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Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by Goldhedge, Oct 27, 2017.



  1. Goldhedge

    Goldhedge Moderator Site Mgr Site Supporter

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    Far as I can tell there is nothing about Trump and Russian collusion.

    That Manafort was Trump's campaign manager - yawn.

    All these 'charges' happened before the campaign.

    So far, 'charges' are NOT guilty verdicts.

    Trump could also pardon both of them....
     
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    Ruh roh!

    BREAKING: Tony Podesta Resigns From Lobbying Firm Amid Mueller Investigation
    by Joshua Caplan
    Tony Podesta, the founder of D.C. lobbying firm the Podesta Group is stepping down from the company amid Robert Mueller’s probe. Podesta made the announcement at a company-wide meeting on Monday.


    The political powerhouse and brother of John Podesta, a former Clinton/Obama aide has been a fixture of Democrat politics for decades.

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    POLITICO reports:

    Podesta is handing over full operational and financial control to longtime firm CEO Kimberley Fritts, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the meeting. Fritts and a senior group of the Podesta team will be launching a new firm in the next one or two days. Sources said the transition has been in the works for the past several months.

    “[Tony] was very magnanimous and said, “This is an amazing group of people,” a source said of Podesta’s remarks. Podesta also told staff he “doesn’t intend to go quietly, or learn how to play golf.” He said he “needs to fight this as an individual, but doesn’t want the firm to fight it.”

    Fritts also addressed the gathering, telling staff that she is “thrilled at this opportunity” and that, “This is not about me, this is about y’all.” Several other senior staff spoke about their excitement about the future of the firm. The meeting ended with a standing ovation for Podesta.

    As The Gateway Pundit previously reported, Tony Podesta and his firm, the Podesta Group, are under federal investigation by Mueller in connection with the Russia investigation, three sources told NBC News.

    The Podesta Group was subpoenaed in late August along with four other public relations firms who worked with former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort during a 2012-2014 lobbying effort for a pro-Ukraine think tank – the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine (ECMU) – tied to former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.


    Two of the subpoenaed firms include Paul Manafort’s Mercury, LLC and the Podesta Group, founded by John and Tony Podesta and operated by the latter.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...gns-lobbying-firm-amid-mueller-investigation/
     
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    Explains it all really well................

    Robert Mueller Providing Lessons in Swamp Leverage…
    Posted on October 30, 2017 by sundance

    As the Special Counsel Robert Mueller indictment documents show with increasing clarity, the entire enterprise surrounding the Washington DC Russian Investigation is not about law, it’s about creating and controlling leverage.

    If you review anything within the ongoing political fiasco from the perspective of laws broken or unbroken and the application of the judiciary toward the endeavor of stopping such activity we will remain oblivious to the bigger picture. EXPLAINED HERE

    It’s not about the law; it’s not about the judiciary; it’s not about what’s legal, or the illegality of behavior; only politics. These are not legal issues; the entities involved are not connected to legal or illegal application of laws as they relate to the rest of American society.

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    You cannot view the current action through the transactional prism of modern judicial proceedings as they relate to you and me. These are political struggles taking place inside the venue of the legal system. The players use the legal system to game out the optics and narrative of political battles for ideological wins and losses.

    In essence, this is about leverage for political use.

    The 2016 election caused the balance of power to shift favorably toward political forces that are external to the DC machine, ie. President Trump and the deplorables.

    The subsequent action by Robert Mueller, Democrats, the Media (writ large), and President Trump is a confrontation over political goals and objectives. The DC machine, the “swamp” per se’, is attempting to frame leverage against actions adverse to their political interest.


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    The charging documents unsealed today are a case study in leverage and narrative exploitation. To save time, and rather than go through the entire indictment, Andrew McCarthy has a good deconstruction OUTLINED HERE.

    Paul Manafort is being leveraged toward a political objective; his legal jeopardy is negligible. The documents, and the underlying charges, are intended to make life miserable for Mr. Manafort – not to end with some traditionally framed criminal consequence, ie. prison.

    Mr. Manafort’s wealth is being held as leverage, compliance, toward his acquiescence within the game; nothing more. He’ll likely end up with some misdemeanor charge, a financial fine good enough for media optics and perhaps -at worst- some probation for not following the FARA rules. That’s it.

    Conversely, on the other side of the political continuum, Tony and John Podesta are just now entering the process of being leveraged toward compliance on the Clinton side of the equation. Like Manafort, Tony Podesta most likely will not face legal jeopardy beyond a similar outcome.

    In the backdrop to the Clinton dynamic you have Mueller putting the deeper part of the Deep Swamp and remaining black hat intelligence community, on notice to knock-it-off with the selling of U.S. policy toward gaining their own financial indulgences.

    K-Street lobbyists, writ large, are also part of the intended recipient group of this message. There’s also a part of this dynamic where the familiar tug-of-war between Clinton camps and Obama camps are playing out within the party apparatus.

    You can spot the internecine “leverage/tug-of-war” within the Washington Post (intelligence community leak) sacrificing Clinton to protect Obama over the Fusion GPS funding; in direct connection to Tony Podesta leaving the (Clinton Matrix of Influence) Podesta Group lobbying firm.

    The optical play is to create a narrative where Podesta is to Clinton as Manafort is to Trump. This is the magnanimous and patriotic legacy optic of Robert Mueller playing the role of Solomon, splitting the baby and giving each political group a narrative for their purposes. However, in the background Mueller also appears to want foreign policy sales, and larger risk from foreign policy sales becoming dangerous to U.S. influence stopped.

    Good thing, because it’s damned dangerous.

    This is the theater of pure politics. If Trump has political leverage he can execute his agenda; if Pelosi/Schumer have political leverage they can block his Trump’s agenda. Robert Mueller is mediating the battle through the prism of the judicial system.

    Again, the gamesmanship currently being pitched through the media is about political leverage. That leverage in DC is traded like baseball cards amid the upper tier of those who float in an entirely different orbit of influence from everyone else.

    Chuck Schumer plays out his knowledge of the current situation by claiming “Trump needs to stay away from Mueller”. The media sells Schumer’s claim as if Bad Trump would impede an investigation; but that’s not the accurate dynamic.

    Senator Schumer wants to keep his leverage right where it is currently, and stop ‘his side’ from feeling the effects of Mueller’s omnidirectional legal admonishments. If Mueller indicts Tony Podesta senator Schumer loses political leverage.

    Nothing about the current dynamic is factually encompassing President Trump; it is all about optics, narratives and political leverage. However, everything about this dynamic is factually encompassing the existential threat that outsider Trump represents to the established way of life in the DC Swamp.

    Toward the end goal of disrupting DC swamp-life, Mueller and Trump appear aligned in common cause. Robert Mueller from the perspective of trying to get the external influence agents to the U.S. stopped; and President Trump from the policy perspective of America-first, which coincidentally is in alignment with Mueller’s patriotic goals to stop influence agents.

    That’s the bigger part of the BIG picture. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

    Again, if you drop the legal prism and review everything from the perspective of gaining or losing political leverage it all makes sense. Life imitates art – WATCH:


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    View this document on Scribd

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/30/robert-mueller-providing-lessons-in-swamp-leverage/
     
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    Political leverage; I like it. My question is "how does a dead horse get up and walk?"
     
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    They could still learn from her and claim even though they were careless and reckless they didn't mean to not pay taxes on their income.
     
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    I just watched Alan Derschowitz(sp?) say essentially the same thing on Fox. He made the case that Special Counsels do nothing more than find "low hanging fruit", and then apply pressure. Essentially, you can find SOMEONE with some dirt on them, and then you use legal pressure (he literally used the word "extortion") on them to turn them state's witness against the REAL target (in this case, Trump).
     
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    A calculated move to protect Mueller. He's going to lose BIG!

    Manafort Indictment Shows That Mueller Is A F | The Daily Caller


    Manafort Indictment Shows That Mueller Is A Fraud

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    Peter Flaherty
    President, National Legal and Policy Center

    11:43 AM 10/30/2017
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    More than anything else, the indictments of Paul Manafort and his partner Rick Gates demonstrate the fraudulent nature of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. The probe has little to do with Russian interference in last year’s election. Instead, it is calculated to protect Mueller and a cabal within the FBI and Justice Department who covered up crimes by Hillary Clinton because they believed it was likely that she would be elected president.

    And once Mueller and then his friend and successor James Comey covered for Hillary, they had to keep covering. There was a reason that Mueller was so available when he was so swiftly appointed Special Counsel in May by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The Comey firing threatened to expose all that these same officials had swept under the rug. Yes, Rosenstein bit the bullet and drafted the memo that was the legal basis for firing Comey, but it would be followed by appointing Mueller.

    In July, Comey preemptively exonerated Hillary despite her maintenance of a private email server and mishandling of classified material. By accusing her of being “extremely careless,” he purposely distracted attention from the context of the emails. Hillary and Bill Clinton operated an aggressive shakedown operation of domestic and foreign interests, many of which are unsavory and criminal. Concealing the true nature of the operation was at least part of the Clintons’ motivation for the private server.

    The outlines of the Uranium One deal were not a secret. Media outlets like the New York Times reported on the U.S. government approval of a partial sale of the Canadian mining company to Rosatom, a Russian firm, while those who benefitted donated to the Clinton Foundation and paid Bill Clinton $500,000 for a single speech in Moscow.

    Then came more detailed reports about how the FBI cracked the case of a major Russian effort to penetrate the North American uranium industry through a host of illegal activities, but somehow the whole matter was slow-walked and kept from U.S. government officials who had to approve the Uranium One deal. Mueller and Comey ultimately supervised the probe.

    Meanwhile, the FBI’s email investigation was supervised by now-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who has significant connections to the Clintons through his wife Jill McCabe. Hillary headlined a fundraiser for a group supporting Jill McCabe’s campaign for the Virginia state senate, as first reported in the Wall Street Journal. The National Legal and Policy Center subsequently exposed more Clintonista support, including from then-Clinton Foundation operative Doug Band who wrote a personal check for $50,000.

    The plot thickened last week when the bombshell hit that it was Hillary’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee that paid for the Fusion GPS dossier. Reporters were chagrined to realize that they had been lied to repeatedly for months and months. Hillary now claims that the first she heard of it was when the dossier memo was printed by BuzzFeed in January, a likely lie. As long as this “what did Hillary know and when did Hillary know it” question is of no interest to Mueller, his investigation has no credibility whatsoever. But therein lies the dilemma for Mueller. A real probe of Hillary would mean a review of his own actions and those of his colleagues. He’s cornered.

    Mueller’s strategy is clear. He has to rescue himself, Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein and others from their complicity in Hillary’s dealings with the Russians. Mueller is creating a diversion by going after Manafort, the lowest of low-hanging fruit. Just about any inquiry into Manafort’s dealings over the years was sure to yield results.

    Donald Trump’s demeanor invites assumptions by some about his commitment to democratic values, but it is Hillary and her campaign that colluded with the Russians, paid the hit squad Fusion GPS to manufacture and plant information on her opponent, and hired people to provoke violence at Trump rallies.

    The Clintons’ ruthlessness, along with the unwillingness of the nation’s top enforcement officials to stand up to them, has created a Constitutional crisis.
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    Though the article is quite good, I disagree with the author's conclusion that "The Clintons’ ruthlessness, along with the unwillingness of the nation’s top enforcement officials to stand up to them, has created a Constitutional crisis."

    Really?!? I'm not seeing where this constitutes a "constitutional crisis". The FBI is just another department in the vast fedgov swamp. America and it's constitution could get on quite well without any such department. The FBI has proven repeatedly that they are nowhere near as useful as they think themselves to be. In fact, they are every bit as unnecessary as the commerce dept. or even the bureau of Indian affairs. Completely non-essential and borderline superfluous. Seeing as how the FBI was never even mentioned in the constitution it's a safe bet that the author has stepped into some hyperbole here.

    However, the entire Mueller investigative endeavour reeks of cowardice, corruption and other dark forces (cough, Killary, cough) at work here to provide distraction seeing as how msm can hardly catch it's breath or hold back it's glee at the possibility of Trump getting smeared by a shady operator who was probably selling himself to Russians as an access point to Trump.

    This won't really be a "nothing burger" but, it will be more like a shrunken and under-done slider.
     
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    Did anyone here really expect justice to be served in DC? :belly laugh:
     
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    Disgraced Trump adviser Michael Flynn probed over plot to kidnap cleric and render him to Turkey for $15 million - then secretly do Turkey's bidding in the White House
    • The Wall Street Journal broke the news Friday that Special Counsel Robert Mueller is probing a kidnapping plot involving Michael Flynn and his son
    • Flynn, and Michael G. Flynn, reportedly discussed with Turkish officials snatching cleric Fethullah Gulen and loading him on a private plane
    • Gulen, considered a political enemy to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, would have been taken to the Turkish prison island of Imrali, sources say
    • NBC News also reported details of the meeting, including that investigators are looking into a quid pro quo deal between Flynn and Turkey
    • There are allegations that Flynn would be paid to do Turkey's bidding while serving as President Trump's national security advisor, a job he'd been offered


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5069871/Flynn-son-paid-15m-kidnap-cleric.html#ixzz4y2zszmk6
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    Another day when absolutely nothing gets done in DC!
     
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    It happens every day this just-us....it is not about you and me as it is about the mouse they have in their pocket/s
     
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    Almost.....alllllmost......just a little further....just a few more minutes and those indictments will come rolling down like boulders rolling down a hill...(bullshit!)
     
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