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Traitor Trump

Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by Alton, Apr 13, 2017.



  1. Fanakapan

    Fanakapan Midas Member Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Agreed, if that were to happen even I'd be wondering if in reality the President was not in fact the Rodman dressed in a Donald Trump suit.

    If memory serves, the TPP issue was subject to a very early EO that was said at the time to effectively kill it dead ? So I'd have to wonder if those who are managing to sell so many 'Crocks' to the base, are not themselves surprised at how easy their job has been, and are now offering up ridiculous suggestions in order to see if there is any limit to the foolishness that folk will buy into :)
     
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    Trump has four years to make good on his promises and it won't be easy.
    If he doesn't lock up Hillary and knock off the no con crap to me no draining of a sink muck less a swap will have occurred.

    The boarder could be locked down yesterday it still had a 40 mile hole according to Brietbart for the non msm wary.

    Really put the military on the boarder.

    Where are the fine for companies hiring illegal workers?

    My guess is the by the end of Trump the middle-class will be barely hanging on as before and the rich a little fatter.

    The Republicans will have blown their load and another Liar will run and flip flop into the sunset.
     
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    Juristic Person They drew first blood Platinum Bling

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    What's up Keef! Where you hangin your hat these days? Good to drop in and still see some familiar faces in here...
     
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    Another funny thing is people are running around spouting poll numbers when the most incorrect thing in the last political cycle was the polls. All of 'em. But now they are real?

    Attention spans = zilch.

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    Mujahideen Black Member Midas Member

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    I will bet some silver to anyone here that trump doesn't even make a wholehearted attempt to lock up Hillary during his first term, any takers?
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    The whole lot of them, cnn, nbc, cbs ..................... can be brought to their knees !!
    We need to band together like the dem snowflakes do (they are far more driven than we are).
    It is simple, we need to gather up the huge list of advertiser's & write letters telling them that we will NOT buy their products as long as they support the news media's continued lies &/or ignoring some other news.
    AND ACTUALLY NOT BUY THOSE PRODUCTS, AS MUCH AS IT MAY HURT !
     
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    mayhem Rebel Fire Silver Miner Site Supporter

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    To me that was Trump's error. If he meant what he said before the election, and I believe he did, he should have taken it to the public, ya know us who elected him and said he was being compromised by the deep state.
    What do you think the people would have done? I don't want to hear "he was shown the JFK movie", as he already suspected that, and should have never run if he was scared for his life.
    Something really smells bad right now. I said when he fired Flynn (and you can look it up here) that the party was over. I'll just go back to what I was doing before this election, keeping my head down and powder dry. If for some reason they push me too far you will read about @ drudge, with a title like "Man in wheelchair goes postal and kills 10 politicians!" Heck they would change the word man to domestic terrest because of the camo shorts I'm wearing. But for now I'm not buying anything that comes out of Trump's mouth. He is morphing into just another DC scumbag looking out for himself. Word has it he's gained 63 pounds since the election, all in fried chicken and cheeseburgers. If true he won't last to long anyway.
     
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  8. Alton

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    Trump and the 10 commandments of the deep state seems to make Trump the Moses of the god of tyranny and corruption.

    trump_moses.jpg

    Here's a quote worth considering:
    Where does Donald Trump fit into this? Trump seems to have converted his erstwhile outsider beliefs to that of the deep state. The deep state way of thinking is as rigid as any extremist form of religion, communism or ultra-capitalism.

    It seems as though someone read Donald Trump the following 10 Commandments of The Deep State: 1. Thou shalt never be on the same side as Russia

    2. Thou shalt engage in destabilising military activities in the Arab world

    3. Thou shalt not challenge the authority of the CIA

    4. Thou shalt lie about the nature of Iranian politics and North Korean society

    5. Thou shalt never put America first for the deep state is the god of globalism.

    6. Thou shalt give Julian Assange as hard a time as possible.

    7. Thou shalt not challenge the role of the Federal Reserve and its priests

    8. Thou shalt not challenge or reform NATO

    9. Thou shalt show disrespect to the leaders of China whenever possible

    10. Thou shalt always be one-sided in the Israel-Palestine conflict Sadly, Donald Trump now adheres to each of the aforementioned commandments, even those who he actively promised to break during his campaign. For many, America's apparent readiness to now seek the arrest of Julian Assange is the straw that broke the camel's back.

    You can read the whole article here:
    The 10 Commandments of the deep state
     
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    Alton nailed it!!
     
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    Maybe when the POTUS gets inbriefed, one of the briefings is about how the Deep State will "kill you if you try to derail what we're doing" and then they let him read the full Kennedy report.
     
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  11. Alton

    Alton Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    Kind of like being informed about who the REAL government is?

    Perhaps then the time has come to wipe the slate and start all over again.
     
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    Just a little food for thought. Happy Manic Monday.

    You Got Trumped! Winning horse in presidential race was Trojan
    By: David Haggith
    Has there ever been a bigger or worse April fools joke than the spectacle this month of Donald Trump revealing the manifold ways in which he fooled the multitudes? I sympathize with the many people who hoped for a shot at changing the corrupt political-industrial establishment as they feel their opportunity evaporate around them. Their hopes were the best hope this nation had, but the head-spinning transformation of Trump has turned stomachs to where some of Trump’s most ardent campaign supporters now publicly deem him Traitor Trump.
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Another plate of thought.

    Don't be too quick to turn on Trump. I think he was compromised (by the men in black).
    Shortly after the inauguration, Trump was hauled into the "backroom" & informed of "the rules", then further informed of the consequences of not falling in line with the rules.
    It could have gone like this: (with some tongue in cheek) "Mr. Trump, we are here from the government, we are here to help.
    You will follow our orders or you will suffer the consequences. No, Mr. Trump, we will not harm you, but we will let you watch, while we harm your 10 year old son."
    I assure you that a conversation of this nature would bring anyone into line !
     
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    Mujahideen Black Member Midas Member

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    I guess the same could be said for obama then? Obama was just protecting his children...

    True leaders lead. Anything else is a puppet.
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    They are all puppets of the deep state.
    There was no need to intimidate Obama.
    Obama was groomed by & put in by the deep state to do their dirty work & he did it well !!
    He will never be punished !
     
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    The only difference between Bush, Clinton, Obama and Trump is the ACT. Politics is like a Hollywood movie. Everyone you watch is an actor following a script.
     
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    We get a tarriff war. Congrats American voters. You voted to raise your own prices.
     
  18. TAEZZAR

    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Not really. Don't buy imports & you won't be paying any extra.
    It will also raise their prices so our products will be more competitive w/o lowering our prices.
     
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    Not making any statement, just posting as a little food for thought. Take it fwiw and dyodd.

    You Got Trumped! The Donald’s personal military revolution is just Trump change
    By: David Haggith
    Nowhere has Donald Trump matched up with the original story of the Trojan horse more than in his overtures of peace, instead of military conflict. Nowhere has Trump changed more than in these same issues. Candidate Trump frequently persuaded his supporters to believe he would build more peaceful and cooperative relations with Russia and ridiculed the regime-change efforts of Hillary’s warmongering ways
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Sometimes a show of strength will quell an up rising !
     
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    A little more food for thought.

    You Got Trumped! Trump not yellin’ about Yellen anymore!
    By: David Haggith
    Trump does know a lot about what sounds good. Candidate Trump always said he loved a strong dollar. Now that he’s the president who benefits from this easy economic juice, he’s reversed positions on low interest and high dollar. Some of Trump’s supporters might wish he’d gotten honest with them about all of this a lot sooner, instead of just sounding good because this month brought another massive change from a guy whose orange color and constant flip-flopping make him look more like King Salmon than anti-establishment president.
     
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    President Trump is profiting from public pensions invested in same firm that owns his namesake hotel in NYC and pays him millions to manage property
    • President Trump is paid to run the Trump Soho by the same investment firm the manages hundreds of millions of dollars in public pensions from seven states
    • In 2015 and the first five months of 2016, Trump International Hotels Management LLC drew at least $3.1million from the Soho property
    • President Trump also received $3.3million in income from the hotel management company according to records and campaign filings
    • The Trump Soho is owned by the Los Angeles investment group the CIM Group through one of its real estate funds, which also manages public pensions
    • That arrangement, which was discovered following a review of public records, could put Trump at risk of violating an obscure constitutional clause
    • The Trump Soho has become the hotel of choice for celebrities while visiting the Big Apple on press trips since opening its doors in 2008


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4447050/A-New-York-hotel-deal-shows-public-pension-funds-help-enrich-Trump.html#ixzz4fMdwF51k
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    This is only an issue because the left is digging to find whatever they can, to cry about.
    Evidently, the investment firm is not competent to run it themselves.

    Where were they on the birth cert. or college records ????
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    He is certainly spot on here.
    The bottom line is that Yellen’s Federal Reserve remains fully in charge of the economy, and the Fed is nothing but a legal cabal of the nations greatest bankers. (If you are not aware of how the Fed is NOT government and is owned wholly by banks, read “The US Federal Reserve for Dummies: What is the Federal Reserve System and What is the Gold Standard?.”

    BUT, here is quite the rub. Interesting that the "government" appoints the head of a private institution. WTF !!!!!

    A lot of Candidate Trump’s supporters liked it when he often hinted that Janet Yellen would have to go once he got elected, just like they liked it when he was going to lock up crooked Hillary. Last Wednesday, however, Trump aligned himself completely with the nation’s central bank even to the point of indicating he may actually reappoint Janet Yellen for a second four-year term as Fed Head.
     
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    A little more food for thought. Take it fwiw and dyodd.

    You Got Trumped: Bannon banned and Cohn-Kushner establishment advanced


    -- Published: Friday, 28 April 2017

    By David Haggith

    President Trump, how’s that swamp drainage project going?
    Another big move in the last couple of weeks has been the sidelining of Trump’s chief strategist Steve Bannon as the Goldman-Sachs group wins more influence in the White House. Bannon has been the guardian of the anti-establishment hopes that put Candidate Trump in office.

    Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), one of the president’s most vocal backers on Capitol Hill, said he’s been disheartened by the chief strategist’s isolation. “A lot of us look at Steve Bannon as the voice of conservatism in the White House,” said King, who has known Bannon for years. (Politico)

    As Newsmax reports,

    In a White House marked by infighting, top economic aide Gary Cohn, a Democrat and former Goldman Sachs banker, is muscling aside some of President Donald Trump’s hard-right advisers to push more moderate, business-friendly economic policies…. More than half a dozen sources on Wall Street and in the White House said Cohn has gained the upper hand over Trump’s chief strategist, Steve Bannon, the former head of the right-wing website Breitbart News…. White House sources say he will lead the charge for Trump on top domestic priorities such as tax reform, infrastructure and deregulation…. Crucially, Cohn also has the trust of Jared Kushner, Trump’s adviser and son-in-law, and his wife Ivanka, Trump’s daughter.

    The family business
    Cohn and Kushner met at Goldman Sachs when Kushner was an intern there. Jared Kushner is, of course, the president’s son-in-law, married to Ivanka Trump. It was Kushner who paved the way for Cohn to meet Donald Trump after Trump became president-elect. Trump and Cohn did not know each other during the campaign.

    Kushner and Bannon, on the other hand, largely butted heads in the months that followed the election. In a family business, it doesn’t pay to run at odds with the family, and the White House seems to be running as a family business.

    While Trump seems to thrive on chaos and conflict as a leadership principle, the conflict became too much even for him, so two weeks ago he ordered Bannon and Kushner to find a way to “knock it off” and make it work. Trump moved Bannon out of his involvement in intelligence affairs and then began to undercut him publicly in interviews.

    “I am my own strategist,” Mr. Trump told the New York Post columnist Michael Goodwin in an interview on Tuesday, a pointed reference to what aides described as his growing irritation that Mr. Bannon’s allies are calling him the mastermind behind Mr. Trump’s victory…. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, Mr. Trump made clear Mr. Bannon’s subordinate role, calling him “a guy who works for me.” (The New York Times)

    Of course, the New York Times hates Bannon, who has attacked The Times, and would love to see him lose his office. They refer to him as …

    the self-proclaimed deconstructor of the “administrative state” and field general in the war against the “opposition party” news media.

    “Opposition party news media.” That would be the NYT. Nevertheless, the diminishing words about Bannon did come from Trump’s mouth. When asked if he still has confidence in Bannon, Trump’s refusal to endorse him was readily apparent:

    I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn’t know Steve. I’m my own strategist and it wasn’t like I was going to change strategies because I was facing crooked Hillary…. Steve is a good guy, but I told them to straighten it out or I will. (The New York Post)

    Damned by faint praise.

    According to White House gossip reported in Axios,

    Bannon allies inside and outside the White House were taken by surprise when Goodwin’s column posted, and are distraught. Bannon allies are bitter about the role they believe economic adviser Gary Cohn has played in undercutting their guy to POTUS. In private conversations, they call him “Globalist Gary.”

    Axios … is told that President Trump didn’t like the stories about Bannon as the Svengali, or leaks against Jared and Ivanka, or planted stories that he blamed Bannon for. It was less than 10 weeks ago that Bannon appeared on the cover of TIME as “THE GREAT MANIPULATOR,” with the inside story asking if he was “the Second Most Powerful Man in the World.”

    Bannon got crosswise with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, who are pushing for a more competence- and results-driven focus for the West Wing. In their view, Bannon is too inclined to want to burn things down and blow things up. (“Trump plans centrist push and Priebus is on board“)

    I call it gossip because sources are, as is standard journalism now, nameless.

    It seems likely as several news outlets have said that Bannon is losing Trump’s support because Trump’s most-botched moves, such as the Obamacare repeal and the immigrant travel ban, have been the ones Bannon orchestrated, and the president doesn’t like losing or losing face. That much we know from Trump’s public history. By undermining Bannon publicly, Trump has given Kushner the dominant role in the background at the White House. (People follow the flow of power. You can be sure everyone in the White House has figured out where the power portal to POTUS is.)

    Goldman sacks the White House
    The increase of Goldman-Sachs influence also progressed when GS executive and friend of Ivanka, Dina Powell, was upgraded a couple of weeks ago to deputy national security advisor after former Fox News personality K.T. McFarland was “promoted” to become Ambassador to Singapore. (Trump is on both his second national security advisor, after Michael Flynn was removed, and second deputy national security advisor in three months.)

    Powell is also a senior advisor for economic initiatives. (The latter has nothing to do with her official office, but those Goldman Gals can’t keep their fingers out of White House economic policy.) Goldman patriarch Lloyd Blankfein keeps the Goldman Gang together with occasional reunions with Cohn at the Four Seasons. All told, five former Goldman execs have taken major government positions. This is a much better season of influence for Goldman than its usual two or three high placements.

    All in the family
    As equally concerning as Goldman’s deeply embedded positions in the Administration is Jerad Kushner, himself. At the risk of presenting what may be more gossip (but certainly appears to match what can be observed):

    Kushner has taken aggressive action to micro-manage the NSC, overshadowing even recently installed National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, according to sources both inside and outside the White House who described Kushner’s behavior as highly unusual and damaging to the country’s national security infrastructure. Never before has a White House permitted such a figure to intervene in the NSC, which is traditionally given leeway to investigate foreign policy matters and bring advice to the president. Sources who spoke to the Free Beacon described wide-ranging frustration at the NSC over Kushner’s influence over some of the most important foreign policy portfolios, such as Iraq, Israel, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, and China, among others. Senior NSC staff are finding their hands tied when it comes to performing even perfunctory duties, such as talking points and statements on high profile issues that must go through Kushner for approval. Sources who spoke to the Free Beacon described this level of involvement as kneecapping the NSC and contributing to its difficulties formulating policy.” (The Washington Free Beacon)

    Jared Kushner’s experience is in commercial real estate. He has absolutely no experience with national security and intelligence gathering, yet he seems to be micromanaging all aspects of both, and he seems to have assumed Reince Priebus’s role as Chief of Staff in deciding what information and what people go before the president. Like his friend Cohn, he’s also a Democrat.

    Officials working at the NSC, State Department, and Department of Defense “are not happy that Jared is so powerful in foreign policy,” said one White House official. “They are expected to implement the president’s agenda, but have no input or ability to get ideas in front of Jared. It’s a one-man show and that’s creating a lot of frustration.” The installation of Dina Powell [who also has no national security experience], a confidant of Kushner’s wife Ivanka, to the NSC is said to have been orchestrated by Kushner in order to solidify his power over the foreign policy organization, sources said. This helps Kushner keep tabs on the NSC’s day-to-day operations

    It seems the White House has become a family business, and those in the most powerful positions are liberal Democrats! Most of the chief economic advisors are from Goldman Sachs. I even note that Jared Kushner has been acting like a surrogate for the Secretary of State with his international meetings.

    None of that seems like a business structure that naturally leads to looking out for the middle class or that sounds like there is anyone, other than the increasingly isolated Bannon, looking out for all of Trump’s conservative campaign promises, but it may help explain why we’re seeing so much slippage from those promises after the inauguration.

    Looks to me like the president drained the swamp into the White House; but, hey, at least that means the rest of Washington should be getting better. For those who are convinced that Trump is just playing an elaborate game of 4D chess, I’m sure he’s just brilliantly using the White House as a corral to round up the worst of Wall Street into one place so he can shoot them all. He’ll be making a really big announcement shortly about how he defeated Goldman Sachs, the banksters he ridiculed during his campaign when crooked Hillary was making big money just for speaking to them.

    http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/bannon-banned-cohn-kushner/

    http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1493388000.php
     
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    This is tough to look at in a positive light !
     
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    Not making any statements. Just more food for thought. Take it fwiw and dyodd.

    Happy Manic Monday!


    You Got Trumped! Trump rapidly losing strongest supporters
    By: David Haggith
    Maybe Trump didn’t realize that all of his supporters actually expected him to deliver on all of his hard-edged statements. Or maybe he was Trojan Trump from the get go, just as I postulated many months ago to the outrage of many of my fellow anti-establishment readers who wanted to believe Trump was their champion.
     
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    The budget passed today, spit in the face of Trump supporters. I see his support weakening from now on. VERY DISAPPOINTED !
     
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    Not too happy with Trump so far. I do, however, have confidence that he is much brighter and more informed than I. Just have to wait and see what happens in the next 2 years. As far as the wall, why have a wall when you have drones? I think a guard tower with a landing strip every 50 miles would be more than sufficient. Whats more important is passing laws that mean the security will never go away.

    I think some of the libtards have a point. You can't see past a wall to view what exactly is encroaching on you. Also, I fear that if the SHTF, it will double to wall us in..
     
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    1. We need a wall.
    2. Ryan is the first traitor.
    3. We need real tax reform.
    4. Trump may yet veto the spending bill, but I doubt it.
    5. Maybe Trump allows the spending bill to go through so he can get healthcare fixed?
     
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    southfork Mother Lode Found Mother Lode

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    No wall money, sending 300m to Puerto Rico, continued funding for ocare and sancturary cities, and more, a complete fkin sell out if he signs it which i have no doubt he will. fkiin dems got everything they wanted, how the fk can he justify this?? It no chess game he sold the base out on all his promises
     
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    tom baxter back from 2004

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    Certainly looks that way. I personally don't know why a rational person would have thought otherwise. He's a billionaire, of course he's on the side the side of the monied elite, he is a monied elite. All I can put it down to is those TV shows he ran where he was trying to help people find work. But that's just TV, you don't believe crap you see on reality TV.
     
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    southfork Mother Lode Found Mother Lode

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    Voted for Rand Paul in primary, it was either vote for Trump or Clinton, no way in hell I would vote for her. Ive said in many conversations I didn't think he knows how corrupted the system really is and Im being proven right.
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Half an hour ago, I posted this in the Politics forum.

    Obsolete — Full Documentary Official (2016)

    Watch this video, I think it explains the horrible direction we are being forced to go & maybe why Trump ran & why he won.
    The decent people do not like what is happening, we want REAL change.
    We have such a massive problem that no one person can turn it around rapidly. Trump has to see this.
    Let's hope he is trying to turn the trends around without a civil war.
    The political machine is not his friend & his fight is a hard one.
    Give him some slack, for our only other choice is not pretty !!!!

    I agree !
     
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