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Hey, Let's Ban Bulletproof Glass

Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by Ensoniq, Dec 2, 2017.



  1. Ensoniq

    Ensoniq Midas Member Midas Member Site Supporter ++

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    we can't have constituents suffering the indignity, so safety and personal protection be damned

    "Philadelphia councilwoman Cindy Bass has introduced a controversial bill that would require business owners to take down any bulletproof glass they have in their businesses, and not allow future installation."

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    “The most important thing is safety and the public’s safety,” Rich Kim, the owner of Broad Deli, told WTXF. His family has run the deli, which sells soda, snacks, meals, and beer by the can, for 20 years.

    Kim said that he had the bulletproof glass installed after a shooting, and that it saved his mother-in-law from a knife attack."

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    "Bass was more concerned about customer’s feelings, and said her constituents shouldn’t have to suffer the indignity of shopping through bulletproof glass."

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    “Right now, the Plexiglas has to come down,” she said.

    What a dumbass - BP GLASS is lexan or generically polycarbonate. Plexiglass won't stop a bullet, maybe that's what we need to ensure our representative's windows are made from.

    WTF does she think she is to tell a private citizen how to defensively layout his store.

    https://www.themaven.net/bluelivesm...of-glass-in-businesses-Saf1_mzuD0qK2UuImYTtkQ
     
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    phoneman Silver Member Silver Miner

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    No bulletproof glass, no hoodies.
     
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    gringott Killed then Resurrected Midas Member Site Supporter

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    She should call this the "criminal enabler act".
     
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    solarion Gold Member Gold Chaser Site Supporter

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    Obviously Bass' actions are dictated by her "feelings" rather than common sense or for any respect for private property rights.
    Given the way politicians like to name bills the exact opposite of what they're actually intended to accomplish, I suspect if such a bill were before CONgress it'd be called something like "The Safe Neighborhoods Act".
     
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    smooth Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Dead bolts and alarm systems are stupid too, they just make me sad. Fuckin Nuts.....
     
  6. RealJack

    RealJack Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    All duly elected officials should be required to wear neon colored bulls eye uniforms at all times.
     
  7. Aurumag

    Aurumag Dimly lit. Highly reflective Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Further, all security measures, including bullet-proof glass, should be removed from their publicly funded work and meeting places.
     
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    Another Liberal city, that wants to ensure law abiding citizens are not armed. If someone cannot be armed for self defense, then other security measures are needed to protect you from the thugs.

    How about banning dogs? They can be harmful and intimidating to thugs. You wonder if the criminal element is paying her under the table.
     
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    Joe King Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Of course. She gets a check from the city every week, right?
     
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    Just goes to show how a bureaucrat does not know how to run a business. They only put up roadblocks.
     
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    DodgebyDave Metal Messiah Midas Member

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    Cindy Bass says that these stores are the cause of many of the problems......in a district that she doesn't even live in.

    Many of the stores are owned by Koreans.

    I think that Cindy just doesn't like yellow people
     
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    But I'll bet you've got to go through a metal detector/screening process in order to attend a Philadelphia council meeting.
     
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    This is a prime example of why government needs to stop telling people how to operate their business. Will they outlaw alarm systems next?
     
  14. Ensoniq

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    If it moves - tax it
    If it keeps moving - regulate it
    If it stops moving - subsidize it

    As Regean knew, government can find a need for itself anywhere
     
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    Amazing how many podunk town halls are getting security doors and armed guards, I wonder what they know?
     
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    Bulletproof beer delis and Cindy Bass' misguided hot potato | Stu Bykofsky
    Updated: December 5, 2017 — 5:55 PM EST Columnist
    Stu Bykofsky



    At the end of a long City Council committee hearing Monday, Councilwoman Cindy Bass’ proposal on protective partitions in beer deli restaurants appeared to have been shunted to the Department of Licenses and Inspections.

    It appeared that L&I was ordered to write regulations to ban plexiglass partitions in beer delis, but L&I Commissioner David Perri told me Tuesday that is not true. L&I is authorized to write regulations banning partitions, or leaving them alone, or fashioning a compromise, which is the path he prefers. For the present, everything is frozen.

    Last month, Bass engaged in unjustified meddling in business when she introduced legislation to ban the bullet-resistant windows from use inside restaurants. This was aimed mostly at so-called beer delis, often in low-income neighborhoods, that sell beer and malt liquor.

    Bass’ idea hit a nerve, partly because of the ban itself, but also because of the reason she gave: The barriers hurt some peoples’ feelings.

    “It’s an indignity” to be served by someone behind a bulletproof wall, Bass said, and several neighborhood residents at Monday’s hearing agreed, saying they felt distrusted.

    Oddly, the ban was aimed only at larger restaurants, with 30 or more seats, but not smaller takeouts with fewer than 30 seats, which could keep the barriers. If it’s all about dignity, that didn’t make sense to me, but I couldn’t get an answer from Bass before deadline.

    I have no doubt about Bass’ sincerity or that of her supporters. But sincerity isn’t always rationality.

    How do they feel buying a subway token from a clerk in a bulletproof booth? How about having to pass money through a bulletproof window when paying their cab fare?

    Do they feel distrusted when facing bulletproof glass at police districts, bank offices, check-cashing services, gas stations, and even some churches? No one likes it, but who gets insulted over it?

    Feeling “disrespected” by plexiglass barriers reflects a victimhood mentality in which slights are manufactured and inflated.

    And all this gets compounded by race.

    Many of these so-called stop-and-go stores are in neighborhoods of mainly African American and Hispanic residents, while most of the owners are Korean and Chinese Americans.

    Merchants who put up plexiglass walls didn’t do it for the fun of it. They did it because they feel threatened.

    At Monday’s hearing of the Committee on Public Health and Human Services, it was residents’ feelings versus merchants’ fears.

    Adam Xu, the chairman of the Asian American Licensed Beverage Association of Philadelphia, said a ban would lead to merchants arming themselves, and making the city less safe.

    He has 230 members in Philadelphia, mostly in high-crime areas, and 90 percent have protective windows, he told me. The plexiglass, he said, is why his members have suffered no fatalities in more than a decade.

    City Council would take that security away. That can’t be right.

    “Our lives are in your hands,” said Xu in his testimony.

    Some store owners were practically in tears when they talked about past assaults without safety barriers and their fear of future assaults.

    “Will you be responsible if a store owner or worker or customer gets killed?” asked Kevin Kim, 53, a Korean American whose parents once owned a grocery in West Philly.

    That’s when the Council committee handed the hot potato to L&I, which can take up to three years to decide. Don’t expect a quick outcome.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/column...sguided-hot-potato-stu-bykofsky-20171205.html
     
  17. Ensoniq

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    There are other solutions

     
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    searcher Mother Lode Found Site Supporter ++ Mother Lode

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    lol

    A great movie
     
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    the_shootist The war is here on our doorstep! Midas Member Site Supporter ++

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    Sheboon politics! It's always about race and feelings with these people. They need to be removed!
     
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    DodgebyDave Metal Messiah Midas Member

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    One of the local banks are set up now so that you have to clear a metal detector to get though the second set of doors. Before, they were robbed every week. They haven't been robbed since.
     
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    I have a feeling that Cindy Bass may not spend time in some of the neighborhoods where merchants have the glass. Some are pretty bad in daytime..........stone dangerous at night. Whole lotta bad things going on. I don't blame the shop owners one bit.
     
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    Only a fool would. These are businesses just trying to survive. Nobody forces anyone to frequent them, so if these precious snowflakes are oh so hurt that these shops employ ballistic glass to protect their employees...why don't they just boycott them? Simply don't go there...or better yet open up competing businesses that don't employ security features. Surely people will flock to these new businesses since they'll make people feel far more comfortable while shopping.

    Instead these lazy jerkweeds want goobermint to employ their monopoly on legal violence to force business owners to comply with their "feelings". It's really quite pathetic.
     
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