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There's bad news about this year's flu vaccine

Discussion in 'Alt Medicine/Coll Silver' started by abeland1, Dec 7, 2017 at 5:05 PM.



  1. abeland1

    abeland1 Silver Member Silver Miner

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    WEDNESDAY, Dec. 6, 2017 (HealthDay News) -- There's bad news about this year's flu vaccine.
    The most common type of flu being seen in the United States is influenza A H3N2, the same severe strain that dominated last flu season.
    And in Australia, where the winter flu season has just wrapped up, this season's vaccine was only about 10 percent effective against the H3N2 strain.
    "Our vaccine is the same as the one used in Australia," said Lynnette Brammer, an epidemiologist in the influenza division of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "The vaccine doesn't work as well for H3N2 viruses in general."

    But she added that a 10 percent effectiveness rate still seems a bit low. Last year, a similar vaccine was 43 percent effective against the H3N2 virus and 48 percent effective overall, according to the CDC.

    And Brammer added that other types of flu are circulating, including influenza A H1N1 and a couple of influenza B viruses. The flu vaccine is very effective against these, she noted.

    Despite its low effectiveness, Brammer urges everyone aged 6 months and older to get a flu shot. Cut "The vaccine doesn't work as well for H3N2 as we would like, but does work for some and it may provide partial protection. And there are a lot of H1N1 and B viruses out there," Brammer said.
    The flu is being seen throughout the country and is very active in the South and New England, but it's not too late to get vaccinated, she said. But H3N2 can be particularly hard on the elderly and the very young. Each year, hundreds of thousands Americans are hospitalized for flu and thousands die, according to the CDC.

    If you do catch the flu, Brammer suggests taking antivirals such as Tamiflu to reduce the number of days you are sick. The drug works best when taken right when you get sick, so seeing your doctor early is a good move, she said.
    The CDC also advises people to wash their hands often to prevent spreading flu, and to stay home if they're sick so they won't spread it to others.
    It's too early to tell if H3N2 will continue to be the predominant strain or whether H1N1 will surpass it, Brammer said.
    Usually, a H3N2 portends a severe flu year, but mild H3N2 years have also occurred, she said.
    "The most predictable thing about flu is that it's unpredictable," Brammer said. Cut Dr. Marc Siegel is an infectious diseases expert from NYU Langone Medical Center in New York City. "It's a good guess that H3N2 will predominate, and that's worrisome," he said.
    Still, "I believe it's worth getting the vaccine," Siegel said. "I believe there is a booster effect, although I can't prove that."
    Having been vaccinated once against the various strains of the virus makes being vaccinated again even more effective, he explained. Cut Siegel added that he worries that "this could be a very severe flu season."
    SUNDAY, Dec. 3, 2017 (HealthDay News) -- Even months after recovering from the flu, older people remain at increased risk for a heart attack, stroke or disability, a doctor who specializes in infectious diseases warns.
    Latest Cold and Flu News
    "We all know about the illness influenza causes -- obviously fever and making you feel poorly, aches and pains -- and that is because it sets up a systemic inflammatory response," said Dr. William Schaffner.
    He's a professor of preventive medicine and infectious disease at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville."Not as well known: In the two weeks to a month after you recover from influenza, you have a three to five times increased risk of having a heart attack," Schaffner said in a university news release. "You have a two to three times increased risk of having a stroke."Nobody wants a heart attack or a stroke, so by preventing flu, you prevent this inflammatory response and you can help prevent those strokes and heart attacks," Schaffner said.
    Seniors account for more than half of flu-related hospitalizations caused by influenza and more than 80 percent of flu-related deaths, he said, so it's especially important for seniors to get a flu shot.
    "We have a couple of vaccines now that are particularly designed and licensed for use in older adults, and that is because they produce an enhanced immune response in this population," Schaffner said. Cut Flu can have a domino effect in seniors.
    "Influenza can take a person who is functional in society and make them very sick, but after they recover they may never get back to that same level of function that they had before," Schaffner said.
    "Flu can be like that first domino falling and beginning to push patients down the disability scale," he said. Cut -- Robert Preidt
     
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    Lets not mess around , I would like a double shot of the Special Senior vaccine...."particularly designed and licensed for use in older adults ..."...
    The double shot will give me a better chance to die faster and suffer less.....
     
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    Can someone tell me how they prove, scientifically, the effectiveness of a yearly vaccine? Seriously. Immunity doesn't work in a vacuum, and actually works best IF YOU GET SICK AND FIGHT OFF A REAL ILLNESS!

    I think they just pull those numbers out of there asses.

    I have never had a flu shot and I have only had the flu 2 or 3 times in my life. I would say not getting the shot is pretty effective.
     
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    We at all the places who are pushing this poison frown on reduced suffering, it reduces the intensity of the experience!:belly laugh:
     
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    ((Despite its low effectiveness, Brammer urges everyone aged 6 months and older to get a flu shot.)) Theyre not in big pharms pocket are they.
     
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    10% effective sucks even for the placebo for cryin' out loud. Are people really this dumb?
     
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    Remember the flu virus was discovered in 1918, at least 40 years before we had the electron microscope, and therefore the capability to see and isolate a virus. It has a remarkable history.

    Fake news has been around for a long time...
     
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    The "Spanish" influenza pandemic of 1918–1919, which caused ≈50 million deaths worldwide, remains an ominous warning to public health. Many questions about its origins, its unusual epidemiologic features, and the basis of its pathogenicity remain unanswered. The public health implications of the pandemic therefore remain in doubt even as we now grapple with the feared emergence of a pandemic caused by H5N1 or other virus. However, new information about the 1918 virus is emerging, for example, sequencing of the entire genome from archival autopsy tissues. But, the viral genome alone is unlikely to provide answers to some critical questions. Understanding the 1918 pandemic and its implications for future pandemics requires careful experimentation and in-depth historical analysis.
    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/12/1/05-0979_article
     
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    Please consider the source...
     
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    Even setting aside their obviously conflicted motives...if the self proclaimed rocket surgeons at the CDC can't figure out what killed 50 million people a century ago...why TF should I consider them an authority on anything now?
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Spot on ! I stopped taking the poison back in the late 70's. Why would anyone purposely put poison in their blood ???

    My big question is, how do they get a vaccine so quickly ?

    Here is the answer !

     
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    How The Gardasil Vaccine Is Fast-Tracked, Flawed & Not As Safe As It’s Marketed To Be
    By Helen Lobato
    Collective Evolution

    December 8, 2017

    “It is a vaccine that’s been highly marketed, the benefits are over-hyped, and the dangers are underestimated”
    – Dr Christopher Shaw from the University of British Colombia. (Take from the One More Girl documentary).

    In Australia in the 1960s, children were given a total of five vaccines from early childhood to adolescence. Fast forward to 2017, and the full schedule includes over 50 injections. And the list of new vaccines keeps growing.

    How many vaccines are enough? What is it going to take to put an end to this dated science that is making our children so sick?

    In the near future I will be a grandmother again. New birth is a wonderful time ripe for celebration and happiness. Or it should be. But regrettably for so many of us now, the occasion is also one full of fear for the child and his or her future health. This is because our children and grandchildren are being given far too many vaccines and the result of this over-vaccination is skyrocketing rates of autism and other chronic health problems.

    Our human bodies are wonderful and if subjected to a favourable environment including good food, clean water, and adequate housing, most of us will live healthy lives without needing medical intervention such as vaccines.

    When my daughter Tamara was born, I was fortunate to have a sensible, down-to-earth mother who encouraged me to breast feed. This was 1971 when it was becoming fashionable for young women to ditch the breast and take up formula feeding. I happily followed her advice and never regretted it for a moment. Breastfeeding is natural, convenient, and more importantly, a perfect feed for baby — not just nutritionally, but replete with immunity, too.

    Herd Immunity

    This brings me to the subject of herd immunity — natural herd immunity. We hear our so-called health experts speak of the need for herd immunity in the context of vaccines. But herd immunity is not obtainable from vaccines. Vaccine-acquired protection from childhood infections does not last, whereas the natural infection with its fever and rashes extends immunity and is reinforced by others when they come down with the illness.

    Before vaccines, herd immunity is gained in the following way. As a child before the age of vaccines, it was common for us to have infections such as measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox. A few days off kindergarten or school and then you were well again. We never heard of children having complications from the natural infection. When babies are breastfed, this natural immunity is passed on and protects them in the early months of life. Then when our children have measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox, the adult immunity to these illnesses is reinforced — this I think of as herd immunity.

    Take the case of chicken pox, a mild infection. Before the current age of vaccines, chicken pox immunity among adults was regularly reinforced by the young around them who had the natural disease. In this way, elderly people, often susceptible to shingles, were protected from the painful and debilitating disease. This naturally acquired immunity is disappearing now that children are vaccinated for these mild childhood infections and everything else — even against influenza. Nature has it right, and a dose of a mild infectious disease makes us stronger.

    In Australia today, penalties are strict and unforgiving for parents who do not choose to vaccinate their children.

    Enrolment in childcare centres and kindergarten requires the federal vaccination schedule to be up to date. Certain government benefits are also withheld from parents who do not comply with this overburdened vaccination schedule.

    Fear is a great motivator, and our media, at the behest of health departments and the pharmaceutical industry, have exploited the prospect of disease to such an extent that most of society thinks vaccines will prevent childhood disease and the rare death. Before the age of vaccines, there were around 10 cases of death from measles in Australia, and these sadly occurred in areas of poverty and disadvantage. Infectious disease deaths fell before widespread vaccination. Factors that resulted in reduced deaths were improved nutrition, sanitation, and hygiene.

    Similarly, when we turn to the issue of cervical cancer and prior to the 2006 release of the first human papilloma virus vaccine, Gardasil, the media message was intense, and scarcely a day passed without a horrifying cervical cancer story accompanied by the promotion of an auspicious, imminent vaccine.

    In my book Gardasil: Fast-Tracked and Flawed, I write about how this message reached an uninformed public, most of whom had never heard of this virus but were now anxiously waiting for a vaccine to become available as quickly as possible. Poverty and environmental factors such as smoking, poor diet, and even natural ageing were displaced as causation in favour of the human papilloma virus or wart virus.

    How The Vaccine Was Fast tracked

    In 2006 when the HPV vaccine Gardasil was licensed and marketed to young girls and women 9-26 years of age, the phase 3 clinical trials had not been completed. This meant that the benefits of the vaccine and any safety issues arising from it were not known. The time period from clinical trial to recommending the vaccine was only 4 years.

    According to Dr Diane Harper, one of Merck’s HPV researchers:

    most vaccines take 3 years to develop and then 5 to 10 more for universal acceptance. Merck lobbied every opinion leader, women’s group, medical society, politicians, and went directly to the people — it created a sense of panic that says you have to have this vaccine now.

    Gardasil was fast-tracked by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) due to industry lobbying by the manufacturer Merck who in December 2005 submitted an application to the FDA for fast track approval. Shortly after in February 2006 Merck announced that Gardasil was to be given a ‘priority review’. Such an accelerated review is reserved for vaccines and other products that are urgent and for conditions where other treatment does not exist.

    Did Gardasil fulfill this unmet need?

    No it certainly did not. Cervical cancer is a rare outcome of HPV infection and in countries with cervical cancer screening programs cases of the disease and fatalities have more than halved and if a cancer is found early and treatment given, the 5 year survival rate is 72%.

    But in spite of these facts the FDA review date was scheduled for June 8 , 2006 whereupon the first HPV vaccine was approved and recommended for all women aged between 9-26 years even though it had not been tested for the prevention of precursor lesions in females younger than 15 years of age.

    Gardasil continues to be marketed and promoted to young girls and now boys for prevention against a disease they are most unlikely to ever get. There is no proof that HPV vaccines have ever prevented a single case of cervical cancer. But we do know there have been over 73,000 recorded serious adverse events after HPV vaccination along with hundreds of deaths.

    We need to turn this around. There are many awful things happening in the world today, but this one could be stopped tomorrow if there were a will.

    In the words of Dr Sherri Tenpenny,

    True health cannot come from a needle. Injecting people with something to try to keep them well is a 200 year mistake.

    Reprinted from Collective Evolution.
     
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    Sherri Tenpenny warns parents about safety of vaccines in NaturalNews interview


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    Thursday, February 03, 2011
    by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
    Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...)

    (NaturalNews) Are vaccines really safe and effective? More and more credentialed health professionals are beginning to question that assumption, and what they're finding out about the lack of real science behind theassumed safety and efficacy of vaccines is actually quite shocking.

    Today, Dr Sherri Tenpenny speaks out in an interview with the Health Ranger, posted on NaturalNews.TV: http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=4CD1FE39DDB898...

    In that interview, Dr Tenpenny says,

    "It seems as though the pharmaceutical industry looks at children as nothing more than a repository of their products, whatever those products are... whether they are a vaccine, an artificial coloring from the food industry, something in a pill such as a medication, and we see these kids, they're not healthy, they're pale, they just don't look healthy. And then the pharmaceutical industry paints these happy pictures that we have to keep vaccinating these kids to keep them healthy. And the pediatricians say because these kids are sick, we need to vaccinate them more!"

    Dr Tenpenny also calls out the huge conflicts of interest across the vaccine industry and pushers of vaccination policies, saying:

    "The money isn't really to be made in the vaccine industry. The money is made by Big Pharma with all of the drugs that are given to treat and address all the illnesses that are subsequent to the side effects of the vaccines."

    "If we could cut vaccination by 90 percent and get everybody's vitamin D levels up between 60 and 80 [ng / dl], we wouldn't have this health care problem that we have to tax everybody to death to try to take care of people. People would be healthy."

    About the underlying assumption that vaccines are a valid approach to health, Dr Tenpenny questions that, too, saying:

    "True health cannot come from a needle. Injecting people with something to try to keep them well is a 200 year mistake."

    Speaking on the executives of the vaccine companies who have knowingly released contaminated vaccines that harmed and killed innocent children, Dr Tenpenny says, "Some of them will go to jail. Because I'm sure that some of them know absolutely what's going on." She goes on to compare the behavior of the vaccine companies to ENRON.

    Here's what else you'll hear about in this interview
    • Why parents are waking up to the truth about vaccine dangers.

    • Why vaccines are related to our epidemic of asthma and allergies.

    • Why "vaccines are the backbone of the entire pharmaceutical industry" because they create lifelong disease requiring expensive medical treatments.

    • How vaccines are made with 63 different chemicals that may pose a grave risk of harm to human health.

    • Why there's no profit to be made in keeping people healthy, leading to the drug companies actually working to keep people stuck in a cycle of degenerative disease.

    • Why infection and temporary illness is actually an important part of boosting long-term immunity and health.

    • Why psychiatric drugs can cause young males to grow "man boobs."

    • Why there have never been any legitimate randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies on vaccines.

    Hear the full interview at:
    http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=4CD1FE39DDB898...

    Learn more about Dr Sherri Tenpenny at her clinic's website:
    http://tenpennyimc.com
     

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