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So, You Wanna M1911 45ACP Get with Your Local / State CMP They're Coming

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  1. GOLDBRIX

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    "Americans will soon have the rare opportunity to get their hands on a historic military gun.

    Only American citizens can purchase one of these World War II combat pistols, the M1911, from the U.S. Army stockpile. And only one can be purchased a year by a qualified buyer.
    The 1911 is one of the most sought-after popular handgun models in the country. The legendary pistol entered service more than a century ago, and was used in World War I. Most of the vintage handguns in storage were made before 1945.

    President Trump is expected to soon sign off on a bill greenlighting the Army to make available for sale a limited number of these M1911s to American civilians.

    For several decades, these surplus U.S. military handgun stockpiles have been hidden away in storage out of the public eye.....
    From Colt to Springfield Armory, the M1911 was made by a range of American gunmakers. There will also be a full spectrum available, ranging from brand spanking new pistols to ones with visible battle scars.....
    The pistols will not all be in the same condition. There will most likely be some in pristine, mint condition – but this is also a special opportunity to hold in your hand a 1911 with character bearing the marks of accompanying a brave U.S. soldier through his service and sacrifice for our country.
    There will be very high demand competing for a very limited number ranging between 16,000 and 20,000 will be up for sale over the next two years.

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    File photo - a U.S. Marine assigned to Force Reconnaissance Platoon, Maritime Raid Force, 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), fires an M1911 MEUSOC .45-caliber pistol while conducting close quarters combat drills at Fort Pickett, Va., April 21, 2015. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Andre Dakis/26th MEU Combat Camera/Released)

    In the future, it is expected another possible 70,000 or so may eventually become available.

    Who can buy them?
    There are rules for who CMP can sell firearms to. For starters, only to Americans. You need to be a U.S. citizen or you are out of luck.

    You also need to meet the federal and state-level firearm criteria to legally buy a firearm. These criteria include being at least 18 years old and passing a background check.

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    File photo - a U.S. Marine with Force Reconnaissance Platoon, Maritime Raid Force, 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), reloads an M1911 during a training exercise Jan. 22, 2016. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Joshua W. Brown/Released)

    Next, you need to fall within the guidelines.
    Active-duty service member, reservist, National Guardsman, veterans and CMP’s “special affiliates” members are all eligible to purchase one.

    Special affiliate members are folks who belong to congressionally chartered veterans service organizations and professional organizations like the Fraternal Order of Police.

    So if you don’t fall within those categories then you need a membership with a CMP-affiliated club. These can be found across the United States and often membership will set you back around $20 to $30.

    How can you buy one?

    Get ready in advance so you’re poised to strike and nab one.

    You’ll need a copy of a U.S. birth certificate, passport or any other official proof of citizenship. For military IDs, E5 and above can be used.

    To prove you meet age requirements, you can use that same proof of identification if it details your birthdate.

    Make sure you have proof ready that you fall within the guidelines. You’ll need to provide proof of membership in a CMP-affiliated organization like a membership card or CMP Club Member Certification Form.

    You also need to provide proof you know how to safely handle firearms and are familiar with shooting range safe conduct.

    If your state has any other documents required to purchase a handgun then that paperwork needs to be included as well.

    There is also a specific 1911 form that needs to be filled in. You can find a complete list of all the requirements, the mail order process, CMP organizations and all other relevant details on the CMP website.

    How much?

    Once the crates are opened by CMP they will inspect, grade, and value everything to determine the prices."

    More here: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/01...oric-m1911-pistol-from-us-army-stockpile.html

    Allison Barrie is a defense specialist with experience in more than 70 countries who consults at the highest levels of defense and national security, a lawyer with four postgraduate degrees, and author of the definitive guide, Future Weapons: Access Granted, on sale in 30 countries.

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  2. Crockett

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    Which will ensure a commanding price. Wonder what they will sell for?
     
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    Are they refurb'd or will they be tired?
     
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    I looked at some surplus pistols and rifles offered through the CMP website.....be ready to let go of at least 2oz of Au for wore out sidearms...
     
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    My last experiences at the CMP is they got old worn out stuff and some refurb stuff but the prices are IMHO steep.
    Why buy a worn out 1911 when a new one isn't that expensive?
    After all your purchase could just as well been carried by a coward as a brave US soldier. Who knows?
    If they were dumping them cheap I'd be all over it. Otherwise why bother.

    Oh, BTW, the last unit I was in that had issue 1911s was in 1986. They were worn out and beat to shit. My personal opinion is I would give about $50 to $100 based on condition.

    Edit:
    When we got the 9mm, the 1911s were put into barrels in the armsroom. Not wrapped or anything, just put into a metal barrel.
    After I left, the wall fell down. Then at some time after that, they invited the Russians over, I saw a video where they toured, the interesting part was in the armsroom. When shown the 9mms, they weren't interested, but they asked about the .45, so the armorer opened up the barrel and showed them. They were very impressed. I guess they knew about the .45 from WWII when we gave them a bunch. I suspect they found the 1911 to be superior to the Soviet issue pistols.
     
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    The CMP went from the cheapest way to acquire USGI milsurps to one of the most expensive. It seems the government eventually found yet another way to pork the American people up the butt. Expect these 1911's to be ~$2K each...gotta fund those federal social programs ya know!
     
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    CMP has always cherry-picked the M1 Garands decades ago. Those in the best condition would be auctioned offed. Then they had three to four tiers of remaining conditions from "Special" = Excellent, Service Grade = Good to Very Good, Field Grade = Fair to Good, Rack Grade = Fair.

    I'd say this is how the 1911's will be handled too.

    This reminds me back in the '80s I could have had a Service Grade M1 for around $250.00. I thought it was too high. I'm still kicking myself for not "pulling the trigger" back then.
     
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    Something happened to the CMP during Clinton's time I believe, I may be wrong as to timing, but there was a change. There were changes to it that caused them to jump up the charges for everything. The last few times I visited [Camp Perry] I really didn't purchase anything from them due to the high cost. I remember during my first visits I would see a lot of pickups getting loads of cases of ammunition. I did not see that the last couple of visits.
     
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    The CMP was not allowed to import U.S. made rifles by the last administration causing the sea of red (Sold Out) at the CMP. All import issues easily could have been one of the first things to be corrected by Trump admin. I cannot imagine that he has not yet been approached to do so.

    Those guys loading pickup trucks of ammo may have been dealers. Today all surplus M2 ball is gone.
     
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