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The 2nd Amendment Isn't Under Attack, You Just Don't Know The Difference

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  1. Goldhedge

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    Some food for thought


    The 2nd Amendment Isn't Under Attack, You Just Don't Know The Difference Between Statutes and Laws

    Corporate Statutes vs Laws of the Land:

    You folks must remember that you have NOT had a legitimate gov't body on American soil since the 41st Congress walked out sine die (without a return date) in 1861. D.C. basically sat dormant for ten years and the foreign money masters decided to take over America under a corporate ponzi scheme. In 1871 they inhabited those halls of congress in D.C. and incorporated that ten square mile radius and they named their newfound shitty little corporation the 'UNITED STATES', which is NOT the same as the 'united States of America' in an attempt to hoodwink/fool the People into believing they once again had a legitimately seated gov't body (see District of Columbia Act of 1871).

    History: http://www.commonlawgrandjury.com/who-is-working.htm (link is external)

    What you have now is a foreign corporation that goes by the name 'UNITED STATES' that is masquerading as your legitimate gov't body on American soil and the con continues to this day.

    Yes, the UNITED STATES is a foreign corporation operating under the International Organization Immunities Act (UN) since 1945.

    The UNITED STATES is not the same as the 'united States of America'

    All your so-called 'elected officials' must expatriate their American National Citizenship and swear an allegiance to that foreign corporation before they may hold public office.

    Proof: http://popularliberty.com/2958/oath-office-makes-all-elected-officials-f...

    And be sure to listen to the audio of Rod Class explaining this to you at the bottom of that post to help you better understand what has actually happened.

    That corporation has its own set of rules, codes, statutes, that they like to call 'laws' (US Codes Title 1 - Title 54) that only apply to internal employees of that corporation who are being compensated to abide by the 'you may not possess 30 round magazines', or 'you may not possess an automatic weapon without a tax stamp', or 'you must obtain a concealed carry license', statutes.

    See their internal statutes here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text (link is external)

    Employees of that corporation must abide by those internal and restrictive firearms statutes while they are on the clock receiving pay, because they are being compensated, as they have signed into an employment contract to hold that gov't job, unlike most of us who are NOT being compensated.

    Statutes are NOT laws, they are internal rules for INTERNAL employees of that corporation, just as BURGER KING or XEROX has their own internal statutes/rules/codes/regulations that only apply to their internal employees while they are on the clock and being compensated to abide by them, so does the corporation known as the UNITED STATES.

    You must remember that America is a Common Law Nation, and Slavery and Involuntary Servitude are against the law on American soil (see Amendment XIII), and no man may compel performance from another man without fairly and justly compensating that man.

    What would constitute performance in the context of this writing?

    Answer: Forcing another man/woman to abide by internal statutes/rules/codes/regulations of a corporation he does NOT work for.

    They have hoodwinked the majority of the country into believing their internal rules/codes/statutes/regulations (which are not laws) apply to EVERYONE on this landmass, but they do not. They only apply to employees of that corporation who are being compensated to abide by them while they are on the clock fulfilling their part of the employment contract. If you are a local/state/federal employee, then you are not allowed to possess certain weapons without a tax stamp, and you must obtain a concealed carry permit, or you may not possess 30 round magazine, etc. ...... While you are on the clock and receiving pay, only!

    If you work for BURGER KING or XEROX, you are required to abide by that corporation's internal rules/regulations/statutes while you are on the clock, but when you clock out at 5PM you are no longer contractually obligated to abide by those internal rules until you clock back in to work the next morning at 7AM.

    Those of us who are NOT local/state/federal employees are not contractually bound by those internal corporate statutes, as we are not receiving a gov't paycheck on the 1st and 15th like all other gov't employees who are being compensated to abide by that corporation's internal statutes.

    Yes, the UNITED STATES is a Federal Corporation, they even tell you this in their own codes.

    (15) “United States” means—
    (A) a Federal corporation;
    (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
    (C) an instrumentality of the United States.

    Source: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002 (link is external)

    If they are not paying you to abide by those ridiculous firearms rules/codes/statutes/regulations (which are NOT laws), then they simply do not apply to you, as slavery and involuntary servitude are against the law on American soil (see Amendment XIII).

    So, what is gov't doing to us?

    Because you have in your possession a Certificate of Live Birth; a Driver's License, and a Social Security No., (all of which are gov't issued ID's), this corporation likes to run wild with their presumptions that YOU are one of their own internal employees who are contractually obligated to abide by their internal rules/codes/statutes/regulations, but they are forgetting to tell you one thing:

    If they expect any kind of performance out of you other than merely possessing those ID's, they are lawfully required to compensate you, just as they are compensating all other local/state/federal employees who are being compensated to abide by that corporations own internal statutes, which are NOT laws.

    They aren't compensating you on the 1st and 15th of the month, therefore those internal statutes do NOT apply to you, period! But if you're willing to play along and wilfully abide by those statutes without compensation, they sure as hell aren't going to stop you. This is how they control the majority of society, because most of us don't know the difference between internal statutes and actual laws.

    Keep calling something like a 'code' or a 'statute' a Law, and before you know it everyone starts believing they ARE actually laws.

    They make BILLIONS, possibly TRILLIONS of dollars every year off unsuspecting Americans who don't know the law; who don't know their Rights by presuming you into a quasi-employment position within their shitty little corporation, and they are conveniently forgetting to send you your check on the 1st and 15th.

    So, how do we protect our Rights from gov't agents/agencies that insist on Interfering with your Right to own/possess any firearm you choose, which would include fully automatic weapons or an F-16 without any type of license or extortion fee tax stamp?

    First we have to learn the difference between a 'criminal complaint' and an actual claim.

    Here's what happens:

    Some gov't goon/agency gets word that you possess and automatic weapon without a tax stamp (extortion fee) and they send out their goons to kick down your door and arrest you in the dark of night. The D.A. then files a 'criminal complaint' against you for possession of that/those weapons without the proper tax stamps/permission and attempts to throw you in a cage for 10 years and wreck your life/family/finances, etc.

    You must realize that he is only COMPLAINING about your possession (hence the criminal complaint), because he has no actual claim. He's hoping like hell that you do not know the law and you or your attorney file any kind of paperwork back into his silly complaint, such as an affidavit; a rebuttal; a counterclaim, etc., which now creates joinder. Now that you've acknowledged his silly complaint as anything legitimate, he now takes his complaint and runs with like an actual claim and the STATE now becomes the injured party ..... Cool little con they have there, eh?

    He had no lawful case (claim) until you started playing attorney and filing paperwork back into his silly complaint, which ultimately legitimizes the toothless piece of paper known as a 'criminal complaint'.

    As free men/women on American soil we do NOT answer silly complaints. If we answered every single complaint someone made against us on a daily basis, we'd never get anything done. But we do answer to verifiable claims made by another man/woman who claims to be an injured party; or claims we have harmed them or their private property, and if we have done them harm, we try to compensate them for our trespasses.

    The D.A. cannot be an injured party because your possession of an automatic weapon without a tax stamp did not harm HIM or his personal property, therefore he is bringing controversy where there is no controversy; he's attempting to unjustly enrich himself and the almighty STATE by hoodwinking you with a silly complaint that has zero force or effect in actual law.

    When the D.A. files a criminal complaint against you, it reads like this:

    STATE OF TEXAS vs John P. Doe [Illegal possession of class III weapon]

    What he is doing is filing a complaint on behalf of some entity that goes by the name 'STATE OF TEXAS', but on American soil you have the Right to confront your accuser and attempt to compensate him for any harm you may have caused (see Article VI) - Can this entity known as the 'STATE OF TEXAS' take the stand and point you out across the room and say,

    'That man right over there harmed me and my personal property by possessing that automatic weapon and I require compensation for the trespass!' ?

    Answer: No, it cannot.

    The Plaintiff must appear and verify his claim, on the Record - Only a 'man' may utter with his voice in open court and verify a claim, a corporation such as the STATE OF TEXAS cannot.

    So what we have here is a D.A. who is filing false claims against his fellow man to unjustly enrich himself and the almighty STATE OF TEXAS Corp. by attempting to hoodwink you with a 'criminal complaint', because they make BILLIONS of dollars through the courts with this con on a yearly basis. Remember that gov't cannot file claims against the People, as the People are the one's who created the gov't.

    He's operating under the presumption that YOU are one of that corporation's own internal employees who is contractually obligated to abide by that corporation's internal 'laws' known as codes and statutes, which are NOT actual laws of this land. It is not against the law to presume, and if you don't rebut, you must agree, and when two entities agree, we now have law. Yes, it is quite the con, but they make billions of dollars through the court system on a yearly basis from non-employees of their corporation because we don't know the difference between statutes and actual laws.

    So how do we combat this criminal behavior?

    Answer: We must file a claim against him to counter his silly complaint!

    He is committing barratry; attempting unjust enrichment; extortion; harming your good name within your community; malicious prosecution, and wasting your very precious and valuable time dealing with his toothless nonsense known as a 'criminal complaint', and now you are going to file a claim (not a complaint, but an actual claim) against him and drag him into court as a defendant for trespassing on your Rights by filing false claims against you.

    You are going to require compensation from him for the trespass(es), and because your compensation is going to exceed twenty dollars (see Article VII), you are going to invoke your Right to a 'trial by jury'. Now the D.A. has become a defendant in a trespass claim and YOU are now the prosecutor in a court of record, and in a court of record, the Tribunal is Independent of the Magistrate. You are now the prosecutor; the man who filed false claims against you is now the wrongdoer, and the Jury now becomes the Judge. The guy who normally plays God (the Judge) is now lowered to the status of a mere referee who is to carry out the court's orders and keep court decorum, only. He can no longer tell you to sit down and shut up, as this is now YOUR court, and it is YOUR claim in that public building, and he is only there to referee.

    The D.A. has his case (criminal complaint) and you must bring forth YOUR case (an actual claim) so you aren't playing defendant in THEIR court.

    These scumbags make BILLIONS of dollars every year with this con of filing 'complaints' (read that as false claims) against their fellow man because we have never been taught the Law.

    That corporation has THEIR set of rules for their own internal employees (US Codes Title 1 - Title 54) as found here,

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text (link is external)

    And we have our own set of rules, known as the Common Law - Do. No. Harm.

    You will NOT find any reference to those statutes (US Codes) in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights because they are a SEPARATE set of rules/codes/statutes/regulations that are NOT part of the Law of the Land known as the Constitution. They are rules for internal gov't employees who are being compensated to abide by the 'you may not possess 30 round magazines' statutes. You will not find BURGER KING or XEROX statutes in the Constitution either, as they are a SEPARATE set of rules that only apply to employees of those corporations while they are on the clock and receiving pay.

    The Second Amendment clearly states:

    "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

    That word 'shall' means at anytime in the future, and there is ZERO Amendments or Footnotes anywhere in the Bill of Rights that reference man to go to US Codes to validate the Law, because US Codes are NOT Laws, they are totally Independent of the Constitution, and have zero force or effect in Law unless you are an employee of that corporation and under contract to perform by those internal statutes, period!

    To change that Law (2nd Amendment), it would have to be ratified by 3/4's of the States, then voted on by the Senate, and that will NEVER-EVER happen on American soil and they damned well know it, so all they can do is HOPE you continue to go along with their con by convincing you that their internal corporate statutes are laws by continuing to use the media to call them laws, instead of what they actually are - Internal Corporate Statutes of the corporation known as the UNITED STATES.

    This corporation's CEO and Board of Directors (Obama, Senators, Congressmen) can change their own internal firearms statutes at will-on a daily basis because it is a separate set of rules that only applies to employees of that corporation, but do not apply to the average American who is not on the gov't payroll. Just like BURGER KING or XEROX can change their own internal 'laws' at will, so can the 'UNITED STATES Corp.', and they don't need a Constitutional Amendment to do it, because those statutes are NOT Laws of this Land, and only apply to employees of that corporation. They can change them daily, as they most often do, and need no ratification from the several States, because they are NOT laws, they are statutes that only apply to the CEO (Obama) and those gov't agents/employees beneath him.

    In closing: You may own/buy/sell/possess any weapon of choice without permission from that corporation if you are not an employee of that corporation, and all they can do is COMPLAIN about it - hence their 'criminal complaints', and you are not lawfully required to buy a tax stamp or a concealed carry permit either, unless you are under employment contract and receiving pay to abide by restrictive firearms statutes, which are NOT laws.

    America, like England, Australia, Canada, and Ireland are 'Common Law Nations', and you may do anything you damned well please as long as you are not harming another man or his property, and that includes owning/possessing an automatic weapon without having to purchase an extortion stamp, as well as openly (or concealed) carrying any firearm of your choice, anywhere you go, unless it is prohibited by Private Property Owners such as a local business, etc.

    Remember, the Plaintiff MUST appear, and the STATE OF TEXAS cannot take the stand and verify the complaint (false claim), and the D.A. cannot verify the claim either, as you did not harm HIM or HIS personal property, therefore he is filing false claims against you, and that is a very big NO-NO in Law that can cost him his house; his automobile; his retirement fund; his freedom if a Jury sees fit.

    Remember also...

    Trinsey v Pagliaro, D.C.Pa. 1964, 229 F.Supp. 647. "Statements of counsel in brief or in argument are not facts before the court and are therefore insufficient for a motion to dismiss or for summary judgment."



    They make BILLIONS of dollars every year filing COMPLAINTS against people who do not know the law and do not know the difference between as silly 'criminal complaint' and an actual claim.

    If you'd like to learn more about how to defend your Rights against rogue Gov't agents and their Agencies by countering their complaints with claims, I'd suggest you get to YouTube and look up 'Karl Lentz Common Law'.

    Here is Karl explaining what it means to file an actual claim against the prosecuting attorney's silly and frivolous complaint:

    Audio:



    They control you through statutes and complaints because you don't know the law.

    Common Law - Get Some!

    http://popularliberty.com/9380/2nd-...ont-know-difference-between-statutes-and-laws
     
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    historyrepete Silver Member Silver Miner

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    The systems fake but they use real bullets
     
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    Cigarlover Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Irwin Schiff just died in prison, not because he was wrong but because he was telling sharing that information with everyone and opening challenging someone to prove him wrong. Countless others have also gone to prison for nothing more than exposing the truth, including some well documented Irs agents themselves.
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Joe Bannister comes to mind, but he beat the prison rap.
     
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    Goldhedge Modal Operator/Moderator Site Mgr Site Supporter

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    Still, it's good to know the truth...
     
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    Cigarlover Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Yes it definitely is.. I spent a couple thousand hours reading the tax code and court cases associated with it. In the end all we have are kangaroo courts that do what the government wants. Paying the federal mafia their cut is the only solution. Hendrickson has had success but even he and his wife have done time for not amending their tax returns per a court order. Like the court has a right to tell you what you can put on your tax return and still have to sign under penalty of perjury.

    This is the main reason I cant get excited about any election. All anyone is doing is picking the person they feel will screw them less for the next 4-8 years. In the end none of them want to ensure my rights arent violated.
    I havent heard one candidate say they would get rid of SS, NDAA, the patriot act, obamacare ect..
     
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    Same goes for the 160 military bases around the world, IRS, DEA, CIA, DOE and dozens more gov't departments that are nothing more than counter-productive to liberty and freedom.

    But even if the federal gov't were to be cut down by two-thirds, or even if .gov were to simply disappear, the owners of the CBs would still have everything they've stolen, and plenty of ways to continue their game of absolute power.
     
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    Bigjon Silver Member Silver Miner Site Supporter ++

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    It's apparent that some of you either did not read the piece or can't comprehend that the thing we call "our" government is just a corporation and most of us have volunteered to be unpaid employee's of same. We are the suckers.

    You can't sit on the fence on this, but it is my understanding that if you take control of your birth certificate estate and make it clear that you are NOT a U.S. Citizen they will pretty much leave you alone, as long as you stay on the private side of the fence.

    If you try to sit on the fence and do not declare your status they use their doctrine of presumed assumption that you are a U.S. Citizen, subject to all their statutes.
     
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    Goldhedge Modal Operator/Moderator Site Mgr Site Supporter

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    I remember hearing about illegals being pulled over by the cops for traffic infractions, no license et al and bring released by the cops.

    I thought it was because of the paperwork hassle with immigration, but I'm thinking it was because they were "traveling" not "driving"...

    Notice the big push to get them drivers licences lately??
     
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    If you are stupid enough to walk into the lions den,
    Then you deserve to be it's dinner



    With that said,
    You would be amazed just how much power you have if you learn to do a few simple things like:
    write the right words on a piece of paper,
    walk into your local courthouse and spend a few dollars to record your document onto the public record
    and then send it certified mail to whomever is trespassing against your rights.


    If some of you would take the time to read these different articles that get posted and put their messages all together, you will find them to be quite effective, or you can just go on being a slave, along with your children...
     
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    TRYNEIN Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    “All codes, rules and regulations are applicable to the government authorities only, not human/Creators in accordance with God’s laws. All codes, rules and regulations are unconstitutional and lacking in due process.
    Rodriques v Ray Donavan (U.S. Department of Labor), 769 F. 2d 1344, 1348 (1985)



    Supreme Court: Jones v. Temmer, 89 F. Supp 1226:
    "The privileges and immunities clause of the 14th Amendment protects very few rights because it neither incorporates the Bill of Rights, nor protects all rights of individual citizens. Instead this provision protects only those rights peculiar to being a citizen of the federal government; it does not protect those rights which relate to state citizenship."

    "The rights of the individuals are restricted only to the extent that they have been voluntarily surrendered by the citizenship to the agencies of government."
    City of Dallas v Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944

    “Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many Citizens, because of their respect for what appears to be law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their rights due to ignorance.”
    US v Minker, 350 US 179 at 187(1956)


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    Isn't that nice, all of these crimes are violations of 'Contract Law'.

    Did you know you were in a contract???

    Remember, you can NOT be coerced or deceived into a valid contract!!!




    According to 27 CFR 72.11, ;
    Counterfeiting; forgery; kidnapping; larceny; robbery; illegal sale or possession of weapons; prostitution; extortion; swindling; and many other things, like simple addiction to drugs or marihuana use, are considered and defined as “Commercial Crimes” where you are converted to an object for “commercial
    use” and Due Process of Law becomes a farce!



    "The state citizen is immune from any and all government attacks and procedure, absent contract."
    see, Dred Scott vs. Sanford, 60


    U.S. (19 How.) 393 or as the Supreme Court has stated clearly,
    “...every man is independent of all laws, except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent.”


    Alexander v. Bothsworth, 1915
    .
    “Party cannot be bound by contract that he has not made or authorized. Free consent is an indispensable element in making valid contracts.”



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    Learn your rights, because no one else can claim them, except you




    Judge Alger Fee stated it very clearly in the case of US v Johnson, 76 Fed.Supp. 538,


    that your Rights are “neither accorded to the passive resistant, nor to the person
    indifferent thereto.”
    Furthermore Judge Fee stated that your Rights “cannot be claimed by
    attorney or solicitor”
    and are only valid “when insisted upon by a BELLIGERENT
    claimant in person.”
    His final warning was clear that “one who is persuaded by honeyed
    words or moral suasion to testify or produce documents… simply loses the protection”
    of
    your Rights!
     
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    GOLDZILLA Harvurd Koleej Jeenyus Midas Member

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    Maybe this is why they want to get everyone on welfare <--- then they are being compensated....
     
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    Po'boy Midas Member Midas Member Site Supporter

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    It's why you can't do shit without a birth certificate or ssn then look like a typical moron bitching about politicians violating the constitution.
     
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    Ragnarok I'd rather be Midas Member

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    Even if the second amendment was gone the right would still be there but would have to be fought for on a case-by-case basis.

    R.
     
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    Rights were never conditional. Nope.

    They're just bigger and meaner.

    If you were bigger and meaner you'd do what you wanted to them.
     
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    Po'boy Midas Member Midas Member Site Supporter

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    No, I wouldn't.
    Once again you are incorrect.
    Rights can be waived.
     
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    Plenty of stronger men would be happy to fill the void.

    Do unto others or they will do unto you. It doesn't work any other way, never has.

    God given rights can never be waived except by forfeiture - failing to show up for the battle.

    In that way it can be said they have been waived temporarily until they are reclaimed.

    The BoR makes it clear those rights are granted from on high, not by man.

    But the lord hates a coward, that is the problem with fancy boys who whine about their rights.

    Freedom ain't free, in other words.
     
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    It all sounds good until.....

    Key words, "designed to restore order!" Like everything else, the word "order" possesses a vague, capricious & arbitrary definition.... who defines what "order" is? Evidently exercising constitutional & individual rights have been declared "disorderly."

    The long established legal "doctrine of necessity" is the sword that is employed to progressively destroy the organic law and the legal system has declared it constitutional to restore & maintain order. Its a run-a-round to justify the violation of the limitations on .govs prescribed & enumerated in the federal & state laws as well as the corporate by laws of municipal corporations...

    Buried deeply with this doctrine of necessity, is the necessity of protecting federal, state & municiple bond & insurance investors from the risks that may arise from the general public. The entire legal system is streamlined to protect the money power, from the smallest to the largest.

    Follow the money!
     
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    Well that's a fly in the ointment......Dam...Could you point to the direct reference to this for a nice coffee read...thanks inadvance
     
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    "The Doctrine of Necessity is the basis on which extra-legal actions by state actors, which are designed to restore order, are found to be constitutional."

    The doctrine of necessity is a rarely used political concept or utilitarian idea and is used to define and validate extra-constitutional issues that fall outside the purview of the constitution but are necessary to preserve political stability. The fundamental objective of the doctrine is to satisfy the exigencies which have been created by certain situations outside the contemplation of the constitution or the rule of law; and its significant feature is the deliberate circumvention of the constitution or some aspects of the rule of law in order to get out of political quagmire.
    It is also a situation where the rule of law and constitution has to be adulterated by extra-legal civil means in the short term in order to preserve the constitutional, the rule of law, the government and democracy in the long term. Simply put: to save the country, the constitution has to be dumped and the rule of law has to be slanted. In addition, the doctrine is not a legal theory but a concession to human weakness. It is also a political arrangement that has garnered some form of legal validation and global support.

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