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Trump, Israel & The Middle East

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  1. searcher

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    US secures $285M cut in UN budget
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    Avery Anapol
    10 hrs ago


    The U.S. Mission to the United Nations announced Sunday that it negotiated a major reduction in the U.N.'s budget for the upcoming fiscal years.

    According to a statement from the mission, the 2018-2019 U.N. budget will have a $285 million reduction from the previous two years.

    "In addition to these significant cost savings, we reduced the UN's bloated management and support functions, bolstered support for key U.S. priorities throughout the world, and instilled more discipline and accountability throughout the UN system," the statement reads.

    One of the Trump administration's goals has been to reduce the amount of contributions that the U.S. makes to the U.N. The U.S. currently provides for about 22 percent of the annual budget, or about $3.3 billion per year, according to PolitiFact.

    The U.N. General Assembly previously approved a $5.4 billion operating budget for 2016 and 2017. The regular budget is separate from the body's budget for its sprawling peacekeeping operations, which totaled $7.8 billion for 2017 alone.

    U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley said that the budget cut announced Sunday is a "big step in the right direction" for the U.S., and that she will continue to pursue "ways to increase the UN's efficiency while protecting our interests."

    "The inefficiency and overspending of the United Nations are well known," Haley said. "We will no longer let the generosity of the American people be taken advantage of or remain unchecked. This historic reduction in spending - in addition to many other moves toward a more efficient and accountable UN - is a big step in the right direction."

    Conservatives have long criticized the U.N. as not being in the U.S.'s interests, and many have amplified their concerns after the global body overwhelmingly voted for a resolution last week to oppose President Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

    Trump suggested earlier this month that the U.S. may cut off foreign aid to nations who voted for the U.N. resolution, and Haley said that the U.S. would be "taking names."

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...-in-un-budget/ar-BBHiW7s?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
     
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    'The winds of war are blowing': The Pope warns of the risk of global conflict in Christmas address as he calls on Israelis and Palestinians to 'resume dialogue' after Trump recognized Jerusalem
    • Pope Francis called for peace in Jerusalem in his traditional Christmas address
    • He urged the world's 1.3 bn Catholics to not to ignore migrants fleeing danger
    • 'The winds of war are blowing,' encouraging on Israel and Palestine to talk
    • It comes a short while after President Trump was accused on fanning flame by recognizing Jerusalem


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5209613/Jerusalem-tensions-cast-shadow-Holy-Land-Christmas.html#ixzz52HOqDdNr
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    the_shootist The war is here on our doorstep! Midas Member Site Supporter ++

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    Not interested in the any Christmas message from the commie bastard in a robe!
     
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    Peace keeping operations?
    Where exactly has the UN brought peace?
    Nowhere that I have knowledge of.
    Do some research on UN "peacekeepers" and child molestation.
    Or here's one, the UN "peacekeepers" that came to Haiti brought and spread deadly cholera.
    Reported by the Globalist National People's Radio of all the mouthpieces.
    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...ti-cholera-outbreak-that-has-killed-thousands

    Get US out of the United Nations!
     
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    POTUS Trump is a Zionist Christian.

    Did you notice that he was hanging with Evangelical leader Jerry Falwell Jr last week?

    Zionist Christians believe that the U.S. is obligated to preserve Jerusalem in preparation for the Messiah's Second Coming; literally interpreting the book of Revelation chapter 21 and the new Jerusalem.

    All the while leading us into World War X.
     
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    US cuts funding for UN, citing inefficiency and overspending
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    Published on Dec 25, 2017
    The U.S. goverment has decided to slash its contribution to the United Nations budget, for the coming year.
    Ambassador Nikki Haley gave a statement, explaining the move.
    Read more: https://on.rt.com/8vls
     
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    Nice start. Now cut ALL foreign aid. every. single. copper zinc. penny.
     
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    Wowzer, cut spending because of inefficiency and overspending, if we did this in America, we could solve the National Debt...If we applied the same standards to Israel, the middle east would resolve itself.
     
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    Capital shift: US proposes 12,000-dweller village as capital of Palestine
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    Published on Dec 29, 2017
    The US ambassador to Israel has said Palestinians 'overreacted' to Donald Trump's decision, in an 'ugly' and 'anti-Semitic' way. Meanwhile, it's been revealed Washington proposed to make a small West Bank village the Palestinian capital, as part of a bigger peace plan. RT's Paula Slier visited the village, called Abu Dis.
     
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    Palestinians remove their envoy from Washington in protest after President Trump proclaims Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel and plans to move U.S. embassy there
    • The Palestinian envoy to Washington is being temporarily called back for consultations over the future of relations with the U.S.
    • The move was caused by President Trump's decision to move the U.S. embassy to Israel to Jerusalem, proclaiming the city to be Israel's capital
    • Trump's annnouncement reversed decades-worth of foreign policy and rattled the Middle East


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5224945/Palestinians-call-envoy-US-talks-future-ties.html#ixzz52sBUqC8i
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    Yes, he is a stooge, not to Israeli (they only have their own cabal nothing more), but to TPTB.


    He did it because he is a suck up to criminal, evil elements. Just like all the others before him, Obummer, Mr. Awol, Cigar-cheat,... and so on...

    It was a quick 5 min. phone call, after viewing the real footage of the JFK incident, the POTUS usually just replies, "Yes, yes sir," and the conversation is over.

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    Now Trump warns he could end aid to Palestinians saying they show 'no appreciation' for payments and 'don't even want to negotiate peace'
    • President Trump tweeted the U.S. gets no 'appreciation or respect' from the Palestinians despite providing aid
    • He said that the U.S. had taken status of Jerusalem 'off the table'
    • He complained: 'They don’t even want to negotiate a long overdue peace treaty with Israel'
    • 'Why should we make any of these massive future payments to them?'
    • Trump tweeted on Monday that said the U.S. had 'foolishly' given Pakistan $33 billion and received 'lies & deceit' in return
    • Trump's administration had been threatening to keep the $255 million over Pakistan's alleged ties to the Haqqani network, since August
    • UN ambassador Nikki Haley confirmed Tuesday that assistance to Pakistan would continue to be withheld until Islamabad stops backing terrorists


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5230115/Now-Trump-warns-end-aid-Palestinians.html#ixzz537Qyr5r7
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    Neither side will make good faith efforts to talk peace, can we take back OUR money and go home? Boycott Israhell now!
     
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    It's too late ...........

     
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    Jerusalem is 'not for sale', Palestine's president says after Trump threatened to cut the state's $300million annual aid to force it to negotiate
    • Trump sparked outrage by recognising Jerusalem as Israel's capital last month
    • Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas said US could now no longer play any role in the Middle East peace process
    • US President then threatened to cut aid worth more than $300million annually
    • Abbas's spokesman hit back saying Jerusalem 'is not for sale for gold or billions'


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5231445/Palestinians-say-wont-blackmailed-Trump-threat.html#ixzz538f0gnhy
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    'Jerusalem is not for sale’: Palestinians angered by Trump’s threat to cut $300mn aid
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    Published on Jan 3, 2018
    A spokesperson for Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has said that Jerusalem is not for sale, responding to a threat by US President Donald Trump to cut annual aid to the Palestinian Authority.
     
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    Trump To Present Mideast Peace Plan "With Or Without The Palestinians"
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    by Tyler Durden
    Fri, 02/02/2018 - 01:00


    A 'post hoc' attempt to present the US as a sincere broker in the peace process?

    Axios reports that amidst the current complete disconnect in relations between the White House and the Palestinian Authority there is serious consideration underway of moving forward with President Trump's Middle East peace plan with or without the Palestinians at the negotiating table.

    A senior administration official told the diplomatic correspondent for Israel's Channel 10 news Barak Ravid that Trump may simply place his plan before the world "so the parties and international community can judge it at face value." As quoted in Axios, the senior official elaborated on the plan as follows:

    "Since it's not done, we haven’t decided yet how we are going to put it forward and what happens if one of the sides isn't ready to come to the table. We are not there yet. But we are very optimistic that all relevant countries who want to support a peace agreement between the two sides are still waiting for our plan, want to work with us and realize we cannot be replaced. Despite all of the false reports about our plan, we are confident it will be beneficial to both sides and both peoples."

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    Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu with President Trump in Jerusalem during a May 2017 visit. Image source: AP via Politico

    As recently as a week ago Trump repeated his threat of cutting US aid to the Palestinian territories, telling reporters at the World Economic Forum in Davos that he could cut $700 million in annual U.S. aid "unless they sit down and negotiate peace."

    Trump has frequently visited the subject following the fierce international reaction to the early December move which gave formal US recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which includes plans to relocate the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem by the end of 2019. At Davos, just before a planned meeting held on the sidelines of the economic summit with Israel's prime minister, Trump heightened his rhetoric, saying of the Palestinian side represented by Mahmoud Abbas, "They're going to have to want to make peace, or we're going to have nothing to do with them any longer."

    Trump added further, "We give them tremendous amounts, hundreds of millions of dollars. That money is on the table, because why should we do that as a country if they're doing nothing for us?" And concluded by saying he simply wants "peace" and "to save lives": "And what we want to do is help them. We want to create peace and save lives. And we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. But the money is on the table."

    The December 6th announcement unleashed a wave of protest among Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza, and Jerusalem which resulted in multiple deaths during clashes with Israel security forces. Dozens of rockets were also launched out of Gaza, with Hamas leadership calling for a new 'intifada' - or mass uprising against Israeli occupation - soon after Trump's announcement. In addition, Vice President Mike Pence was twice forced to push back plans to visit Jerusalem and the West Bank town of Bethlehem, the latter which was canceled altogether as Palestinian officials declared their intent to snub the vice president during this visit.

    Pence finally made the trip less than two weeks ago but failed to meet with Palestinian leadership, and gave a speech before Israel's Knesset wherein he reaffirmed Trump's commitment taking the next steps necessary to making the US recognition of Jerusalem a reality on the ground, saying "In the weeks ahead, our administration will advance its plan to open the United States Embassy in Jerusalem, and that United States Embassy will open before the end of next year [2019]." He further said, "Our president made his decision in the best interest of the United States,” and added, "The United States has chosen fact over fiction" while peppering his speech heavily with Old Testament references throughout while pledging to "stand with Israel because we believe in right over wrong, in good over evil, and in liberty over tyranny."

    Palestinian officials have claimed that the US under Trump has fully abandoned its role as an "honest broker" - however its unlikely that the Palestinians ever genuinely perceived the Americans in that role to begin with, as US aid to Israel - the bulk of it in the form of military support - has for years been in the billions per year. In 2016 the US signed off on a record $38 billion military aid package to Israel over the next decade. Abbas recently summarized the Palestinian Authority's reaction to the Jerusalem move by slamming the decision as the "slap of the century" .

    And CNN reported the Palestinian Authority's reaction to Trump's Davos comments, as well as its view of the future prospect of a peace plan, as follows:

    "If Jerusalem is off the table, then America is off the table as well," President Mahmoud Abbas' official spokesman Nabil Abu Rudeineh said in a phone call with CNN, reiterating that Palestinians no longer recognize the US as a mediator in any peace negotiations with Israel.

    There will be no negotiations, Abu Rudeineh said, until the current American administration abides by international law and agrees to work toward a two-state solution, which would see a state of Palestine created along 1967 lines with East Jerusalem as its capital.

    Per the Axios report, should the White House move ahead to present a Trump peace plan before the international community it will likely be a mere post hoc attempt to present Trump as a sincere broker in the peace process. A December 21 United Nations vote to condemn the US Jerusalem recognition was dubbed a "stunning rebuke" of the US President's decision after 128 countries voted against the US and Israel, and with 35 abstaining.

    While Palestinian officials saw the move as a final nail in the coffin concerning the peace process, Trump ironically presented it as "the beginning of a new approach to conflict between Israel and Palestinians."

    He said during the December 6 speech rolling out of the plan, "This is a long overdue step to advance the peace process and work towards a lasting agreement." Trump generally framed the decision as a way to put his own stamp on one of history’s oldest conflicts. "The record is in: after more than two decades of waivers, we are no closer to a lasting peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians," the president said at the time. "It would be folly to assume that repeating the exact same formula would now produce a different or better result."

    According to Axios' report today, "Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu said he will react to the Trump plan after he sees it but stressed he is ready to renew peace talks." No doubt, the Israelis now see the US as firmly in their corner after the Jerusalem recognition, in line with the long-running Jewish claim on the contested capital.

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    Meanwhile, Axios summarizes the latest developments as follows:

    • U.S. special envoy Jason Greenblatt held a series of meetings with Netanyahu, his advisers and several ministers over the last two weeks. Greenblatt also met with opposition leader Hertzog and briefed EU member states representatives in Tel-Aviv and East Jerusalem. He did not meet with any Palestinian officials but met with Palestinian students and private sector executives.

    • On Wednesday, Greenblatt participated in an emergency meeting of the donor countries to the Palestinian Authority. The meeting focused on the crisis in the peace process and on the humanitarian situation in Gaza. The Palestinian Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah also participated in the meeting. It was the first time senior Palestinian and U.S. officials were around the same table since the Jerusalem announcement. Greenblatt and Hamdallah shook hands but didn’t hold a meeting.

    • In his speech during the plenary meeting, Greenblatt referred to Hamdallah and said he hopes that the fact he is participating shows the Palestinians are still committed to the efforts to renew the peace process. Greenblatt also said President Trump's announcement was just a recognition of reality and the connection of Israel and the Jewish people to Jerusalem. Greenblatt also said in his speech: "Did the President’s decision prejudge any final status issues? No. We have not taken a position on borders".

    • Greenblatt stressed that the Trump administration continues drafting its peace plan and called on the Palestinians to return to the peace talks: "Peace will not be achieved by walking away from negotiations. It is easy to walk away from the table. But that helps no one, and it reduces or perhaps eliminates the chances of achieving a comprehensive peace agreement. And that would be terrible for the Palestinian people".
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-01/trump-present-mideast-peace-plan-or-without-palestinians
     
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    Will Washington's Chess Game In Syria Lead To War With NATO Ally Turkey?
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    Fri, 02/02/2018 - 02:00


    Authored by Darius Shatahmasebi via TheAntiMedia.org,

    It’s not clear if the United States knows what it is doing in Syria anymore. Having successfully toppled the Libyan government in 2011, former President Barack Obama subsequently spent a good three years attempting to bring about the fall of the Syrian government, under the guise of humanitarianism, that embroiled the region in chaos and civil strife.

    Incessant calls for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to formally step down, combined with the billions of dollars in arms and funding for radical Sunni jihadists who sowed the seeds of sectarianism and a bloody civil war in order to divide and conquer Syria, plagued Obama’s foreign policy for years. And let’s not forget the extensive strike plan Obama drew up in 2013, which would have almost certainly extinguished Assad’s presidency.

    Unfortunately for the establishment, Obama’s strike plan didn’t have the approval of America’s warmongering partner in crime, the United Kingdom; and was strongly opposed by Russia. Most importantly, there was significant disapproval among the general public and military, and the U.S. knew it would never garner the support needed to carry out such an intervention.

    Then in 2014, the U.S. military found backdoor access by riding the international outrage and horror provoked by the radical group ISIS, which had attained huge swaths of territory in both Iraq and Syria. Anyone who had been paying attention knew deep-down that the focus on ISIS was essentially just a façade to pave the way for the U.S. military to take on Assad directly — though this scenario proved much harder than expected, after Russia’s formal intervention in 2015. With Russia backing the Syrian government directly, there was little the U.S. could do but direct most of its energy towards ISIS, with some minor, albeit noticeable, exceptions.

    And then came Donald Trump, the alleged Russian stooge and lackey, who was going to focus on making America great again and who had proposed instead to work with Assad and Russia. Whether or not Trump has any say in the matter is unclear, but it became quickly apparent that the war-hawks in his administration are just as schizophrenic as their predecessors.

    Working Through the Plan Alphabet and Back Around to Plan A


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    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, right, waves after speaking to the Hoover Institution at Stanford University with former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, left, in Stanford, Calif., Wednesday, Jan. 17, 2018. In a speech at Stanford University, Tillerson signaled a deeper American commitment to the Mideast nation of Syria, saying the U.S. military will remain there for the foreseeable future. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson initially maintained that Assad had to leave, but then appeared to change his mind. Trump’s ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, only added to the confusion. Barely days after this flip-flop, a chemical weapons attack in April last year immediately brought us back to another strike plan on the Syrian government; and the go-to mantra ever since appears to renew the longstanding call for Assad’s departure.

    But why did the U.S. want to remove Assad so badly that it justified manufacturing an entire bombing campaign against another force? There are many competing theories, but Assad as a stalwart Iranian and Russian ally poses a major threat to the U.S. empire, as well as to adversarial states such as Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    In 2009, Qatar put forward a proposal to run a pipeline through Syria and Turkey and into Europe to export gas from Saudi Arabia. The Assad government instead forged an agreement with Iran and Iraq to run a pipeline into Europe — leaving out Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey completely. If these kinds of deals can be arranged under the cover of Russian air power, the United States risks losing out much of the region and its spoils to Russia and Iran.

    Now that ISIS has been successfully (more or less) “defeated,” the U.S. is openly staying in Syria indefinitely to counter both Assad and Iran’s alleged expanding influence. Tillerson put it bluntly in mid-January this year:

    “Continued strategic threats to the U.S. other than ISIS persist. I am referring principally to Iran. Iran has dramatically strengthened its presence in Syria by deploying Iranian Revolutionary Guard troops; supporting Lebanese Hezbollah; and importing proxy forces from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere. Through its position in Syria, Iran is in a stronger position to extend its track record of attacking U.S. interests, allies and personnel in the region.”

    “Syria remains a source of severe strategic problems and a major challenge for our diplomacy,” Tillerson added. “But the United States will continue to remain engaged.”

    The U.S.-Turkey Debacle


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    Turkish troops take control of Bursayah hill, which separates the Kurdish-held enclave of Afrin from the Turkey-controlled town of Azaz, Syria, Sunday, Jan. 28, 2018. Turkish troops and allied Syrian fighters captured the strategic hill in northwestern Syria after intense fighting on Sunday as their offensive to root out Kurdish fighters enters its second week, Turkey’s military and Syrian war monitor reported. (DHA-Depo Photos via AP)

    As reports began to emerge of Washington’s plan to build a 30,000-strong Kurdish and Arab force on Turkey’s border in Syria, it became quite clear that Turkey itself was days away from invading Syria directly. To no one’s great surprise, the Turkish military intervened in the days that followed, most notably in the city of Afrin, before announcing it would extend its operations right up to the border with Iraq.

    The U.S. surely knew this would happen, yet continued to antagonize both parties to the fullest extent possible. Neither the U.S. nor Turkey has the legal basis to conduct military operations in Syria, yet the two of them believe they have the right to call the shots as to the best way of handling the situation. First, Turkey urged the U.S. to leave the area of Manbij because that is where the Turks have set their sights, getting closer to the border with Iraq. A top U.S. general immediately responded by saying the U.S. had no intention of leaving Manbij at all, further aggravating the situation.

    The only consistent strategy employed by the U.S. that can be ascertained (to a point) is that of maximizing the chaos in Syria. Even as we speak, Russia has begun a peace process of its own in Sochi. Why did the U.S. decide to announce its unlimited troop presence in Syria days before the peace talks were to commence; and do they genuinely believe their presence in Syria contributes to any meaningful peace for that country?

    Just as disturbing is America’s unrivaled ability to commit itself to wars left, right and center without any domestic democratic accountability or approval from the international community. As The New York Times notes, this new Syria strategy is “illegal under both the Constitution and international law.” It was illegal when Barack Obama began a covert war of aggression to topple the Syrian government as far back as 2011; it was illegal right up until he began bombing Syrian territory in 2014; and everything the United States has done right through the Trump administration until today is equally illegal.

    The Times’ assessment that allows for the U.S. to be in Syria solely to defeat ISIS is questionable at best; but it proves one thing: not even the warmongering mainstream media can put a positive legal spin on the plan to stay in Syria to confront Assad and Iran: because there is no legal basis to do so.

    As it stands, the U.S.’ strategy in Syria is beginning to make less sense by the day. Turkey, a longstanding opponent of the Assad government, now might be working to establish a formal dialogue with Assad himself, to counter what it deems to be the principal threat: the U.S.-backed Kurds.

    According to Robert Fisk, reporting from on the ground in Syria, the city of Afrin hasn’t even been bombed by Turkey yet, while Turkey has been continuously threatening a grand offensive to retake the city. That’s because it’s Russia, not the U.S., that controls the airspace over the city of Afrin, and any incursion into Afrin would most likely need Russian approval. By Fisk’s research, if Turkey’s army wanted to take Afrin, it could do so in less than half an hour. So far, there have been signs of violence around Afrin, but not in Afrin itself. Indications are that Turkey is relying on its newfound proxy force instead, in the hopes of re-establishing a sizeable anti-Assad force of its own — one that can continue to fight for Turkey’s interests without compromising its position on the Kurdish question.

    There’s a reason that Turkey is arresting journalists and critics of the invasion by the hundreds even as I type. With Western media relying on state-approved Turkish correspondents without the capacity for dissent, it is unlikely that those of us on the outside are getting the full picture. Fisk is most likely the only journalist on the ground who won’t be simply echoing Erdogan’s narrative, and already he has alleged that Turkey is conducting outright civilian massacres, not “surgical” strikes on “terrorists.”

    Turkey is a member of NATO. It has invaded Syria just as the U.S. has, but with what appear to be polar-opposite interests.

    According to Haaretz, the real reason Turkey is involving itself in the region is not to stop an independent Kurdish state, but to stop Assad from incorporating the current Kurdish political infrastructure into his own future Syrian state. Haaretz explains:

    “Russia knows the survival of Assad’s regime and his control of the entire country depends to a large extent on his ability to assimilate the Kurdish districts into Syria, with the ideal scenario being one that allows the Kurds to run their federation as part of the Syrian state under Assad’s rule. The United States also sees the Kurdish federal system in Syria and the principles of the Kurdish constitution as being no less worthy of defending than the Kurdish region in Iraq.”

    The media won’t admit it outright, but this too is a deal-breaker for the U.S., and hanging the Kurds out to dry and drawing Turkey into a direct confrontation might be the principal way in which the U.S. can continue to dismantle any hopes for a unified Syria in the not-too-distant future.

    Where Are We Headed?


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    A U.S.-backed anti-government fighter mans a heavy automatic machine gun, left, next to an American soldier as they take their positions at Tanf, a border crossing between Syria and Iraq (Hammurabi’s Justice News/AP)

    Clearly, Washington’s distaste for Assad lies in his geopolitical proximity to Iran and Russia. This should be no secret, as the U.S. has maintained its view of both countries as American arch-rivals right through the previous administrations.

    As The Washington Post noted just days ago, the U.S. has finally admitted its true intention in Syria:

    “After months of incoherence, the Trump administration has taken a step toward a clear policy on Syria and its civil war. In a speech last week, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson bluntly recognized a truth that both President Trump and President Barack Obama attempted to dodge: that ‘it is crucial to our national defense to maintain a military and diplomatic presence in Syria, to help bring an end to that conflict, and assist the Syrian people . . . to achieve a new political future.’

    To do that, the United States will continue to deploy several thousand personnel in the country and help allied Syrian forces maintain control over enclaves in the southwest, near Israel and Jordan, and the northeast, on the border with Iraq and Turkey.” [emphasis added]

    Yet as long as Russia maintains a military presence in Syria, with the capability of establishing a no-fly zone of its own in much of the country, there is little the U.S. can do regarding Assad without taking on Russia directly. In the meantime, however, it clearly can do its utmost to put a dent in Iran’s expanding influence. By allowing its proxy forces to take over the strategic areas of al-Tanf and parts of Deir ez-Zor, the United States will put a major hole in Iran’s ability to link itself to Iraq, Syria and Lebanon as directly as it otherwise could. This bridge of Iran-allied nations, known as the Shia Crescent, is Saudi Arabia’s worst nightmare.

    In that context, however, the current stand-off will remain a stalemate for some time, as Iranian-backed troops will continue to render America’s military bases all but useless — as they have more or less taken control of the areas that surround the bases, cutting the U.S. military off from using the bases effectively.

    Whether or not the U.S. is prepared to launch a direct strike on these forces and go further than merely cutting them off is unclear, but it seems unlikely at this stage. Given that the U.S. knows Israel is itching to bomb Syria and Lebanon to confront Iran’s growing military presence, it seems more likely that the U.S. will instead rely on Israel to kickstart such a war. At the same time, Washington can continue to rely on its proxy forces to take on the so-called Iranian threat, without fighting Iran directly.

    Either way, America’s schizophrenic approach to the conflict and its desire to prolong the war as long as possible does nothing to ease the suffering of ordinary Syrians. It should be clear that the U.S. has no desire to bring peace to Syria, as it continues to violate international law and aggravate other major players in the region, all of whom have conflicting and contradictory visions for the future of Syria.

    America’s current Syria strategy opens up the door for a war with Turkey and a potential war with Iran and Syria. All the while the U.S. loses its status as the so-called global leader, with Russia emerging unscathed from the conflict as the region’s major power broker.



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    The corporate media would do well to follow the footsteps of The New York Times and call this strategy what it is: illegal — not to mention chaotic and maniacal. There is no happy ending to this story; but the least Washington could do is allow Syria to resolve its problems on its own, without further igniting a regional bloodbath.

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    The towels on the heads of these "Red-Headed Step Children" of the Muslim world are rapped too tight.
    East Jerusalem is still available as the Capital for Palestine.
    But the Towel Heads and PROGS prefer to go Butt Hurt ( which is the way Muslim Men want their "Boys" anyway) . Jus' sayin'.

    IF Israel is ever taken out the Muslim Factions would start to work on eliminating those same Palestinians.
    psst - Nobody really wants the Palestinians. The Jews of Israel is really the best friend they have. There are Palestinians living and working in the Israeli controlled part of Jerusalem.
     
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    Russian fighter jet 'is shot down by jubilant Syrian rebels': Pilot ejects and shoots at rebel mob before being killed in defiant last stand after his plane crashed in a ball of flames
    • Dramatic video shows Sukhoi 25 plummeting out of sky after it was hit in the north-western province of Idlib
    • Another video then shows jubilant rebels celebrating as the wreckage burns on the ground, releasing smoke
    • The pilot reportedly managed to eject and parachute to the ground before being captured by the rebels
    • Rebels later posted images of what they claimed was the his dead body, and his death was then confirmed


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    Turkey's Offensive In Syria: The US Falls Into A Trap Of Its Own Making
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    Authored by Peter Korzun via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

    In the heat of the battle for Afrin, Turkey has warned it will go farther to establish control over vast swathes of land in northern Syria. The offensive is supposed to take Turkish forces as far as Syria’s border with Iraq. On Jan. 28, Ankara called on Washington to withdraw its military from Manbij (100 km from Afrin) before it launches an operation to clear that area of Kurdish militias. It’s important to note that the US had provoked Turkey’s action by announcing its decision to set up a new border security force in the areas under Kurdish control. So Washington has created this situation all by itself – a trap of its own making. Having sown the wind, it reaps the whirlwind.

    A push to the east will potentially force a confrontation between Turkish troops and the US-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). The Kurdish combat units in Afrin missed their opportunity to avoid a worst-case scenario.

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    Some Pro-Kurdish sources say Russia had betrayed the Afrin Kurds by pulling its peacekeepers out before the Turkish attack began. This is a very misleading statement. Let’s look at the facts. Moscow believes all regions west of the Euphrates should be under the control of the regular Syrian army, because these areas belong to Syria – a territorially cohesive country with a legitimate government. Russia had asked the Kurds in Afrin to interact with Damascus and allow its regular army into the area. They refused. Moscow is still ready to act as a mediator to broker talks on autonomy within Syria. So far that initiative has been rejected. The Kurds have preferred the US as their protector. Now they are on their own. They've made their bed, now they must lie in it.".

    The US military has not defended the Kurds in Afrin, claiming it does not regard them as allies on par with the Kurds who are part of the SDF farther east. The US maintains that the Kurds in Afrin did not fight the Islamic State (IS). But even so, those Kurds did protect Afrin and kept their land from being invaded by jihadi militants. Perhaps the US never committed itself to defending the Kurds in Afrin, but it did accept the responsibility of protecting the SDF in Manbij. What will happen now? It is next to impossible to make predictions with any degree of accuracy, but we can contemplate some potential scenarios.

    The Turkish Hürriyet Daily News reported that the US and Turkey are in talks over ways to de-escalate the conflict. NATO Deputy Secretary General Rose Gottemoeller has confirmed that fact, but it’s not clear how that would jibe with the offensive announced by Ankara to capture the land held by the SDF. In any event, it would be too humiliating for Washington to give in to Turkey’s demand. If the US fails to protect its Kurdish allies, it will have no reason to maintain its military presence in Syria. It will have to leave the country, just as Russia and Syria have requested.

    One potential scenario would include inciting a broader uprising of Kurds that would encompass Turkey, Iran, and Iraq. That might reshape the regional map. A development like that is not outside the realm of possibility.

    Another consequence – NATO’s cohesion has already been undermined now that Turkey and the US are supporting opposite sides. If the situation continues to deteriorate, the US will either blink first or it will ask NATO to suspend, or even expel, Turkey from that organization, at least as long as President Erdogan is in power. This would naturally push Ankara in the direction of Moscow and Beijing, if it should move from NATO to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. President Erdogan only recently mentioned how tired he was of the whole EU membership process.

    A political defeat for the US is the most probable outcome. Washington will have to pay for its lack of a clear action plan in Syria and its inability to fully grasp the situation. Obviously Washington is in a predicament. It is up against a very hard choice.

    If the US intends to stay in northern Syria, it certainly needs the Kurds. But if America sides with the Kurds, it will lose Turkey. It might find itself excluded from the entire nation-building process, since it is hostile toward all the major actors: the Syrian government; Russia; Iran; and Turkey. If it abandoned the Kurds, that would be a blow to its credibility in the Middle East, given its recent split with the Palestine Authority over the recognition of Jerusalem.

    If the US manages to reach an agreement with Turkey, that will mean farewell to the prospect of Syrian Kurdistan obtaining a special status that would make it an independent state, whether just in practice or perhaps even officially. The Turkish offensive is likely to make the Kurds more willing to negotiate with Damascus. A future alliance with the Syrian government is an alternative that would push the Kurds into the peace process. It would boost Syria’s chances of remaining an undivided state. Moscow could act as a mediator between Damascus, the Kurds, and Ankara. After all, Moscow is one of few capitals where the Syrian Kurds maintain a representative office.

    All efforts should be exerted within the framework of the Astana peace process, which is being directed by Moscow, Ankara, and Tehran. Washington has always emphasized that its goal in Syria was to fight against IS. But that jihadist group is now so diminished as to be insignificant in Syria. The mission has been accomplished. Why should Washington expend more time and effort, balanced on the brink of armed conflict with Ankara or with any other actor in Syria? After all, if the Astana peace process succeeds, America’s European allies will heave a sigh of relief as the waves of refugees from Syria abate. The best thing the US could do under these circumstances would be to pull out of Syria, focus on diplomacy, and just give peace a chance.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-06/turkeys-offensive-syria-us-falls-trap-its-own-making
     
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    Israel To Deport 38,000 African Migrants With $3,500 Cash & Ticket To Uganda or Rwanda (REACTION)
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    Published on Feb 8, 2018
    The Israeli government intends to tell tens of thousands of African migrants and refugees to leave the country or face arrest.

    Thirty-eight thousand mainly Eritreans and Sudanese who entered Israel illegally will be given a plane ticket and $3,500 until the end of March to leave, AFP reported Wednesday.

    After March, payments will decrease. People who still refuse to leave will be arrested from April, the BBC reported.

    "Every country must maintain its borders, and protecting the borders from illegal infiltration is both a right and a basic duty of a sovereign state,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday.

    Rwanda and Uganda have agreed to accept those who cannot return to conflict-ridden or repressed areas in Sudan and Eritrea if they agree to the plan, according to activists.

    Israel's treatment of African refugees has come under attack from local human rights groups, who say a country founded by Jewish refugees persecuted during World War II should be more understanding of the asylum seekers' plight.

    (ARTICLE: USA TODAY)
     
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    The details go on forever. The only time we've been able to make any kind of positive difference in the ME was by staying at home and sending diplomats to help them negotiate about their mile long list of problems.

    We don't need to be involved militarily over there, it costs beyond enormous sums of our wealth, but our blood and plenty of suffering all around.

    Americans should have long since been marching in the streets. The issue goes back to Nam and before. But today, the way the BS news is, you'd think the costs were not too much and there's a true purpose behind it. The true purpose is a lie from the devil. We should pull everyone back and work on fixing our own problems, before it's too late.
     
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    Trump says he's 'not sure' Israel is interested in making peace with the Palestinians in rare criticism of the country
    • President Trump questioned Israel's interest in making peace in a new interview with Israel Hayom daily
    • 'Right now, I would say the Palestinians are not looking to make peace, they are not looking to make peace,' Trump said first
    • He then added, 'And I am not necessarily sure that Israel is looking to make peace'
    • In the interview, Trump also criticized Israel's West Bank settlements, which his administration has been more reluctant to do than previous ones
    • Relations between the U.S. and Palestinians have been more fraught since Trump announced in December the U.S. embassy in Israel would move to Jerusalem


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