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Utah Congressman introduces bill to strip police powers from BLM, Forest Service

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  1. TAEZZAR

    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Utah Congressman introduces bill to strip police powers from BLM, Forest Service
    January 26, 2017 editor 46 comments
    The undeniable perception was that Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agents using dogs, Tasers, armored vehicles, full body armor and automatic weapons to confront a rancher who was delinquent with his grazing fees, constituted a terrifying overreaction.

    The office of Utah Congressman, Jason Chaffetz, issued a press release on January 24 announcing his introduction of legislation to restore equality in law-enforcement authority to Western states. The press release reads:

    Washington, D.C. – Today, Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) released the following statement after reintroducing two bills dealing with the 67 percent of the State of Utah that is under federal ownership.

    “It’s time to get rid of the BLM and US Forest Service police. If there is a problem your local sheriff is the first and best line of defense. By restoring local control in law enforcement, we enable federal agencies and county sheriffs to each focus on their respective core missions.

    “The long overdue disposal of excess federal lands will free up resources for the federal government while providing much-needed opportunities for economic development in struggling rural communities.”

    Bill Details:
    H.R. 622, Local Enforcement for Local Lands Act
    , first introduced last year, removes the law enforcement function from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and U.S. Forest Service. Instead, the bill calls for deputizing local law enforcement, combined with block grant funding, to empower existing duly elected law enforcement offices to carry out these responsibilities. The bill, jointly sponsored by Utah’s Rep. Mia Love and Rep. Chris Stewart, also establishes a formula to reimburse local law enforcement based on the percentage of public land in each state. The resulting cost savings will reduce the BLM budget by five percent and the Forest Service by seven percent.

    This measure is neither arbitrary nor sudden on the part of Congressman Chaffetz. Utah, and its neighbor to the west, Nevada, have been ground zero for conflicts between federal police forces, local sheriff’s departments, and citizens, some of them deadly. Taking a cue from sheriff’s organizations, ranchers, and others in rural parts of the West, Chaffetz first floated the idea last May. The Federalist Papers quoted Chaffetz:

    Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz is sick and tired of Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agents and Forest Service armed to the teeth. It’s dangerous, unnecessary and sends the wrong message.

    “These agents are more Rambo and less Andy Griffith than I would like,” he told the Deseret News Tuesday. So he wants to take away their guns and authority.

    “Let’s not kid ourselves. The blood pressure is running high, especially in southern Utah, and I don’t want anyone to get killed,” Chaffetz said, adding his bill has the endorsement of his Utah colleagues in the House.

    The Republican lawmaker said he also wants to issue subpoenas to the “out of control” federal agencies to find out why exactly they think they need submachine guns. He said he has asked them repeatedly with no satisfactory response.

    “I want to know what kind of arsenal they have. I’m met with blank stares,” he said. “They’re wholly unresponsive. They don’t feel compelled to answer our letters.”

    The federal government’s law-enforcement role in local disputes over resources and land has grown increasingly militant over the years. Images from the Bundy Ranch Standoff in Bunkerville, Nevada, in the spring of 2014, imprinted on the minds of millions exactly the ‘Rambo’ tactics Chaffetz referenced. The undeniable perception was that Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agents using dogs, Tasers, armored vehicles, full body armor and automatic weapons to confront a rancher who was delinquent with his grazing fees, constituted a terrifying overreaction.

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    In 2014, possibly in response to the Bundy Ranch Standoff, the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association drew up a resolution addressing many of the same concerns as the Chaffetz bill. Referring to the 10th Amendment which limits federal power over states and citizens, the resolution reads, in part:

    Pursuant to the powers and duties bestowed upon us by our citizens, the undersigned do hereby resolve that any Federal officer, agent, or employee, regardless of supposed congressional authorization, is required to obey and observe limitations consisting of the enumerated powers as detailed within Article 1 Section 8 of the U S Constitution and the Bill Of Rights.

    The people of these United States are, and have a right to be, free and independent, and these rights are derived from the “Laws of Nature and Nature’s God.” As such, they must be free from infringements on the right to keep and bear arms, unreasonable searches and seizures, capricious detainments and infringements on every other natural right whether enumerated or not. (9th amendment)

    We further reaffirm that “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.” (10th amendment)

    Furthermore, we maintain that no agency established by the U S Congress can develop its own policies or regulations which supersede the Bill of Rights or the Constitution, nor does the executive branch have the power to make law, overturn law or set aside law.

    Although Congressman Chaffetz has never openly encouraged citizens or local or state law-enforcement agents to defy the federal government, his bill would draw a clear line between local and federal authority in law-enforcement, and theoretically end outrageous and dangerous spectacles such as that which erupted over Cliven Bundy’s unpaid grazing fees.

    Federal bureaucrats playing Rambo isn’t the only motive behind the Chaffetz bill. As it states in his press release, the measure will result in a net savings of taxpayer money, despite the provision for federal reimbursements to local law-enforcement agencies given jurisdiction over public lands. Enacting a federal hiring freeze was one of President Trump’s first executive acts. With shrinking budgets and limited powers being the new reality for bloated agencies such as BLM and Forest Service, funds for the federal police state may naturally dry up.

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  2. Alton

    Alton Gold Member Gold Chaser

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    YES! Make THEM give up their guns! Trim back the police state! Help veterans get real jobs and stop playing grunts on American soil.
     
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    Taezz, I took out the double and triple copies of the OP,

    Regardless, this is good news if it can get passed
     
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    Howdy Silver Member Silver Miner

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    It won't get passed. Chaffetz knows it and is using this to position himself as great patriot and defender of our freedoms, which I doubt he gives a rats ass about about.
    My cheerful and optimistic post of the day.
     
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    Buck Fabian Society Gold Chaser

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    Of course he is, good for all of us to notice

    And, unfortunately, he's still a far better candidate, at this time, for the position, than to vote in anyone who will directly oppose any "correction" that's currently taking place

    It's going to take some time to drain the entire swamp and some of that job falls upon us, but like anything else, quality takes time and haste makes waste

    And just think, if his proposal is successful, it won't be - but what if it is - how much ammunition that will free up for us "ammo hungry" folks :)

    I'd say that would be winning
     
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    historyrepete Silver Member Silver Miner

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    That was my first thought. If these agencies were to be abolished the govt auctions would be a must to attend
     
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    Howdy Silver Member Silver Miner

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    The only swamp draining that will be done, if any at all, will involve blood draining of patriots. The alligators in Washington are not going to do it for us.
     
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  8. TAEZZAR

    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Thanks Scorp. I am having a lot of trouble with posting lately & getting multiple alerts of the same posts, & my posts not showing on my 'puter until an hour after posting. I don't know if it is on my end or yours. Any ideas ?
     
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    Scorpio Скорпион Founding Member Board Elder Site Mgr Site Supporter ++

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    sounds to me like a internet connection issue for sure,

    I have seen it before where it is either a computer plugged with all manner or stuff, or the connection itself
     
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    It’s time to get rid of the BLM and US Forest Service police. If there is a problem your local sheriff is the first and best line of defense. By restoring local control in law enforcement, we enable federal agencies and county sheriffs to each focus on their respective core missions.

    About damn time! Whenever I see NFS police making an arrest they are backed by state Dept Natural Resources. The state DNR are the woods police, the fish cops.
    We don't need tree police on top of it. Waste of money and I doubt the DNR wants or needs tree police messing things up and stepping on toes.

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    NOW, If the EPA were put in this bill I would be all for it.
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Our Sheriff is favor of getting the feds out of our County.
    Also, he is giving a talk, this Mon. night, about sanctuary counties, it should be good.
     
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