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EU countries could face fines for rejected refugees

Discussion in 'Topical Discussions (In Depth)' started by JayDubya, May 4, 2016.



  1. JayDubya

    JayDubya Gold Chaser Platinum Bling

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    EU countries could face fines for rejected refugees

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/05/04/eu-countries-could-face-fines-for-rejected-refugees.html

    BRUSSELS – European Union countries that refuse to accept refugees under proposals to overhaul the EU's failed asylum laws could face large fines for each asylum seeker.

    The fines are part of a European Commission plan to be made public Wednesday to more evenly share the burden of hosting hundreds of thousands of people fleeing conflict and violence in places like Syria.

    One document seen by The Associated Press shows that the fines — dubbed a "solidarity contribution" — could total 250,000 euros ($287,300) for each asylum seeker a country turns down.

    Under current EU laws, people must apply for asylum in the country where they first arrive. That effectively means over-burdened Greece and Italy.

    The plan still has to be accepted by member countries and EU lawmakers.
     
  2. Howdy

    Howdy Silver Member Silver Miner

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    Money well spent.
     
  3. JayDubya

    JayDubya Gold Chaser Platinum Bling

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    That was my thinking exactly. I'd rather lose the money than gain the headaches
     
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    So... what is the proffered bounty, and how do I collect?
     
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    southfork Mother Lode Found Mother Lode

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    I would tell the EU to go pound salt, they are going the way of the wooden bicycle wheel.
     
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    ...but...but then they might kick you out of the clubhouse?!? Have you no respect for global tyranny sir? The New World Order?
     
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    Why would anyone be in the eu?
     
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    Don't be EUsed?
     
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    Eww... EUuuu.
     
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    Eu is as useless as the UN, both should be disbanded, people need to rise up and take power.
     
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    ...and exectly how is the EU going collect such fines if the country does not pay? Greece is a classic case in point with the EU and IMF. If a country doesn't want to pay there is not much the EU can do except for using harsh language. They'll never throw a country out. The EU is petrified that the UK want so leave.
     
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    Sounds great, but most people like having masters. They don't want to have take responsibility for their own lives.
     
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    This. This and this! Solarion is spot on.
     
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    I can think of lots of reasons. Coercion, manipulation, corruption, deceit, clever marketing. I expect the trend to continue until there is a one world government.
     
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    Would be nice to watch a Brexit and then other countries have a moment of clarity and choose nationalism before they commit national suicide. The EU is as effective as the UN.
     
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    They send the "Digitalen Kommissar" Öttinger who convinces all member nations with his profound knowledge of the English language.


    Some more DEnglisch:
    Holla, the Woodfairy! To all Better Knowers, who criticize Oettinger´s english out-language: I think, I spider! There we have the salad. I can´t say it though the flower. I have to blow you the march. Who sits in the glass house shouldn’t throw rocks! Why are you pulling this man through the hot cacao? His english maybe not the yellow from the egg. Yes, actually it is under all pig and the audience only understands train station. And he is a bit dry. Definitively he has not bumblebees in the bottom. BUT: Everything is in butter! He doesn´t hurt anyone with it. I would like to see you in front of an english speaking audience! You don´t have any idea about tooting and blowing yourself! There you would look stupid out of the laundry. I am saying you, older! You are on the woodway!
     
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    EU Plans $290,000 Per Person Fine on Countries Refusing “Fair Share” of Refugees; Case For Brexit Crystallized
    04WednesdayMay 2016

    Posted by mishgea | May 4, 2016 2:35:30 | Economics

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    The European Commission plans fines of $290,000 per person on countries refusing to take in their fair share of refugees.

    This plan is aimed straight at Poland, Slovokia, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Austria.

    The UK, Ireland, and Denmark all have opt-out policies, but the UK cannot expect that to last forever unless the vote goes for Brexit.


    Punitive Fines

    Today the EC fired a warning shot across the bow of countries who believe they have a right to control their foreign policies.

    The announcement comes in the form of Punitive Penalties for Refusing Asylum Seekers.

    The European Commission has proposed reforms to EU asylum rules that would see stiff financial penalties imposed on countries refusing to take their share of asylum seekers.

    The bloc’s executive body is planning a sanction of €250,000 (£200,000; $290,000) per person.

    The UK and Ireland can opt out of asylum policies, and the British government has already indicated it will not take part. Denmark is also exempt.

    Countries refusing to accept their quota would effectively be fined – with the money going to frontline states such as Italy and Greece that have carried the burden.

    The proposals for sanctions alarmed Central European countries that have refused to implement the refugee quota deal:

    1. Poland’s foreign minister wondered if it was “a serious proposal”
    2. Slovakia’s interior minister complained the proposed “fair share” system failed to respect reality
    3. Hungary called it “blackmail” and “unacceptable”
    4. The Czech Republic said it was an unpleasant surprise as it returned to a concept of mandatory quotas which had been rejected
    The four countries were outvoted when the quota plan was agreed.

    Hungary’s government on Tuesday announced plans for a referendum on the EU’s resettlement plans.

    Add Austria to the List

    Following Austria’s vote last month in national elections it’s safe to add Austria to the list.

    For details, please see Anti-Immigration Party Wins First Round of Austria Elections: “We are Not the World’s Social Department”.

    Hungary Referendum on Quota Wins Supreme Court Backing

    The Hungarian government’s plans to hold a referendum on whether it will accept the EU’s quota system on accepting migrants has been approved by the country’s top court, Hungary Today reported.

    Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s government has been strongly critical of EU pushes to resettle refugees and migrants across the continent, going as far as putting up fences on Hungary’s borders with neighbors Serbia and Croatia.

    Orban has remained critical of these plans and on Tuesday evening Hungary’s Supreme Court refused to block the decision to hold a national referendum on the issue.

    The vote is planned in September or early October, asking Hungarians “Do you want the EU, even without the approval of Hungarian parliament, to be able to prescribe the mandatory resettlement of non-Hungarian citizens in Hungary?”

    After receiving approval from Hungary’s top court, the motion for a referendum will now be put to a parliamentary vote, where Orban’s Fidesz party holds a commanding majority. In the likely scenario that it is approved, an exact date will be set.

    Opposition parties in Hungary have opposed the idea, with far-right eurosceptic party Jobbik calling for Hungary to refuse the quotas plan outright, without a referendum, news site Politics.hu reported. Meanwhile, the liberal Democratic Coalition warned that the referendum was actually taking Hungary towards leaving the EU.

    Case for Not Joining EU Crystal Clear

    The case for a UK Brexit is now crystal clear.

    The UK’s “opt-out” of such items will not last forever. This is just the beginning of nannycrat nonsense.

    London can also expect financial transaction taxes and all sorts of inane wealth redistribution schemes.

    In Hungary, the liberal Democratic Coalition warned that the referendum was actually taking Hungary towards leaving the EU.

    Hungary’s Referendum Question

    Hungary’s Referendum Question: “Do you want the EU, even without the approval of Hungarian parliament, to be able to prescribe the mandatory resettlement of non-Hungarian citizens in Hungary?

    Question Every Nation Needs to Ask

    Let’s for a moment presume the US, Mexico, Canada, Honduras, Guatemala were in an “Amero Agreement” with each country having equal say.

    Here’s the revised question “Do you want the Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala, even without the approval of US Congress, to be able to prescribe the mandatory resettlement of non-US citizens in the US?

    That is exactly what’s happening in Europe.

    The US would never cede foreign policy to Mexico and Honduras, so why should the UK, Hungary, or Poland cede policy to a group of other nations?

    Brexit Odds

    ZeroHedge reports Pro-Brexit Leader Jokes “Keep Sending Obama Over” After Surge In Polls

    [​IMG]

    “Brexit leaders are thrilled President Barack Obama came out against them, because they are seeing a bounce in the polls.”

    Blackmail

    RT offers this perspective: ‘Blackmail’: Eastern European govts lash out at EC’s quota penalty proposal.

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    Key quote: “The Americans would never contemplate anything like the EU for themselves or for their neighbors, in their own hemisphere,” said London Mayor Boris Johnson.

    Mike “Mish” Shedlock
     
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    lol

    Wonder if we could work out a deal that could benefit both nations. Perhaps dumbo should knock off early from his day job of destroying Amerika and take a post as leadership of the anti-Brexit crowd. Win-Win.

    Sure, his slogan could be "If you like your EU, you can keep your EU."
     
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    Oh darn don't know how I missed it:
    There it is... each person who does not accept this crud must pay a dollar amount of 290k. And as I know person is plural as in gumbeyment and singular as in gumbeyment and as we know here in the land o fiat that them there dollars are nothing but portable accounting notes....I'm like "what's the problem doode?"
     
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    What the hay is
    " fair share of refugees " !!!???
     
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    I'd take them and use them for target practice
     
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    Still cheaper than supporting them on welfare and cleaning up all the bomb damage, paying extra police, etc.
     
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    Saudi Arabia embraces Sunni Islam, yet won’t take any Syrian refugees...
     

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