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Will Trump Split The Scene On The Paris Climate Accord?

Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by searcher, May 31, 2017.



  1. searcher

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    Trump to yank America out of Paris climate change agreement in major foreign policy break with nearly every other nation on earth
    • Trump faced an intense global lobbying effort - he ultimately sided with conservatives in his party and administration over his daughter
    • Ivanka had advised her father against an exit from the accord that commits participants to drastically reducing greenhouse gases
    • European allies had begged Trump not to ditch the pact last week in a series of meetings
    • Even Pope Francis had something to say- he gifted Trump with a copy of his encyclical on the environment when they met last week at the Vatican
    • Climate change agreement has been ratified by 147 nations; the U.S. will join Russia, Iran, North Korea and a string of Third World countries on the sidelines


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4558748/Trump-yank-Paris-agreement.html#ixzz4ifu35sQg
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    With a global ice age on the way he's doing the right thing.

    BF
     
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    Can't wait for NYC and southern CA to slip beneath the waves. I support my president on this one!
     
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    Unfortunately it won't happen in my lifetime or the lifetimes of my children but it would be one way to deal with the concentration of populations.
     
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    Trump is right to try and jolt the mass hypnosis and cult of the weird liberal weather religion out of their bubbles.

    Yes, we absolutely need clean air and pollution control on vehicles. If you have ever been to South America where there is none and your clothes smell like engine emissions while also making it hard to breathe, you would agree.

    Yes, we also need clean water including our beautiful Florida beaches. I have a whole house water filtration system because the water in South Florida is very hard and just not as good as what you find near the springs.
     
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    Please show your displeasure by offing yourselves, dear snowflakes......

    Crushed Obama Aides React to Trump’s Decision to Withdraw from Paris Agreement


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    Former aides to former President Barack Obama reacted sorrowfully to the news that President Donald Trump would withdraw from the Paris Climate agreement, sharing their feelings on Twitter.

    “Malicious idiocy derived from willful ignorance motivated by avarice,” Obama’s former senior advisor Dan Pfeiffer wrote, reacting to the news.

    “Have been in two European cities today. News is all Paris. Vibe is mournful,” wrote Obama’s former speechwriter Cody Keenan. “Feels like U.S. giving up 75 years of global leadership.”

    Keenan also wrote that Trump would be “cursed and loathed” by future generations because of his decision.

    Obama’s former National Security advisor Susan Rice also indicated her disappointment.

    “The cumulative effect of Trump policies, capped by his foolish, tragic Paris decision = abdication of America’s global leadership,” she wrote. “Shame!”

    “Trump destroying ability of any US President, including himself, to garner long term international commitments on anything,” wrote Jesse Lee, a former White House director of rapid response.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ps-decision-to-withdraw-from-paris-agreement/
     
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    Irons - how did you get mark-out text?

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    I hope he does it but I think his daughter and son in law are big followers of that movement.
     
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    Dropping out is a great idea, I support the Trumpster on this one. If you want to clean up on your own, please do so.
     
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    I don't know. The article copied like that so I deleted a bunch of it. There is some fuckery you can do on your keyboard that will strikethrough words or sentences like that.
    I don't know how though.

    I just found it now I can't make it stop!.

    to start it use the [ then a small s followed by another ]

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    The power of the media in action. Almost the entire world on board with this whole climate change thingy. I mean it was global warming but when that didn't pan out it changed to climate change and the sheep bought it hook line and sinker.
     
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    [ s ] [ / s ] Without the spaces.
     
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    Multinational Banks and Corporations Trigger Immediate Angst Over Trump Withdrawal From Paris Treaty…
    Posted on May 31, 2017 by sundance

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    Every word we read, every corporate broadcast, every espoused punditry opinion, every angle that’s visible, everything surrounding the Paris Climate “Treaty”, All.Of.It., is driven by multinational banks and corporations who have a vested financial interest.

    The Paris Climate Treaty has nothing to do with “climate” and everything possible to do with economics, globalism and the controlled redistribution of economic wealth as constructed through decades of advanced policies of multinational financial interests.

    There are factually TRILLIONS of dollars at stake.

    When you consider the pontificating pearl-clutching from the financial and industrial elites, ask yourself this very basic question:

    If Elon Musk (Tesla), Tim Cook (Apple), Larry Page (google), Mark Zuckerberg (facebook), or any of the myriad of multinational executives really cared about “climate change”, then why are they doing business in China?


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    The primary concern for every affiliated entity surrounds economics, not climate. “Climate” issues are the Trojan horse, the false ruse, the talking point, the scheme to get economic systems in place -yes, political systems- to control the distributive flow of larger economic wealth within all nations. Period.

    What ObamaCare was to your loss of healthcare individualism, so too is the Paris Treaty a political tool to deconstruct national economic individualism. FULL-STOP.


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    To understand the larger objectives of the global and financial elite it is important to understand the three-decade global financial construct they seek to protect. Global financial exploitation of national markets:

    ♦Multinational corporations purchase controlling interests in various national elements of developed industrial western nations.
    ♦The Multinational Corporations making the purchases are underwritten by massive global financial institutions, multinational banks.
    ♦The Multinational Banks and the Multinational Corporations then utilize lobbying interests to manipulate the internal political policy of the targeted nation state(s).
    ♦With control over the targeted national industry or interest, the multinationals then leverage export of the national asset (exfiltration) through trade agreements structured to the benefit of lesser developed nation states – where they have previously established a proactive financial footprint.

    The ‘America First’ Trump-Trade Doctrine upsets the entire construct of this multinational export/control dynamic. Team Trump focuses exclusively on bilateral trade deals with specific policy only looking out for the national interests of the United States.

    Under President Trump’s Trade positions exfiltration of U.S. national wealth is essentially stopped. This puts the multinational corporations, globalists who previously took a stake-hold in the U.S. economy with intention to export the wealth, in a position of holding interest of an asset they cannot exploit.


    If you can see the ramifications, and can grasp the inherent anger, you can begin to understand the severity of the opposition to President Trump.

    Multinational corporations and billionaire financiers use climate change as a tool toward furtherance of collected global wealth. Their strategy is quite simple, and has been played out for several cycles. Create an institutional trade instrument (housing financial bubble example), control it, drive the pricing to an apex and reap the financial rewards.

    Their expressed holy grail for human control is a global tax on all people more commonly known as a “carbon-trading tax”. A planetary tax on personage, behavior and activity, through a market-based trade vehicle (Paris Agreement), which they exclusively control; and which subverts the national economic interests of sovereign nations.

    The “Carbon Trading” fundamental financial instrument is the foundational block of the financial interests behind modern climate change. The latest exhibition of a decades long series of international construct was the Paris Climate Change agreement.

    REUTERS – Investors with more than $15 trillion of assets under management urged governments led by the United States to implement the Paris climate accord to fight climate change despite U.S. President Donald Trump’s threats to pull out.

    “As long-term institutional investors, we believe that the mitigation of climate change is essential for the safeguarding of our investments,” according to the letter signed by 214 institutional investors and published on Monday.

    “We urge all nations to stand by their commitments to the Agreement,” it said. Signatories of the letter included the California Public Employees Retirement System and other pension funds from Sweden to Australia. (read more)

    Again, as we have done in the past, we draw attention to the secret meeting in Sea Island Georgia in 2016 when the billionaire vested participants gathered with the political class to discuss how they could stop candidate Donald J Trump.

    2016 -Billionaires, tech CEOs and top members of the Republican establishment flew to a private island resort off the coast of Georgia this weekend for the American Enterprise Institute’s annual World Forum, according to sources familiar with the secretive gathering.

    The main topic at the closed-to-the-press confab? How to stop Republican front-runner Donald Trump. (The meeting was not planned to be a strategy session on how to stop the GOP front-runner, but rather evolved into one, as a subsequently obtained agenda makes clear.)

    Apple CEO Tim Cook, Google co-founder Larry Page, Napster creator and Facebook investor Sean Parker, and Tesla Motors and SpaceX honcho Elon Musk all attended. So did Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), political guru Karl Rove, House Speaker Paul Ryan, GOP Sens. Tom Cotton (Ark.), Cory Gardner (Colo.), Tim Scott (S.C.), Rob Portman (Ohio) and Ben Sasse (Neb.), who recently made news by saying he “cannot support Donald Trump.”

    Along with Ryan, the House was represented by Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Fred Upton (Mich.), Rep. Kevin Brady (Texas) and almost-Speaker Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), sources said, along with leadership figure Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Wash.), Budget Committee Chairman Tom Price (R-Ga.), Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling (Texas) and Diane Black (Tenn.).

    Philip Anschutz, the billionaire GOP donor whose company owns a stake in Sea Island, was also there, along with Democratic Rep. John Delaney, who represents Maryland. Arthur Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times, was there, too, a Times spokeswoman confirmed.

    “A specter was haunting the World Forum—the specter of Donald Trump,” (read more)

    Pay attention to the voices rising up in opposition to President Trump withdrawing from the Paris Climate Treaty and you will identify the same oppositional voices who assembled in all economic matters prior to this moment in 2017. Their vested interests center around the economics, not “the climate”.


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    JUST IN: Tesla & SpaceX CEO Musk says he will depart Trump's advisory councils if US pulls out of Paris climate deal http://cnb.cx/2qBq3Un

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    President Trump is very smart about the long-term ramifications to this ‘treaty’. If the heavily influenced industrialized nations commit themselves to this agreement they will be anchoring their economic manufacturing base within a tiered system of ridiculously burdensome regulations and agreements.

    The strategic benefit to the United States will stem from not participating in the regulatory stranglehold that accompanies the agreement. Obviously all nations that compete with the U.S on international trade agreements would, for once, be at a disadvantage; and our American manufacturing and industrial base would be able to take strategic advantage.


    In larger terms Trump’s refocused policy objectives remove the political benefit from Wall Street and places it back with Main Street, reversing a three decade long shift. This approach is adverse to the interests of the globalists.

    President Trump’s economic team are well aware of the strategic advantage is walking away from the Paris Climate Treaty. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and their entire economic team know what is needed to reverse the decades long construct and defeat the interests of the global elites.

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    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ngst-over-trump-withdrawal-from-paris-treaty/
     
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    If he doesnt drop it I believe Im done supporting him, he has waffled on too many things, mideast, nato ect.
     
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    'Paris Agreement' : "Acknowledging that climate change is a common concern of humankind, Parties should, when taking action to address climate change, respect, promote and consider their respective obligations on human rights, the right to health, the rights of indigenous peoples, local communities, migrants, children, persons with disabilities and people in vulnerable situations and the right to development, as well as gender equality, empowerment of women and intergenerational equity."
     
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    I just sent him a message about the same on the whitehouse link on this site. Not sure if he got it but made me feel better. I told him to quit waffleing and if he cannot do what he said get the hell out of the kitchen. We the people will have the last word whether he wants to lead us or we do it on our own. We will not fail. And if he does not take care of the pedo problem and carbon credit problems none of his base would trust him at all any more.
     
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    Decrease the population and there will plenty to go around.
     
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    Irons - got it, tnx

    or not, whatever

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    In the 70's the scientists said food production couldn't keep pace with population growth thus leading to mass starvation by 2010.
    In the 80's the scientists said if the Brazilian ranchers keep chopping down the rain forest there'd be no more clean air by 2020.
    In the 90's it was? Acid rain? Hole in ozone caused by my can of right guard?
    2000's it was ice caps melting all the cities along the coasts will be underwater by 2025
    2010's Global warming which became Climate change

    Let's recap, there's a cheeseburger stand on every corner and every American is 20lbs overweight. South American beef is delicious, I use rain water in my garden and in squaws flower beds, I use Axe body spray, you don't need scuba lessons to visit NYC, ....it's June 1st and it's like 40 degrees here ......Brrrr.
     
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    You have the story backwards.

    The reason that "climate change" became the more common term in popular discourse is because GOP strategist Ron Luntz focus tested the term "climate change" and it sounded less scary to people than global warming.
    So George Bush used the term in his 2000 campaign against Gore to downplay the seriousness of the challenge.

    Luntz openly admits this, and also admits climate change is real.



     
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    30 minutes to go. If I was Trump I would pull it out and tell those Fers to suck it.
     
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    It’s Official – President Trump Notifies Congress: U.S. Removed From Paris Climate Treaty…
    Posted on June 1, 2017 by sundance

    There have been many rumors and indications in this direction, but President Trump just made it official. The President has notified congressional leadership that he is withdrawing the U.S. from the Paris Climate Treaty…

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    This drives a stake through the heart of multinational banks and multinational corporations who exfiltrate U.S. wealth as an outcome of their business models. There are trillions of dollars in these international Wall Street and K-Street schemes.

    Together with their allies in the progressive media they are going to become even more dangerous now. There is not more dangerous time in the career of a rescue swimmer as the moment he reaches a drowning and desperate man.


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    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...paris-climate-treaty/comment-page-1/#comments
     
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    Great news. Trump probably had a lot of pressure on him from the globalist scum in our government to join this treaty. This one he did for the people, he did this for us real happy on this one.
     
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    I spent a few minutes reading the 'splodey head comments on foux news. It was beautiful seeing their pain.
    Trump peeps are in there kicking them when they're down too, I love that!

    faldo125 minutes ago

    It appears that the world is totally upset with President Trump for pulling out of the Climate Accord.... seems they had plans on spending our money !!!

    :2 thumbs up:
     
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    You think it's a victory, we are on our way to becoming a pariah state.

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    One thing remains consistent my moonbat pal. If hussein obama, algore and the rest of the psycho demonrat party say something is a good idea that means it is a horrible idea. 100%

    As for the rest of the world piss on 'em. The USA has been getting screwed by our great friends in europeistan for decades. Wait until President Trump stops funding NATO and these sniveling girly men have to start paying for their own defense. Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money.


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    Have you been to China? India? Africa? Dominican Republic? Sudan?

    Just because you sign or ratify a treaty doesn't mean you adhere to it. There's probably 30 countries mostly from Europe that follow the guidelines while another 30 "try" to play along and the rest just signed it in hopes of getting plane loads of cash from the EU or Washington to line their pockets with.

    Why should American businesses be hamstrung with this nonsense. Jesus ....half the world relies on us to feed them and suddenly we're polluting the globe. Lol
     
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    Yes what you see on that map is the globalists corporations that rule the world (as you have said yourself ) just got a big pushback from Trump, you should thank him.
     
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    This is by far the biggest accomplishment to date for the Trump administration...imo. Keep it up Mr. President!

    Trump election, Greek vote, Brexit, Macron's close call...I bet globalist slimebags are ditching their single malts for pepto shots at this point. lol
     
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    The US should become a semi-pariah state. We spend more on military than the next 8 highest spenders combined, some of which is US "aid" to Saudi Arabia, Japan, and European allies...plus Israel. We can protect our nation just fine with proper vetting of immigrants. We are also largely self-sufficient in producing food, commodities, and energy. If we could bring back the manufacturing jobs that were lost to NAFTA and other globalist "free trade" agreements to China, Mexico etc., we could become nearly self-sufficient with very little need for cheap, imported goods and commodities from outside our borders. Taper off and end the freebees to generational welfare deadbeats also that are a major drain on the system. I'm not promoting isolationism, but just 3-4 generations ago, the US was the strongest nation in the history of the world. We have been deteriorating rapidly due to past administrations that are clearly bought and paid for by the globalists.
     
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    provide a link to when the Senate ratified this please...
     
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    Bravo. The biggest complaint from many, if not most people is and was the fact that congress was not involved. Obama's constant nonsense about what "we agreed to do" was really what "he" agreed to do to reduce carbon emissions.
     
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    You need to show me where the US ratified this POS treaty. I'm struggling to find it
     
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    DOWS SETS NEW RECORD as President Trump Announces US Withdrawal from Paris Climate Accord

    Jim Hoft Jun 1st, 2017 3:22 pm 87 Comments

    President Trump withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord on Wednesday.


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    The White House audience today broke out in applause when President Trump announced the United States was withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accord.

    What a wonderful day for the American worker!

    The Dow Jones Industrial closed at a record high on the news today.

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    The Dow closed at 21,114.18 today.
    The index was up 135 points on Thursday.
     
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    Aurumag Dimly lit. Highly reflective Midas Member Site Supporter

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    Well, for those who have their "Trump support lines in the sand:"

    What say ye? Speak up now!

    I am now going to provoke this guy:


    So, how long until MY POTUS re-legalizes my possession and discretionary carrying of a suppressed, short-barrelled 5.56 carbine in full-auto?

    Hint:

    BoR Article 2.

    Thank you POTUS Trump, for keeping another promise.

    P.S.

    Now I know why so many of the drones at my uber-liberal place of employ were giving me "the look."

    They all know I voted for Trump.
     
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    Trump just saved us Trillions

    Now, in honor of Paris:

     
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