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Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by Irons, Nov 20, 2016.



  1. Irons

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    Le Pen Takes Commanding Lead in Presidential Election Polls
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    At the last Presidential elections in 2012, a year after taking the reins of her party, Ms Le Pen came third in the first round of the with 17.9 per cent of the vote, behind Mr Sarkozy on 27.2 percent and eventual winner Mr Hollande with 28.6 percent.

    Since then, however, the party has gone from strength to strength with a string of electoral successes, making her a serious contender for the 2017 Presidential race.

    The French Prime Minister Manuel Valls earlier this week conceded that a Le Pen win next year is “possible”, with her bid boosted by the shock election of president-elect Donald Trump in the US Presidential elections.

    Mr Valls said: “If she does make it to the second round she will face either a candidate of the left or the right. This means that the balance of politics will change completely.”

    Appearing last Sunday on the BBC’s Andrew Marr show – an interview which Marr admitted in his preamble would have been unthinkable before Trump’s election – Le Pen said that Trump’s win “made possible what had previously been presented as impossible. This is really the victory of the people against the elites”

    She added: “[This] is a global revolution.”


    Under Marine Le Pen’s leadership the Front National has moved into the mainstream of French politics, winning the 2014 European elections in France by taking 21 of France’s 74 MEP seats on offer with 24.9 percent of the vote. A year later it secured 27.1 percent of the second round vote in France’s regional council elections, winning a record 356 seats across the nation.

    Follow Donna Rachel Edmunds on Twitter: Follow @Donna_R_E or e-mail to: dedmunds@breitbart.com
    Breitbart London, French Presidential Elections 2017, Front National, Le Pen

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/20/le-pen-takes-commanding-lead-presidential-election-polls/
     
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    Marine Le Pen takes huge lead over Nicolas Sarkozy in French first round presidential election poll


    Results likely to add to growing fears far-right leader could be on course for victory in wake of shock Brexit and US presidential votes

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    Ms Le Pen, like other French nationalist politicians, is a keen supporter of Brexit Getty
    Front National leader Marine Le Pen has taken a sizeable lead over Nicolas Sarkozy in a new French presidential election poll.

    The far-right leader had 29 per cent of the vote when pitted against Les Républicains’ former president, who was eight points behind, and held a 15-point lead over the Parti de Gauche’sJean-Luc Mélenchon in the poll released by Ipsos.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rench-presidential-lead-sarkozy-a7428126.html
     
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    Hmm, just learning about her. Thanks irons.


    WORLD NEWS | Wed Nov 16, 2016 | 1:12pm EST
    Le Pen says 'world peace' would gain from a Trump-Putin-Le Pen trio

    Macron, Le Pen fire up French election race
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    French far-right party leader Marine Le Pen said on Wednesday that her election as president next year would form a trio of world leaders with U.S. President-elect Donald Trump and Russia's Vladimir Putin that "would be good for world peace."

    Inaugurating her campaign headquarters for France's 2017 election, just less than two km (one mile) away from the Elysee presidential palace, Le Pen said the premises were "a stopover on the way to (her) final destination down the road."

    Anti-Europe and anti-immigration, the 48-year-old Le Pen was the only French political leader who backed Trump in the U.S. election.

    Her National Front party has been buoyed by his victory and that of Britain's vote to leave the European Union, hoping to ride a similar anti-establishment wave in France to victory in next year's poll.

    "There is a worldwide movement. A worldwide movement which rejects unchecked globalisation, destructive ultra-liberalism ... the elimination of nation states, the disappearance of borders," Le Pen told reporters.

    "The forces at work in these various elections are ideas, forces which could bring about my election as the president of France next May."

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    Opinion polls see Le Pen making it to the second round of the April and May presidential election but losing that run-off to a mainstream candidate from the center-right.

    But pollsters' failure to predict Trump's win or Britain's vote in June to leave the EU have cast doubt on how reliable election predictions are.

    Asked if she would be next to prove pollsters wrong and form a trio of leaders with Russia's Putin, who has drawn fire from European leaders for backing the Syrian government against Western-backed rebels in Aleppo, and Trump, who like her has tapped anti-immigrant sentiment to gain popularity, Le Pen told reporters: "That would be good for world peace."

    "If I am president, France would have good relations with Russia," she said.

    Le Pen says she would re-instate border-checks with France's neighbors and hold a referendum to take the country out of the Eu.

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    Her campaign poster, unveiled on Wednesday, shows a symbol of a blue rose with the words "Marine President." The campaign's slogan is: "In the name of the people."

    In a move to soften the image of the party, once ruled by her maverick father Jean-Marie Le Pen, and try to broaden its appeal beyond grassroots supporters, the party's name did not figure on the poster nor did the trademark flame logo or even her family name.



    (Reporting by Ingrid Melander, Simon Carraud, Michaela Cabrera and Gerard Bon; editing by John Irish and Richard Balmforth)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-le-pen-idUSKBN13B230
     
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    I'd love to see Le Pen win in France and Merkel go down in flames in her fourth bid for Chancellor.
     
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    The niece Le Pen is hot too. . . :2 thumbs up:

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    France’s first family of far right answers Trump call
    ‘I answer yes’ to Trump aide’s invitation to work together, says Marion Maréchal-Le Pen.

    By NICHOLAS VINOCUR

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    Updated 11/14/16, 6:54 PM CET

    PARIS — Trump-world, meet the Le Pens.

    Marion Maréchal-Le Pen, the youngest scion of France’s far-right dynasty, said Saturday she had agreed to collaborate with former Donald Trump campaign chief and Breitbart editor Steve Bannon — without clarifying on what terms.


    Marion, the niece of National Front president Marine Le Pen, is a favorite of Bannon’s “alt-right” news site. Breitbart has dubbed the 26-year-old MP a political “rock star,” devoting more coverage to her than most leading political figures in France.

    The younger Le Pen was responding to an interview of Bannon by French news network LCI during which he said he would be happy to work with Marion, whom he described as the “new rising star”. Her message was posted first in English, then in French, with a link to the LCI article.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Marion_M_Le_Pen/status/797489987583438852

    “We think that France is a place where we need to be, with its young entrepreneurs and the women of the Le Pen family,” said Bannon, who has also been cited as a potential pick for chief of staff to the president-elect. “Marion Marechal-Le Pen is the rising star,” he added.


    Le Pen did not specify whether she was responding to a specific offer from Bannon, nor did she describe the nature of a potential collaboration. An aide to Le Pen did not respond to a request for comment.

    A rapprochement between Le Pen and Bannon would not come as a total surprise, given that Breitbart has expressed an interest in expanding its operations in Europe, especially in France. But it would mark the first step toward concrete links between Trump’s entourage and the Le Pens, who have both expressed support for the president-elect and were among the first French politicians to congratulate him on his victory.

    Ludovic De Danne, Marine Le Pen’s parliamentary adviser, was at Trump Tower on the night of the election, at the invitation of the Republican candidate’s entourage.

    Marine Le Pen, who is slated to reach the final round of France’s next presidential election, has described Trump’s election as a sign that parties in Europe which stand up for national sovereignty are on the brink of reaching power. While her niece would probably not be eligible for any cabinet post with Le Pen, she would likely seek re-election as an MP in southern France after the vote this May, in which case Bannon’s advice could come in handy.



    http://www.politico.eu/article/frances-first-family-of-far-right-answers-trump-call/
     
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    The neice is smoking and Le Pen will win. I have been following her all the way back to Nigel Farage and Brexit.

    This is the cultural revolution the Middle East dreamed of while theirs only led to death and destruction.
     
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    Sarkozy would be the neo-con in France and Hollande the faggot? Then yes Le Pen seems like the correct choice.
     
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    Note how every article claims 'far right' 'right extremist' etc.

    Same story, different continent,

    Their playbook is being exposed worldwide,

    It actually goes back to Greece, then Brexit, then here, and on to France and Germany

    I think we could honestly argue that the Grexit, even in its failure, was the genesis. The Greeks got steamrolled. The Brits figured that out and hid from the oddsmakers, then on to here where the same happened in that the oddsmakers had the emailer picking out curtains months before the election.
     
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    Experts are saying "Le Pen has no chance of winning."

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    But, before France there is a referendum in Italy in a couple weeks. PM Renzi says he
    will resign if the referendum doesn't get approved which will quite possibly lead to
    a anti EU party taking control called the Five Star Movement (M5S)

    https://topstocks.com.au/threads/italy-s-double-edged-sword

    Austria too has an election coming up.
     
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    Renzi is scum.
     
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    How are they going to pull off calling her sexist?
     
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    FARAGE: If Le Pen Wins, The EU Is Over
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    UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has taken one step closer to backing Front National candidate Marine Le Pen in the French presidential elections in 2017, declaring that if Ms. Le Pen wins, the European Union project will collapse entirely.
    Mr. Farage, who has been known to harbour concerns about the Front National as a party, told the Sunday Express newspaper that he will be backing the “utterly respectable Eurosceptic” France Arise candidate in the first round.

    But he also hinted that in the second round, which his preferred candidate Nicolas Dupont-Aignan is unlikely to reach, he may back Ms. Le Pen in order to bring down the EU.

    “I know her. She’s very determined, brilliant on TV. I mean absolutely brilliant,” he said, before adding: “When you watch her making her argument and you can see her getting into it she is really good at it. There’s lots of baggage and that’s the problem.”

    The baggage he refers to is the Front National’s history.

    Founded in 1972 by Jean-Marie Le Pen, Marine Le Pen’s father, the party hosted some unsavoury characters and Mr. Le Pen himself has been the subject of repeated controversy given his statements minimising the Holocaust amongst a number of other allegedly anti-Semitic comments.


    But Ms. Le Pen has sought to move the party away from her father’s legacy, provoking a huge public row as a result.

    Speaking of his changing position on Ms. Le Pen, Mr. Farage said: “It depends what the circumstances are, you’ll have to ask me in April. I have never said a bad word about her but I have never said a good word about her party and that’s where I am with this – it’s slightly awkward.”


    U.S. and UK news organisations are quick to label both Mr. Farage and Ms. Le Pen “far right”, as CNN did just this week, moments after Mr. Farage had appeared on the network.

    But UKIP and the Front National have never sat together in the European Parliament, with Mr. Farage leading the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy (EFDD) group, and Ms. Le Pen leading the Europe of Nations and Freedom (ENF) group.

    Mr. Farage has sought to keep his party away from nationalistic parties from across Europe in the past, but sees them as a major opportunity to kill off the European Union for good.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/27/farage-le-pen-wins-eu/
     
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    Exactly. It is MAINSTREAM. That is why the majority is voting for it.
     
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    Excuse me if I don't hold my breath that France would actually do the right thing for itself. They never have and never will
     
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    You called it! . . . :2 thumbs up:

    UPDATE: Arrivederci Renzi – Italy Votes NO – Referendum Results and Open Discussion…
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    The Italian Interior Ministry says over 70% of eligible voters took place in the referendum.

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    EDITED per D-FENZ . I must have been asleep.



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    Austria voted for the Left. Could be the Huns are trying to commit national suicide. Would it still be the EU if only Germany and Austria were members?
     
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    yep nick,

    I wonder if it comes down to a battle of Germany/Austria and France against the world?

    These 3 have been highly advantaged by the zero
     
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    What's interesting to me is the media's "far right" slur might be being perspective as a positive by the masses

    I.e by trying to people this isn't who you want the people become alerted to this must be who we want the MSM doesn't like them

    Speaking of France, it's all well and good to feel tolerant but when your friends are dying in terrorist's attacks and main thoroughfares have encampments and your precious quality of life is turning into a shithole, it can awake even an idiologue
     
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    France and Russia have been tied at the hip since Katrina's 17th century rule. No idea how or why, but France has one of the largest Russian expats population. They have through out history signed " secret alliances", the last one a year or two ago ( not so secret).....

    "Aligning with France would be another major step forward for Russia, building on a long history of friendship between Moscow and Paris. In the eighteenth and nineteenth century Russian aristocrats often spoke French before they could speak Russian. In the 1890s French companies provided the majority of the capital investment for early industrialization. In 1914 during World War I, the French waited for the Russian “steamroller” to stop the German advance into France. It arrived, but only in 1945. In World War II the French were informally aligned with Russia in 1944 and 1945. After the war the Moscow-supported Communist Party was a leading force in French politics for several decades. In 2010 Russia defeated Saudi Arabia and Canada in a tender to purchase a plot of land near the Eiffel Tower. Too, the French under Charles de Gaulle and for 43 years refused to be a full member of anti-Soviet NATO. Even last year France agreed to sell warships to Russia until events forced them to cancel it....."

    Interesting article....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-adelman/russianfrench-alliance-is_b_8749866.html

    If played right, a Russo/ French/ US alliance could flatten the Islamic terror problem.
     
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    So much winning ! . . awinner.gif .. .. .. aasweet.gif
     
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    You beat me to it. The "far right" ... The "lunatic fringe" ... but still, my favorite is deplorables :-)
    I love the sound of that, and all that it implies .
     
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    yep

    with you on that

    note how they never use that term, because they know it also
     
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    THAT was when I knew we were going to win! Hitlery handed us the election that day.

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    Decent read on European affairs.

    From a website that may cause a dust up, please forgive my leaving it out.



    The Winds Of Change: Update On European Elections
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    Just six short months ago President Obama and Chancellor Merkel, presided over a formidable coalition of globalists committed to transforming the Western world, including also Britain’s Prime Minister David Cameron, France’s President François Hollande, and Italy’s Prime Minister Matteo Renzi. United by a common ideology, these Western leaders were busy ushering in a transformative era of unfettered and massive migration of Arab Muslims and Africans into Europe and the US.

    Now Merkel stands alone. Obama exits the world stage next month, Cameron resigned after the Brexit vote, Hollande announced last week that he would not seek re-election, and as of the weekend, Renzi has also announced his resignation.

    According to the NY Times, Merkel

    once untouchable, now seems vulnerable in next year’s elections. And far-right parties are also seeking power in France. In Austria, the Green Party stalled the advance of populist forces on Sunday by defeating the presidential candidate of the far-right Freedom Party, which was established by former Nazis. The result in Austria might have calmed some nerves, but it was the rejection of Mr. Renzi that most sent shivers through Europe and the world.
    In a strategic blunder that echoed David Cameron’s call for a “Brexit” referendum, Mr. Renzi had tied his government’s tenure to Sunday’s vote when he was flying high in the polls. But his support eroded, and world leaders anxiously watched the vote in Italy, the fourth-largest economy in Europe and a key player in the European Union, as a referendum on Mr. Renzi’s centrist government and as a barometer on the strength of anti-establishment winds blowing across both sides of the Atlantic.

    Sunday’s rejection of Renzi’s referendum and his subsequent resignation has created a political crisis in Italy that could spread across the Eurozone. Like Americans last month, Italian voters were furious about their dismal economic prospects and the migrant crisis that has engulfed them, as it has all of Europe. Voters were emphatic in expressing their anger and opposition to establishment elites, globalization, open borders and the overreach of the EU.

    Early projections point to a decisive defeat of the measure with the Yes vote at 39–43% and the No at 57–61%. After learning of the projected results on Sunday, Renzi said he would tell a Cabinet meeting on Monday afternoon that he will resign.

    According to the NY Times, “As was the case with Brexit, there is a feeling of us versus them — of wealthy experts telling voters what to think without really understanding the despair that stalks families who feel enough is enough. Like many Greeks, Italians feel they are sheltering far more than their fair share of refugees and immigrants. To say the country is pessimistic is putting it lightly.”

    Younger Italians in particular voted “NO” overwhelmingly, and for good reason. Unemployment among Young Italians has been hovering at around 40%, forcing many to seek a job abroad and leaving those who remain embittered at what they perceived to be an elite, ineffective and remote government.

    Experts are now fearful that uncertainty provoked by a political crisis in Italy could spark panic across the eurozone, and Italy may even end up leaving the euro and returning to the lira. (here)



    The results in Italy are certain to reverberate across a European Union already buffeted by political upheaval and anti-establishment movements. Such movements have already unraveled traditional political structures in Greece and Spain, and led Britain to vote in June to leave the European Union.

    Europeans on the continent have watched the U.S. election and the Brexit and Italian referendums closely, and leaders of right-wing movements in France, Germany, and the Netherlands holding elections in the coming year hope to get a boost from the momentum generated by these victories. Next I review their prospects (see here).

    Dutch general election: March 15, 2017

    Geert Wilders, a controversial member of the Dutch parliament known for his criticism of Islam and immigration has been favored to become the Netherland’s next Prime Minister. Wilders is currently awaiting a verdict on charges of inciting hatred after leading a chant at a rally calling for the Netherlands to accept fewer Moroccan immigrants(!). He has vowed to call a referendum on Dutch EU membership and to end immigration from Muslim countries. But he faces difficulties because the Netherlands relies on coalition governments and most political parties have sworn not to work with him.

    Nevertheless, Wilders’ Freedom Party is topping current polls ahead of the parliamentary elections, and the momentum of his movement is evident. For example, Dutch members of parliament recently voted to ban the burqa, an Islamic face covering, from public places. Like Austria’s Hofer, Wilders has cited Trump’s election as an example for Europe. “The lesson for Europeans is look at America. What America can do, we can do as well.”

    French presidential election. April 23, 2017, May 7, 2017

    National Front leader Marine Le Pen and Republicans’ candidate Francois Fillon are now the two main contenders to become France’s next President. As a result of Fillon’s recent primary victory, analysts say voters are being heavily influenced by Brexit and the election of Donald Trump in the United States. Fillon, a former prime minister under President Nicolas Sarkozy, was the more conservative of two top candidates running for president in France’s Republican Party primary elections. Analysts say his victory points to a clear swing to the right among French voters, a trend that was already visible in the rise of Marine Le Pen’s far-right, anti-immigrant National Front, whose popularity ratings soared after a series of terrorist attacks in Paris, Nice and elsewhere in France.

    Le Pen has a strong Eurosceptic, anti-Islam stance and has pledged to hold a referendum on France’s membership of the EU. However, she still faces an uphill task to clinch the top job because of the nature of France’s voting system, which requires candidates to win more than 50% of the electorate over a two-round process. Polling conducted earlier this year indicates that the controversial FN chief will eventually lose to the conservative candidate Fillon by a comfortable margin in the second part of the contest. Fillon has promised to cut taxes, to slash jobs in the public sector, to curb union power, and to clamp down on Islamists. Analysts predict that Fillon should easily beat Le Pen, taking over from hapless socialist President François Hollande.

    Regardless of the results, the fact that a third or more of French voters are now prepared to back a candidate who advocates dismantling the EU project terrifies the Brussels elite who are struggling to comprehend the surging populist tide on its doorstep. As a sign of the growing panic concerning the fate of the EU project, the current French prime minister Manuel Valls admitted for the first time that a Le Pen victory is “possible.” Martin Selmayr, the right-hand man of Brussels chief Jean-Claude Juncker, summed up the EU’s feeling towards the FN leader and other eurosceptics when he tweeted that her election would be a “horror scenario.”

    German federal election: September 2017

    Angela Merkel is running for a fourth term as Chancellor but faces increasing resistance from the anti-EU Alternative for Germany (AfD). While a Merkel victory would support the status quo, a shock victory for AfD would see the reintroduction of German border controls, strict sanctions on Muslims and a referendum on EU membership. Like most European leaders, Ms Merkel has faced heavy criticism over her open-door migrant policy. Frauke Petry, a 41-year-old mother of four, has challenged Merkel’s open-door immigration policy. Petry would limit asylum applications to 200,000 a year, and is seeking a ban on the funding of mosques, declaring ‘Islam does not belong in Germany’. In a recent regional election, her hardline Alternative for Germany (AfD) Party pushed Merkel’s Christian Democratic Party into third place.

    As in countries throughout the EU, Merkel’s decline is directly linked to increasing popular resistance to massive waves of immigrants. Many voters feel that hosting migrants in their communities is a burden imposed by well-insulated liberal elites who do not care about the consequences. Here is a typical reaction from one disgruntled voter:

    Watching 800,000 uninvited illegal migrants wander into the country, and seeing Germany allow these people to ignore the law and do what they wanted, I realized that countries that can’t control their borders — or won’t because of misguided naïve ideas about “human rights” — are doomed unless the people who pay the taxes and make things work have some say in the matter. It is a new “silent majority” that has been cowed into submission by a liberal press and cowardly politicians. Time to end this.

    In fact, over a million migrants have arrived in Germany since last year.

    The E.U. certainly can’t withstand a German exit or even a retreat from E.U. leadership. And make no mistake—Angela Merkel, still the person best able to provide that leadership, is now weaker politically than at any point over her decade-plus career as Germany’s chancellor. Merkel is still widely believed to run (and win) those elections, but the more problems mount, the more likely Merkel bows out. The odds-on favorite to replace her would be Finance Minister Wolfgang Schauble, a fiscal hawk whose standoffish demeanor would do little to boost E.U. solidarity.
     
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    Irons Deep Sixed Site Supporter Mother Lode

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    After losing Great Britain and then in the US the globalists try a new tactic............


    Marine Le Pen Short On Cash; Banks Trying To Kill Populism

    Ryan Saavedra Dec 23rd, 2016 9:36 am 2 Comments

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    Liberal political powers are unable to stop the populist revolt in Europe so now banks are getting involved to try to stop it.

    France 24 is reporting that Marine Le Pen is short of funds for a 2017 Presidential run because banks are refusing to lend her the money that she needs in order to finance her campaign.

    From the article:

    National Front party Secretary General Nicolas Bay told Europe 1 radio that he had asked for a loan of about €27 million ($28 million) for the April-May presidential and legislative campaigns next year “from among banking establishments in France, Europe and around the world”.

    But French banks were refusing to lend the party money, he said, adding that the party was facing “discrimination based on political opinions”.

    Le Pen has the support of around a quarter of French voters according to opinion polls, but campaign funding has long been an issue. Most polls predict that far-right Le Pen and right-of-centre Les Républicains candidate François Fillon will both make it to the second round in May 2017 but forecast an eventual win for Fillon.

    In 2014 it emerged that the National Front party had received a €9 million loan from a Russian lender.”

    Marine Le Pen: “They kill our children, murder our policemen and slaughter our priests. Wake up!” pic.twitter.com/FJGQFcsKzA

    — Tennessee GOP (@TEN_GOP) December 21, 2016

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/marine-le-pen-short-cash-banks-trying-kill-populism/
     
  30. the_shootist

    the_shootist The war is here on our doorstep! Midas Member Site Supporter ++

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    Let them sink into oblivion. Not our business and we should butt out. America has enough problems without worrying about the French again. We already paid them back for their help during the Revolutionary War. We owe them nothing
     
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    I support all anti globalist candidates worldwide.
     
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    The unwashed masses finally seem to be noticing that their opinions, their very lives do not matter to TPTB. Un-elected scumbags in Brussels, like the un-elected scumbags at the federal reserve dictate monetary policy and the little guy in the street has zero say in anything.

    Its been a long time coming, but many finally seem to be waking up and taking note of the tyranny that surrounds them.

    Le Pen getting in would be significant, but Merkel getting gone would be monumental.
     
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    Joseph Gold Member Gold Chaser Site Supporter ++

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    and apply that foreign policy across the board. Guard our borders with a vengeance, do business as we choose, and tell the rest of the world (especially the UN) to FO for a few years.
     
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    solarion Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    ^^ Works great until the owner/operators of US.inc do what they do.

    The Maine, the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin incident, 9/11, next major FF...

    Amerikans are suckers for Reischtag fires. Look at the number of allegedly peace loving Amerikans that want to nuke entire ME nations because DC imports terrorists and transplants them in small town USA.
     
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    Mujahideen Black Member Midas Member

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    Fed.Gov openly supports 'rebellion' in Syria; And us Americans tell the Syrians to stay and fight while the world gets stuck with their 'refugees '.

    We have to do our part at home to not support interference in other nations if we are going to tell people to stay and fight rebels that are supported by our money. lol

    All the globalist puppets will do is start wars and create massive debt and consolidate our governments so that we are all on the hook for paying for the problems that they created in the first place.

    Hopefully more people wake up to this scheme. I think this is why trump got elected. Their plans for us are pretty clear and any politician supporting it is blatantly corrupt, like Hillary.

    All it takes is for someone to talk COMMON SENSE and the globalist puppets will get shut down. All the globalist can respond with is an accusation of racism.

    I don't need to even know much about Mrs. the Pen to know they called her racist.
     
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    Marine Le Pen: I Do Not Run to Praise Brussels, But Rather To Bury It…
    Posted on January 9, 2017 by sundance

    France’s Marine Le Pen spoke to her supporters and detractors alike when she announced recently if she succeeds in the French election her first foreign visit would be to Brussels to dismantle France’s relationship with the European Union.

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    The 48-year-old candidate said: “I would go to Brussels to immediately launch negotiations allowing me to give back to the French people their sovereignty.”

    (Via Express UK) […] The right-wing leader attacked the faltering euro currency as one of the root problems of the EU and described her main economic proposals as “economic patriotism, intelligent protectionism and a return to monetary independence”. She added: “The euro is a major obstacle to the development of our economy.”


    […] The rise of Le Pen is firmly in line with the surge of populism around the globe, as the National Front leader also heralded Trump’s success at coaxing Ford to relocating a factory in the US as opposed to Mexico.

    Le Pen said she would adopt “intelligent protectionism” as a policy if elected president.

    She said: “If we decide to recreate an industry in a particular domain, we will explain to the relevant companies that customs duties will increase progressively over a period of five years. (read more)

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    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...run-to-praise-brussels-but-rather-to-bury-it/
     
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    Ensoniq Non-Black Member Midas Member Site Supporter ++

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    Viva la Pen
     
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    Her daughter is smokin'. Somebody into the USA should start a funding drive.
     
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    Yep, 'If' she wins she'll go straight to Brussels alright, hotly pursued by the French Farmers around whom the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) was tailored to suit :)

    And if she's so darned popular, why would she need to 'Borrow' money ?

    The real dope is, that if she makes it past the run off to the last 2, like her father before her, then the Right and Left voters will combine to make sure she dont win, again like her father before her.
     
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    Aurumag Dimly lit. Highly reflective Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Speaking of his changing position on Ms. Le Pen, Mr. Farage said: “It depends what the circumstances are, you’ll have to ask me in April. I have never said a bad word about her but I have never said a good word about her party and that’s where I am with this – it’s slightly awkward.”

    Which is the same way I feel about Trump (Ron Paul) and the Republiturds.

    Good candidate.

    Bad Party.
     

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