construction along the U.S.-Mexico border, even if the ruling is later overturned.

    “This is a very significant case,” Gordon told the news service.

    The groups that have brought the lawsuit have a significant legal burden to meet. The waivers they challenge were granted in 1996 and 2005 to allow the federal government to bypass some federal and state laws, including environmental statutes, in the name of border security.

    Brian Segee, a lawyer with the Center for Biological Diversity, one of the plaintiffs, told McClatchy that a key debate will be whether Congress meant to waive these laws into the distant future or only for specific projects ongoing at the time the waivers were issued.

    [Yet again, Trump’s border wall is blocking an immigration deal on ‘dreamers’]

    California has said the construction of a border wall could do “irreparable harm” to its wildlife. Grijalva’s suit says previous environmental analyses are out of date and did not take into account updated border-security measures, including the potential construction of a border wall.

    It is yet another showdown in federal court over Trump’s immigration policies. The lawsuit also brings Curiel, whose court is in San Diego, back into the national spotlight on a case about a topic that is nearly as synonymous with the president as his defunct university.

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    Trump’s 11-minute rant about Judge Gonzalo Curiel, in full


    On May 27, presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump went on an 11-minute rant about Gonzalo Curiel. (Reuters)

    The last time, as Curiel served as the judge over the case on some of the lawsuits which alleged fraud against Trump University, Trump began to attack him, when the presidential candidate was still considered by most to be a long shot for the position though he had secured the GOP nomination.

    Perhaps most jarring was Trump’s continued use of Curiel’s ethnicity to attack the federal judge’s impartiality. Trump falsely asserted that Curiel was a “Mexican,” — Curiel was born in Indiana — and other times said that he was “Hispanic” and “Spanish,” seemingly as an attempt to argue that the judge was biased because of Trump’s sharply conservative immigration ideas, including of course, the wall proposal.

    “Look, he’s proud of his heritage, okay? I’m building a wall,” Trump said of Curiel in June 2016 to CNN anchor Jake Tapper. “He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico.”

    Trump’s remarks, which he repeated at various points for months, drew some rebukes from his own party — even Speaker of the House Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) called the remarks “racist” — and prompted the candidate to issue a statement saying his comments were being misconstrued.

    Curiel, whose parents were immigrants from Mexico, did not respond publicly to Trump’s attacks. The fraud lawsuits ended in a $25 million settlement Trump agreed to pay out shortly after the election.

    Though Trump insisted during his campaign that Mexico would pay for the wall, Congress has sought to secure funding from American taxpayers. The amount of money for the project is a subject of ongoing budget negotiations that have already shut the federal government down once.

    Read more:

    ‘Mexican heritage’ judge bashed by Trump will oversee deported ‘dreamer’ case

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  2. TAEZZAR

    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Hopefully this will be an insurmountable obstacle.

    WTF, this about 1 billionth of the of the land mass of commiefornia, and there is little wildlife, other than illegal crosser's, in most of that area.

    To call that judge a POS would be an insult to "shit" !!
     
  3. Juristic Person

    Juristic Person They drew first blood Platinum Bling

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    That's fine. California won't get a wall. We can put the wall along the Arizona and Nevada border and Isolate California between the wall, the Pacific and Mexico.
     
  4. the_shootist

    the_shootist The war is here on our doorstep! Midas Member Site Supporter ++

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    We should wall off California from the rest of the union, cut off their connection to our water and let them fend for themselves. We can import our fruits and vegetables from Mexico! Nothing worse than a traitor!
     
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  5. Juristic Person

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    Pelosi can be their first President!
     
  6. TAEZZAR

    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Where do you think they are coming from now ???
     
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  7. Joseph

    Joseph Gold Member Gold Chaser Site Supporter ++

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    I think a good percentage of the rest of the country is getting to that point in time where a blanket response to anything out of California will be to simply tell them to go F*ck themselves.
     
  8. DodgebyDave

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    Commiefornia cried for democracy. Have a slice of cake and stfu.
     
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  9. Scorpio

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    'lil judge has some work to do,

    needs to go back to when cali became a state,

    when they did that, agreeing to be part of the union, then the border is now owned by the .corp of US of friggin A, and it supersedes the border of the state.

    everything within that state, including its border, is subject to the crown
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    What was California before it became a state?

    The area became a part of Mexico in 1821 following its successful war for independence, but was ceded to the United States in 1848 after the Mexican–American War. The western portion of Alta California then was organized and admitted as the 31st state on September 9, 1850.

    State of California - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California
     
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    California becomes the 31st state in record time
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    Though it had only been a part of the United States for less than two years, California becomes the 31st state in the union (without ever even having been a territory) on this day in 1850.

    Mexico had reluctantly ceded California and much of its northern territory to the United States in the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo,. When the Mexican diplomats signed the treaty, they pictured California as a region of sleepy mission towns with a tiny population of about 7,300-not a devastating loss to the Mexican empire. Their regret might have been much sharper had they known that gold had been discovered at Sutter’s Mill in Coloma, California, nine days before they signed the peace treaty. Suddenly, the greatest gold rush in history was on, and “forty-niners” began flooding into California chasing after the fist-sized gold nuggets rumored to be strewn about the ground just waiting to be picked up. California’s population and wealth skyrocketed.

    Most newly acquired regions of the U.S. went through long periods as territories before they had the 60,000 inhabitants needed to achieve statehood, and prior to the Gold Rush, emigration to California had been so slow that it would have been decades before the population reached that number. But with gold fever reaching epidemic proportions around the world, more than 60,000 people from around the globe came to California in 1849 alone. Faced with such rapid growth, as well as a thorny congressional debate over the question of slavery in the new territories, Congress allowed California to jump straight to full statehood without ever passing through the formal territorial stage. After a rancorous debate between the slave-state and free-soil advocates, Congress finally accepted California as a free-labor state under the Compromise of 1850, beginning the state’s long reign as the most powerful economic and political force in the far West.

    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/california-becomes-the-31st-state-in-record-time
     
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    the_shootist The war is here on our doorstep! Midas Member Site Supporter ++

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    All things considered California was a mistake! Gold is now considered a useless relic and we can get our oranges from FL! CA has become much more trouble than it's worth.
     
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  12. michael59

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    Section 1 .  All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights.  Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

    Notice it says all people. The California charter makes no distinction and just like Oregon has a pro immigration or rather a "It shall not be prohibited." I think California's Constitution has one also but I am assuming so because I just ain't gona go look for it.

    I can offer no answers but it looks like the FED is up against things that need to be changed and I think California is just not up to the challenge.
     
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  13. Libertaurum

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    Hear, hear.
     
  14. GOLDZILLA

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    If the bum payments go away, they wont come here anymore --- wall or not.
     
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    I wonder who actually owns the land along the border that a wall would be built on.....private..state...feds...and how long acquisition would take considering legal battles etc
     

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