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Seems Armstrong is buying into the Shemitah cycle...

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    Any link to any of that material? I believe you, would just like to read it and have access to it to send to people. Austria sure is heating up now.
     
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    Bix Weir. Expects crash in September of this year.

    [video=youtube_share;RVr1xIqsiDo]http://youtu.be/RVr1xIqsiDo[/video]
     
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    Armstrong is one of those guys that has so much bias in his hatred of the Western banking system etc, that his market views are mostly wrong. Not dissimilar to Max Kieser, Marc Faber, Peter Schiff and the rest that get to be right every 6-7 years when the market turns (in it's natural cycle). Only difference between today's market and markets in the days before the Central Bank manipulation is that now the cycles are more extreme in the swings and this is merely another aspect of the wealth transfer mechanism.
    Sadly all these guys are about to be right and hailed as heros (again) after losing money for 6 years.
     
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    When do you think it will be safe to get back into the US equity markets and some of the international equities markets? Do you think it is going to take several years this time before it bottoms? Just pondering if we could have a down turn that last decades like the Japanese stock market.
     
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    1930-31 was also a Shemitah year, the year the great drought in the US started ( Dust Bowl). I find our current drought's timing interesting, no surprise if we see a " repeat" ending in this...."1930-1931 - 7th year in cycle - Sabbath year".....
     

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    "You can really start to feel 2015.75 coming. This is going to be a harder fall than 2007-2009 for outside the USA we are in a declining mode since 2007, which should bottom by 2020. This is a DEBT CRISIS not a bubble in stocks or commodities thins time."


    http://armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong_economics_blog/
     
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    You are still building up cash and waiting for the moment to move that into more and gold and silver? If the economy bottoms by 2020, then PMs will be peaking at the same time, maybe? Then you would start moving that into stocks and such(provided greater things don't happen)?

    Edit: Some think right now is a good time for European stocks because of their QE pumping, but for me I think it will be very short term lift only. I could be wrong.
     
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    When does gold bottom?
    2015.751?
     
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    No money in the ATM machines?
    That is deflation.
    What will happen to PM prices?
     
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    Silver will go to $1/oz?
    $1 will buy a car?
    That is highly deflationary.
    Hard to believe--I think...

     
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    Another YouTube economic clairvoyant hanging out in his parents basement eating hot pockets and slamming red bulls.
     
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    ""Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves"
    -Confuscius- (504BC)

    I believe that Confucius advocated revenge.
    Look it up on Wikipedia.

     
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    lol. I like your comments Mr Paradise! :rofl:
     
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    Google it.
     
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    You mean Bix Weir?

     
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    Just a reminder, I expect frequency and intensity to increase....as we are currently experiencing. Watch the Supreme Courts ruling on Gay marriage, perfect timing. If/ when gay "marriage" is declared the law of the land, the great unravelling will begin....

    "As the world waits to see what the end of a seven-year biblical cycle known as the Shemitah may bring this fall, New York Times best-selling author Rabbi Jonathan Cahn issued a warning to prepare for economic calamity, war in the Middle East or even worse.

    "I will state a warning which I have stated before," Cahn told hundreds of people gathered at the Prophecy in the News conference in Orlando, Florida, this weekend. "Whether it comes in this time parameter of the Shemitah or the year following or not, I believe a great shaking is going to come to this land and to the world that will involve the collapsing of the American economy ... and the removal of its blessings and prosperity.

    "Whether it begins with the economic realm or not, I believe it's going to be bigger than the economic realm and it may have the effect of famine or cutting off infrastructure for a time. The shaking doesn't have to take place in the Shemitah (year), but I believe we need to be ready."

    Cahn's warning has to do with what is known as the biblical Shemitah, or the Sabbath Year. During this year, according to Exodus and Leviticus, there was to be no working of the land. The last day of the Shemitah, Elul 29, is considered the "wipeout day" when all debts were "wiped clean." The Shemitah is meant to be a blessing, but when Israel turned away from God it became "a sign of judgment on a nation that has driven God out of its life."...He also noted a pattern of judgments at seven-year intervals in September 2001 and 2008 marked by the greatest crashes in Wall Street history, up to that time. The first occurred on Sept. 17, 2001, just a few days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and the second occurred on Sept. 29, 2008. Both occurred on the biblical day of Elul 29, the very day appointed to wipe out the financial accounts of a nation. The next one occurs on Sept. 13.

    "For years, financial observers have been mystified why it is that all the greatest crashes tend to take place the same time of year," Cahn says. "When is it? September to October. What if we take the greatest crashes in history. Do any of them take place at the end of the seven-year cycle of the Shemitah at the time of the wipeout and the answer is, 'Yes.' Every single one of them does. And the thing is the phenomenon is increasing. It's intensifying."

    While the current Shemitah runs from September 2014 through this September, Cahn told the audience that the "Super Shemitah"—or the year of Jubilee, the year at the end of seven cycles of the Shemitah—begins this September and runs through September 2016..."

    http://www.charismanews.com/world/48667-the-shemitah-unraveled-what-2015-2016-could-bring
     
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    There's also a video on that website, can't embed.


    Jonathan Cahn: 'Follow Baal and go to hell'



    Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, author of the New York Times bestseller “The Harbinger” and the inspiration behind the “Isaiah 9:10 Judgment” movie, on Wednesday smacked down the Supreme Court’s assumption that it has the authority to redefine marriage.

    Cahn’s comments followed by only about 24 hours the hearing in the august courtroom where the justices heard arguments on whether or not the U.S. government would mandate recognition of homosexual “marriage” across the country.

    “The justices of the Supreme Court took up their seats [in a hearing] on whether they should strike down the biblical and historic definition of marriage,” he said. “That the event should even take place is a sign this is America of [George] Washington’s warning … a nation at war against its own foundation.”

    Washington warned the smiles of heaven can never be expected on a nation “that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which heaven itself hath ordained.”

    He noted the Supreme Court opens sessions with the words, “God save the United States and this honorable court.”

    “If this court should overrule the word of God and strike down the eternal rules of order and right that heaven itself ordained, how then will God save it?” he asked. “Justices, can you judge the ways of God? There is another court and there another judge, where all men and all judges will give account.

    “If a nation’s high court should pass judgment on the Almighty, should you then be surprised God will pass judgment on the court and that nation? We are doing that which Israel did on the altars of Baal,” he said.

    “We are exchanging our light for darkness.”

    See Jonathan’s Cahn’s message at Washington: Man of Prayer event at the Capitol last night.

    The comments came at the 2015 “Washington: A Man of Prayer” service at the U.S. Capitol, an event that was livestreamed online and can be watched by signing up with WND.

    The service is an effort by Rev. Dan Cummins to return prayer to the Capitol building, where generations of Washingtonians worshiped God under an open-doors policy.

    “Washington: A Man of Prayer” commemorates the events of April 30, 1789, when, after being sworn in at Federal Hall, President Washington, accompanied by Congress, proceeded to St. Paul’s Chapel where they “offered dedicatory prayers to God in divine services on America’s behalf.”

    Honorary hosts for this year’s event were Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla, and Rep. Randy Forbes, R-Va.

    See the entire Washington: Man of Prayer event at the Capitol last night.

    Many members of Congress participated, but when Cahn took the speaker’s podium the warnings were loud and clear.

    He said America’s biblical foundation was affirmed throughout history and the nation came into existence “solely for the glory and purposes of God.”

    “No historian can rewrite that. No president can expunge that,” he warned. “If a thousand angels swore on a thousand Bibles that this was not the case, it would in no way alter the fact. … America was brought into existence for the will and purposes of God.”

    He explained ancient Israel turned away from God.

    “They drove God out of the government. They worshiped idols and served other gods. They celebrated immorality and they persecuted righteousness. The blessings of God were removed and replaced with judgments,” he said.

    Now, he said, “America has made the same mistakes.”

    He cited the deaths of 55 million through abortion.

    “What we were warned never to do we now have done,” he thundered.

    Moving to directly confront President Obama, whose pro-abortion and pro-homosexual agenda has been unparalleled in American history, he questioned what happens when a leader places his left hand on the Bible to assume to highest office in the land but with his right hand “enacts laws that violate the laws of God.”

    “Mr. President, when you address the House, look up above the senators and the representatives, above the Supreme Court justices, you’ll see a face, the only full visage in that wall. It is the face of Moses. … It would say this, ‘No man can overrule the laws of God. No judgment of man can stand against the judgment of God’.”

    image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2015/04/WashingtonPrayer.jpg
    WashingtonPrayer

    America, he warned, is faced with a critical decision, “Choose you this day whom you will serve … if the Lord be God, then follow Him. If Baal, then follow him and go to hell.”

    Believers, he said, will “not bow down our knees to Baal,” the politically correct or anything other than God.

    “Jesus the Messiah,” he said, “is the only answer, the only chance that America has that it might once again shine with the presence of the living God … and not go to hell.”

    Cummins, a longtime pastor, first obtained permission from House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, to use the hall in May 2012, the first time a private citizen had been allowed to hold a prayer service there in more than 120 years.

    See the entire Washington: Man of Prayer event at the Capitol last night.

    See a video that promoted the event:

    Historically, as many as 2,000 people were in attendance for worship services in the Capitol after President Thomas Jefferson approved the events.

    Services were held in the chamber where the House of Representatives met from 1807 to 1857, now called Statuary Hall.

    Cummins, recalling Washington’s first inauguration, said “the world saw more than just the inauguration of the president of a new nation; it witnessed a watershed moment in history when the ideals penned in ink on parchment at Philadelphia’s Continental Congress would preserve what sword and patriots’ blood had inscribed on the field of battle.”

    Cummins is founding pastor of Bridlewood Church in Bullard, Texas, and the director of church relations for Renewing American Leadership in Washington, D.C.

    Pastor Sergio De La More, founder of Cornerstone Church of San Diego, who spoke at the prayer event in 2013, said it’s important to understand America’s foundation.

    “I am certain the framework of our country, built not on economic status, race, or political standing, but rather on the foundation of faith and prayer, still stands as a monument of strength for all people everywhere. We, as a multi-ethnic nation have a rare and historical opportunity to unify ourselves as one church and rally to represent one culture-kingdom culture.”

    Kenda Bartlett, executive director of Concerned Women for America in Washington, said, “Over 32 years ago Mrs. Beverly LaHaye, wife of Dr. Tim LaHaye, and a small group of Christian women gathered around a kitchen table to answer God’s calling to start a women’s public policy organization dedicated to putting faith and prayer back into the public square.

    “Today that organization is Concerned Women for America (CWA), the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization with over 500,000 members. So we know first-hand the huge impact a small gathering of believers can make when God is at the center of their work. Likewise, CWA was honored be among the small group of Christian leaders and organizations to gather in Statuary Hall for the first annual ‘Washington: A Man of Prayer’ event observing George Washington’s inauguration address, which boldly called ‘We the People’ to a time of prayer.”

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/jonathan-cahn-follow-baal-and-go-to-hell/#9EEscVMgCSK9V1Fd.99
     
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    Thanks for the post. Good to see a few are seeing and hearing the warnings and connecting the dots.


    Romans 11:5 ESV

    "So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace"....as for the rest, "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”.......

    From the article, “They drove God out of the government. They worshiped idols and served other gods. They celebrated immorality and they persecuted righteousness. The blessings of God were removed and replaced with judgments,” he said.

    Now, he said, “America has made the same mistakes.”

    If anyone has not noticed, the " judgements " are increasing, as is the spirit of stupor.
     

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    Understood,
    When are you going to start buying precious metals?

     
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    I will start thinking about it after Shemitah , 13 Sep 2015. However, since the Jubilee year starts 14 Sep 2015, I will more than likely stay in cash as I have been until the dust settles ( it has been a wise move). Keep in mind I went " all in" a few months before 9/11 at historic lows. I still believe gold will go lower as it violated the Fib number .618 .Do not buy based on my recommendations , just because I cleaned up once, does not mean I will hit the jackpot twice.
     
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    Thanks, and, interesting.
    It may continue to "orbit" 1195 for 1-2 more months.
    Any drop below 1140 will not last more than 4 months--if it occurs at all.
    Just my estimates and guesses.

     
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    Those watching keep your eyes open. We have over 7 million chickens and turkeys dead (mostly in IA and MN) from the bird flu. The plauge is also starting to show up. We will be seeing more of this kind of stuff.
     
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    I don't consider these things to be "weird"; decades of antibiotic overuse and unsound industrial farming practices have created a cesspool of drug-resistant viruses and bacteria. These outbreaks and mutations are merely a foregone conclusion for these practices.

    P.S. I'm not denying "Shemitah", merely pointing out that we are going to reap what we sow.


     
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    True. Just interesting those consequences are happening this year. Why not 2014? Or 2013. Just seems the scope and scale of this bird flu is quite large. At least from what I can recall. Doesn't seem like a typical occurrence.

    Heard today that five more large farms in IA have the bird flu. Some are saying the numbers could very well eclipse 20 million birds.
     
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    Agree. As for me, I'm totally of the mind that we're about to experience God's wrath on America (and the world in General). I say "God's wrath", but the reality is He probably is merely allowing our own actions to come to fruition...He doesn't need to lift a finger because we humans have jacked everything up on an epic level.

     
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    "withdrawal of protection and blessings" would be a more appropriate statement. God's wrath (indescribable) is recorded during the later days (endtimes). We still have a long ways to go before "the End"......however, Christians and Muslims in the ME are certainly seeing "the endtimes".
     
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    History records events that occur during the Shemitah (judgements-warnings) increase in frequency and intensity, pull up events that occurred from 25 Sep 2014, drought, disease, economic, political, unrest, military, Blood Red Moon Tetrad, ....thank God we have only 4 months till Sep 13th, ...not so fast, Sep 14th begins the 7x7 Jubilee year cycle.......Jubilee years are commonly associated with government downfalls, exiles, captivity, collapse.....I will see you in church...
     
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    "(CNN)A pit bull was at the heart of a rare plague outbreak in Colorado that left four people sick last year. That's what a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention investigation found in a new report released April 30.

    The CDC says on average about eight people get the plague every year in the United States. While it still can be life threatening, with modern medicine it is not the death sentence it was back in the Middle Ages when millions died. Antibiotics and antimicrobials can clear it up.

    In last summer's incident, what stands out is the possible human-to-human transmission, according to the investigation. That hasn't happened in the United States since 1924. Earlier studies have shown that pneumonic plague, even its most severe form, can be transmitted person-to-person, but it is rare. And the dog-to-human transmission was unexpected according to the local health department. The team that investigated the case said that they could only find one other case of dog to human transmission in the medical literature. That was a 2009 case in China.

    Related: Hundreds of skeletons found under Paris supermarket

    "There is no evidence this is a mutated strain or anything," said Dr. John Douglas, director of Colorado's Tri-County Health Department. "It is rare, and we don't know if it has simply been missed before or if it something about this particular breed of dog. We haven't been able to determine that."

    Douglas did add they were not trying to malign a particular breed of dog. People with pets who live in parts of the country where plague is present in wild animals do need to make sure that they keep their pets far away.

    In this instance, in at least three of the four cases, people got sick after being exposed to the infected dog. With the fourth patient it is "less certain" if her exposure came from the dog or the person.

    Related: Plague blame game, Gerbils replace rats as prime suspects

    The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment first learned about the plague after lab samples showed the presence of Yersinia pestis the bacterium that causes the plague in blood taken from a middle-aged man hospitalized with pneumonia.

    The man, who remains unnamed in the report, checked himself into the hospital after coughing up blood. The hospital initially diagnosed him with a different bacterial infection. An automated lab had misdiagnosed it. After six days in the hospital, the man's symptoms got worse, so they transferred him to another facility and ran further tests. It was only then that the lab figured out that he had the plague. He eventually recovered, but was hospitalized for 23 days.

    When it was correctly identified, experts from the Tri-County Health Department looked into the case. What they found was that the patient's dog had recently been euthanized. The vet diagnosed the 2-year-old pit bull with hemoptysis, a condition where the dog would have been spitting up blood. The dog also had a fever and a rigid jaw. Only after additional tests did health care workers learn that the dog had been infected with the bacterium that causes the plague.

    Related: Why scientists are studying germ universe in subway

    Investigating further, the department learned three other people who had contact with the dog and one person who had contact with both the dog and the initial patient were sick. A worker at the vet clinic had a fever and cough. An urgent care facility initially diagnosed her with bronchitis. When she didn't get better she started taking an antibiotic and took herself to the ER. Five days later she learned she was sick with plague. The hospital treated her with oral levofloxacin. Another worker at the vet's office got sick and was treated similarly.

    The final patient was someone who had close contact with the initial man who got sick and she also came into contact with the body of the dog. She told investigators she had gotten the dog's blood on her hands. She was also exposed to the initial patient's blood after he had been coughing it up. She was hospitalized and was also treated successfully.

    The health department learned a total of 114 people had close contact with either the dog or with one or more of the human patients. Some 88 of them were given antimicrobials as a precaution. Others were told to watch for fever...."

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/01/health/pit-bull-plague/index.html
     
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    Interesting thoughts on gold from Martin Armstrong.


    http://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/28300
     
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    NASA Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) view of the sun erupting with an X2-class solar flare on May 5 at 22:11 UT.
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    ThePsychedelicAnatomyofaSolarFlare:photos

    After a long period of calm, the sun awoke from its slumber and erupted with one of the most powerful solar flares of the year on Tuesday.

    The X2-class flare exploded from the sun’s limb over a region of intense magnetic activity designated AR (active region) 2339. Although it wasn’t Earth-facing, the flare still had a dramatic effect on Earth — the high-energy extreme-ultraviolet and X-ray radiation bathed our planet’s uppermost atmosphere, causing waves of ionization.

    PHOTOS: The Psychedelic Anatomy of a Solar Flare

    Known as the ionosphere, these uppermost layers are used to bounce global radio communications around the globe and, shortly after the solar flare that occurred at 22:11 UT (6:11 p.m. ET) yesterday, radio operators reported a wide-spread outage of frequencies below 20 MHz, writes Spaceweather.com. This frequency would have likely impacted mariners, aviators and ham radio operators.

    The eruption also generated its own radio burst at shortwave frequencies that could be recorded by ground-based receivers. These radio emissions were caused by the rapid acceleration of electrons trapped within the powerful magnetic fields in the lower corona (the sun’s superheated atmosphere)....

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    Martin Armstrong sets the date for global collapse.

    http://www.welt.de/finanzen/geldanlage/article140550440/Es-wird-zu-einem-grossen-Crash-kommen.html

     
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    Armstrong: There's nothing left, where you can tuck his money in good conscience. Maybe it will again give you the opportunity in America after the bursting of the sovereign debt bubble [after October 1, 2015], after a pullback in equities to enter. But then at some point it's over.

    Die Welt: What does your model say?

    Armstrong: The great crash will come 2017 or 2018.

    => 2018 is not the Shemitah, is it?
     
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    QWAK,Ebie,When the dominos start falling or when the dominoes have ALL fallen is the same chain of events ---- something this big could well take years to totally bottom out.:thumb.aspx::bawling:

    the DUCK :s11:
     
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    Shemitah every 7 years on the Biblical calendar ( Hebrew). This cycle started 25 Sep 2014 and runs to 13 Sep 2015. What is highly unusual is the 50 year Jubilee starts starts 14 Sep 2015 and ends Sep xx 2016. A Jubilee year is 7 sets of 7 Shemitahs. Events that occur during a cycle are a glimpse ( warning ) of events that will increase in intensity past the last day. Look for some culmination of a financial event the weekend of 13 Sep, it will set off a downward spiral ( crisis), then another even bigger crisis in Sep 2016....or so the Biblical " theory" has proven. Keep in mind, Shemitah is a form of judgement on a nation that has abandoned God's word ( judging by current events- and rebellion, we should be seeing a crisis of historic intensity).

    Forewarned is forearmed

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    Advance warning provides an advantage.

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    Many idioms that have no obvious source are often referred to, for no good reason, as 'old proverbs'. 'Forewarned is forearmed' has a genuine claim to be called such, as it dates from at least the end of the 16th century, and could be much earlier. The Latin saying 'praemonitus, praemunitus' loosely translates as 'forewarned is forearmed'. There's no evidence to show that the English proverb is merely a translation of the Latin though.
     
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    ....my thoughts, Armstrong's "great crash " is a world crash, the US " great crash" occurs during the Jubille year ( 2016) which sets off ( ignites) the great world crisis 2017-2018. Armstrongs computer model fits nicely into the Biblical cycle ( as does Sinclair and Russell's projections). I smell good old fashioned revivals heading our way.....exceeding the one that occurred during the Great Depression Shemitah year.
     

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    I've been saying the exact same thing. When people realize that they DO need God, they seek Him in unprecedented numbers. Until then, they can simply keep on borrowing, eating, drinking and reveling in their (seeming) independence from Him. I believe that He's going to (edit) mercifully (/edit) give the world a great opportunity to come to him prior to "the day of the Lord".

     
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