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Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by latemetal, Oct 29, 2016.



  1. latemetal

    latemetal Platinum Bling Platinum Bling

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    Early voting completed....Jill Stein 2016.
     
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    Better than Hillary, I guess...
     
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    She makes Bernie look like a capitalist pig. Just kidding. Good job that you voted. Now you've earned the right to complain about Hillary.
     
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    glockngold Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Telling it like it is actually.
     
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    Stein is a reasonable choice when compared to any Clinton. I still like Trump. History will judge our decisions.
     
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    Hillary thanks you for the support.
     
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    Always comes down to the choice "voting your conscience" vs "voting the lesser of 2 evils"...

    Either way is "wasting your vote", anyway, I conclude...

    Heck - I even voted wrote in "Alfred E. Neuman" (Mad Magazine) once, and another time voted for Black Panther Communist Angela Davis - because even in the 80's I knew the system was rigged. Protest votes. (Bet the little old ladies counting the votes in the little farm town I voted in were flummoxed, haha!) .

    Ralph Nader in 2000 ("Bush & Gore Make Me Wanna Ralph").

    Then a vote - even campaigned on the ground - shame on me - for Kerry - just so Bush wouldn't get a 2nd term... only to see him roll over and congratulate Bush on his "win" - in the face of widespread election fraud... By then I was becoming a real convert to "911 Truth" (even though it didn't have that name yet).

    And finally became a Ron Paul fan... He got my votes... thought I REALLY like Cynthia McKinney's HONESTY - and that NOBODY OWNS HER... to the point that her own party (Dems) blackballed her out of Congress. Such BRAVERY she showed against the SYSTEM when she confronted Rumsfeld on the Floor... Deserves a Medal.

    So - your vote for Jill Stein is what ALL primary "Bernie supporters" should do/have done - since their "programs" overlap. But Bernie made a weather-vane turncoat and started stumping for Hillary... Threats & Bribes? I met him a few times a few decades ago - socially - in Vt... Quite "approachable" (but boring and long-winded and "radical left preacher" - over a glass of Chardonnay). Will never shake his hand again (not that our paths risk crossing again).

    My take this time around is that Hillary will CONTINUE to lead the US Armed Forces & "Foreign Diplomacy" in the push for Killing Chaos of Civilians in lands that only interest OTHER people than US working citizens...

    If you ask me which "world leaders" I admire... I can only come up with Putin and Orban... who have their CITIZENS' well-being at heart... as far as I can tell.

    And looking towards next year's election in France, there's Marine Le Pen (Front National) - who's not "sold-out" to the World Banksters... - In Holland, Gerd Welders... In Italy the Northern League - well, all those who want to split up the EU and give the power back to the CITIZENS of their respective countries... rather than being lackeys of Goldman-Sachs & cohorts...

    Oh, and if I wasn't overseas Nov 8, my "protest vote" would go to Trump.
     
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  8. mtnman

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    A vote for anyone except Trump is a vote of support for Hillary.
     
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    It comes down to this, I am tired of voting for the lessor of two evils, and I'm tired of trying to pick up the clean end of a turd. Good luck to you people...
     
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    It's always the lesser of two evils. There is no alternative. You people who complain about having to vote for "the lesser of two evils" don't have a solid grasp on human frailty. The very best human being is going to only ever be a lesser evil. That is the very reason the Founding Fathers divided the powers and limited their respective authorities.
     
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    I know where you all stand when you are voting for the least of two evils. I voted for Perot in 1992. Bush I was a typical politician and I remember how as good as Reagan was there was fatigue from the Iran-Contra scandal. The country needed a new direction.

    Trump is a combination of Perot and Reagan. Trump was right criticizing Reagan on the economy. Remember how the Japanese were killing us in the 1980s. I will never forget as I worked for some idiots back then and one of the managers tried to get everybody to do calisthenics first thing in the morning like the Japs did. He was brainwashed.
     
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    Silver Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    I've never heard anyone running for political office speak as frankly as Trump. Hard to believe it didn't resonate with a GIMer.
     
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    I will only vote for our Heavenly Creator anyone less does not deserve my vote /sarc.
     
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    Does not matter who I vote for here in Kentucky, I think Trump will win big here. However I will vote for him anyway, just for his speech a week ago or so when he told the truth about the entire global mess. He earned it. I wish Ron Paul would have had that kind of fire to do that rather than being so darn polite.

    BTW, I still miss Harry Browne.
     
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    TRUMP, because there is no fucking way We can allow that fucking, self serving, crooked, lying, above the law, murderous, walking corpse to sell our nation out to benefit her and her masters. Folks, this one is too important for a protest vote.
     
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    the continued look of abject panic in the words and actions of the establishment when discussing trump .......bolsters my opinion of him daily
     
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    Jesus isn't running.
     
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    Not for president. But, he's always running for King. Vote for Him in your own best interest.
     
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    Not running. He is King of Kings. Amen.
     
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    Very true. But He's all about free will and He's not your King until you give him that free-will vote.
     
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    All my friends around here tell me the same thing, but the names are reversed.

    I already voted, and neither one got my vote.
     
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    So you voted to destroy the republic.
     
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    Umm I think the republic was destroyed a long time ago.

    I refuse to play the game anymore.
     
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    I haven't given up, yet. That would be too easy. Just wash your hands of any responsibility and say to hell with it. I think this country is too important and will never be repeated. To give up before you're dead on the slab is unforgivable. Have some heart! Give it more time and effort.
     
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    As a reminder, my "dream ticket" in 2008 would have been "Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich" - yeah, I'm a "dreamer" - haha... & Cynthia McKinney as Secretary of State - or Justice.

    But that would have brought back US policies to the HOMELAND - and addressed a WHOLE lot of what was wrong then, and worse now.

    Ron Paul - for the right to "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" - without being taxed to death.
    Dennis Kucinich - for a "safety parachute" for the disenfranchised.
    Cynthia McKinney for being a "Watchdog for the People".

    And ALL THREE for not being pawns of Wall Street and the Military Industrial Complex.
     
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    I kinda like these plans...


    Donald Trump on Wednesday laid out his plan for the first 100 days of his administration.



    In the midst of a high-profile speech attacking Hillary Clinton, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee ticked off a list of things he vowed to accomplish early in his presidency, according to a transcript:
    • Appoint judges who will uphold the Constitution. Hillary Clinton’s radical judges will virtually abolish the 2nd amendment.

    • Change immigration rules to give unemployed Americans an opportunity to fill good-paying jobs

    • Stand up to countries that cheat on trade, of which there are many

    • Cancel rules and regulations that send jobs overseas

    • Lift restrictions on energy production

    • Repeal and replace job-killing Obamacare — it is a disaster.

    • Pass massive tax reform to create millions of new jobs.

    • Impose tough new ethics rules to restore dignity to the Office of Secretary of State.

    “There is one common theme in all of these reforms,” Trump concluded. “It’s going to be America first.”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ays-out-goals-for-first-100-days-as-president
     
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    The candy-ass republicans could have replaced Romneycare with something better all along, lazy money sucking coon dogs have failed...and may I point out we still don't have our gold and silver money back yet.
     
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    Donald Trump on Tuesday said he would push for congressional term limits if he’s elected president — an expansion of his new campaign pledge to “drain the swamp” in Washington that comes as he propagates the conspiracy theory that the election will be rigged against him.

    “If I'm elected president, I will push for a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress,” Trump said at a Tuesday afternoon rally in Colorado. “They've been talking about that for years. Decades of failure in Washington and decades of special interest dealing must and will come to an end.”

    Story Continued Below


    Trump clarified at a rally later in the day that he would propose a six-year limit for members of the House and 12-year limit for senators.



    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-congressional-term-limits-229950#ixzz4OadVPeUi
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    ...and Jill Stein is going to get that done for you?

    No wonder you're feeling slimy...
     
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    I tire of stating the obvious, but Clinton is going to win Massachusetts by a freaking landslide. My vote has no bearing on what little is left of the Republic.

    Trump could have won this, if he actually had been trying to, but he didn't care enough to actually listen to anyone who could have helped him, and couldn't help but say dumb-ass shit to insure that he could not win. He is going to make big bucks on his "loss." And lose he will, by the biggest margin since Mike du- Ka Ka.
     
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    Time to punish both parties, if I could, I'd make both parties start all over again...and at least I can say that I'd didn't vote for a Turd Taco or A Giant Douche Bag.
     
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    Will he tie McGovern...https://www.google.com/imgres?imgur...ved=0ahUKEwizrqvHyYPQAhVEOyYKHVfmB_UQ9QEIIjAA
     
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    News flash! Jesus wins...

    SC
     
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