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  1. searcher

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    Mexican congressman mocks Trump's wall by proudly sitting atop of 30ft border fence as he shows how 'simple it would be to jump into the U.S.'
    • Mexican congressman Braulio Guerra posted pictures to Twitter of him casually sitting on a 30-foot fence between Tijuana and Mexico
    • He said of the fence 'one climbs in an instant' but it wasn't clear how long it took him to climb it as the video doesn't show this
    • He said two other people just happened to be climbing the wall when he did


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    Cute stunt but I doubt the Trump wall (not fence) will have handholds and convenient spacing to ensure a good grip

    I wouldn't be surprised if Trump hasn't already filed this guys name so he can invite him back to test the real thing
     
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    California Lawmakers Tells Companies If They Build The Trump Wall They Lose Pension Investment
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    They are completely insane! First, they are putting themselves squarely on the side of the illegals.

    Secondly, they are going to screw their pension systems (even worse than today). Here is the logic. They are threatening to sell (or not invest) in companies that they consider good performers. This would have no effect on the poor performers, because they were not being "on the list" to buy or hold. So if they sell good performers, what will they buy? They will have to choose from their "second choice" list, which will mean even less revenue to support their pension system. I assume they mean CALPERS, but it would work the same for any pension system.

    Dumbasses.
     
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    Trump's Border Wall Plan Faces 3 Key Hurdles

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    by Tyler Durden
    Mar 27, 2017 5:00 AM

    President Donald Trump has now laid out exactly what he wants in the "big, beautiful wall" that he's promised to build on the U.S.-Mexico border. But, as AP's Alicia Caldwell reports, his effort to build a huge hurdle to those entering the U.S. illegally faces impediments of its own.

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    It's still not clear how Trump will pay for the wall that, as described in contracting notices, would be 30 feet (9 meters) high and easy on the eye for those looking at it from the north. The Trump administration will also have to contend with unfavorable geography and many legal battles.

    A look at some of those obstacles:

    MONEY
    Trump promised that Mexico would pay for his wall, a demand Mexico has repeatedly rejected. Trump's first budget proposal to Congress, a preliminary draft that was light on details, asked lawmakers for a $2.6 billion down payment for the wall. An internal report prepared for Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly estimated that a wall along the entire border would cost about $21 billion. Congressional Republicans have estimated a more moderate price tag of $12 billion to $15 billion. Trump himself has suggested a cost of about $12 billion.

    It's unclear how much money Congress will approve. Lawmakers have been balking at his plans to sharply cut other federal spending to pay for the wall and other boosts to border security, while increasing military spending. White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters this past week that the administration was still looking at how the wall would be funded, adding that it hasn't given up on Mexico footing the bill.

    GEOGRAPHY
    Roughly half of the 2,000-mile (3,200-kilometer) U.S.-Mexico border is in Texas and marked by the winding and twisting Rio Grande. A 1970 treaty with Mexico requires that anything built near that river not obstruct its flow. The same treaty applies to a stretch of border in Arizona, where the Colorado River marks the international boundary.

    Some fencing that is already in place along the frontier is built well off the river, in some places nearly a mile (about a kilometer) away from the border.

    Trump will have to navigate not only the treaty maintained by the International Boundary and Water Commission but also various environmental regulations that protect some stretches of border and restrict what kind of structures can be built and where. The contracting notices of March 17 say the Trump administration wants the wall dug at least 6 feet (almost 2 meters) into the ground. Along parts of the border in California, environmentally sensitive sand dunes required that a "floating fence" was built to allow the natural movement of the sand.

    LEGAL CHALLENGES
    Nearly all of the land along the Texas border is privately held - much of it by people whose families have been in the region for generations - and buying their land won't be easy, as Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama discovered. Lawyers for both administrations fought in court with private landowners. Obama's efforts to buy privately held land in the Rio Grande Valley have carried over into Trump's term.

    The Trump administration appears to be preparing for the legal fight and included a request for more lawyers to handle such cases in its budget proposal. Spicer said this past week the administration would "take the steps necessary" to fulfill Trump's promise to secure the southern border.

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    One of the reasons Trump was for RyanCare was that it would have freed up $500 billion to spend on tax cuts, and his Wall. Now that that didn't happen he's kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place, even his tax plans will have to be revamped.

    Rumors have it that he is going to start courting Dem's to go around the "TeaParty/Freedom Caucus". Personally I'm still in the TeaParty camp and regret that Trump is bashing them, he will definitely be tanked if he get's cozy with the Dem's, plus he will loose many of the quiet supporters he had in Nov.

    No wall in the near future I'm afraid.
     
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    That's just as well IMHO, because most illegal aliens didn't cross the border illegally to get here. Most have simply over stayed their welcome.

    Also, the realities of building a 1200 mile long 36' wall along a border that is a river on land that is mostly all privately held, is a huge under taking.
    The land owners alone would keep him tied up in Court for the rest of his term, because the people there mostly don't want a wall.
    ...and that's not even counting the logistics of building a wall like that while maintaining drainages into the river. Those cannot be blocked.

    It would probably be cheaper to just offer some money to go back.
     
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    I understood the wall cost was 2-3 billion. Not pocket change but in the grand scheme it's only 1/3 of 1 days spending

    500 billion is 1/6 of a year's spending
     
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    Trump wants to pay for border wall with $18 BILLION in cuts from domestic programs – including medical research grants
    • President Donald Trump is proposing immediate budget cuts of $18 billion from domestic programs in order to fund his proposed border wall
    • National Institutes of Health medical research will be hit hard, along with infrastructure and community grants
    • Like Trump's proposed 2018 budget, which was panned by both Democrats and Republicans, the proposals have little chance of being enacted
    • President is still trying to front the cost of his border wall while insisting that Mexico will end up funding it on the back end


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    Worth a listen. Hope the wall is still on the drawing board.

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    Trump's border wall hits the design phase, as president says he's reviewed 10 versions but wants to 'see more'
    • President Donald Trump spoke about the border wall he wants to build on the U.S.-Mexico border
    • He told Fox Business he has reviewed 10 different designs
    • He cited a drop in border apprehensions, saying 'people aren't even trying to get through because they know they can't'
    • Tuesday was the deadline for design submissions, although the contracts get awarded in June
    • Trump said during the campaign he would build a 'big, beautiful wall'


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    From the link !

    “We’ve got over a hundred migratory birds that will be impacted from this wall,” Jeff Corwin, a wildlife biologist, told MSNBC’s Craig Melvin.

    I would call him a fucking moron, but I don't want to insult the morons !
    Or, is he talking about "jail birds" ??? LOLOLOL
     
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    I don't think ostriches, emus, and penguins are migratory. "You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
     

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