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Decision time for FBI on Clinton

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  1. Scorpio

    Scorpio Скорпион Founding Member Board Elder Site Mgr Site Supporter ++

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    Decision time for FBI on Clinton

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    The Hill

    Julian Hattem 7 hrs ago


    The FBI investigation swirling around Hillary Clinton's presidential run appears to have entered the final stages.

    Many of the former secretary of State's key aides have been interviewed over the course of the last month, and Clinton herself is expected to answer investigators' questions about her use of a private email server in the coming days or weeks.

    Former officials and legal experts say that Clinton's testimony will likely be the final puzzle piece for federal prosecutors and FBI investigators as they decide whether to file any charges over her use of a personal email server.

    "This certainly sends the signal that they are nearing an end to their investigation," said Steven Levin, a former federal prosecutor and current partner at the law firm Levin & Curlett.

    Though FBI officials have said Clinton is not the target of the probe, they would want to be as prepared as possible before going in to interview her, Levin said.

    "Typically, the way we structure investigations when I was a federal prosecutor is that we would seek to interview the target last," he said.

    "As you begin to interview people who are extremely close to the target of an investigation - people who are considered confidantes ... you typically interview those people towards the final stages of the investigation," he added. "So that way if they tell you something that is contrary to something you've already learned, you can immediately challenge them on that information."

    The end of the investigation would be a relief for Clinton and her allies, who have faced questions for months over her exclusive use of a personal server while serving as secretary of State.

    Though her rival in the Democratic primary, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), has vehemently refused to attack her over the email issue, Republicans are sure to use it against her in the general election.

    For Clinton, the stakes of the final interview will be high.

    "There's a lot of jeopardy that is going to happen in this interview. It's very high stakes," said Matthew Whitaker, a former U.S. attorney who now leads a watchdog group called the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust.

    The trick for Clinton, he said, will be to make sure that her story lines up with the testimony provided by her aides.

    "They're only going to ask her questions that they know the answers to already," he said.

    Attorney General Loretta Lynch and FBI Director James Comey have both denied that they are seeking to wrap up the investigation by this summer's political conventions, or any other point on the political calendar.

    But the bureau's accelerating pace suggests that it is well aware of the ticking clock of the campaign season; many doubt that the case would drag on for much longer without a resolution of some sort.

    If prosecutors wanted to press ahead with an indictment, they may have their work cut out for them.

    In Clinton's case, none of the more than 2,000 emails now considered classified on her system were marked as such at the time they were sent, complicating the question of whether she or her allies broke the law.

    "Was this simply a sloppy handling of documents, or was it knowing and intentional mishandling of classified information?" asked Barry Pollack, a lawyer at Miller & Chevalier who previously defended convicted CIA leaker Jeffrey Sterling.

    Since none of the documents were marked as classified at the time, Pollack said, prosecutors would either need to find a clear pattern of Clinton or her aides sending emails with obviously sensitive information, or else prove that the system was created to circumvent existing rules.

    Multiple media outlets have reported that federal officials have yet to find any evidence that Clinton intended to violate the law.

    Still, that might not necessarily get her off the hook from some misdemeanor charges, according to national security lawyer Bradley Moss.

    "[T]he extent to which the person intended to remove classified documents is irrelevant," he said in an email to The Hill. "All that matters for strict legal purposes of culpability is whether the person, by virtue of their official position, came into possession of classified information and affirmatively removed the information to an unauthorized location (i.e., the private server). "

    "Whether the person knew or suspected the information was classified is irrelevant."

    Other legal experts questioned the claim, hinting at the legal minefield that could await any potential criminal case.

    The FBI did not respond to an inquiry about the investigation. A spokesman with the U.S Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, which is reportedly assisting in the case, declined to comment.

    In addition to the interviews, federal investigators will have reams of files to go through.

    It remains unclear whether officials have managed to recover any of the roughly 30,000 emails that Clinton deleted from her machine, claiming they were personal. If they did, the messages could provide a treasure trove of information.

    Bryan Pagliano, the IT specialist believed to have help set up and maintained Clinton's server, was granted immunity in exchange for his help with the investigation.

    Whatever the outcome of the case, the political controversy over Clinton's email setup is unlikely to subside.

    Even if the Justice Department comes up empty, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits are currently making their way through the courts, and are likely to shed additional light on Clinton's setup for months to come.

    Over the next two months, at least six current or former aides to Clinton will be asked to give depositions as part of those cases, which are being led by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch. Clinton herself could be asked to testify as well, a federal judge has ruled.

    "Out litigation's going to continue," Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton told The Hill in a recent interview.

    "It doesn't really matter what the FBI does, what the Justice Department does, in the sense that we have an independent right to get some accountability and to have the FOIA law vindicated."

    Republicans, for their part, show no signs of letting up.

    "Hillary Clinton's reckless attempt to skirt government transparency laws with her secret email server jeopardized our national security by exposing classified information on more than two thousand occasions," Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said in a statement on Friday.

    "Clinton's irresponsible behavior as secretary of State and her deliberate attempts to mislead the American people show she lacks the judgment and character to be president."

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/decision-time-for-fbi-on-clinton/ar-BBsLxJb?li=BBnbcA1
     
  2. Goldhedge

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    I'm sure the stories all line up. They've had over a year to rehearse their lines.


    Nothing will happen to her. This investigation is an exercise in lip service to give the appearance of protocol.




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    solarion Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    ...and that neatly sums up the article. Each and every time Hillary has been busted with her corrupt hand in the cookie jar she's gone right back to the "duh I'm just a dumb grrrrl" defense. "Look, I made a mistake!" Scary that anyone would actually consider her even the least bit credible at this point. She sidesteps FOIA requests by combining her personal emails with her SOS email business on a private server, has her co-conspirators strip the top secret headers so she has later plausible deniability, and then when she's finally busted she deletes nearly everything on the basis that her yoga discussions are her own private business.

    This isn't ignorance of the law or poor judgment, it's blatant pre-meditated treason.

    "What like with a cloth or something???" Unreal. That anyone would actually vote for this career criminal is all the proof one needs that a whole lot of people are dumb as rocks.

     
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    Unreal indeed.
     
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    QWAK,Just like all the corrupt bankers she will NOT go to jail or be punished!:thumbs down:

    She knows about all the corruption on all sides and Will/would spill the beans on all of them!:thumbs down:

    the DUCK :winks2:
     
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    Don't watch her hands that she moves when she talks. It's a way she likes to divert attention from the words she is saying. Then she goes round and round in circles like every other guilty person. If she was not hiding anything she would answer the questions straight up.
     
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    She'll "fall" hit her head & remember NOTHING.
     
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    Well, it's going to unfold like an onion, layer by layer, until the core is exposed and she cries.
    She's a backstabbing, lying, ruthless person.
    It will come back and bite her in the ass.
    I'm a compassionate person and I will say however, I hope she goes down for this, getting what she deserves and giving the family proper closure, if there is any such thing.
    I'm undecided who I will vote for. Our nation is in shambles and it's purely pathetic how nobody follows the Constitutional Bill of Rights they were written for to follow.
    I bet Thomas Jefferson is spinning around under soil.
    Don't trust government, paper money, and won't trust the new Chief of Command.
    Each and every problem our country faces can be solved if we clearly follow the Amendments.
    Interesting posts you have, clearly you study the facts and know the facts.
    You think this country of ours is screwed up now?
    Just wait, my friend.
     
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    solarion Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    "I don't believe I've ever lied! ...or ever will!" "I've always tried to tell the truth!"

    ...just that darn concussion thing keeps making me lose time.

    Hillary isn't even a competent liar.

     
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    solarion Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    If there's one thing that could lead to mass armed insurrection in this sissified pee cee nation it's sustained attacks on the 2nd Amendment. The muslim-in-chief has nominated a gun grabber to replace the murdered Scalia. Hillary has said outright that she wants to grab up guns from We the People. We'll go from bad to worse pretty quickly imo if the Clinton mafia is returned to the White House.
     
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    andial Sir Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Only person who has the balls to go after her is Trump. I'm not wasting my time waiting for the FBI or scum Ryan and his congress to fit the "puzzle pieces together" so they can bring up charges on her 10 years from now.
     
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    solarion Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    This poopstorm of emailz surely leads to the White House...how could it not? Did the White House not have to communicate with their SOS? Nobody at the WH happened to notice that she was using an insecure server or that Blumenthal was knee deep in State Dept. secrets? Some ex-cabby in Romania can figure all this stuff out, but somehow the WH dunno nuffin'...as usual. This stuff goes way beyond even the hildabeast and her own treason. The president has a legacy to protect after all.

    Interesting that the sitting president doesn't miss an opportunity to snipe at the presumptive repuke nominee. ...and they say Trump doesn't act presidential. Barry may not like hitlery much, but he NEEDS either Clinton, Biden, or Sanders to succeed him as emperor.
     
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    You sure must read a lot. Seems like you know a little of everything.
    Have a fermented molasses for me!
    You are on here a lot
    Not a bad thing, you seem very passionate about your interests.
    Wait till u see my posting about Chillary and Trumpet tomorrow.
    I'd like an educated response.
     
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    Considering the FBI's role in the 9/11 coverup, I'm not expecting too much out the Hellary investigation......
     
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    Like Solarian alluded, the gang at the Mulatto House are implicated, simply because she was Barry's SOS.

    FBI is a grossly unConstitutional aparachik at worst and at best a politically motivated enforcement tool.
     
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    This is great news. The people don't trust the govt now & they are making it worse. They better dis-arm the population fast....... like before fall...............................
     
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    solarion Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    I expect we'll see leaks from the FBI itself whether or no there's a recommendation to indict presented to the JustUs Dept.
     
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    She's going to skate. She always does and always will. Never trust your government to do what's right. You'll be disappointed EVERY time
     
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    When the FBI says she isn't the target of their probe, it makes me think that they probably will not go after her and instead just go after some of the people around here. Which is fairly common for people like that, to have people around them that they can throw under the bus when the time comes.
     
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    solarion Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Sounds like we'll find out one way or another pretty soon. The FBI chatted with Weiner wife, Huma Abedin last Thursday. Sounds like they've spoken to nearly everyone except the ring leader of this merry band of traitors. The FBI generally saves the target of an investigation for last or doesn't interview the target at all.

    Gotta love the Clinton spokescreep spin. It's an FBI "review" and they're looking for behavior that may have been "inappropriate".

     
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    If you go back and re-read the OP, it sounds like if they stretch, they miiiight have a misdemeanor charge against some low-ranker, but you can forget Hillary.

    That final outcome, folks, would be the End (capital E) of America.
     
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    "Nothing will happen to her." They will just make it go away & we will all slowly forget & she will be president. Why should it be any different then what we have been witnessing all along?
     
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    Time will tell, but I don't think she walks away from this one unscathed. We won't see her wearing handcuffs of course, but there's too much here to just sweep under the rug imo. This has gone beyond the usual blather in congress...easily dismissed by the masses as partisan bickering. The FBI has been connected to the Hildabeast so many times that even a lot of facebook/iPhone robots have noticed. Guccifer's extradition, Pagliano's immunity, the parallel FOIA violation charges, the Blumenthal emails that have been recovered. I believe we're seeing the end of the Clintons as a major force in US politics.
     
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    Oh look more lost emails.

    Emails From Hillary Clinton’s IT Director at State Department Appear to Be Missing
    • By JUSTIN FISHEL
    May 9, 2016, 8:58 PM ET

    The State Department said today it can’t find Bryan Pagliano’s emails from the time he served as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s senior information technology staffer during her tenure there.

    Pagliano would have been required to turn over any official communications from his work account before he left the government. State Department officials say he had an official email account, but that they can't find any of those records he would have turned over and continue to search for them.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/emai...or-staffer-state-department/story?id=38989504
     
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    Either DO YOUR JOB and lock her fatass up or the people will send her packing. Either way she's done.... and after forcing her way in she's trying one more time and has overstayed and she was NEVER welcome.
    Now she just stinks worse than the long trail of rotting corpse that surround her & her asshat.

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz48DNKRBeo Look here if you need a reminder......... I'm sure even she can't "recall" them all.
     
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    andial Sir Midas Member Site Supporter

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    I'm betting Bryan Patagliano goes to jail instead of Clithole.
     
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    They gave the techie immunity so he could help fry...someone. The only one left to interview presumably.
     
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    Are you surprised?
    Add this "I can't find it" excuse to all the other bull crap excuses coming up. Lost emails? Oh no, not Hillary. She Has no one to have to answer to. She is being silver spoon fed and she will run away from her ugly actions until someone breaks the silence barrier and gives her a swift kick in her fat ass.
    How does she sleep at night?
     
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    I respect very few Gooberment officials but James Comey, the current head of the FBI, seems to be a straight shooter and not an Obozo sycophant. Ever since his interview where he warned the American people not to trust the Federal government.

    He has a history of doing the right thing not the political thing

    Too bad the FBI doesn't make the decision on whether to indict. That's the DOJ and Lorreta Lynch, the highly partisan Obama appointed boot licking politician.
     
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    Ensoniq,

    wasn't there a discussion about that? Where if the FBI did their thing, and the DOJ did not follow up, that the FBI was going to be po'd? Seems to me I heard that awhile back.
     
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    This Clinton crap is all a dog and pony show. No one in government will risk getting suicided by the Clinton cartel by actually charging the wench with anything. The smoke and mirrors 'investigation' will continue until the people are sufficiently put to sleep
     
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    That pretty much sums it up. A diversionary tactic to distract, knowing full well that not a lick of anything will be done to her. This will play out ad nauseam until the next exciting water cooler distraction is thrust upon us. I tire of all these "events" where no satisfactory outcome is ever achieved and the real perpetrators of these horrific events carry on with impunity. I guess as long as we can get our frustrations out in print (web), then we have sufficiently done our part and things will change for the better.........eventually........maybe.........................................not.
     
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    :2 thumbs up:
    Well put
     
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    Yes, I read about that a few times.mthat resignations and leaks would rule the day if the DOJ didn't move forward

    Personally I think they'll stall and wait for the election. Either they are still around and ca squash it or they are terminated and it's not their fault why successors from the othe party moved forward,

    Clinton isn't running for President she's running to avoid incarceration ;)
     
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    Has this video been posted already? I apologize if it has. I hadn't seen it until this morning.
    If this video is true, what is taking them so long in bringing Hillary down?

    Still Report #705 - The Severity of Clinton's Security Breaches (8 min 09 sec):



    Published on Mar 13, 2016
     
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    if we had any semblance of a representative democracy she would have gone to jail 25 years ago for "trading cattle futures."

    congress can't hide behind the FBI on this one. Any congressman could hold a hearing today on why she should be permitted to retain a top secret security clearance. if you take that away from her, how could anyone think she is eligible to serve as president?
     
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    Let's getter done, by hell!!!
    Call your Congressman!
    This shit is taking too long cause they are dragging their feet.
    LET'S GETTER DONE!!!
     

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