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Rolls-Royce’s cargo ship of the future requires no onboard crew

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  1. BarnacleBob

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    So, are "we" better with this use of technology or are "they" more wealthier?

    Lately, I've been shunning technology
    Not all, of course, but I'm no longer on-board the "technology makes our lives better" wagon
     
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    I wonder how it handles pirates?

    Satellite driven 50 cals forward and aft??
     
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    No more rescue at sea..... ship just drives right past. Lights are out & no one home!
     
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    What pirates? There's no crew to take hostage, and no controls on board to use. Only pirates you need worry about are hackers. Sure would make stealing the entire ship easy.
     
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    Get on board, place bomb, get off, detonate at dock. Kills dock workers, sinks ship in harbor, huge mess to clean up that will render harbor useless blocking traffic.
    Similar to war where you take out bridges and rail lines.
     
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    Rolls Royce imagines a future of unmanned Ships HQ
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    Published on Nov 28, 2014
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    Ship Intelligence for cargo vessels
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    Published on Dec 11, 2014
    Rolls-Royce created this concept under FIMECC (Finnish Metals and Engineering Competence Cluster) user experience and usability program, UXUS. This future bridge operation experience concept (oX) for remote operated cargo vessels is envisioned together with VTT Technical Research Centre of Finland in 2012-2014.

    Rolls-Royce. Trusted to deliver excellence.

    http://www.rolls-royce.com/marine/
     
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    That's called "Luddite lite".
     
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    This! Look what Iran did with a US drone. Can you imagine what a state actor like Iran or North Korea can do? They'll wait for the hijacked ships to enter their waters and seize control. Don't forget in order to have autonomous ships you need to change a lot of Law of the Seas too.
     
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    very interesting considering how we are operating under admiralty law to this day???
     
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    Rolls-Royce Launches Strategic Partnership to Develop Smart, Autonomous Ships

    November 14, 2016 by gCaptain

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    Rolls-Royce on Monday announced a strategic partnership with Finland’s VTT Technical Research Centre to design, test, and validate the first generation of remotely controlled and automated ships.

    Rolls-Royce, which has positioned itself as a leader in the development of remote controlled and autonomous ships, believes a remote controlled ship, or so-called drone ship, will be in commercial use by the end of the decade.

    VTT has experience in ship simulation and expertise in the development and management of safety-critical and complex systems in demanding environments. They combine physical tests such as model and tank testing, with digital technologies, such as data analytics and computer visualization. They will also use field research to incorporate human factors into safe ship design. As a result of working with the Finnish telecommunications sector, VTT also has extensive experience of working with 5G mobile phone technology and wi-fi mesh networks.

    Rolls-Royce says working with VTT will allow it to assess the performance of remote and autonomous designs through the use of both traditional model tank tests and digital simulation, allowing the company to develop functional, safe and reliable prototypes.

    “Remotely operated ships are a key development project for Rolls-Royce Marine, and VTT is a reliable and innovative partner for the development of a smart ship concept,” said Karno Tenovuo, Rolls-Royce, Vice President Ship Intelligence. “This collaboration is a natural continuation of the earlier User Experience for Complex systems (UXUS) project, where we developed totally new bridge and remote control systems for shipping.”

    In recent years Rolls-Royce’s has been at the forefront of the marine industries push towards autonomous shipping. It is currently leading the Advanced Autonomous Waterborne Applications Initiative (AAWA), which is funded by the Finnish government and brings together universities, ship designers, equipment manufacturers, and classification societies to explore the economic, social, legal, regulatory and technological factors which need to be addressed to make autonomous ships a reality.

    Rolls-Royce is also a member of the Norwegian Forum for Autonomous Ships (NFAS) which has the backing of the Norwegian Maritime Administration, The Norwegian Coastal Administration, the Federation of Norwegian Industries and MARINTEK. NFAS’ objectives are to strengthen the cooperation between users, researchers, authorities and others that are interested in autonomous ships and their use; contribute to the development of common Norwegian strategies for development and use of autonomous ships and co-operate with other international and national bodies interested in autonomous shipping. In addition, Rolls-Royce is a founder member of the Finnish ecosystem for autonomous marine transport (DIMECC).

    Erja Turunen, Executive Vice President at VTT, said: “Rolls-Royce is a pioneer in remotely controlled and autonomous shipping. Our collaboration strengthens the way we can integrate and leverage VTT’s expertise in simulation and safety validation, including the industrial Internet of Things, to develop new products and in the future, enable us to develop new solutions for new areas of application as well.”

    http://gcaptain.com/rolls-royce-launches-strategic-partnership-to-develop-smart-autonomous-ships/
     
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    What kind of damage could one of these ships do if steered into a shore based LNG facility? A water based petroleum platform? or whatever else was available to ram it into?

    Hacking would be difficult, I'm sure, but it's possible because employees do go rogue and information does leak out


    International Maritime Law, Admiralty Law
    IIRC: The first truly international governing body
     
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    Yeah but only if necessary because at the end of it all you would want to use these and not have to clean up that mess yourself.

    It slows down the profit stream:2 thumbs up:
     
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    This should give some serious chills to small boat cruisers.
     
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    Cyber Crime Poses Threat to Autonomous Shipping

    December 14, 2016 by The Loadstar


    By Alex Lennane

    (The Loadstar) – Cyber crime is likely to delay the introduction of autonomous ships for several years – and it could pose a significant threat to the shipping industry if it fails to act soon.

    There has been much progress on autonomous ships this year, notably from Rolls-Royce, and in October Norway opened the world’s first designated test area. But there is still a long way to go, believes SeaIntelligence CEO Lars Jensen.

    “Autonomous ships are a long way in the future,” he told delegates at TOC Middle East in Dubai last week.

    “They have to be built to better specifications than current ships. Who will repair them?

    “They need to be more resilient. And what is the cost? What will we save from it? That has to be worked out.”

    One of the biggest problems facing the industry – and autonomous ships – is that it is not yet fully equipped to handle cyber crime, he added.

    “The industry is in very poor shape when it comes to cyber security. It needs awareness among senior management – this is not an IT issue.

    “Firewalls and anti-virus software will not keep out dedicated attacks. If you think you haven’t been hacked – you are wrong.”

    Mr Jensen also warned ports and terminals that they were likely to be in the vanguard of cyber attacks.

    Noting several attacks in the past few weeks alone, that took out major sites such as Netflix and Twitter, as well as a telecoms company in Libya and another on domestic routers in Germany, he emphasised the vulnerability of ports, particularly via the Internet of Things.

    “When you start to think of hardware in ports and terminals, everything has to be secure. We can put a lot of things online – but should we? There are thousands of gadgets in a terminal, and if they are online, they will be attacked.”

    Mr Jensen set out the groups which would be most likely to attack – although he pointed out that staff could be a company’s biggest concern.

    “Staff are the worst – but often through negligence or incompetence. The most successful attacks compromise a person. It could be a disgruntled employee, or a trick which makes them reveal details.”

    But this could be mitigated by training, he said.

    While criminals are “plentiful and very good at cyber crime”, Mr Jensen thought the biggest risks to the shipping industry were states, or state-sponsored groups – not necessarily terrorists.

    “Ships and ports are clearly state infrastructure.”

    He said shutting down a major port in a hostile state would certainly be in the interests of some governments.

    The good news, however, is that cyber crime can be combatted without huge investment, he believes.

    Companies should be looking to prevent crime at the design stage of technology – and simply encryption, understanding the risk and training would be critical.

    “Companies need to work cyber defence into their business processes,” he advised.

    “Don’t automate any deals worth more than $1m, for example. Improve staff awareness and technical know-how. It’s not expensive – companies already have most of the tools they need. It’s about training and configuring networks slightly differently.”

    The Loadstar is fast becoming known at the highest levels of logistics and supply chain management as one of the best sources of influential analysis and commentary.

    Check them out at TheLoadstar.co.uk, or find them on Facebook and Twitter.

    http://gcaptain.com/cyber-crime-poses-threat-to-autonomous-shipping/
     
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    Didn't I mention this all in post #12?
     
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    Why? Ships don't/can't dodge small craft. "commercial vessels restricted by their draft or by fishing gear, such as nets or trawls, hold privilege over all recreational vessels, including sailboats."
     
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    Having been around large electrical equipment most of my adult life, I know things fail. It doesn't matter how good the maintenance department is. So what happens when you reboot the system, and the system still shows a hard fault? Helicopter a team of electricians? What if it faults during a storm or is out of helicopter range? I'm sure these things have been thought through, It just seems to me that an electrician is indispensable on such a craft.
     
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    One other fact that many people are overlooking is risk. Shippers will take more risks with their ships and cargo when crews are not on board. Hey! Why not? It's all insured. Sure! Let's sail through that typhoon. We have schedules to make. If we lose the ship or part of the cargo -- who cares? It's all insured.

    This is where I think the insurance industry will put its foot down. They won't write policies for ships or cargo without assurance that risk will be minimized but how do you verify that the code says to do one thing and no one over rides it? The same can be said for human crews but there are penalties to the crew if things go wrong. What are you going to do to a machine? Turn it off as punishment?
     
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    "The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug."

    Pulling the plug doesn't work...
     
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    Clearly, humanity is redundant and we did it to ourselves. Chalk one up for George Carlin.
     
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    Here is another wrinkle in autonomous ships, state actors seizing ships. In this case it is a drone but do you think certain state actors will not hesitate to commandeer ships, forcible inspect autonomous ships or even bait their software into performing territorial incursions for political purposes?

    China seizes U.S. underwater drone in South China Sea
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-drone-idUSKBN14526J
     
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    Rolls-Royce to Open Remote Controlled and Autonomous Shipping Center in Finland

    March 8, 2017 by gCaptain


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    A conceptual design illustration showing a 1,000 TEU container feeder. Image credit: Rolls-Royce
    Rolls-Royce has announced plans to open a global research and development center for the advancement of remote controlled and autonomous shipping technology in Turku, Finland.

    The center is expected to be opened this year.

    Rolls-Royce is at the forefront of the development of remote controlled and autonomous ships, with a stated goal of seeing a remote controlled ship in commercial use by the end of the decade.

    On Wedensday, the company confirmed it had signed a significant research grant by Tekes, the Finnish Funding Agency for Innovation, which will enable Rolls-Royce to invest more in the research and development center in Turku.

    “Finland is the home of top ICT expertise and a strong maritime cluster. That is why Rolls-Royce has decided to establish the centre in Turku”, says SVP Sauli Eloranta of Rolls-Royce.

    Remotely controlled and autonomous ships will likely represent a fundamental change in shipping over the next decade and are driving the digital transformation in the sector.


    Mikael Mäkinen, Rolls-Royce, President – Marine said: “Digitalization will transform the shipping industry in the years ahead, and the time is now right to set out how we are going to make this happen. Over the coming years we need to invest globally to develop the required capabilities and to establish a range of market-ready products and systems to take advantage of what is a significant global market opportunity.”

    Rolls Royce’s Centre of Excellence for autonomous shipping collaborates with the Autonomous Shipping Alliance, of which Rolls-Royce is a member. The company is now looking expand on its partnerships in order to create the capability, competencies and jobs to supply the technology and components needed for remote controlled or autonomous ships to become a reality.

    Rolls-Royce said it also plans to carry out further development projects there focused on the future development of land-based control centers, and the use of artificial intelligence in future remote and autonomous shipping operations.

    Rolls-Royce’s strategic partners in the Marine R&D Centre for Remote Control & Autonomous Ships and Artificial Intelligence in Turku will be the Technical Research Centre of Finland (VTT) and Tampere University of Technology (TUT), together with numerous SMEs and startups specializing in novel technologies.

    http://gcaptain.com/rolls-royce-to-open-remote-controlled-and-autonomous-shipping-center-in-finland/
     
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    CIA gunna hack that chit and send it to Walmart or ram it into sum one!

    LOL

    Nice idea, will really stuff pirates up.
     
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    In all the articles I have read about autonomous shipping there seems to be one glaring gap that many proponents like to gloss over. How does an autonomous ship render assistance to those in distress at sea other than parking their fat autonomous A$$ next to a sinking ship or reporting the incident to the authorities? A lot of maritime law is hinged on providing mutual assistance and penalties for not doing so.
     

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