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Discussion in 'Goodbye Threads' started by Oz Waver, Dec 4, 2013.



  1. Oz Waver

    Oz Waver Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    I am not well at all and am seeking both medical and alternative options.

    Very weak.

    This is my last post, I'm working to get better although it's pretty dire to be honest.

    I just wanted to say thank you to all GIMers for making this a source of great information, sharing and helping me to express myself. I wish that the world could be a fairer more caring and compassionate place and for what it's worth I think GIM is contributing to it.

    Reading stressful things is not good and does take a toll on ones health I think.

    My love to you all and your family, please continue to make a difference in the lives of others.

    Thank you
     
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    Good luck dude. We support you. Like your avatar.
    Hope to see you back sometime with your valuable contributions even though I don't always agree with them :)
     
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    gnome Gold Chaser Platinum Bling

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    Best wishes that you get well soon, Oz. You are a valuable contributor and will be missed.
     
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    Goldhedge Modal Operator/Moderator Site Mgr Site Supporter

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    Sorry to hear this news!

    I hope the best for you.
     
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    Come back sometime and tell us you're doing better.
     
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    Chester-Copperpot Gold Member Gold Chaser Site Supporter Platinum Bling

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    Oz this ain't your last post! Go kick ass and get better, then come back stronger. :thumbs_up:
     
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    Silver Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    What exactly is wrong? If it is physical there are solutions. If it is mental there are ways to deal with it. What is talked about here is just hashing things out, not to be internalized. But, if taking a break from the online world is helpful, by all means do so.
     
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    hammerhead Not just a screen name Gold Chaser

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    This place CAN drive a person nuts. I feel my BP rising whenever I check the threads. So if you feel the urge to check in, just check the random pictures thread.

    Best wishes to you Oz. As you say, we can (and do) make a the world a better place. :bear_smile:
     
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  9. Oz Waver

    Oz Waver Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    It's physical.

    My blood circulation is shutting down and my limbs are turning white and cold.
    I have large headaches.
    Burining sensation across chest and upperback.
    Loss of nerve conduction especially right arm. Reflexes not responding.
    Small capillaries clearly not flowing. They blocked my arteries with pressure then let go and could see it not refilling properly.
     
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    Every day we should hear at least one little song, read one good poem, see one exquisite picture, and, if possible, speak a few sensible words.
    - Goethe

    Take care
     
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    hammerhead Not just a screen name Gold Chaser

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    Wow. That is intense. It is good to say good bye. There are many people I never had the chance to say that to. What I wish I could have said was thanks and see you on the other side. :beerglass:
     
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    If it is physical and you are doing everything you can to remedy the situation, I wish you comfort and recovery. My best wishes for your health.
     
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    smooth Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Very sorry to hear of this Oz. Take care and be strong. Hope to see you here again another day.
     
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    EO 11110 He Hate Me Mother Lode

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    alternative health info here: www.oneradionetwork.com

    also has call in (or email questions) radio show where you can get questions answered or suggestions made. the host knows a lot of stuff and people that might give you some ideas

    i've never had a problem getting in via call or email
     
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    Sir Oz. I'm very sorry to hear about your state of health. I'm sure the doc's got you on all sorts of meds. I feel like you may already know what I'm about to tell you. I am in no way a doctor but I know what works for me. I've been taking an over the counter amino acid called L- arginine for many years. It is an amino acid that is in fact a hemodilator. It causes your body to produce nitric oxide...a gas in you blood that enlarges every blood vessel in your body. You can get it at walmart or anywhere. Of course talk to doc about it...but this stuff can be had for 4 bucks a bottle and is amazing. Here's some facts...and I wish you nothing but the best sir.


    L-arginine is a chemical building block called “an amino acid.” It is obtained from the diet and is necessary for the body to make proteins. L-arginine is found in red meat, poultry, fish, and dairy products. It can also be made in a laboratory and used as medicine.

    L-arginine is used for heart and blood vessel conditions including congestive heart failure (CHF), chest pain, high blood pressure, and coronary artery disease. L-arginine is also used for recurrent pain in the legs due to blocked arteries (intermittent claudication), decreased mental capacity in the elderly (senile dementia), erectile dysfunction (ED), and male infertility.

    Some people use L-arginine for preventing the common cold, improving kidney function after a kidney transplant, high blood pressure during pregnancy (pre-eclampsia), improving athletic performance, boosting the immune system, and preventing inflammation of the digestive tract in premature infants.

    L-arginine is used in combination with a number of over-the-counter and prescription medications for various conditions. For example, L-arginine is used along with ibuprofen for migraineheadaches; with conventional chemotherapy drugs for treating breast cancer; with other amino acids for treating weight loss in people with AIDS; and with fish oil and other supplements for reducing infections, improving wound healing, and shortening recovery time after surgery.

    Some people apply L-arginine to the skin to speed wound healing and for increasing blood flow to cold hands and feet, especially in people with diabetes. It is also used as a cream for sexual problems in both men and women.



    How does it work?

    L-arginine is converted in the body into a chemical called nitric oxide. Nitric oxide causes blood vessels to open wider for improved blood flow. L-arginine also stimulates the release of growth hormone, insulin, and other substances in the body.



    Im pretty sure its also one of the main compounds found in vigra...if you were so inclined. :D
     
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    gringott Killed then Resurrected Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Oz, take care of yourself and come back when you are better. I wish you well as they say..
     
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    Oz Waver, I'm wishing you a recovery. Please don't rely on medical doctors. I sure enjoyed your posts.
    Keep us posted.
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Oz Waver, keep a positive attitude, get well & come back.
    We will all wait for you. :s1:
     
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    Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
     
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    The Many Benefits of Hydrogen Peroxide

    http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml



    By Dr. David G. Williams
    http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml
    Posted July 17, 2003

    (Original title: Hydrogen Peroxide - Curse or Cure?)

    When it comes to hydrogen peroxide therapy there seems to be only two points of view. Supporters consider it one of the greatest healing miracles of all time. Those opposed feel its ingestion is exceptionally dangerous, and only the foolhardy could think of engaging in such behavior. Before either condemning or endorsing hydrogen peroxide, let's take a real close look at what we're dealing with.

    If any substance is interesting, it's hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide should really be called hydrogen dioxide. Its chemical formula is H2O2. It contains one more atom of oxygen that does water (H20). By now everyone's aware of the ozone layer that surrounds the earth. Ozone consists of three atoms of oxygen (03). This protective layer of ozone is created when ultraviolet light from the sun splits an atmospheric oxygen molecule (02) into two single, unstable oxygen atoms. These single molecules combine with others to form ozone (03). Ozone isn't very stable. In fact, it will quickly give up that extra atom of oxygen to falling rainwater to form hydrogen peroxide (H202). (Bear with me: all this chemistry mumbo jumbo I'm going through actually will help you understand the importance of hydrogen peroxide.)

    Helps Plants
    It is this hydrogen peroxide in rainwater that makes it so much more effective than tap water when given to plants. With the increased levels of atmospheric pollution, however, greater amounts of H202 react with air-borne toxins and never reach the ground. To compensate for this, many farmers have been increasing crop yields by spraying them with diluted hydrogen peroxide (5 to 16 ounces of 35% mixed with 20 gallons of water per acre). You can achieve the same beneficial effect with your house plants by adding 1 ounce of 3% hydrogen peroxide (or 16 drops of 35% solution) to every quart of water you give your plants. (It can also be made into an excellent safe insecticide. Simply spray your plants with 8 ounces of 3% peroxide mixed with 8 ounces of white sugar and one gallon of water.)

    Hydrogen peroxide is odorless and colorless, but not tasteless. When stored under the proper conditions, it is a very stable compound. When kept in the absence of light and contaminants, it dismutates (breaks down) very slowly at the rate of about 10% a year. (This can be slowed even further by storing the liquid in the freezer.) It boils at 152 degrees C and freezes at minus 2 degrees C.

    When exposed to other compounds hydrogen peroxide dismutates readily. The extra oxygen atom is released leaving H20 (water). In nature oxygen (02) consists of two atoms--a very stable combination. A single atom of oxygen, however, is very reactive and is referred to as a free radical. Over the past several years, we've continually read that these free radicals are responsible for all types of ailments and even premature aging. What many writers seem to forget, however, is that our bodies create and use free radicals to destroy harmful bacteria, viruses, and fungi. In fact, the cells responsible for fighting infection and foreign invaders in the body (your white blood cells) make hydrogen peroxide and use it to oxidize any offending culprits. The intense bubbling you see when hydrogen peroxide comes in contact with a bacteria-laden cut or wound is the oxygen being released and bacteria being destroyed. The ability of our cells to produce hydrogen peroxide is essential for life. H202 is not some undesirable by-product or toxin, but instead a basic requirement for good health.

    Newer research indicates we need hydrogen peroxide for a multitude of other chemical reactions that take place throughout the body. For example, we now know that vitamin C helps fight infections by producing hydrogen peroxide, which in turn stimulates the production of prostaglandins. Also lactobacillus found in the colon and vagina produce hydrogen peroxide. This destroys harmful bacteria and viruses, preventing colon disease, vaginitis, bladder infections and a host of other common ailments. (Infect Dis News Aug.8,91:5). When lactobacillus in the colon or vaginal tract have been overrun with harmful viruses, yeast, or bacteria, an effective douche or enema solution can be made using 3 tablespoons of 3% H202 in 1 quart of distilled water. Keep in mind, however, that a good bacterial flora must always be re-established in theses areas to achieve lasting results.

    Aerobic versus Anerobic
    While we are discussing enemas and douches, there is another misconception about H202 I need to address. The friendly bacteria in the colon and vagina are aerobic. In other words, they flourish in high oxygen environments and thrive in the presence of oxygen rich H202. On the other hand, most strains of harmful bacteria (and cancer cells) are anaerobic and cannot survive in the presence of oxygen or H202. We can agree that hydrogen peroxide produced within individual body cells is essential for life. And no one doubts its effectiveness when it comes to treating infections topically. The controversy deals with ingesting the substance orally or introducing it into the body intravenously. The dispute has been going on for decades, and considering the attitude of our medical community, it will continue for many more decades to come.

    I'll admit I was skeptical when I first learned about using H202 orally or intravenously. This healthy dose of skepticism, however, lead to a great deal of investigation, clinical work and experimentation. And while I realize a large majority of readers will probably never be convinced that H202 is a safe and effective compound, I am. Hydrogen peroxide is safe, readily available and dirt cheap. And best of all, it works! No one yet fully understands the complete workings of hydrogen peroxide. We do know that it is loaded with oxygen. (A pint of the food-grade 35% solution contains the equivalent of 130 pints of oxygen. A pint of 3% hydrogen peroxide found at the local drugstore contains 10 pints of oxygen. And a pint of the 6% solution used to bleach hair contains 20 pints of oxygen.) We also know that when H202 is taken into the body (orally or intravenously) the oxygen content of the blood and body tissues increases dramatically. Early researchers felt these increases were simply due to the extra oxygen molecule being released. This doesn't however, appear to be the case.

    Only very diluted amounts of H202 are ever introduced into the body. The small amount of oxygen present couldn't be solely responsible for the dramatic changes that take place. Dr. Charles Farr, a strong proponent of intravenous use, has discovered another possible answer. Dr. Farr has shown that hydrogen peroxide stimulates enzyme systems throughout the body. This triggers an increase in the metabolic rate, causes small arteries to dilate and increase blood flow, enhances the body's distribution and consumption of oxygen and raises body temperature (Proceedings of the International Conference on Bio-Oxidative Medicine 1989, 1990, 1991).

    Father Richard Willhelm
    We are just beginning to learn exactly how H202 works. It was reported to work as far back as 1920. The English medical journal, Lancet, then reported that intravenous infusion was used successfully to treat pneumonia in the epidemic following World War I. In the 1940's Father Richard Willhelm, the pioneer in promoting peroxide use, reported on the compound being used extensively to treat everything from bacterial-related mental illness to skin disease and polio. Father Willhelm is the founder of "Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxide" (ECHO, a nonprofit organization dedicated to educating the public on the safe use and therapeutic benefits of hydrogen peroxide.) Much of the interest in hydrogen peroxide waned in the 1940's when prescription medications came on the scene. Since that time there has been little economic interest in funding peroxide research. After all, it is dirt cheap and non-patentable. Even still, in the last 25 years, over 7,700 articles relating to hydrogen peroxide have been written in the standard medical journals. Thousands more, involving its therapeutic use, have appeared in alternative health publications. The number of conditions helped by hydrogen peroxide is astounding. The reported dangers and side effects are few and often conflicting.

    Emphysema
    Let's look at several conditions that seem to respond especially well to H202 therapy. First, keep in mind that there are two methods of administering the peroxide-1) orally and 2) intravenously. While most conditions respond remarkably to oral ingestion, emphysema is one condition in which intravenous infusion can be a godsend. Emphysema involves destruction of the alveoli (the small air sacs in the lungs). Although chemical fumes and other irritants can cause the destruction, it is most often the result of smoking. As the disease progresses, the patient finds it more and more difficult to breathe. A wheel chair and supplemental oxygen become necessary as the disease progresses. Lack of adequate oxygen reaching the tissues forces the heart to pump more forcefully. This leads to high blood pressure, enlargement of the heart itself and eventually heart failure. Conventional medicine offers little help for emphysema. There is no cure. The best that can be hoped for is symptomatic relief and the prevention of any serious complications that might result in death. H202 therapy can offer more. Using 1 ounce of 35% peroxide per 1 gallon of non-chlorinated water in a vaporizer improves nighttime breathing tremendously. But intravenous infusion holds the real key to relief. It has the ability to cleanse the inner lining of the lungs and restore the ability to breathe.

    We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use intravenous infusion for emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within minutes oxygen from hydrogen peroxide begins to bubble up between the membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated mucus. (Dr. Farr refers to this as the "Alka-Seltzer effect.") The patient begins to cough and expel the material that has accumulated in the lungs. The amount of bubbling, coughing, and cleansing can be regulated by simply turning the H202 on and off. As the peroxide clears the lung surface and destroys the bacterial infections, the patient regains the ability to breath more normally. We continue to receive reports from patients for whom the technique has improved breathing so much that a wheelchair and supplemental oxygen are no longer needed. If you would like to find a doctor in your area trained in the use of intravenous H202 infusion, contact the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM), P.O. Box 13205, Oklahoma City, OK 73113 at (405) 478-4266. They can provide names and addresses of doctors using the procedure in your area.

    If emphysema were the only ailment successfully treated with H202 therapy, it would still rank as one of the top health discoveries of all time. Fortunately, H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. A closer look at how we have decreased the availability of external and internal oxygen, will show you just how important this can be. If you were not too occupied with trying to hide dissection specimens in the other student's desks, you might remember from elementary science courses that our atmosphere contains about 20% oxygen. That is under ideal circumstances. It has recently been reported that in many of our more polluted cities, there levels have dropped to around 10%! (I have already mentioned how less hydrogen peroxide-containing rain is reaching the earth's surface. With increased pollution it is reacting with airborne toxins before it even reaches the ground.) And everyone, by now, knows the oxygen-generating rain forests are being destroyed worldwide, which further reduces available oxygen. Internal oxygen availability is also under attack.

    Chlorination of drinking water removes oxygen. Cooking and over-processing of our foods lowers their oxygen content. Unrestrained antibiotic use destroys beneficial oxygen-creating bacteria in the intestinal tract. Dr. Johanna Budwig of Germany has shown that for proper cellular utilization of oxygen to take place, our diets must contain adequate amounts of unsaturated fatty acids. Unfortunately, the oils rich in these fatty acids have become less and less popular with the food industry. Their very nature makes them more biologically active, which requires more careful processing and gives them a shorter shelf-life. Rather than deal with these challenges, the food industry has turned to the use of synthetic fats and dangerous processes like hydrogenation.

    It's obvious that our oxygen needs are not being met. Several of the most common ailments now affecting our population are directly related to oxygen starvation. Asthma, emphysema, and lung disease are on the rise, especially in the polluted metropolitan areas. Cases of constipation, diarrhea, intestinal parasites and bowel cancer are all on the upswing. Periodontal disease is endemic in the adult population of this country. Cancer of all forms continues to increase. Immune system disorders are sweeping the globe. Chronic fatigue, "Yuppie Flu" and hundreds of other strange viral diseases have begun to surface. Ironically, many of the new "miracle" drugs and nutritional supplements used to treat these conditions work by increasing cellular oxygen (oftentimes through H202 formation). For example, the miracle nutrient, Coenzyme Q10, helps regulate intercellular oxidation. Organic germanium, which received considerable publicity not too long ago, also increases oxygen levels at the cellular level. And even substances like niacin and vitamin E promote tissue oxidation through their dilation of blood vessels.

    Hydrogen peroxide is only one of the many components that help regulate the amount of oxygen getting to your cells. Its presence is vital for many other functions as well. It is required for the production of thyroid hormone and sexual hormones. (Mol Cell Endocrinol 86;46(2): 149-154) (Steroids 82;40(5):5690579). It stimulates the production of interferon (J Immunol 85;134(4):24492455). It dilates blood vessels in the heart and brain (Am J Physiol 86;250 (5 pt 2): H815-821 and (2 pt 2):H157-162). It improves glucose utilization in diabetics (Proceedings of the IBOM Conference 1989, 1990, 1991). The closer you look at hydrogen peroxide, the less surprising it becomes that it can help such a wide variety of conditions.

    The following is only a partial listing of conditions in which H202 therapy has been used successfully. (Many of these conditions are serious, if not life-threatening. As always, I would highly recommend seeking the advice and guidance of a doctor experienced in the use of these techniques.)

    Allergies Headaches
    Altitude Sickness Herpes Simplex
    Alzheimer's Herpes Zoster
    Anemia HIV Infection
    Arrhythmia Influenza
    Asthma Insect Bites
    Bacterial Infections Liver Cirrhosis
    Bronchitis Lupus Erythematosis
    Cancer Multiple Sclerosis
    Candida Parasitic Infections
    Cardiovascular Disease Parkinsonism
    Cerebral Vascular Disease Periodontal Disease
    Chronic Pain Prostatitis
    Diabetes Type 11 Rheumatoid Arthritis
    Diabetic Gangrene Shingles
    Diabetic Retinopahty Sinusitis
    Digestion Problems Sore Throat
    Epstein-Barr Infection Ulcers
    Emphysema Viral Infections
    Food Allergies Warts
    Fungal Infections Yeast Infections
    Gingivitis

    Grades of Hydrogen Peroxide
    Hydrogen peroxide is available in various strengths and grades.

    A) 3.5% Pharmaceutical Grade: This is the grade sold at your local drugstore or supermarket. This product is not recommended for internal use. It contains an assortment of stabilizers which shouldn't be ingested. Various stabilizers include: acetanilide, phenol, sodium stanate and tertrasodium phosphate.

    B) 6% Beautician Grade: This is used in beauty shops to color hair and is not recommended for internal use.

    C) 30% Reagent Grade: This is used for various scientific experimentation and also contains stabilizers. It is also not for internal use.

    D) 30% to 32% Electronic Grade: This is used to clean electronic parts and not for internal use.

    E) 35% Technical Grade: This is a more concentrated product than the Reagent Grade and differs slightly in that phosphorus is added to help neutralize any chlorine from the water used to dilute it.

    F) 35% Food Grade: This is used in the production of foods like cheese, eggs, and whey-containing products. It is also sprayed on the foil lining of aseptic packages containing fruit juices and milk products. THIS IS THE ONLY GRADE RECOMMENDED FOR INTERNAL USE. It is available in pints, quarts, gallons or even drums. Various suppliers are mentioned later in this article.

    G) 90%: This is used as an oxygen source for rocket fuel.

    Only 35% Food Grade hydrogen peroxide is recommended for internal use. At this concentration, however, hydrogen peroxide is a very strong oxidizer and if not diluted, it can be extremely dangerous or even fatal. Any concentrations over 10% can cause neurological reactions and damage to the upper gastrointestinal tract. There have been two known fatalities in children who ingested 27% and 40% concentrations of H202. Recently, a 26 month old female swallowed one mouthful of 35% H202. She immediately began vomiting, followed by fainting and respiratory arrest. Fortunately, she was under emergency room care and although she experienced erosion and bleeding of the stomach and esophagus, she survived the incident. When she was re-examined 12 days later, the areas involved had healed (J Toxicol Clin Toxicol 90;28(1):95-100).

    35% Food Grade H202 must be

    1) handled carefully (direct contact will burn the skin--immediate flushing with water is recommended).

    2) diluted properly before use. 3) stored safely and properly (after making a dilution the remainder should be stored tightly sealed in the freezer).

    One of the most convenient methods of dispensing 35% H202 is from a small glass eye dropper bottle. These can be purchased at your local drugstore. Fill this with the 35% H202 and store the larger container in the freezer compartment of your refrigerator until more is needed. Store the eye dropper bottle in the refrigerator. The generally recommended dosage is outlined in the chart below. The drops are mixed with either 6 to 8 ounces of distilled water, juice, milk or even aloe vera juice or gel. (Don't use chlorinated tap water to dilute the peroxide!)

    Suggested Protocol
    The program outlined is only a suggestion, but it is based on years of experience, and reports from thousands of users. Those who choose to go at a slower pace can expect to progress more slowly, but that certainly is an option. The program is not carved in stone and keep in mind that it can be adapted to fit individual needs. Individuals who have had transplants should not undertake an H202 program. H202 stimulates the immune system and could possibly cause a rejection of the organ.

    Day # -Number of Drops/ Times Per Day
    1 - 3 / 3
    2 - 4 / 3
    3 - 5 / 3
    4 - 6 / 3
    5 - 7 / 3
    6 - 8 / 3
    7 - 9 / 3
    8 - 10 / 3
    9 - 12 / 3
    10 - 14 / 3
    11 - 16 / 3
    12 - 18 / 3
    13 - 20 / 3
    14 - 22 / 3
    15 - 24 / 3
    16 - 25 / 3

    Maintenance Dosage
    In most situations after the above 21 day program, the amount of H202 can be tapered off gradually as follows:
    25 drops once every other day for 1 week
    25 drops once every third day for 2 weeks
    25 drops once every fourth day for 3 weeks

    This can then be reduced to between 5 and 15 drops per week based on how one feels. Those with more serious problems will often benefit from staying on 25 drops three times a day for one to three weeks, then tapering down to 25 drops two times daily until the problem is resolved (possibly as long as six months). Those with chronic systemic Candidiasis may need to start with 1 drop three times a day, then 2 drops three times a day before starting the above schedule. It is important that H202 be taken on an empty stomach. This is best accomplished by taking it either one hour before meals or three hours after meals. If there is food in the stomach, the reaction of H202 on any bacteria present may cause excess foaming, indigestion, and possibly even vomiting. Additionally, some animal research indicates that when H202 given orally combines with iron and small amounts of vitamin C in the stomach, hydroxyl radicals are created (J Inorg Biochem 89;35(1):55-69). The bleach-like aftertaste of H202 can be lessened by chewing one of the sugar-free cinnamon gums. Some individuals taking H202 immediately before bedtime have a difficult time getting to sleep. This is probably due to a sense of alertness triggered by an increase of oxygen at the cellular level. The oral dosage schedule is basically the same for all conditions. There are several points to keep in mind, however.

    Some individuals may experience upset stomach. If this occurs it is recommended that one not stop the program, but rather remain at the current dosage level or reduce it to the previous level until the problem stops. (Some patients have been able to solve the nausea problem by taking three or four lecithin capsules at the same time they take the H202.) During the program it's not uncommon to experience what is known as a healing crisis. As dead bacteria and toxins are released from your body it may temporarily exceed your capacity to eliminate them quickly enough. In some individuals this overload may cause fatigue, diarrhea, headaches, skin eruptions, cold or flu-like symptoms, and/or nausea. One should not discontinue using the peroxide to stop this cleansing. By continuing the program, toxins will clear the body sooner and this healing crisis will pass rather quickly.

    If you are not already taking vitamin E and an acidophilus product, I recommend starting them before going on H202. Vitamin E can make more efficient use of any oxygen available and acidophilus will help re-establish the beneficial bacterial flora in the lower bowel and also help in the internal production of hydrogen peroxide.


    Making and Using 3% Solutions of H202
    A 3.5% solution can be made quite easily by first pouring 1 ounce of 35% H202 into a pint jar. To this add 11 ounces of distilled water. This will make 12 ounces of 3.5% H202. 3.5% H202 has a variety of medicinal uses.

    1. Three tablespoons mixed with a quart of non-chlorinated water makes a good enema or douche formula.
    2. It can be used full strength as a mouthwash or mixed with baking soda for toothpaste.
    3. It can be used full strength as a foot bath for athlete's foot. (Diabetics have found relief from circulation problems by soaking their feet in 1 pint of 3% peroxide mixed with 1 gallon of warm, non-chlorinated water for 30 minutes nightly.)
    4. A tablespoon added to 1 cup of non-chlorinated water can be used as a nasal spray. Depending on the degree of sinus involvement, one will have to adjust the amount of peroxide used. I have seen some who can use it at the full 3% strength and others who had difficulty with using a few drops and mixed with a cup of water.
    5. 3.5% H202 can be added to pets drinking water at the rate of 1 ounce per quart of non-chlorinated water. Sick cattle reportedly benefit from 1 pint (of 3%) to each 5 gallons of water. (Chickens and cows have remained healthy by using 8 ounces of 35% H202 per 1,000 gallons of drinking water.)

    Additional Information
    There are two sources you should contact if you have an interest in using hydrogen peroxide therapy. The first, ECHO, was founded by Father Richard Willhelm and is run by Walter Grotz. Their information packet includes a sample newsletter, a list of H202 distributors and several other items. The packet is being made available to interested ALTERNATIVES readers for only $3. Their address is

    ECHO Box 126
    Delano, MN 55328

    If you have an interest in contacting doctors who provide intravenous hydrogen peroxide therapy you can write to the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM) at the address listed earlier in this article. You should also be aware that there are now numerous hydrogen peroxide products on the market. Some are simply peroxide that has been flavored and mixed with sea minerals, aloe vera, inner tree bark or other ingredients to make the peroxide more palatable (Superoxy, Oxy Toddy, etc.).

    Others claim to have developed products that deliver more oxygen than does simple hydrogen peroxide (Aerox, Anti-Oxid-10, Di-Oxychloride, Aerobic 07, Aqua Pure, etc.). Basically you'll end up paying a small fortune and at best achieving the same results you can get for pennies by using hydrogen peroxide.

    Conclusion
    Hydrogen peroxide is one of the few simple miracle substances still available to the public. Its safety and multiple uses ranks it right up there with DMSO. If you've never used either of these compounds you are overlooking two of the most powerful healing tools ever discovered. Most of us started on hydrogen peroxide shortly after birth. Not only does mother's milk contain high amounts of H202, the amount contained in the first milk (colostrum) is even higher. This seems only reasonable now that we know one of its main functions is to activate and stimulate the immune system. Although I am a strong supporter of H202 therapy, I am not suggesting that everyone needs to be using it. There are probably some individuals whose health and well-being would not be enhanced with hydrogen peroxide. But there are also millions of others who are suffering needlessly because they either do not know about hydrogen peroxide or they have been misinformed about its use.

    ~ Afterword ~
    The above copyrighted article has been reprinted with permission from Mountain House Publishing, P.O. Box 829, Ingram, TX 78025. It appeared in a recent issue of the health newsletter, ALTERNATIVES ($39.00/yr. 12 issues). Subscription information and/or a sample issue can be obtained by writing to the above address.

    Source: Family Health News

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    Hydrogen Peroxide Nasal Sprayer & Garden Applications by Bill Munro (Feb. 7, 2005)
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    HYDROGEN PEROXIDE

    http://www.landrights.com/Hydrogen_Peroxide.htm


    If you have any questions or wish to discuss further the information below please contact me using SKYPE, my username is: landrights_com

    Click here >>>>> for information giving credence to the idea of inhaling hydrogen peroxide and to see Bill Munro (who is 83 years old mind you) demonstrating how to use the pump.

    Below is an example of some typical spray bottles that can be purchased at drug stores and other retail outfits which can be adapted to be used for hydrogen peroxide inhaling. Be sure to clean bottle thoroughly before putting your 3% hydrogen peroxide solution in the empty bottles. I typically inhale 5-6 times a day and inhale about 5 or 6 sprays during each inhale (see video above for example).



    HYDROGEN PEROXIDE

    Hydrogen Peroxide is the most over looked chemical used by man. New uses of it are coming to light every day. Bad bugs be they, in your garden or your body, they cannot live in an oxygen rich environment.
    At 69 years old my muscles were so tight that to get out of bed I would lay on my stomach and back out on to the floor, push down on the bed and stand up. I knew there was something to correct this bad situation. One morning while having coffee with a friend, I noticed he had brought a small stack of books with him. Being curious, I asked if I could look at the books. The one that stood out to me was "O2xygen Therapies". As I was scanning it, it became more interesting to me. I asked him if I could take it home. It was a week before returning the book. Being convinced Hydrogen Peroxide was what I was looking for, it was now going to into my system? The book gave three choices. Put 8 to 10 drops in an 8 oz cup and drink it, four times a day. Next was, put a pint of 35% in the bathtub and soak for 1 hour once a week. Or go to a doctor for intravenous infusion once a week. None of these had any appeal to me.
    After a week or two I decided that the easiest, and most efficient way was to inhale the 3% peroxide into my mouth and on into my lungs. I just happened to have a “Nasal Spray Pump” (see sample picture below). I dumped the contents out, put in the 3% peroxide as it comes from the drugstore. Now, how many times do I pump? I settled for one pump per inhale, and 4 times a day. That went on for about a month. As I was laying down for a short rest, I noticed that I was breathing freely. No forced inhale or exhale. That was the first thing that I noticed while inhaling the peroxide. I then changed the time when to inhale the peroxide. Now I inhale 2 times in the morning and at night. While deep inhaling I pump the pump as many times as I can, usually 8 to 10 pumps each inhale. Another thing I noticed was, I sleep all night with my mouth closed. I used to have heart aches that were very uncomfortable, no more.
    My wife and I have been inhaling peroxide for 9 years now and no colds, sore muscles, aches or pains. I take no medication or vitamins. I am less than two years to 80 years old. My lungs don’t give out when I work in my garden or other things around the house. My house is 160 years old, so the work never stops. Peroxide keeps our oxygen blood count in the high 90’s.
    One of the first people that used the peroxide as I do was very interesting. He had a low self-esteem. I found out that he was on kidney dialysis. I discussed the peroxide several times with him. Finally one day I went to his house with a nasal spray pump. He opened it and poured out the contents and filled it back up with 3% peroxide. He sprayed it in to his mouth and into his lungs. I said you know how to do it, and I left. Three days later I called him to see if anything had happened. He said that he could breath easier. Four days latter he called me, he was so excited all he could say was “It’s working, It’s working". I asked "What did it do?". He said he was waking up about an hour and a half before normal and that he was coughing up all the bad stuff that was in his lungs. He went back to bed and when he woke up, he said he had not felt that good in years. From that time on his spirit was always good and his voice was up beat.
    A couple of people told me after four or five years of using the peroxide they stopped. I ask why and both said they did not get sick, and they don’t think it was working.You can make that judgement. One friend of ours goes to the doctor for pacemaker check ups and the doctor tells him the peroxide will not help him but it will not do him any harm. He is using his second pacemaker. He has told me several times; if it were not for his inhaling the peroxide he would not be here today.
    Bill Munro
    Email at: land@landrights.com
    Website: www.landrights.com


    Nasal Pump Use

    The nasal spray pump plays a big part in my use of peroxide. I use it to propel the peroxide into my lungs by spraying it into the back of my throat. I also spray my toothbrush to clean my teeth, to clean my glasses, spray minor cuts and scrapes, and wet postage stamps. Peroxide can be used as an aftershave tonic. Spray it on your face and rub it in. BE SURE you close your eyes when you spray your face. It will be uncomfortable if you don’t. Peroxide may be a factor in retarding aging.
    I have an additional nasal pump that is full of distilled water and I use it to flush out my eyes when they feel a little dry. I spray my eyes and let the water drain down my cheeks. I wipe the water off my cheeks only, with a tissue. There are no chemicals in distilled water.
    I think in the future many of the prescription drugs will come in a spray pump. Several do now but we will be seeing more. This allows the drugs to start to work instantly. They will go right into your system and not have to ward off the acids in your stomach. They can be easily dispensed almost anywhere.
    Do you have a suggestion for the use of a nasal pump? I’d be interested in hearing from you.

    GARDENING WITH
    HYDROGEN PEROXIDE

    This will be the most phenomenal article you will ever read. It deals with something as simple as H2O2 (Peroxide) and is harmless to all good things. I have been gardening for about 40 years and was wondering why bad bugs had to have a very specific pesticide to control them. I had been inhaling peroxide for aches, pains and allergies and it seemed to control all of them. Not having any source to go to for the information on how to use peroxide in the garden, I decided on the trial and error method. I have never started a project that I new how to get to the end, and this was no exception.
    The beauty supply store would have the peroxide that I needed. The 40% peroxide cost about $2.50 a quart. I bought the least expensive they had, because I did not need any additives. Having no knowledge of what strength to use, I used 8% for my plants. They did not die so that is the strength I have used ever since.
    If you have a small garden you will need a hand squeeze sprayer. A little peroxide goes a long way. My lot is about 100 X 85 and I use a six-gallon sprayer. I have it mounted on a 2-wheel handcart. The peroxide comes in several strengths, so the strength you start out with is not that important as long as the final strength is 8%. Peroxide should be kept out of the sun.
    When you plant the seedlings dig the hole and spray it with peroxide using your hand sprayer. Wet it good and then wet the roots of the seedlings or small plant.
    I don’t use any commercial fertilizers. I have my own well so I have none of those chemicals the government uses in their water. When I prune the fruit trees, I put the trimmings in the chipper and add all the ashes from my wood burner and then till them into the garden in the fall. My garden is composting all year long. The grass clippings are used for the walkways between plants. I started out with clay, now the soil is black and soft.
    Corn was the first plant that I used the peroxide on. I marked two rows off and every 12 inches made a hole about 2” or 3” deep. I put one kernel in each hole then poured about third cup of 8% peroxide in each hole and covered them up. In 5 to 6 days the sprouts came up. Fourteen days later I repeated the process without the peroxide. They came up in 12 to 14 days. Fourteen days later I repeated the first with the peroxide and they came up in 5 to 6 days. As the corn grew the corn with out the peroxide did not grow well as the ones with peroxide. I have noticed that the birds do not attack the ears of corn any more, and I assume it is because there are no worms in ears of corn. Birds can fly over the corn and know there are no worms in the corn. Do they have a sense that man does not have?
    Acorn squash was next. They were planted with out peroxide. After 3 or 4 leaves formed the bugs made filigree of the leaves. One new leaf was untouched. I sprayed the plants with peroxide and as time went by the plants sprouted new leaves. They produced several squash. I sprayed the plants after every rain. I planted turnips with no peroxide and the bugs over took them. I wet them down with peroxide and that stopped the bugs.
    I planted radishes and they grew bigger than golf balls, and had a mild and firm taste. I will be planting radishes and carrots this year. Last year the turnips grew to 6” to 8” in diameter and were mild when cooked.
    The next year I decided to try soaking the seeds before I planted them. I soak them for three or four hours just before I planted them. The only seeds that did not survive the soaking were the navy beans. They just slipped out of their skins.
    The potatoes have been interesting. The first year I planted potatoes I planted them without soaking them but sprayed them after they came up. I wet them down (not soaking) after they were 6 or 8 inches tall. Then about three weeks later I just sprayed a mist over them. They had some very small holes in them but they produced good potatoes. The next year I soaked them before planting and misted them when they came up. Last year I had several self-sow potatoes. I transplanted them but used no peroxide on them. I have had self-sow squash that came from plants that were peroxide grown and they were bug free without using peroxide.
    In 2002 I used one ounce of 40% peroxide per gallon. Just about every thing that was green was sprayed and the results were a big surprise to my wife and me, We had no mosquitoes or any other flying bugs in our yard. There were a few ladybugs but they were few and far between. I don’t think the peroxide had any thing to do with the ladybugs directly. However, the lack of bugs for them to eat would be my guess why there were so few.
    The vegetable that gave me a problem was the cabbage. I was determined to conquer the cabbageworm. Years ago I sprayed the cabbage plants with peroxide to no avail. This year I soaked the cabbage seeds before planting them. There were no signs of the bug until the cabbage plants were almost full grown, then I poured about a quarter of cup of 8% peroxide over the cabbage, letting it flow down into the layers of the leaves. That stopped the cabbage bugs.
    This year I will use hydrogen peroxide more freely on every thing that is alive and green in my yard and garden.
     
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    Best wishes and good luck Oz, get better.
     
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    OZ,

    Thanks for the post.
    Thoughts are with you.

    Edit to add:
    L Arginine ( above by Stoney ) has assisted me tremendously.

    Haystackneedle
     
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    I've just bought some in 100g jar.

    What dosage, frequency is good?

    I talked to the Doctor and he was "try" it, I don't think it will have much of an effect. Only prescription medication has an effect.
     
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    Most prescription medicines have an immediate effect on the symptoms, not the cause. By making the symptoms dissappear, they create the illusion of healing, yet as soon as you quit using them the sypmtoms re-appear, if the side effects haven't killed you by then.
     
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    All I can do is pray and I'm praying you make a recovery.
     
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    My prayers are with you, you may want to research chelation therapy.
     
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    Best wishes to you Oz and I hope that you get well soon. Stay as positive as possible. :thumbs_up:
     
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    Have you had an LP/been tested for multiple sclerosis?
     
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    Oz,

    My best to you in these trying times,

    We will be here for you should you need us,

    This time you are up to bat, and it is time to worry about you,

    Take care and follow the yellow brick road,
     
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    When someone here at GIM is ill or lost it feels like we are losing a family member. We hope for your speedy recovery.

    As far as multiple sclerosis, when my wife was diagnosed, she lost sensation on her entire left side of her body. Before that she had pain on her back and abdomen that would not go away. She also at times feels extreme heat even in cold weather. Headaches for her are a constant.
     
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    I do 1500mg twice and day. And I would b shocked If it didn't have an effect right away sir.


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    This stuff does what it say's it will do. I promise you that.
     
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    Oz, I hate that you think the time may be drawing closer.

    But remember, only you know when you've had enough. In the mean time hang tough and fight the good fight

    Do not go gentle into that good night.
     
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    I'm fighting hard to stay alive guys.

    The doctor did a bunch of test but the results won't be back for 2 weeks and it's being rushed otherwise it would be even longer. But the problem is to keep staying alive during that period.

    I am taking a herb for immune function and l-arginine now and a herbal thyroid tablet recommended by alternative people.

    Doctors aren't very helpful at all.
     
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    Hey Oz, As long as you have the strength, and if it does your spirit well, keep us posted. Live to fight another day sir. Prayer sent.
     
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    Sorry to hear of your condition.

    I hope you try the peroxide as it has helped me to breath a few times when I was not feeling well though I obviously do not suffer from your ailments.

    Here are a couple of more articles about hydrogen Peroxide for cases of cancer, also this video promotes removing fluoride from the body, it also promotes the removal of heavy metals.

    Not sure if this will help you, but you have my prayers.




    http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/

    http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/HydrogenPeroxide.html
     
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    Out of the blue, you popped into my head today OZ. Wondering how you're doing If you're still checking in on this place, please give us an update.
     

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