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Germany Confiscating Homes & RENTING TO MUZZIES

Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by Ensoniq, May 15, 2017.



  1. Ensoniq

    Ensoniq Midas Member Midas Member Site Supporter ++

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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    I noticed that the government agents are NOT inviting the immigrant into their homes !!!
    Do as I say, not as I do !!
     
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    I say, stop renovating when the property is equal to the standards of a Syrian home.
     
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    In the big picture here, the real bad guy isn't the scary muslim. The real bad guy is the globalist government and their agents.

    Goodbye Europe.
     
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    Ty. That seems difficult for many to see...for some reason. Like how TF do you think these serial rapists are getting into your cities?!?

    As far as NA is concerned, you have to ask the Muslim haters if they think these devout believers in Sharia are swimming the Atlantic to invade Dearborn, Michigan or Toronto, Ontario. Uh no, they're getting a bunch of help from national goobermint scumbags with an agenda. So who's the real enemy here? One would think it would be obvious.
     
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    Until politicians making these decisions are dragged into the streets and stoned to death this will continue unabated. Germany is gone because we killed all their real men in WWII and they have produced nothing but women and girly men ever since.
     
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    Devils advocate here, but, they are doing it to landlords who have kept properties empty for some years.

    The Max Kaiser had the theory that landlords in these Zirp times would rather keep rental property empty than lower rents, because to do so would lower the asset values of the properties. Which in the case of guys who've been gaming the free money gig, would lower their leveraged income.

    Its not as if they're kicking family Normalverbraucher out of the ranch to house incomers.
     
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    I think I found the problem.

    Either the people own the property...or they do not. Pretty clear how that one is shaking out.
     
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    Brits used to do it to the Americans before we kicked their asses in the Revolutionary War. Now we have the Fourth Amendment.
     
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    People could own property in such a way that is detrimental to society as whole ? The whole ZIRP circus has shown that ? And was the whole idea behind the Sherman Act ?

    Now whilst none of us know the whole story here, apart from the story that appeared over on the 'Hedge', its just conceivable that those who are getting leant on by the system are the ones who thought they could beat the system ?

    I'm wondering if it was Deutsche Bank execs having the crimp put on them, would the reaction be quite the same :)
     
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    Ummm...yes?

    Either it's yours or it isn't. Karl Marx was a feg.
     
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    They both are the bad guy. The Muslims will ensure a backwards, totalitarian way of life until they are physically removed with a lot of bloodshed.

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    Another form of rent control. Only BAss Ackwards !!!
     
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    Buck Fabian Society Gold Chaser

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    You know how this works:
    If it were mine, it would be mine
    If I wanted, as long as I didn't set anything else on fire, I could burn it all to the ground if I wanted
    It's not anyone else's right to take ANYTHING from me
    That's Theft, no matter how it's "rationalized"

    That's the problem with lawyers and politicians, they think EVERYTHING is theirs and they have some form of explanation / advice they are willing to spout to those who would bother to question what the hell they're doing
     
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    I've seen neglected properties razed and a lien put on them for demolition costs but this sounds more like theft.
     
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    Someone could probably make these buildings into Jewish churches right before the state takes them. Imagine the PR nightmare that would unfold there.
     
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    The government is objecting to some who are trying to maintain a floor on a rental market. Would be difficult to pull off on either side in the USA as all markets are local here. Would be difficult to fix the market even after what we just went through in the financial meltdown.

    That's not saying some things can happen, but not outright confiscation simply because a dwelling is unoccupied and there is a housing shortage. If anybody remembers what happened when New Orleans was flooded by Hurricane Katrina and wiped out 1000s of homes, the coloreds blew their insurance checks in the casinos and then moved to Texas and Nevada to live on welfare.
     
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    Or perhaps a pig farm/graveyard.
     
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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-14/germany-confiscating-homes-use-migrants

    Link to the story as it appeared at the 'Hedge'.

    So the 6 properties 'Confiscated' are near the city centre (read high valuation area) and in need of refurbishment. Obviously not all the details do we have, but it sort of smells like speculators trying to get the city by the balls ?

    So its likely that the city of Hamburg dont want shabby sh1tholes ruining upscale neighbourhoods, and have used powers to forcibly prettify said properties up, and get tenants in. Seems the cost of refurbishment will be met by the Owner, (notice they still use the term Owner) so it seems likely this is more of a kick up the arse to landlords letting the tone of the area down.

    As for them putting 'Muzzies' in as tenants, it aint likely, not in high rent areas an all. It also seems entirely likely that the landlords, once they've paid the refurb costs, and have in tenants with rights against eviction, will get to keep the rental money ?

    So basically, this aint no private property grab, its more akin to what the local home owners associations do on a daily basis in the good old USofA ? Incidentally, what happens in America if building owners fail to keep up properties in the down town districts ? I guess they are allowed to do just as they please right ?

    The story seems to be what we used to call Yellow Journalism ?
     
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    Private property. It either is, or isn't. If the greater public can force an alleged owner to do something with his property that he does not want to do, how could it really be considered private property at all? Sounds like socialism to me.


    @Fanakapan I wonder what would have happened if the "owners" had simply told the State that their properties were no longer for rent? Should an owner not have the Right to decide whether or not he wishes to rent out his property?
    ...and here's a related question. If you own a car and don't drive it during the nighttime hours when you are sleeping, is it ok for the gov to force you to rent to your neighbor who works the night shift and needs a way to get to work? Keep in mind that you'd prefer not to rent your car to your neighbor.
     
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    Safe to assume then that you dont come under the iron fist of a Homeowners Association then ?
     
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    Why should that matter? Lots of people have second homes and only one can be lived in at a time.
    ...and besides, where does any HOA state that all homes must always be occupied?
    ...and what about forcing you to rent your car during the hours you're not using it? Is that ok too, in your opinion?
     
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    Because the self same thing is happening in America, and some guys are acting as if private property there is inviolable.

    And lets not forget here, the story in the OP, and the first version of it I saw at the 'Hedge', unless read carefully, suggests that the properties were being taken from the owners for all time. It turns out with deliberate reading, that the places have been empty for years and are lowering the tone of the neighbourhood, and the local authority is simply suspending ownership rights whilst the places get done up, and rented out.

    Dont forget that in German Towns, the swankiest places to be are those closest the city centre. So do you think that you would get away with letting property become run down in some of the more expensive areas of the USA ?

    What it boils down to is this, if you go to any area in the world where the neighbours have money, and you piss em off, you'll be the one taking it in the chufter. It may not be right, it may not even be fair, its just the way it is :)
     
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    The law of supply and demand prevents property from becoming run down in some of the more expensive areas in the USA.

    People are paying millions of dollars to live in a shoebox in Venice or San Francisco. Why would someone let that get run down?

    Not the way it is in rural towns.

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    The expropriation is authorized by the Hamburg Housing Protection Act (Hamburger Wohnraumschutzgesetz), a 1982 law that was updatedby the city’s Socialist government in May 2013 to enable the city to seize any residential property unit that has been vacant for more than four months.

    City ordinance. Should have not been a surprise to owners.

    Translated version of the update.

    http://www.landesrecht-hamburg.de/j...d=jlr-WoPflGHArahmen&doc.part=X&doc.origin=bs
     
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    It is socialism. The city has a socialist government.
     
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    It would appear the Germans have lost control of their government a long time ago, probably starting with their WW2 defeat and never regaining it since. I'm not sure I would call them "owners".

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    The devil is in the details, eh.
     
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    You pose this as an either or question (false dilemma)

    I can hate both radical Islam and the globalists that are importing them
     
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    Not so much.

    I just asked who the real enemy is. Not a fan of Islam myself, but I don't much care what they do halfway around the world on their own sand hills.
     
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    In the Soviet occupied zone of Germany in 1945, all German women who had a Russian baby baking in their bellies were decreed a higher classification level by Moscow thus receiving more food rations.
     
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    In Hamburg it would seem not, as the article mentions, some of these places have been empty for years and are in need of a refurb.

    Sure about that ? You seem to assume that folks out in the country dont fret about what their neighbours are up to. Maybe in the US they dont, but over here in Europe worrying about the neighbours is likely amongst the top when it come to the concerns of property owners :)
     
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    In rural USA it all comes down to who has the most kin and/or the most guns and the willingness to use them. One guy with money has no control over a hundred rednecks or hillbillies whose family has been there for hundreds of years. It usually never comes to that because they live far enough apart that most don't try to control their neighbors unless of course they are a feudin.
     
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    I see, I wonder if the law of gravity is also absent or somehow different in Hamburg. It couldn't possibly have something to do with the extreme leftists in control, could it?

    It is rather nice that our countries are separated by a massive body of water.

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    Here's a tip, feel free to ignore it, not everything in life can be defined in terms of Left v Right.
     
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    Here's one for you to think about. In this video, the media is interviewing an activist to discuss immigrant housing. They then do a tour of the city and start making plans for how they will be using everyone else's property. They even have a hotline for people to call in their neighbor's unused property to report it to the state to plan to re-purpose it for economic invaders. The tips from the hotline go into a map on their website so people can chart progress. You can view empty space in Germany by going to https://www.leerstandsmelder.de. The empty space can then be impounded and taken over by the state. The German word for this is Zwangsvermietung (coercive leases or forced renting). Apparently, there are over 1 million square meters of "free space" in the area and they are not done until all of this space has been filled. These people are leftists. Or maybe not everything is right and left.



    And how could we forget Doreen Manssoon's song about my land is your land.



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    Thats good information, especially the vid on the report empty houses malarkey.

    There is here in Blighty a housing shortage. if we leave out the Migrant angle for a second, I'd imagine that there also exists a similar situation in Germany ? The housing gig is very different between the two countries, with the UK looking to be buying houses, and the Germans looking to rent at reasonable rates, especially in the cities. The earringed blonde prick in the vid seems to suggest that the empty properties they looked at were owned for investment purposes ? a point I addressed in my fist comment on this thread above. The Germans as a group will not put up with 'Investors' holding decent property empty in a scenario of housing shortage, that'll be a root that was put down during the 33 to 45 period, and managed to beat the cull.

    As far as the 'Muzzie' angle goes, I'd have to doubt that they are thinking of enforcing what look to be nice places, to house our middle eastern friends. From experience, I can tell you that the Turks who went there as Guest Workers did not get handed plush pads. They were housed in what at the time was the lower end of the housing sector. It seems likely that the recent wave of 'Refugee's' will be consigned to the former commercial places mentioned in the article from Zero Hedge ? The Germans are not stupid, and neither is Ms Merkel, I'm sure that she is fully aware of the potential for backlash at the ballot box should the recent incomers be placed in the lap of luxury.

    The actual meat of the story is that it seems the former Hansa Stadte are moving on property owners who are using current economic conditions in order to increase their wealth, at the expense of the remaining vestiges of Volksgemeinschaft. if not the general appearances of the towns ?

    Put at its most basic, and stripped of the clickbait guff attached, the city councils are taking steps to ensure that their towns dont enter the spiral that ends in a Detroit situation, and in the process giving a signal to those who would dirty up the town to increase their own wealth, to go elsewhere. Yep, I guess you could call that socialism, or maybe after nearly a decade of Capitalism Suspended by ZIRP, you'd say the city councils are doing what they were elected to do in ensuring the cities do not turn into toilets.

    As for the Swedish video, dont for a moment imagine that everybody in Europe is totally thrilled by the prospect of middle eastern 'Refugees' coming. There will be a backlash, and should the Syria bizzo ever get sorted out, there will be overwhelming calls for a reverse flow.

    Its notable that most if not all of the folk promoting the brotherly love, and sharing angle, are youngsters, to which I can do no better than quote the late great John Wayne,

    ''In the late Twenties, when I was a sophomore at USC, I was a socialist myself—but not when I left. The average college kid idealistically wishes everybody could have ice cream and cake for every meal. But as he gets older and gives more thought to his and his fellow man's responsibilities, he finds that it can't work out that way—that some people just won't carry their load''

    Of course I'd guess that feeling amongst the youngsters, maybe these days lingers a little longer than the day they get out of college. But overall its going to hold true :)
     
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