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Discussion in 'Auto, Tractor, Motorcycles, Racing, and Mechanics' started by searcher, Aug 30, 2016.



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    Truck driver, another well paid job on the chopping block.
     
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    Bite your tongue. If computers are driving big rigs, then I'm staying off the damn highways!!!
     
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    Freightliner Inspiration Truck with the latest autopilot system
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    Published on May 6, 2015
    Inspiration Truck production model based on the Freightliner Cascadia, received a spectacular design and a system of autonomous driving Highway Pilot, which includes front radar, a stereo camera, adaptive cruise control and active braking system.
     
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    2015 Freightliner Inspiration Truck Interior
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    Published on May 6, 2015
     
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    ^^^^ Yea, that. I don't know what you're worried about Usury. With computers doing the driving, the roads will be safer than ever. As it stands now, in approximately the time it took you to read this post, there's been (on average) at least one human-driven big-rig accident. So the way I see it, if we as a society are "ok" with human drivers causing hundreds of thousands of accidents every year resulting in 10's of thousands of deaths and untold millions in dollar damages, we should be ok with computers doing the driving too. So far their track record on accidents per mile driven isn't even a blip on the radar when compared to human caused accidents per mile driven.
    That's due to the fact that humans don't pay attention to the road 100% of the time. Computers on the other hand are checking the data 100's of time each second whenever the car is in motion.
    Personally speaking, I can't wait for driverless roads, simply for the safety aspect alone.
     
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    The new Mercedes E-class - feature presentation #neweclass
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    Published on Oct 8, 2016
    The new E-class - this is a significant step in the development of safety and comfort technologies. This video describes the new systems installed in the Mercedes E-Class w213, and their benefits.
     
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    Prototype Komatsu autonomous dump truck with no cab
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    Published on Oct 8, 2016
    Komatsu introduced us to their "Innovative Autonomous Haulage Vehicle" at Minexpo 2016. This is a video of it moving out of the Las Vegas convention center after the show.
     
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    drunks and dope dealers will love them. No more DUI charges will dry up the jails. Dope dealers will send an empty car, the fiend will throw in some cash and another car filled with dope will show up -- avoiding violence inherent in the system and no one in the car to arrest.
     
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    What about the person operating the computer?
     
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    Mercedes-Benz admits automated driverless cars would run over a CHILD rather than swerve and risk injuring the passengers inside
    • Company said it would run over a child to prevent death of its occupants
    • If someone jumps in front, technology can only reduce the speed of impact
    • Mercedes Australia will also prioritise passenger safety over pedestrians
    • The driverless vehicles are designed to protect people inside, not outside
    • Australia is heavily investing in driverless technology as it trials vehicles


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3837453/Mercedes-Benz-says-driverless-cars-hit-child-street-save-passengers-inside.html#ixzz4N3VLhU00
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    Mercedes S-class Intelligent Drive #mercedessclass
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    Published on Oct 13, 2016
    Mercedes S-class w222 - one of the most comfortable and safe modern cars. Soon Mercedes presents updated model, but for now let's see how some useful functions work on the Mercedes S-class, which is available today.

    01:32 Active Lane Keeping Assist

    03:50 PRE-SAFE® - Brake with Pedestrian Recognition

    05:37 DISTRONIC PLUS with Steering Assist

    07:23 BAS PLUS with Cross-Traffic Assist

    09:09 MAGIC BODY CONTROL
     
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    I'd think that most human drivers would do the same. If an accident is unavoidable, most people will try to direct the car into the least harmful (to them) location.

    The difference is that a computer driven car would still be more likely to be able to stop before hitting the child. That's because computers will never have their attention diverted by cell phones or any of the other distractions many drivers voluntarily engage in while driving. They'll hit the child because of not responding fast enough, whereas a computer is constantly looking and checking 100's of times per second.
    ...and if the child runs out at the last moment? Well, too bad for the kid, because cars have never been able to stop on a dime. The answer is for parents to teach their kids why it's so dangerous to run into traffic in the first place.
     
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    I wonder who would be sued when it hit someone with no driver to blame ?
     
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    Another thing I can see happening with these is stowaways sneaking onto them to get a free ride or possibly rob the cargo from them.
     
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    If self driving cars prove to be as safe as the data currently shows it is and the ratio of accidents to miles driven goes way down as a result, the mfgs would likely have insurance to cover the occasional accident where the sensors or code is found to be at fault.


    He's probably right. Because if the media over hypes the danger, it might cause some people to pass on auto driving technology when it first becomes an option for them.
    ...and if auto driving cars really are safer on a deaths per mile driven basis, that means some of those people will likely die in human caused accidents that could have been prevented altogether had they opted for self driving technology.

    Also, no one can say the media doesn't over hype stuff in order to sway opinion. Case in point, this election season.


    Install a sensor in any area big enough for a person and write the code to drive to nearest po po station if anyone does try to get on board.




    The solution to the traffic we all hate, is self driving cars. Imagine how much faster you could get wherever you need to go if you never had to stop for traffic lights or other cars.
     
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    Going to be a shit ton of illegal mexican drivers looking for a job no one else is willing to do.
    As far as "don't worry, just write the code & everything will be ok..."
    Everything that is,
    breaks.
    Can't wait for the 40 ton 60mph broken things.
     
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    We already have those things and are seemingly ok with it. Tens of thousands die in human caused accidents and approximately 500,000 commercial truck accidents happen each year (on average) in America alone. That's a big truck truck accident every minute or so, 24/7/365.
    If, as a society, we can cover the costs of that kind of carnage, I'll think we'll do just fine if computers were only to cut that number in half.
    ...but they'll likely cut it far more than just in half.

    So my question is, if we're willing to accept the current level of risk posed by human drivers, what sense does it make to be afraid of something that poses a much lower risk?
     
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    Time will tell.
    In my limited experience, Murphy rules.
     
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    The data collected so far already tells of a safer driving future.
    At least if you want to measure the risk on an accidents per mile driven basis.


    That's just it. He already does rule. Self driving cars will reduce the level of his power because auto driving cars won't take their sensors off the road like human drivers so often do. While people are trying to drive while checking phones, eating food and engaging in all manner of distractions, a self driving car would be monitoring conditions 100's of times a second from the moment the car is in motion. If human drivers could do that, we'd already have safer roads.
     
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    I can certainly understand why Budweiser would get in on this.

    "Hello car, I'm drunk, take me home".
     
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    That alone will save thousands of lives, prevent hundreds of thousands of injuries and untold millions in damages.
    ...and when you add in the similar savings from getting rid of tired, distracted and incompetent drivers, we'll have a much safer World to travel in.
     
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    I could also see destination hacking. You don't like somebody --send em on a long trip out of the way. I can see a drunk passing out in his car thinking he is going home waking up the next day on the other side of the country. Or hack that truck full of beer to unload at an abandoned warehouse you are squatting at.
     
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    Car Makers Pushing for Self-Driving Cars
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    Published on Nov 2, 2016
    VOA News, 26 October 2016

    In spite of widespread concerns about the safety and security of self-driving cars, all major manufacturers are rushing forward to develop the new technology. The general feeling is if you lose the momentum you may be crushed by the competition. VOA’s George Putic reports about the latest trends.

    From The Crittenden Automotive Library @ http://www.CarsAndRacingStuff.com
     
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    Autonomous trucking: In search of answers

    An autonomous truck delivery only brings more questions

    Dec 7, 2016 David Heller | Fleet Owner

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    We are seeing this happen before our very eyes, that is, real occurrences of what we all believed would happen in the future. And it is clearly happening in the now and no doubt will occur many more times in the years, months, and probably even weeks ahead.

    So, you may be asking yourself, “What the heck is he talking about?” As it seems to be the flavor of the day in D.C. and in the trade publications, and following on the heels of an autonomous beer delivery, we are now faced with the development of a new normal in our industry.

    Until October of this year, a driverless beer truck would have only been thought of as the punchline at a fraternity party or even a top-notch Super Bowl commercial. But knowing that this is now a reality has made conversations about the future turn to conversations about the present. While this is all very futuristic and high tech, it has spurred questions about anything and everything and has rendered many provisions of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations to be dated or eventually useless.

    Hours of service, ELDs, and vehicle inspections are just a few of the things that may be rendered obsolete unless the rules are changed. Think about hours-of-service regulations for a moment. We are operating under HOS rules that haven’t even been sorted out, yet we now have something else to think about.

    Picture this: The “driver” of that beer truck sits in the sleeper berth for 120 mi. of a trip down Interstate 25 while his truck operates autonomously. The first question that comes to mind is, how is it logged? The answer: On-duty driving. The reality is that the driver was not really driving. In fact, the driver resided in the sleeper berth during this historic trek.

    The greater question is where in the record are conversations regarding autonomous vehicles taking place, and what steps need to be taken for those who want to be involved in the process. This technology seems to be moving along at such a brisk pace that it is leading to questions being asked that our industry is ill-prepared to answer.

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    Don’t get me wrong. I am proud to be part of an industry that is often ahead of the regulatory curve when it comes to new technology. In fact, our carriers today are so advanced that the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration proposed a rule that may reward them for being ahead of the regulations with its proposal of the Beyond Compliance program.

    Technologies such as ELDs, F-CAM, and hair testing for drugs and alcohol are so forward-thinking that carriers have active programs in place that employ these advances and are doing so without any regulation being set by the government.

    That being said, since the beer run took place, many questions have been asked that have left a ton of uncertainty in the air. Certainly, the DOT Federal Automated Vehicles Policy encourages the safe and responsible deployment of automated vehicles; however, it is not trucking-specific. One would think that the vastness of trucking would dictate its very own policy, but that is not the case.


    We as an industry are on the precipice of doing something truly great, something that we once imagined and now are tempting to employ. A future with different regulations, operating schemes, and most likely infrastructure improvements as a whole is upon us. It is our job as truckers, as an industry, and as Americans to ensure that it is done the right way so that the ultimate goal of reducing accidents and fatalities on our roadways can truly be achieved.

    http://fleetowner.com/running-green...m=email&elq2=005ad2aa9be546c1af130c4e468b02de
     

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