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United Airlines Forces Passenger Off Plane Due Overbooking

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    Overbooking should be illegal or at the very least painful for the airline. If $800 doesn't trip the trigger, go to $1000, then $1200, then $1500 Then $2000......hell go to $10000. Maybe UA wont continue the practice of overbooking. in the future.
     
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    Overbooking happens because people cancel. They're banking on the averages.
     
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    I miss the 70's... Standby $200 one-way London-San Francisco... on PanAm 747's... Whole row to myself, plenty of legroom, and an ashtray on each seat-armrest... along with free drinks.

    (btw - they didn't "recirculate the air" like today - it was "fresh", not like a smoke-filled bar...)

    Then in the 80's, smokers got seated in the back of the plane...

    In the 90's, had to stand in the back galley to smoke...

    In the 2000's, had to wait 'til the next airport - and "smoking areas".

    In the 2010's, have to wait 'til you've completed ALL YOUR FLIGHT CHANGES... and exit final destination airport...

    So, I belong to a "discriminated minority", haha !!!
     
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    Oh - have to share this with people wanting to travel low-cost transatlantic.

    "Norwegian" has UNBEATABLE pricing - that doesn't show up on "web searches". Like round-trips Boston-Oslo-Nice (south of France) for under $500. Bring your own sandwich, carry-on only... surcharges for checked luggage.

    https://www.norwegian.com/us/bookin...th=201704&AgreementCodeFK=-1&CurrencyCode=USD


    Plenty of other destinations / airports. (available at above link).

    Paris-Copenhagen round-trip for $50, for instance (done that myself a few times).

    But I don't think they show up on your "Expedia" etc. searches...
     
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    Put significant cancelation fees on the ones that cancel. You don't screw with the paying client. My guess is United is gonna lose significantly on this.
     
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    United sucks, flew them to Anchorage and back from Vancouver, they changed flt times, added a layover stop on way back, almost missed the boat because of it, they cared less, scum bags wont ever use them again.
     
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    1987 trip to Italy & they overbooked by 33%. Missed flight. Had to wait until the cluster cluck from the next day to fly & they were doing it all over again.
     
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    Would have been funny if the plane crashed.
     
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    Just make 'em all non-refundable. Save the fee for schedule changes.



    I will say that flying has certainly changed. There was a time when the airlines would bend over backwards for ya. Miss your flight due to the traffic jam you got stuck in gettin' to the airport? No prob, they'd do their best to get ya on the next flight out. Even get ya on a competing airline if necessary. Whatever it took.
    ...but no more. Can't even get a simple invite to the cockpit these days. What's this World comin' to? It's barbaric, I tells ya! lol
     
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    He made a scene and got dragged off the plane like a monkey. Just feed him into an intake.
     
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    IMHO, if UA was willing to pay $3200 plus hotel fees because they needed to have those employees in Louisville the next day, they could have easily rented a van and drove them there. It's only a 5 and a half hour drive. Plenty of time to get them there in time to get sleep for the next days shift.


    The people on the plane bought their tix in good faith. It's not their fault that UA has problems scheduling seats for their own employees.
    Now, that said I do think the guy was a bit too adamant in holding his ground, because once they get it in their mind that you are getting off the plane, it's a no win situation. Either leave or be removed. I'm just sayin' that UA didn't handle the situation correctly.
     
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    "claimed" to be a Dr.? He "alleged" Dr.? Kinda like you "claim" to be a mall cop........
     
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    Most airlines you lose your money if you cancel , you have to buy insurance to get part of your money back. I hope he sues them for 1m and gets it, incompetence on
    their part does not constitute an emergency on a passenger's part who complied with all the bull shit they put you thru.
     
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    If you lose your money for cancelation what is the reason for double booking?
     
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    There is none?

    At the point of departure, any cancellations are not only paid seats, they could be re-sold to any stand-by passengers.

    Edited to add: did anyone see the part of the article where it states that approx 50,000 people with valid tix are bumped from their flights each year? That's almost 6 per hour, 24/7/365.
    IMHO, that's a lot of oversold flights. Too damn many.
     
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    my wife said the articles she was reading said that UA moved 4 stewardesses on to the full plane to get them to their next facility and that is what caused the bump. Who knows. Even if that is the case, UA has to plan ahead alot better
     
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    Oversold flights are the norm. They pack 'em in like sardines and PLAN for paying out overbooked seats.
     
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    Business traveler many times buy refundable or changeable tickets because of the uncertainty of their travel.
     
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    Hey up...! Exciting news!

    United has created a new flying class that’s even worse than economy

    IMG_1051.jpg
     
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    WOW! Man Violently Thrown Off Plane Because United Overbooked Flight.
    Philip DeFranco



    Published on Apr 10, 2017
     
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    United flight witness describes brutal removal of screaming passenger
    Anna Simpson



    Published on Apr 10, 2017
    An United passenger who witnessed Chicago airport police forcibly remove an Asian male from the plan spoke with CNN’s Erin Burnett on Monday, describing the shocking and unbelievable scene that unfolded before him Sunday afternoon.
     
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    Haha. They fucked up big time here. PR fail.
     
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    Could you be dragged off your next flight? Experts reveal why airlines ALWAYS overbook seats and what your rights are if you get bumped
    • Video shows a passenger physically removed from an overbooked United flight
    • Airlines sell more than capacity as chances are not all passengers will show up
    • Based on stats, airlines can predict the most profitable number of seats to sell


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-4401096/Experts-reveal-airlines-overbook-seats.html#ixzz4dwh0tmNM
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    PICTURED: The internal medicine specialist father-of-five who was beaten and dragged off an overbooked United flight as CEO pens 'tone deaf' email DEFENDING staff
    • DailyMail.com can reveal the passenger pulled off the plane was Dr David Dao
    • The 69-year-old Vietnamese-American is married to a pediatrician who has a clinic in Elizabethtown, Kentucky - about 40 miles south of Louisville
    • United's CEO defended airline crew's actions in a letter to employees on Monday
    • Oscar Munoz said Dr Dao left dazed and bloody after being violently dragged off an overbooked flight on Sunday was being 'disruptive and belligerent'
    • 'I want to commend you for continuing to go above and beyond' he told staff
    • United are facing a furious backlash after video showed the 69-year-old being dragged off the plane, and returning while bleeding heavily from the mouth
    • Passenger was selected to give up his seat after no volunteers were found
    • Four people had to give up their seats for United staff needed in Louisville, KY
    • Passengers were offered $1000 to take a flight the next day


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4401444/Name-man-hauled-United-flight-Chicago-revealed.html#ixzz4dwhaNbUJ
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    Yep, right up until everyone actually shows up. Then the airlines can predict who's gonna get f'ed over.
     
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    Don't Be a United Airlines Passenger

    By davidswanson - Posted on 10 April 2017

    Do not sit still like a United Airlines passenger in a video when an injustice is happening. If the other passengers had simply blocked the aisles, corporate thugs could not have dragged their fellow passenger away. If everyone on board had demanded that the airline offer higher compensation until someone volunteered to take a later flight, rather than being violently "reaccommodated," then it would have done so.

    Full article here: http://warisacrime.org/content/dont-be-united-airlines-passenger
     
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    It would have also helped if that offer had been in cash. The "$800" was really $800 in UA vouchers for travel. Possibly even non-transferable too? If so, you couldn't even sell it to get your money if you had no plans of a future flight.

    If I was on that flight and they made the "$800" offer, I'd say gimme that in cash plus refund my tix plus fees in cash and they got a deal. Then go rent a car for $50 and drive to Louisville.
    ...but again, they don't want you to actually make bank on the deal.
     
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    Chicago to Louisville is 5.5 hours tops. A good suburban or Yukon rental woukd have easily gotten the staff there with little effort and less costs.
     
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    Well, that didn't take long!!


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    Pentagon Awards Contract To United Airlines To Forcibly Remove Assad
    [​IMG]By Paul Sharpe On Apr 11, 2017 53,355
    WASHINGTON — The Pentagon announced Tuesday it had awarded a sole-source contract to United Airlines for work related to the forcible removal of President Bashar al-Assad from Syria.

    The contract, worth $2.1 billion, tasks the airline company with locating Assad, grabbing him from his seat in the presidential palace, and “dragging him out of Damascus by his arms.” The contract also notes that Assad should be “asked several times, politely” to give up his seat of power, though if he refuses, United workers should bloody his nose up a bit, according to the posting at FedBizOpps.

    The award comes just days after President Donald Trump authorized the launch of cruise missiles at a Syrian air base, in response to Assad’s use of chemical weapons. Two Navy ships launched 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria, which destroyed roughly 20% of its operational aircraft and a Green Beans Coffee shop being used by the Russian army.

    Soon after the strikes, some in the Trump White House began calling for regime change in Syria. Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the United Nations, told reporters that peace in Syria “could not be achieved” with Assad remaining in power.

    Though US military officials have struggled in recent months with a plan for removing Assad, United Airlines cleared its final hurdle for the military’s request for proposal on Monday, when it ordered police officers to forcibly remove a passenger from a flight that was overbooked.

    Monday’s test run was “more successful than we could have hoped,” said Charlie Hobart, a spokesman for United.

    United will be sending one of its aircraft to Damascus sometime next week, where it will land and carry out the plan called for in the contract.

    It’s not yet clear whether United employees will actually carry out the forcible removal of Assad. One source said it’s possible the company may subcontract that portion of the work requirement to the Chicago Police Department, Wells Fargo, or Comcast.



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    WTF?????????????

    Doctor dragged off United flight was felon who traded prescription drugs for secret gay sex with patient half his age and took them himself - and he needed anger management, was 'not forthright' and had control issues, psychiatrist found
    • Dr David Dao's troubled medical past is revealed in court documents
    • His wife Teresa - also a doctor - reported him to medical authorities and his secret inappropriate gay relationship with a patient was revealed
    • Father of five, 69, was convicted of a felony - but avoided prison time - because he was giving the man prescription drugs in return for gay sex
    • He denied the gay sex even though he was caught on camera shirtless and in his pants with Brian Case, his lover who was a fellow worshiper at his church
    • Psychiatrist found he had series of issues including lacking 'the foundation to navigate difficult situations'
    • One doctor wrote that he 'he would unilaterally chose to do his own thing'
    • He only got his licence back after agreeing to be drug tested and polygraphed
    • United are facing a furious backlash and boycott calls over the video
    • Their stock price plunged as Wall Street reacted to passenger fury
    • DailyMail.com also reveals that the airline told staff he had 'tried to strike law enforcement' - despite no evidence for that on the video


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4401980/Dr-dragged-United-swapped-drugs-secret-gay-sex.html#ixzz4dxYQPRnI
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