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Trump weighs mobilizing Nat Guard for immigration roundups

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  1. Scorpio

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    Trump weighs mobilizing Nat Guard for immigration roundups
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    The Trump administration is considering a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border, according to a draft memo obtained by The Associated Press.

    The 11-page document calls for the unprecedented militarization of immigration enforcement as far north as Portland, Oregon, and as far east as New Orleans, Louisiana.

    Four states that border on Mexico are included in the proposal — California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — but it also encompasses seven states contiguous to those four — Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana.

    Governors in the 11 states would have a choice whether to have their guard troops participate, according to the memo, written by U.S. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general.

    While National Guard personnel have been used to assist with immigration-related missions on the U.S.-Mexico border before, they have never been used as broadly or as far north.

    The memo is addressed to the then-acting heads of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and U.S. Customs and Border Protection. It would serve as guidance to implement the wide-ranging executive order on immigration and border security that President Donald Trump signed Jan. 25. Such memos are routinely issued to supplement executive orders.

    Also dated Jan. 25, the draft memo says participating troops would be authorized "to perform the functions of an immigration officer in relation to the investigation, apprehension and detention of aliens in the United States." It describes how the troops would be activated under a revived state-federal partnership program, and states that personnel would be authorized to conduct searches and identify and arrest any unauthorized immigrants.

    Requests to the White House and the Department of Homeland Security for comment and a status report on the proposal were not answered.

    The draft document has circulated among DHS staff over the last two weeks. As recently as Friday, staffers in several different offices reported discussions were underway.

    If implemented, the impact could be significant. Nearly one-half of the 11.1 million people residing in the U.S. without authorization live in the 11 states, according to Pew Research Center estimates based on 2014 Census data.

    Use of National Guard troops would greatly increase the number of immigrants targeted in one of Trump's executive orders last month, which expanded the definition of who could be considered a criminal and therefore a potential target for deportation. That order also allows immigration agents to prioritize removing anyone who has "committed acts that constitute a chargeable criminal offense."

    Under current rules, even if the proposal is implemented, there would not be immediate mass deportations. Those with existing deportation orders could be sent back to their countries of origin without additional court proceedings. But deportation orders generally would be needed for most other unauthorized immigrants.

    The troops would not be nationalized, remaining under state control.

    Spokespeople for the governors of Arizona, Utah, Nevada, California, Colorado, Oklahoma, Oregon and New Mexico said they were unaware of the proposal, and either declined to comment or said it was premature to discuss whether they would participate. The other three states did not immediately respond to the AP.

    The proposal would extend the federal-local partnership program that President Barack Obama's administration began scaling back in 2012 to address complaints that it promoted racial profiling.

    The 287(g) program, which Trump included in his immigration executive order, gives local police, sheriff's deputies and state troopers the authority to assist in the detection of immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally as a regular part of their law enforcement duties on the streets and in jails.

    The draft memo also mentions other items included in Trump's executive order, including the hiring of an additional 5,000 border agents, which needs financing from Congress, and his campaign promise to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico.

    The signed order contained no mention of the possible use of state National Guard troops.

    According to the draft memo, the militarization effort would be proactive, specifically empowering Guard troops to solely carry out immigration enforcement, not as an add-on the way local law enforcement is used in the program.

    Allowing Guard troops to operate inside non-border states also would go far beyond past deployments.

    In addition to responding to natural or man-made disasters or for military protection of the population or critical infrastructure, state Guard forces have been used to assist with immigration-related tasks on the U.S.-Mexico border, including the construction of fences.

    In the mid-2000s, President George W. Bush twice deployed Guard troops on the border to focus on non-law enforcement duties to help augment the Border Patrol as it bolstered its ranks. And in 2010, then-Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer announced a border security plan that included Guard reconnaissance, aerial patrolling and military exercises.

    In July 2014, then-Texas Gov. Rick Perry ordered 1,000 National Guard troops to the border when the surge of migrant children fleeing violence in Central America overwhelmed U.S. officials responsible for their care. The Guard troops' stated role on the border at the time was to provide extra sets of eyes but not make arrests.

    Bush initiated the federal 287(g) program — named for a section of a 1996 immigration law — to allow specially trained local law enforcement officials to participate in immigration enforcement on the streets and check whether people held in local jails were in the country illegally. ICE trained and certified roughly 1,600 officers to carry out those checks from 2006 to 2015.

    The memo describes the program as a "highly successful force multiplier" that identified more than 402,000 "removable aliens."

    But federal watchdogs were critical of how DHS ran the program, saying it was poorly supervised and provided insufficient training to officers, including on civil rights law. Obama phased out all the arrest power agreements in 2013 to instead focus on deporting recent border crossers and immigrants in the country illegally who posed a safety or national security threat.

    Trump's immigration strategy emerges as detentions at the nation's southern border are down significantly from levels seen in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Last year, the arrest tally was the fifth-lowest since 1972. Deportations of people living in the U.S. illegally also increased under the Obama administration, though Republicans criticized Obama for setting prosecution guidelines that spared some groups from the threat of deportation, including those brought to the U.S. illegally as children.

    Last week, ICE officers arrested more than 680 people around the country in what Kelly said were routine, targeted operations; advocates called the actions stepped-up enforcement under Trump.

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    The AP National Investigative Team can be reached at investigate@ap.org

    Follow Garance Burke on Twitter at @garanceburke

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...or-immigration-roundups/ar-AAn3qA8?li=BBnb7Kz
     
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    Screw the politicians & their PC B.S. But don't underestimate the abilities of a successful businessman.
    Trump gets better every day.
    Did you watch him rip the media yesterday ?? I think they will soften soon.
     
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    Spicer and DHS have now announced that this is false.

    My theory is this was disinformation by the Trump administration in hopes of figuring out who their mole is. Stay tuned, this is going to get interesting!
     
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    Yep. I suspected as much since the states mentioned in the article included Oregon and California.

    In no universe would the governors of those states agree to deploying the National Guard for rounding up anyone for this president.
     
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    They won't stop until they're forced to stop.

    What's that old saying ? "You want to do this the easy way, OR the hard way?" But it shall happen !!
     
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    There is little point in doing this until the wall is built.
     
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    as I stated before,

    not rounding them up, put a wall of military on the border, until and after the wall is built

    then worry about all the rest,
     
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    Awww deen, think about it. Putting your finger in the leaking dike, until it is fixed, is better than nothing !

    Dr. Boli's Celebrated Magazine.
    EDITED BY H. ALBERTUS BOLI, LL.D.
    THE LITTLE DUTCH BOY WHO SAVED HOLLAND.
    From Dr. Boli’s Fables for Children Who Are Too Old to Believe in Fables.



    ONCE THERE WAS a little Dutch boy who discovered a leak in the dike.

    What should he do? From a single leak, a terrible breach might grow. The whole country could be flooded, and everyone he knew would drown.

    So he did the only thing he could think of. He stuck his finger in the dike, and the leak stopped.

    Of course, now he was stuck. He couldn’t move, because as soon as he did, the leak would start again.

    So he stood there for quite some time. He was rather tired, and his finger felt a bit numb from the effort of holding back the North Sea, but he knew he was doing his duty.

    At last the Burgomaster happened to pass by.

    “Young man,” he said with a certain amount of sternness, “why are you poking your finger in the dike?”

    “I am stopping a leak,” the boy explained. “I saw the dike leaking, so I stuck my finger in the hole.”

    “Heroic boy!” the Burgomaster exclaimed. “You shall be rewarded! Meanwhile, keep your finger there while I call the Burghers together.”

    So the Burgomaster called a meeting of the Burghers, and they agreed that the boy had heroically saved Holland.

    “And now,” the Burgomaster asked, “what shall we do about the leak?”

    “It seems to me,” one of the Burghers replied, “that private enterprise has already found an admirable solution to the problem. The boy has stuck his finger in the dike, and the leak has stopped. You might describe it as voluntary self-regulation. There is no need for expensive government action.”

    So the Burghers voted to award the boy a Certificate of Good Citizenship, which the Burgomaster was delighted to be able to present to him the next day.

    “Thank you,” the boy said politely, “but I still have my finger in this dike.”

    “And we appreciate that,” the Burgomaster replied. “I may confidently speak for the whole Council of Burghers in saying that your heroic action is universally admired.”

    So the boy stood there with his finger in the dike for a few more days.

    It was not long, however, before another leak sprang in the dike, a little bit farther down the way.

    “What shall we do?” the Burgomaster asked the Burghers. “There is another leak.”

    “As private enterprise has so admirably solved the previous problem,” one of the Burghers responded, “the solution to this new leak is obvious. We need only persuade another heroic boy to stick his finger in it.”

    So they went into the local school and found another boy who, after much persuasion, was willing to stick his finger in the dike.

    It was, however, only a few days later that two more leaks appeared. This time it was much harder to persuade boys to stick their fingers in the holes; and when, a week later, half a dozen more leaks appeared, no volunteers were to be found.

    “What shall we do?” the Burgomaster asked the Council. “Private enterprise seems no longer to be adequate. We may have to repair the dike itself this time.”

    “Nonsense,” said one of the Burghers. “The solution that worked before will work again. We must simply force private enterprise into action.”

    So the Council visited the school and dragged a number of young boys by the ears to the dike, where they were forced to plug the leaks with their fingers.

    But the dike, which was old and poorly maintained, continued to spring new leaks here and there, so that it was all the Burghers could do to find more boys to plug up the leaks with their fingers. At last the Burghers compelled every little boy in the Low Countries to stick his finger in a hole. All economic activity came to a halt, as it is well known that young boys are the leading consumers of skates and cheese, on which the economy of Holland depended at that time.

    “What shall we do?” the Burgomaster asked the Council. “We have run out of heroic little boys. At this rate, we may have to plug the leaks with our own fingers.”

    “That would be moderately inconvenient,” one of the Burghers remarked.

    So the Council voted to remove the North Sea by digging a new seabed somewhere in Germany; and they voted themselves a number of solid gold spades, befitting their dignity, for the purpose. And if you go to suburban Wilhelmshaven right now, and look into the field to your right as you drive westward on the Friedenstrasse, you will see a number of Dutch burghers very busy with their spades, trying to dig a new bed for the North Sea. It is lucky for them that the people of Wilhelmshaven have mistaken the burghers for a party of archaeologists looking for ancient Saxon remains, which has allowed them to continue the work uninterrupted.

     
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    TAEZZAR, it's a waste of resources that you and I are going to pay for. It will do little other than make people think that he is doing something.

    There is little point to kicking people out while your doors are wide open. The first step has to be to secure the border; then we move on from there.

    There are people who have been kicked out of America multiple times because they can literally just walk right back. What's the point?
     
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    FIXED.

    The wall may help a bit, but until their reason to be here is removed they will still find a way to get in.
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Deen, Here is the waste of resources - we cannot afford to continue this !!!

    The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013)
    The full report is available in pdf format.

    Executive Summary
    This report estimates the annual costs of illegal immigration at the federal, state and local level to be about $113 billion; nearly $29 billion at the federal level and $84 billion at the state and local level. The study also estimates tax collections from illegal alien workers, both those in the above-ground economy and those in the underground economy. Those receipts do not come close to the level of expenditures and, in any case, are misleading as an offset because over time unemployed and underemployed U.S. workers would replace illegal alien workers.

    Key Findings

    • Illegal immigration costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level. The bulk of the costs — some $84 billion — are absorbed by state and local governments.
    • The annual outlay that illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers is an average amount per native-headed household of $1,117. The fiscal impact per household varies considerably because the greatest share of the burden falls on state and local taxpayers whose burden depends on the size of the illegal alien population in that locality
    • Education for the children of illegal aliens constitutes the single largest cost to taxpayers, at an annual price tag of nearly $52 billion. Nearly all of those costs are absorbed by state and local governments.
    • At the federal level, about one-third of outlays are matched by tax collections from illegal aliens. At the state and local level, an average of less than 5 percent of the public costs associated with illegal immigration is recouped through taxes collected from illegal aliens.
    • Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax returns. Many are also claiming tax credits resulting in payments from the U.S. Treasury.
    With many state budgets in deficit, policymakers have an obligation to look for ways to reduce the fiscal burden of illegal migration. California, facing a budget deficit of $14.4 billion in 2010-2011, is hit with an estimated $21.8 billion in annual expenditures on illegal aliens. New York’s $6.8 billion deficit is smaller than its $9.5 billion in yearly illegal alien costs.

    Continue here: http://www.fairus.org/publications/...llegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers
     
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    I put my finger in a dike and she slapped me.
     
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    Outrage. It looks to me that he is keeping the Left in a constant state of outrage in order to burn off their energy over stupid and trivial stuff.
     
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    My anonymous source says it was leaked to Schumer, who then leaked it to AP, then Schumer went on TV, and had a crying statement.

    BTW: Air Force One just flew about 400 feet over head, as we are on the approach when the wind is blowing from the south.

    I waved, but he didn't wave back, I need a puppy.
     
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    RUMBLINGS: ‘National Guard Fake Memo’ Was Ploy To Smoke Out The Leaker

    Cristina Laila Feb 17th, 2017 3:31 pm 103 Comments

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    The Associated Press released a story on Friday claiming the Trump administration considered a proposal to round up illegal immigrants using as many as 100,000 National Guard troops. Now sources are saying perhaps several different versions of this memo were drafted up to smoke out the leaker.

    AP reported:

    The Trump administration considered a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border, according to a draft memo obtained by The Associated Press.

    The 11-page document calls for the unprecedented militarization of immigration enforcement as far north as Portland, Oregon, and as far east as New Orleans, Louisiana. The document can be accessed at

    Four states that border on Mexico were included in the proposal — California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — but it also encompasses seven states contiguous to those four — Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana.

    White House Press Secretary, Sean Spicer responded to this report:

    White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Friday the document was “not a White House document.”

    “There is no effort to do what is potentially suggested,” he said. Spicer called the AP report “100 percent not true,” adding that there was “no effort at all to utilize the National Guard to round up unauthorized immigrants.”

    Screenshot of part of the first page of the memo (from AP Twitter account):

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    The full memo can be accessed here.

    Now sources are saying that the National Guard memo perhaps has several different versions so Donald Trump can smoke out the leaker… Stay tuned, story developing.

    Via Mike Cernovich:

    Multiple sources within the WH have told me that the “memo” on the 100K National Guard soldiers was fake news designed to smoke out leaker.

    — Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich) February 17, 2017



    Same group who leaked the National Guard “memo” also created the fake news story about Flynn. @realDonaldTrump is FURIOUS. #BringBackFlynn https://t.co/JYsbs49R55

    — Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich) February 17, 2017



    Give 10 different people 10 different copies of the “same” memo. Include 1 different words or typos in each. Oldest trick in the book.

    — Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich) February 17, 2017
     
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    Called that one in my first post.


    I cant take all the credit though I just re-watched The Departed last night and this is one of the same tactics they used to try and discover their rat lol.
     
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    Seeing this story is all over every news site I would say it worked.

    .
     
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    You know what is coming next, the cops break down the door on the wrong house and raid and take whatever loot they can find.
    How many times the cops have raided the wrong house for drug busts. It will be no different here.
     
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    Trump sure talks a good program.......yawn...

    Wake me up when the Mexicans are back in Mexico.
     
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