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Discussion in 'Real Estate & Other Investments' started by Hystckndle, Jan 14, 2013.



  1. gringott

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    Thanks for sharing, nice to see joe six pack from the 1800's. He kind of looks like the guy down the street.
     
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    Thanks Search,
    very much looking forward to it.
    I stumbled across some cool tinted images today on the web.
    They sold at an auction a few years ago.
    I wish I had been involved, a few of them are very nice. 2727b-88-daguerreotype-auction.jpg 2727b-87-daguerreotype-auction.jpg 2727b-91-daguerreotype-auction.jpg 2727b-130-daguerreotype-auction.jpg
     
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    Just a few occupational types
    NOTE:
    Chap at the bottom is holding a brush with some really small little
    tins of materials that look like water colors.
    They are actually the tinting materials, very similar to water colors, that would be applied to a plate to enhance the color of ones cheeks and clothes or purse etc.
    08.12.12.13_525.jpg 08.12.12.14_525.jpg 08.12.12.15_525.jpg 08.12.12.16_525.jpg
     
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    Been night shifting and performing some side action.
    Like waving a beeeg American flag on the interstate. I highly recommend it.
    There are some good people in this country.
    They, and their families, built the arena that snowflakes occupy and are now complaining about.
    We interrupt this daguerreotype thread with a digital image from Central Florida.
    Interstate 4 , a walkover between Daytona and Orlando.
    TRUTH is HARD WORK.
    JMHO
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    Added a few images to my humble collection.
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    Ebay purchases.
    Did ok the last week or so.
    Looking forward to receiving this one in the mail. s-l1600 (1).jpg
     
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    A few recent additions: 1116_18.jpg s-l1600 (6).jpg
     
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    Recent acquisition.
    I was on a website of a guy who has his own on line auctions.
    Non Ebay stuff.
    This image was there of a Gold Miner or Gold Era business / trading cat.
    Guy has the belt of a known distributor of mining supplies,
    has the look of a guy in a known book about the era ( will post a pic and you make the choice--lol )
    and he is holding his jacket open.
    Does he have a pouch in there or is he showing off his belt ?
    Lots of questions on this one. lot13.jpg
    lot13b.jpg
     
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    Another practitioner I take notice of when I see their name is " Williamson"
    They were well versed in the practice of the technicalities and the artistic aspects of the early years.
    Ahead of their time. 3056WilliamsonKids1A(1)_1486585352782.JPG
     
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    This one, a hunter and his dog, was on Ebay with no takers,
    then I saw it on another website and it had sold.
    Nice rural image ! 3377hunterdog2_orig.jpg 3377hunterdog1-200_orig.jpg
     
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    I had not seen this thread, me thinks.
    These are captivating to say the least.
    I knew but did not know Dags, until I metal detected 12 in a stack 4" deep in the soil, glass frames and all.
    Most frames were heavily damaged, cloth gone, "cardboard" spacers still tough but junk, and images were DARK.
    So I gave them all a swim, in E-Z-Est silver cleaner, actually dripped over surface and rinsed with distilled.
    F-ing amazing recovery of lost dags.
    Been 5 years I left them wrapped without glass in cloth.
    Yes darkened a bit, but E-Z-Est "damage" not visible and not suspected to occur anyway.
    So I taped & glassed 'em up and am looking and buying matching used frames on eBad.
    The dead guy, 95% certain, is Cavanaugh, Gov. of Maine.
    Knowing history this would make these dags on the edge of the new technology.
    His father was RICH boat builder, Damariscotta/Newcastle ME & lived in Newcastle where dags found.
    Have 3 of him dead as a doornail.
    Best one is the Irish wolfhound, my avatar, on the sofa just because it is a doggie & uncle raised champion irish wolfhounds.
    I have detected two separate dags since and in far more worn condition, no glass, no frames.
    If ever one has heard a photo captures a soul, take a look and sometimes one shivers, mostly smiles though.
    Go ahead, buy a total junk dag an E-Z-Est 5 oz for $5 and try it out.
    Don't be keeping the stick in your arse uppity dags society history preservation bullshit.
    The ones I "saved" were done, now will be enjoyed by many I hope.
    Trying to prove it is Gov. Cavanaugh, but can only find paintings as reference, and he does not look so... DEAD.
    Cheers !
    IMG_7944.JPG IMG_7945.JPG IMG_7943.JPG
     
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    Thanks for the reply Stag.
    Totally cool story and some really great images
    you have found.
    Appreciate the addition to the thread.
    I am missing the part above
    " don't be keeping the stick in your arse uppity dags society history preservation bullshit "
    Comment you made though....
    can ya ' splain that one a little better ?
    Cool pics you have attached !
    Talk a little later.
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    Oh my information seeking in regards to rescuing the dags was met with, let's say "resistance".
    As the ones I found were not in-home stored, or even dirt floor basement, plain Maine acidic soil and
    "If you don't like it, wait a minute, the weather will change" for 100+ years... at least.
    I had to shrug off the rigid "One must do as is said must be done" horsepucky dag worshippers may present.
    With all to lose but 95% to gain I took modern chemical tech and applied.
    So, shunned if I said I did, or praised if I do not, as they look great and have been rescued.
    Take the risk if need be and avoid losing what may already be lost... by following "rules".
    I ditched archeology in college for that reason and then college totally.
    To gain only what is within accepted parameters instilled upon oneself... you must be kidding.
    Why else would the majority be launching the Titanic lifeboats with supplies and NO people.
    Well trained I dare say.
    Play on, such sweet music, 'till the end doth present itself unto the blind who can see.
     
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    Hey Stag...
    Totally cool post.
    Totally...I am at the coffee shop and will write more
    " in your general direction "... a little later.
    Regards sir,
     
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    Hey Stag,
    Can ya PM the names of the folks ya talked to ?
    Im in that " society " too and have been for some time ....and I was turned off by some of their ...lets say " attitudes "....
    I have spent many years not talking to but a few of the folks.
    Regardless...total score there.
    I would guess where you found them would also come into play with some research and also some intel on the other ones in the lot.
    Who is the lady ? Etc etc.
    Dunno how many images there are of the cat.
    I know a guy who is not neccesarily a society " favorite " who lives up your way too who might could help you with some advice if you ever wanted to sell them.
    Or...you could just list them on Ebay for some super high price and see what floats to the top.
    Lots of people have dipped them in the past.
    Its not like its something no one has done.
    Another method is clear ammonia in an aluminum pan.
    You might try that on some others.
    Thats what I use and have good results.
    Good on you on the distilled rinse.
    I use a hairdryer also to blow the water off
    to not get a water mark stain.
    Very cool story Stag.
    3 images of the same deceased guy is something I have never seen.
    Thanks for posting.
    Ohhhh....also....
    Do you have glass on them ?
    The images on the plate are delicate like
    the wing on a butterfly.
    Very succeptable to wipes or fingerprints or anything
    brushing against them.
    But thats stuff you have probably heard so I will shut up.
    Yeah...nothing to lose...black images....is an interesting position to be in with these ones.
    How the hey ya think they were left of buried there ????
    Regards,
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    Hey there stag, I know what you mean – resistance. Like the type of feedback that I got when I told one of the fellows at the LCS that I had shined up a 1885 – O Morgan that I had because I wanted it to look better. I was ostracized, told that I had ‘ruined’ it's value. Ruined its value? Value to whom? I owned the damn thing and I wanted it to look shiney.

    Haystack – you have a beautiful collection of old photos (specialized description, I know but old photos to me). The work you accomplished on the one below shows how dedicated and committed you are in your hobby.

    Before & After.jpg
    I have a dozen or so old photographs of outdoor scenes but they’re all paper, sealed in old frames, hanging on my wall in the computer room – not really qualifying as a collection. My only real collection (besides a few Engelhard silver bars) is rocks. Have a cabinet full of them.

    I really enjoyed viewing these images of history, thank you for sharing. They make you realize that we’re, in some small way, eternal.


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    Great quote...
    " we ' re , in some small way....eternal "
    Perhaps thats why I am obsessed with the images on silver.
    Good stuff.
    I have some paper stuff...pc of my great grandfather "Julius Ceasar"...yup...real stuff with the family next to the old house...my grandpa missing though....squirrel hunting...
    Yeah...that " its ruined " stuff is interesting.
    Lol.
    Like you said....its MY property.
    So....lookit...please post some rocks on this thread will ya ?
    Ya got me interested....
    In fact...." Hey BF...if ya got some rocks...post some pics..otherwise...didn' t happen "
    Lol....i'm killin myself over here...
    :)
     
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    Ha. The problem with rocks is that the photos do not convey only about 10% of the beauty within the rock. But, ok, I'll try. Give me a few.
    The quote you like there (thanks, BTW) I thunk it up on my own, right there while I was writing the post. heh

    good stuff there, stack
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    Ok, stack, its your thread.

    My favorite mineral is probably Fluorite - it come in so many different configurations
    Fluorite - 4.jpg
    The specimen is 4X6X2 inches and is coated with an iron pyrites druze.

    These are most of my fossil collection
    Fossils level.jpg

    These are tourmaline - the four in the front group. That black/blue piece there beside them is a quartz crystal coated with tungsten, if I remember right.
    Tourmaline Series.jpg

    The next two are one of levels in my display case.
    Minerals 478.jpg Minerals 491.jpg
    Do you approve?

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    And there is tue problem with photography of many kinds.
    Gotta agree there.
    And I guess its why they " enhance " stuff so much now to try and give it extra extrs extra attention.
    Totally over the top cool pics those are.
    I am headed ( late ) to the coffee shop.
    Back later to yack about " rocks " .
    :)
     
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    This is one of the totally coolest and intriguing images I have ever come across.
    I would like to see it in person.
    These guys...they were " Rangers " during the Gold Rush.
    If I can find a link and story to post about them I will right here.
    They hunted , Walker Texas Ranger style, outlaws and vagabonds etc.
    Totally cool. Reading about them...I am torn between were they " good " guys or something else ?!?!???

    EDIT TO ADD:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Love_(lawman)
    I believe this is the cat in the middle

    http://articles.latimes.com/2006/nov/12/local/me-then12

    Lots of stuff about the guy. Harry Love California Ranger
    A different world it was then...
    Or maybe not when you watch the o clock news and see
    " who's shootin who ! "

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    Gotta find some Canyon Daguerreotypes to post.
    The rocks are totally cool.
    When I was a kid I had the little box segmented in small little squares with my proudly placed
    examples glued in each space and marked.
    Huh...come to think...perhaps I still have it...maybe not but I also had
    some ones you can get at the tourist stops..." See Rock City " etc.
    Always been crazy about rocks.
    Thats a really nice display case there BF. Really nice.
    Thanks for taking the time to post them.
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    Has been to long to recall those individuals.
    I do remember speaking with a man in NH who professionally cleans dags.
    I emailed a before photo of them and he said, paraphrased, to far gone.

    Yah ! Who is that lady ?
    I am suspicious that the two young women with mom dags were all shot same day.
    The woman with pet and cleavage, was one of daughters but taken later, Victorian era?
    Yes, location was and is, a key factor in regards to ID.
    Before sales I would need to know as much about them as possible.
    I would be interested in sales of 2 of Gov. Kavanaugh when proof was put forth.
    Most likely to State/museum/historical society for others to enjoy.
    Return to family possibly others, family still around but no longer rich... rumor.
    They gave house to state or town or historical society because could or would not maintain.

    Dags are Filmoplast P 90, special art glassed, on the 2 level window sill above the sink.
    I say hi every day, to those lost, but now found.
    How and why, left behind or buried, lost or hidden the questions never ends.
    I intend to tour the house, which seems never open for tours.
    I'd pay $20 just to see the couch the Irish Wolfhound was on, if even there.

    Who is the dark dag "dealer" ha!
    My glance on eBad years ago said ID and or animals were top dollar.
    Woof.
     
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    Glad to oblige, Mr Stack. Good thing I had some pics on hand (and was able to locate them). The display case itself was one of my tinkerin projects, a Goodwill find that needed some TLC (and a little new glass, and shelves, and lights, and refinishing, and...) heh.

    Thanks, I appreciate the accolades.

    One day I may start a thread on rock (crystal, fossils) collections. Just too much work right now at the start of outdoor tinkerin season.

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    Oh yeah.
    Known individuals and dogs are a big deal man.
    Totally cool.
    Still interested in how you came across them that day detecting. But if you dont wanna say thats cool too.

    Yeah, I think onna the guys who I still talk is the guy in NH.
    He is a bit of an outside circle in the society and he is.the bomb as far as knowledge.

    If you could tour the house and it was the same sofa that hound is on would not that be a total hoot !!?!?!?!?!?

    Only image i can find of the gov is this one.
    Have you got any others ?
     
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    I agree about everyone at the studio at the same time,
    Kids connected to mom theory.
    Seeing if there is an image of the mom and wife of the gov would he cool.
    Sounds like you are on it though.
    Seems to me...museum glass and filmoplast will seal the air and protect from further corrosion.
    Again...amazing find.
     
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    There was bulldozing being performed, access was questionable, but some of us enjoy rescuing.
    At the edge where a tree had been pushed over, as only where destruction was I looked.
    Only <25yrds from where dag was taken, over the stone wall, and 1/10 mile from where buried.
    Guy never married, says history, suspect boyfriend is the other guy in dags.
    Brother disappeared in shipping to far east on boat father built.
    I can only imagine what else could be there.
    Probably nighthawk scrubbed property, in years before historically registered, which was recently.

    I do have 13 not twelve. It is of a painting of two girls. Maybe the two w/mom when younger and no dags yet.
    This one after E-Z-Est cleaner showed almost nothing, as when I found it.
    But a little time and possibly sunlight I exposed it to...
    Will upload, server saying shots to dense.
     
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    Hello BF,
    No sweat on the thread content.
    Short answer is " no " on the cast iron toys collectors.
    And
    Something I do not have much of a clue about they are.
    I did a search on them and saw there is even some heavy metal type band named " Diecast "
    and I had to chuckle.
    Cool stuff...but that is one rabbit hole I need to stay away from....I have enough of them going right now.
    :)
    Regards, BF, I will also go and check out the link and thread you started.
     
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    This was found in separate town, random dag in a field.
    I did find spoon and buckle in same field 100' x 70'.
    I say field as it is acres but small section mowed.
    Dag was bent & balled, looks like it went drag racing on its face.
    But, when AM or PM or kerosene lantern light one can see her seated, traditional dress, hands on legs, no smile.
    Wish I could pop her out.
    The other I found one was fire exposed and a no go for image recovery. Separate location.
    I am ready to find more and know what the detector says when one is there.
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