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Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by Mujahideen, Mar 15, 2017.



  1. Mujahideen

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    Ron Paul talks about how friendly Donald trump is with the words #1 terrorist state, Saudi Arabia.

    Why do we continue to help the Saudis? They openly preach extremist views and provide material support for terrorists. Saudi Arabia should be under heavy sanctions, not showed favoritism.

    Donald Trump is continuing the same path as Bush43 and Obama... and that is the same path that Hillary would have taken.
     
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    Get the pipeline built and you can tell the saudies to stick it....
     
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    Lets do some multiple choice with what Trumps real motives are...

    A. Its all an act until his administration and cabinet gains strength to fight the swamp

    B. Once you are elected president you are told secrets the rest of us know nothing about that justifies reasoning for continuing the status quo. See pictures of Trumps first meeting with Obama. His face looks like he was just told green men really did crash in New Mexico.

    C. Hes another puppet president and this was all engineered. See meetings with kissinger, predictions in pop culture that showed Trump being a future president (simpsons, etc.).

    I hate to say this, but it is looking more and more like C as time goes on. Trying to stay optimistic that it is A, but it is awfully tough with the current state of our once great republic.
     
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    ...it is C.....
     
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    Petro dollar... duh?
     
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    Trump resets U.S.-Saudi relations, in Saudi Arabia’s favor.

    President Trump’s new deal with Saudi Arabia is really good — for the Saudis. After publicly bashing the kingdom for years, Trump completely reversed course Tuesday and rolled out the red carpet for the Saudi royals. He gave them a huge publicity boost and a highly sought-after U.S. commitment to improve and elevate bilateral relations. And what did Trump get in return? Not much at all.

    -snip-

    Trump’s Cabinet picks also are longtime friends of the Saudi government and their Persian Gulf allies. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has worked with Gulf governments for decades on military issues, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has deep ties from his time as an executive at ExxonMobil. Both Mattis and Tillerson are reportedly agreed that political reform and human rights concerns should be discarded as conditions for U.S. military aid.

    By becoming the first Arab leaders to be greeted at the White House, the Saudis have pulled off a diplomatic coup, beating out one of Trump’s favorite leaders, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sissi. They also blunted years of criticism by Trump of U.S. military support for Saudi Arabia.

    During the campaign, Trump repeatedly railed against Saudi Arabia, one of the countries he described to his supporters at rallies across the nation as freeloaders who were relying on American protection without paying their fair share.

    At a rally last April in Wisconsin, Trump laid out exactly how he would deal with Saudi Arabia if elected president.

    “They are loaded with money to the gills. The U.S. protects them. We get practically nothing. Do you know why? Because our leaders don’t have business instinct,” Trump said. “Here’s what’s going to happen. We’ll say to Saudi Arabia, ‘Fellas, you’ve got to help us out.’ They’ll say, ‘No.’ We’ll say, ‘Bye bye.’ About two days later, they’ll call and say, ‘Get back here fast, somebody’s going to make a raid.’ We’ll go back. They’ll pay us so much money. And you know what? That’s fine.”

    In a June rally in Las Vegas, Trump asserted that without U.S. defense support, the Saudi regime would have collapsed a long time ago, a claim Trump has been making for years.

    “We defend Saudi Arabia. They don’t pay us nearly what they should be paying. So essentially we are subsidizing all of these countries,” Trump said at the rally. “How stupid are we? A country like Saudi Arabia wouldn’t exist for a week.”

    The White House didn’t respond to requests for comment, but there’s no indication that Trump or any of his aides raised the issue of Saudi reimbursement for American defense in any of this week’s meetings.

    -snip-

    On the security side, the White House touted increasing collaboration on counterterrorism, military cooperation in Yemen and increasing pressure on Iran. But on the thorny issue of Saudi Arabia’s own complicity in spreading radical Islamic ideology, the Trump administration has said exactly nothing, and the Saudis have promised the same.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...s-u-s-saudi-relations-in-saudi-arabias-favor/

    Nothing short of treason and a lack of balls, IMO, from our president.

    If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, Saudi Arabia should pay for 15/19ths of 9/11.
     
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    Weapons deal is good. That's a lot of jobs plus they can use their own missiles instead of ours.
     
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    Beats the living fuck out of me. I've lost track of the good guys and the bad guys
     
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    What else comes with this deal is my question?

    So the Saudis are heavily invested financially into America and the Saudis are the leading member of OPEC who maintains the petrodollar, and we just sold them hundreds of billions of dollars worth of weapons.

    The USA now has even more reason to protect Saudi Arabia and to conduct foreign policy in the interests of the Saudis. The Saudis don't need to use their own missles, they have good old Uncle Sam right there willing to protect its interests with American blood and tax dollars from every American's labor... Ever wonder why we gave weapons to "moderate terrorist militant rebels" who hate us in Syria? It's because Saudi Arabia wants Assad who has defended Christianity, gone.

    Saudi Arabia openly preaches radicalism, they attacked us on 9/11 and they are buying our politicians... I thought Donaldn Trump was going to put an end to this.
     
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    In some conspiracy circles there's people that think the House of Saud are actually descendants of the tribe.

    Saudi Arabia has hundreds of billions invested in Wall Street paper. 401k's could go "POOF" real quick.


    Ever notice how there's 30 year old vids of people asking Obama if he'd ever be president and there's 30 year old vids of people asking Trump if he'd ever run for president. Very strange indeed.

    If Liebermann gets the FBI gig I'm afraid it's safe to say we all got played and the phony left vs right squabble is just a show to keep the masses divided and looking down rabbit holes while the 22nd century groundwork gets poured by the globalists.

    C
     
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    That weapons deal will put a dent in the trade deficit and employ mucho Americans

    They're both evil but I think the Shia are worse. Obama took care of the Shia during his term. Sell to both sides and let them wipe each other out.
     
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    Isis, Hamas, Muslim brotherhood, Al Qaeda and radical Whabbist Saudi Arabia are Sunni.

    Hezballah, most of Iraq that's not alqaeda, Syria who has been tolerant of other religions, and Iran whose democracy was ended with the help of the USA are Shia.

    How is Shia worse?
     
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    ....simple, a wealthy Sunni Arab nation that detests the Iranian Shia. Iran has repeatedly stated they will blow up Mecca, and destroy Saudi. That is unlikely to happen if/ when the Sauds are properly armed. It gets better, Egypt, Jordan and the Sauds have signed agreements recognizing Israel's right to exist. If/when the three Sunni powerhouses decide to expel Iran from Lebanon, Syria and Iraq, they just may be able to do it if properly organized and equipped....(Israel will also play a tiny part, wink, wink,) we are not giving them weapons, but selling them...and they can also will be of great assistance in destroying ISIS. One day at a time...this whole Islamic terrorism thingy has been brewing since 660 AD, could be the great Sunni Shia showdown occurs sooner than later.
    Go Trump.
     
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    Sure Saudi could be of great assistance in destroying Isis if they stopped funding them.

    But the elephant in the room here is that of all the countries, Saudi Arabia is by far the biggest exporter of radicalism. Saudi Arabia even attacked us on 9/11.

    Why are we even doing business with them? Wasn't Donald Trump supposed to tell them to fuck off? He is from the same city that saudi flew passenger airliners full of American civilians into buildings.
     
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    You have answered many of your own questions. Islam is the problem, Sunni, Shia, and has been since 660 AD.
     
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    Iran has moved to the number one spot of terror sponsorship and export. Iranian guards are deployed in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. Saudi troops remain in Saudi.
     
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    They are in Iraq and Syria fighting Isis.

    I don't know or care about what's going on in Yemen, but somehow the Saudis have the USA involved over there too.

    You are a tool for saying another nation is sponsoring terrorism more than Saudi Arabia.

    Edit:

    That was from last week

    While Saudi Arabia is often a secondary source of funds and support for terror movements who can find more motivated and ideologically invested benefactors (e.g. Qatar), Saudi Arabia arguably remains the most prolific sponsor of international Islamist terrorism, allegedly supporting groups as disparate as the Afghanistan Taliban, Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and the Al-Nusra Front.[96]

    Saudi Arabia is said to be the world's largest source of funds and promoter of Salafist jihadism,[97] which forms the ideological basis of terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda, Taliban, ISIS and others. Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide, according to Hillary Clinton.[98] According to a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of state, "Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups."[99]
     
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    These Saudi royals have to be the most mongrel looking gene fuck up the planet. I dare any shemitah believing asshole to look at them and call them "kings".
     
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    They are also forming a coalition to stop the radicalism.
     
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    You probably don't know much about Saudi Arabia if you hold any water to this.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

    Saudi is tied to the hip of radical Islam and has been for a very long time.

    If the Saudis wish to remain in power, they have to satisfy the salafists. Keep in mind, Saudi Arabia is home to Mecca and the kingdom does not dictate the religion, it's the opposite.
     
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    When will you realize these people have no principles, nor moral courage and only crave power?

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    Funny coincidence that Trump's first overseas trip begins with a country that is filthy stinking rich where he recently registered 8 different companies?

    Kinda like when Ivanka got her Chinese trademarks approved the day after dining with the Chinese president.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...d-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia
     
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    My primary concern is the Norks helping Iran establish Nuclear capability. The mullahs believe that major war is needed to trigger the appearance of the twelfth and final imam

    Following that I'm concerned about Pakistani nukes on the open market

    Shut down proliferation now, or glow at the consequences in the near to mid term
     
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    Trump curtsies for the King: Donald is mocked for crouching 'like a sparkly princess' in front of Saudi royal after being given the country's highest civilian honor despite slamming Obama for bowing to him in 2009
    • Trump gave a slight curtsy for King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud on Saturday
    • He was savaged immediately on Twitter for appearing to bow down to the Saudi royal
    • It was made worse by his condemnation of Barack Obama for bowing to King Abdullah in 2009
    • The president is in Riyadh undertaking his first foreign tour since taking office
    • Trump's fans said he was merely crouching down to allow the shorter, older King to place the medal around his neck without having to strain himself


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4526280/Trump-curtsies-King-Salman.html#ixzz4hjdZdugP
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    In this instance, probably B). He may not have understood that Saudi could plunge the US into a third world country in a day by just flushing the petrodollar. Now that he's been brought up to speed, he is toeing the line like every president has had to since Reagan.
     
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    On Saudi Arabia, Trump Is Out of Touch With Americans
    5/21/2017




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    By Chris Rossini

    When non-president Donald Trump declared Saudi Arabia "the world's biggest funder of terrorism," and responsible for 9/11, one must presume that he understood the thoughts and opinions of the American people.

    Americans (even the mainstream media) have sympathy for the people of Saudi Arabia, specifically the persecuted women, gays, and Christians. The American people also sympathize with the suffering people of Yemen, who are being slaughtered en masse by the Saudis.

    Yet the U.S. government itself is practically bragging about arming the Saudis even further to the tune of $350 billion!

    The U.S. government and President Trump are painfully out of touch, and are hardly acting as representatives of the American people.

    This, unfortunately, is nothing new.

    http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/saudi-arabia-trump-is-out-of-touch-with-americans
     
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    I saw him lean so the king could reach his neck to give him the medal

    Obama bowed from the waste to 90 degrees like he was waiting for Reggie Love to enter
     
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    Correct.

    What else was trump supposed to do there?

    Obama practically kissed the kings feet. Utterly embarrassing for our nation.

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    And so is that.
     
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    Of course he's a puppet. American presidents have ZERO power and are told what to do and say.

    If Trump or anyone else declared the US was reverting back to a good based dollar or that all US troops worldwide were being pulled out to return home, how long until they'd be assassinated by some patsy kook?
     
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    People see the world through their own experiences.

    Maslow theory explains the hierarchy if you subscribe to his way of thinking

    I believe Trump is in self actualization tier where he us trying to be all he can be and give back before the ride is over

    The left assumes everyone acts with the same motives as they do. Many on the left are doomed to never develop past the basic security needs

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    PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump is 6'2".
    Midget King of Saudi Arabia is 5' 10" (in heels).
    Midget King has also shrunk at least 2" with the hunchback.

    Saudi Arabia must be wondering where they stand with TRUMP and America.
    Melania DOES NOT have to wear the hijab as HITLARY and "MIKE" had to on their visits.

    "...Saudi Arabia’s Foreign Minister Adel bin Ahmed Al-Jubeir told her that she can skip the hijab! He said that Saudi Arabia welcomes “any style in clothing”."... ( LIE - IMO)

    http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/whoa-saudi-arabia-just-told-first-lady-milania-trump-will-stun/
     
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    Maslow's hierarchy is brilliant, but a bit outdated.


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    I just noticed that Midget King is also on a riser:
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    Checkout the shoulder heights. M.K. shoulders come to President Trumps chest.
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    M.K. being held up by "The FAM" ( third from the left):
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    If M.K. is 5'10" I'll smoke a camel turd cigarette. He is lucky to be 5'8".
     
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    Having worked and trained Saudis ( I was employed by an Italian company) in Taif for three years, way back when, I can say radical Islam did not infect the Kingdom until the ME Arab states started falling apart( Sunni Shia divide) and Islamic calls to annihilate Israel and the US became the Muslim cry. To this day, their boots have remained on Saudi soil, and every Saudi national I knew dreamed of visiting the US, and most all of the wealthy sent their kids to US universities, and all listened to Tina Turner. Viewing the huge welcome they gave Trump, their war on Iran and the Iranian threat now on their border, they WILL play ball. Go Trump...everything in its time....PS, they never could learn how to fight, their money did all the fighting for them- those days are gone.
     
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