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The U.S. Army Is Selling Some of Its Most Powerful Guns (and You Can Buy One)

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  1. JayDubya

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    Maybe one of us "nasty civilians" can find one

    The U.S. Army Is Selling Some of Its Most Powerful Guns (and You Can Buy One)


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-army-selling-most-powerful-013200617.html

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    The U.S. Army plans on selling off its remaining arsenal of M1911 pistols.
    The U.S. Army Is Selling Some of Its Most Powerful Guns (and You Can Buy One)
    The .45 ACP M1911A1 pistol has served the U.S. armed forces for more than a century in every war zone and hotspot on the planet — and thanks to this year’s federal defense budget, it will serve civilians for the foreseeable future.

    The $700 billion 2018 National Defense Authorization Act that Congress sent to President Donald Trump’s desk on Nov. 16 included an amendment that required the Secretary of the Army to transfer a cache of small arms and ammo “no longer actively issued for military service” to the government-sponsored Civilian Marksmanship Program, including the M1911 and M1911A1 pistols, the M–1 Garand, and .22 rimfire rifles.

    The 1911 semiautomatic pistol, invented by legendary firearms inventor John Moses Browning, proved extremely reliable in the hands of American Expeditionary Forces during the opening years of World War I. According to the National Interest, Army Sergeant Alvin C. York neutralized six German soldiers who charged him with fixed bayonets using nothing but his 1911, earning the Congressional Medal of Honor for his valor and heroism.

    Although the 1911A1 variant that emerged in the U.S. after WWI was phased out of regular military service in favor of the Beretta 92 pistol (aka the M9) starting in 1985, its power persists. The Marine Corps ordered 12,000 M45A1 Close Quarter Battle Pistols, a 1911-modeled firearm from Colt Defense in 2014; the pistols went to MARSOC Raiders, with a handful going to special operations-capable Marine Expeditionary Units.

    The last transfer of 1911s to the CMP was in 2015, when President Barack Obama signed a defense bill that included a measure to transfer 10,000 pistols for sale to the program; lawmakers had stated that May that the DoD spends $2 a year to store each of its 100,000 surplus 1911s. With 10,000 already transferred and 8,300 additional pistols “sold or disposed of,” per Guns.com, that means there are at least 80,000 1911s ready and waiting for a nasty civilian to give them a good home.
     
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  2. anywoundedduck

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    Couldn't find any Mexican gangs to take them?
     
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    Stop posting stuff like this dammit I am trying to get rid of excess guns I don't use!


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    Me too, I'l find space for a couple though...
     
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    C'mon, you mean to tell me you don't have room in your safe for a genuine USGI M1911A1? I'll store it for you free of charge if I must! :belly laugh:
     
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    Here I was, trying to think of how nice it would be if I could buy enough of those 1911's to give as Christmas gifts to some friend and family members who also would like to own one. whistle:
     
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    I have 4 1911's right now down from 6. 2 are Colt Delta Elite 10mm's. One is a Kimber 45 one is an AMT Hardballer longslide. I would like to keep the hardballer and sell the rest. If I want to .45 something I automatically reach for my HK USP Tactical. That is the only .45 I really want and I knew it as soon as I took it out of the box!

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    I'm envious. The HK USP tactical is a very cool firearm to own and shoot, ask me how I know?
     
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    http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/h-r...MjGnTn&sc_llid=133230&sc_eh=814f9b647260f83f1

    H.R. 2810: Here Come the Military Surplus 1911s to the Public!

    By Dave Dolbee published on December 17, 2017 in Firearms, Military Surplus, News

    On Tuesday, President Trump signed into law H.R. 2810, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2018 (NDAA)—yada, yada, yada… The military currently has about 100,000 1911s just sitting in storage and costing the taxpayers money to store them. H.R. 2810 requires military surplus M1911/M1911A1 pistols (1911s) to be made available for sale to the American public!

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    The Colt 1911 was the greatest gun of its day and it still is.

    To be fair, President Obama signed a similar order. However, Obama’s order left the transfer to the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) optional. However, neither Ash Carter nor Eric Fanning decided to commit political suicide by making it happen under President Obama.

    H.R. 2810, on the hand, solves that problem by making the transfer mandatory.

    H.R. 2810 starts with a pilot program that will transfer between 8,000 and 10,000 1911s to the CMP for sale to the public. The Secretary of Defense, currently Gen. Jim Mattis, will then report the outcome of the program to Congress. The Secretary of Defense is then authorized to continue transferring up to 10,000 1911s per year for sale to the public through the CMP.

    The Process
    All pistol sales will occur through a federally licensed firearms dealer (FFL) in the purchaser’s state of residence, who will have to obey all state and local laws of the point of sale. Sales records allowing for the tracing of the firearms—should they later be found at a crime scene—will be kept both by the CMP and by the transferring FFL.

    Furthermore, the buyer must receive the pistol from the FFL in a face-to-face transaction at the FFL’s business premises. Pistols will not be provided directly to the buyers by the CMP. This is different than the way M1s were distributed, but conforms to current firearm conventions. However, the process will go beyond current regulation due to certain enhancements.

    The CMP has further indicated two background checks will be conducted in connection with each sale. The first will be conducted through the CMP prior to shipping the pistol to the specified FFL. The second will be conducted through FFL before releasing the pistol to the customer at the FFL’s place of business. Another variance from the process we are used is demonstrated by the fact that while federal law allows an FFL to transfer a firearm three days after a “delay” response by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), the CMP will only transfer the firearm to the FFL if NICS provides a “proceed” response to the first background check.

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    Additional Requirements
    Those wishing to acquire one of the surplus 1911s must be U.S. citizens, eligible to receive firearms under federal law and the laws of their places of residence, members of a CMP-affiliated club, and able to provide proof of participation in a marksmanship activity. Only one 1911 will be available to each customer per calendar year.

    Once 10,000 orders are received, the CMP will assign a random number to each customer. These customers will be contacted in sequence with the grading and pricing options that are then available. No timeline for release or pricing information is currently available.

    This is another major victory for gun owners under the Trump administration. The NRA released a statement stating its thanks and appreciation to thank Sen. Luther Strange (R-AL) and Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL) for their leadership in this historic effort.

    As soon as further details or release dates become available, The Shooter’s Log will pass them along.

    Are you interested in buying a 1911 through the CMP? Share your answer in the comment section.
     
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