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  1. searcher

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    Mexican congressman mocks Trump's wall by proudly sitting atop of 30ft border fence as he shows how 'simple it would be to jump into the U.S.'
    • Mexican congressman Braulio Guerra posted pictures to Twitter of him casually sitting on a 30-foot fence between Tijuana and Mexico
    • He said of the fence 'one climbs in an instant' but it wasn't clear how long it took him to climb it as the video doesn't show this
    • He said two other people just happened to be climbing the wall when he did


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    Cute stunt but I doubt the Trump wall (not fence) will have handholds and convenient spacing to ensure a good grip

    I wouldn't be surprised if Trump hasn't already filed this guys name so he can invite him back to test the real thing
     
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    California Lawmakers Tells Companies If They Build The Trump Wall They Lose Pension Investment
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    They are completely insane! First, they are putting themselves squarely on the side of the illegals.

    Secondly, they are going to screw their pension systems (even worse than today). Here is the logic. They are threatening to sell (or not invest) in companies that they consider good performers. This would have no effect on the poor performers, because they were not being "on the list" to buy or hold. So if they sell good performers, what will they buy? They will have to choose from their "second choice" list, which will mean even less revenue to support their pension system. I assume they mean CALPERS, but it would work the same for any pension system.

    Dumbasses.
     
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    Trump's Border Wall Plan Faces 3 Key Hurdles

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    by Tyler Durden
    Mar 27, 2017 5:00 AM

    President Donald Trump has now laid out exactly what he wants in the "big, beautiful wall" that he's promised to build on the U.S.-Mexico border. But, as AP's Alicia Caldwell reports, his effort to build a huge hurdle to those entering the U.S. illegally faces impediments of its own.

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    It's still not clear how Trump will pay for the wall that, as described in contracting notices, would be 30 feet (9 meters) high and easy on the eye for those looking at it from the north. The Trump administration will also have to contend with unfavorable geography and many legal battles.

    A look at some of those obstacles:

    MONEY
    Trump promised that Mexico would pay for his wall, a demand Mexico has repeatedly rejected. Trump's first budget proposal to Congress, a preliminary draft that was light on details, asked lawmakers for a $2.6 billion down payment for the wall. An internal report prepared for Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly estimated that a wall along the entire border would cost about $21 billion. Congressional Republicans have estimated a more moderate price tag of $12 billion to $15 billion. Trump himself has suggested a cost of about $12 billion.

    It's unclear how much money Congress will approve. Lawmakers have been balking at his plans to sharply cut other federal spending to pay for the wall and other boosts to border security, while increasing military spending. White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters this past week that the administration was still looking at how the wall would be funded, adding that it hasn't given up on Mexico footing the bill.

    GEOGRAPHY
    Roughly half of the 2,000-mile (3,200-kilometer) U.S.-Mexico border is in Texas and marked by the winding and twisting Rio Grande. A 1970 treaty with Mexico requires that anything built near that river not obstruct its flow. The same treaty applies to a stretch of border in Arizona, where the Colorado River marks the international boundary.

    Some fencing that is already in place along the frontier is built well off the river, in some places nearly a mile (about a kilometer) away from the border.

    Trump will have to navigate not only the treaty maintained by the International Boundary and Water Commission but also various environmental regulations that protect some stretches of border and restrict what kind of structures can be built and where. The contracting notices of March 17 say the Trump administration wants the wall dug at least 6 feet (almost 2 meters) into the ground. Along parts of the border in California, environmentally sensitive sand dunes required that a "floating fence" was built to allow the natural movement of the sand.

    LEGAL CHALLENGES
    Nearly all of the land along the Texas border is privately held - much of it by people whose families have been in the region for generations - and buying their land won't be easy, as Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama discovered. Lawyers for both administrations fought in court with private landowners. Obama's efforts to buy privately held land in the Rio Grande Valley have carried over into Trump's term.

    The Trump administration appears to be preparing for the legal fight and included a request for more lawyers to handle such cases in its budget proposal. Spicer said this past week the administration would "take the steps necessary" to fulfill Trump's promise to secure the southern border.

    ource: AP

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    One of the reasons Trump was for RyanCare was that it would have freed up $500 billion to spend on tax cuts, and his Wall. Now that that didn't happen he's kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place, even his tax plans will have to be revamped.

    Rumors have it that he is going to start courting Dem's to go around the "TeaParty/Freedom Caucus". Personally I'm still in the TeaParty camp and regret that Trump is bashing them, he will definitely be tanked if he get's cozy with the Dem's, plus he will loose many of the quiet supporters he had in Nov.

    No wall in the near future I'm afraid.
     
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    That's just as well IMHO, because most illegal aliens didn't cross the border illegally to get here. Most have simply over stayed their welcome.

    Also, the realities of building a 1200 mile long 36' wall along a border that is a river on land that is mostly all privately held, is a huge under taking.
    The land owners alone would keep him tied up in Court for the rest of his term, because the people there mostly don't want a wall.
    ...and that's not even counting the logistics of building a wall like that while maintaining drainages into the river. Those cannot be blocked.

    It would probably be cheaper to just offer some money to go back.
     
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    I understood the wall cost was 2-3 billion. Not pocket change but in the grand scheme it's only 1/3 of 1 days spending

    500 billion is 1/6 of a year's spending
     
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    Trump wants to pay for border wall with $18 BILLION in cuts from domestic programs – including medical research grants
    • President Donald Trump is proposing immediate budget cuts of $18 billion from domestic programs in order to fund his proposed border wall
    • National Institutes of Health medical research will be hit hard, along with infrastructure and community grants
    • Like Trump's proposed 2018 budget, which was panned by both Democrats and Republicans, the proposals have little chance of being enacted
    • President is still trying to front the cost of his border wall while insisting that Mexico will end up funding it on the back end


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    Worth a listen. Hope the wall is still on the drawing board.

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    Trump's border wall hits the design phase, as president says he's reviewed 10 versions but wants to 'see more'
    • President Donald Trump spoke about the border wall he wants to build on the U.S.-Mexico border
    • He told Fox Business he has reviewed 10 different designs
    • He cited a drop in border apprehensions, saying 'people aren't even trying to get through because they know they can't'
    • Tuesday was the deadline for design submissions, although the contracts get awarded in June
    • Trump said during the campaign he would build a 'big, beautiful wall'


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    From the link !

    “We’ve got over a hundred migratory birds that will be impacted from this wall,” Jeff Corwin, a wildlife biologist, told MSNBC’s Craig Melvin.

    I would call him a fucking moron, but I don't want to insult the morons !
    Or, is he talking about "jail birds" ??? LOLOLOL
     
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    I don't think ostriches, emus, and penguins are migratory. "You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
     
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    Trump 'will NOT ask for money to build the wall in crucial spending bill': President may avoid a government shutdown by delaying his bid to get funds for the border project
    • Trump stepped back from demanding a down payment for his border wall in must-pass spending legislation
    • The apparent turnaround may remove a major obstacle to a bipartisan deal just days ahead of a government shutdown deadline
    • Sources say Trump indicated he would be willing to revist the border wall downpayment issue in September
    • Trump still insists Mexico will pay for in the end, though Democrats and even most Republicans doubt that will ever come to pass


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    Then it shall be !
     
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    Ted Cruz proposes an 'El Chapo Act' to pay for Trump's wall by seizing the notorious drug lord's $14BILLION fortune
    • The conservative Texas Republican put forward his 'EL CHAPO' bill on Tuesday
    • It calls on the government to seek $14billion in drug profits from the kingpin
    • The drug money would then be used to build the wall and 'keep Americans safe'
    • Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman is awaiting trial in New York on drug ring charges


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    Damn, ol' lieing Ted might have the plan !!!
     
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    You mean it hasn't been seized yet?

    Meanwhile in America, people get pulled over every day and end up with their cash seized with little to no proof of anything being wrong.
    ...and here we got el chapo sittin' in jail for how many years now, for selling drugs and they're just now thinking of seizing his fortunes made from that selling?
    WTF is wrong with these people? <--- don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question. We all know the answer.
     
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    Spot the difference! Our Mexican wall is 'see through' says the White House as it unveils picture of what used to be called a FENCE to show plan for Trump's 'beautiful' wall
    • Donald Trump had claimed there would be a 'big beautiful wall' across the entire Mexican border - in concrete
    • But his budget director on Tuesday unveiled what he called a 'see through' wall - and he gestured at pictures show what it will look like
    • The picture showed what was then called a fence being installed in January
    • The budget director, Mick Mulvaney, said this was the barrier the Department of Homeland Security wanted
    • White House could not say where along the border the upgrades would take place or how many miles of fencing they could get out of the money


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    Never did he ever say "in concrete". that's what's wrong today, too many ears can't hear.
     
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    I hope you guys got to see Mulvany today.

    Was doing a presser to undo the MSM lies about the wall and other items

    Funny shit, after the fifth time explaining there was money in the CR to work on the wall, someone asks but but but but when will you start on the wall then

    Mulvany puts the photo on screen and says well this section here was being built today

    Start around 29 minutes for a few minutes

     
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    Build that transparent solar-powered wall! Trump says Mexican border has to be see-through because of 60lb sacks of drugs being thrown over it by Mexicans could hit fellow Americans on the head
    • President Donald Trump elaborated on the latest design of a border wall during a flight to Paris with reporters
    • He said the wall might be just 700 to 900 miles long due to natural barriers
    • He noted the need for 'transparency' to be able view the other side of the wall
    • He said it could be 'steel with openings'
    • 'As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don't see them – they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff?'


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    Clearly he is trying to justify some bull shit here.
     
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    Throw me in the briar patch Mr Trump

    I can't imagine anything on earth being worse than someone throwing a 60 pound duffle of coke at me.

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    Trump,has the power and needs to use it.


    Dear swamp, they'll be no more continuing resolutions and I'll prioritize spending, which means no welfare, snap, atfwdc, or,government salaries amongst other pet projects the American people don't need

    When we do reach agreement they'll be no back pay - like every other time this game has been played (essentially free vacations for all)

    Repeal and replace, fund the wall and get ready for tax reform or prepare for hard ball you bunch of RINO turncoat swamp critters

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    LEAKED: Trump BEGGED Mexican President To Stop Talking About The Wall
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    "President Trump made building a wall along the southern U.S. border and forcing Mexico to pay for it core pledges of his campaign.

    But in his first White House call with Mexico’s president, Trump described his vow to charge Mexico as a growing political problem, pressuring the Mexican leader to stop saying publicly that his government would never pay.

    “You cannot say that to the press,” Trump said repeatedly, according to a transcript of the Jan. 27 call obtained by The Washington Post. Trump made clear that he realized the funding would have to come from other sources but threatened to cut off contact if Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto continued to make defiant statements.

    The funding “will work out in the formula somehow,” Trump said, adding later that “it will come out in the wash, and that is okay.” But “if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that.””*

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    Transcripts released revealing Trump intended American taxpayers to front bill for Mexican wall
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    Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto was firm about Mexico not paying for the wall that Trump ran his campaign on.
     
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