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12 dead, 6 injured in shooting at Virginia Beach Municipal Center

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This malignant piece of crap did not care about the color of his victims, why does MSM care about his? This latest "Falling Down" loser is just a piece of garbage.
Because "whitey" didn't do it.
That goes against their BLM, Colin Kaepernick, Trayvon Martin, ... "Whitey" is the problem agenda they promote incessantly.
I haven't heard them attack the gun(s) issue on this one either. Tic, Toc, Tic, Toc....
 

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yea no surprise here!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/brea...-on-mass-shootings/ar-AACepdd?ocid=spartanntp

Virginia Beach Police had a workshop planned Saturday on mass shootings


Breaking News


By Madeline Holcombe, CNN

10 hrs ago



The Virginia Beach Police Department had scheduled a free community workshop for Saturday morning on what to do during mass shootings. About 24 hours before the class, a disgruntled employee opened fire in a city building, killing 12 people, police said.
 

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News "from the other side of the pond" doesn't even MENTION that DeWayne Craddock was BLACK and a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT. Or that Virginia Beach (like Chicago) doesn't allow citizens to "carry" (so nobody on the job was able to stop him or slow him down)...
When you state these FACTS on forums, everybody "thumbs you down"... well trained in "political correctness"... They try to pin it down on the Republicans & Trump... and the media is complicit...
 

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Virginia Beach active shooter drill scheduled for tomorrow.



Local media posted this youtube segment 5 hours before the shooting.



Coincidence?
 

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News "from the other side of the pond" doesn't even MENTION that DeWayne Craddock was BLACK and a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT. Or that Virginia Beach (like Chicago) doesn't allow citizens to "carry" (so nobody on the job was able to stop him or slow him down)...
When you state these FACTS on forums, everybody "thumbs you down"... well trained in "political correctness"... They try to pin it down on the Republicans & Trump... and the media is complicit...
"None so blind as he who will not see".
Leftist Conditioning worldwide agenda.
 

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Who thinks this is the Deep State panicking?

Whenever stuff like this happens, I ask myself "What are they trying to distract me from?"

Any suggestions as to what might have been 'displaced' in the recent 'news' cycle??
 

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the hoaxes have nyc media friendly profiles -- demographic, photos, online activity, manifestos, etc...

the real stuff forces them to hide/create b.s.

perfect examples are the trayvon/brown crap they pulled to incite the blacks into a violent rage. those were real events that they had to force into their agenda with deception and outright lies.

what makes them do this is an imbalance in supply/demand. white hate/violence stories = demand far exceeds supply
 
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Who thinks this is the Deep State panicking?

Whenever stuff like this happens, I ask myself "What are they trying to distract me from?"

Any suggestions as to what might have been 'displaced' in the recent 'news' cycle??
Now we are back to the psych handlers.

Follow the meds...
 

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What's Glaringly Missing About the Ted Baxter MSM's Coverage of the Virginia Beach Tragedy

 

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What's Glaringly Missing About the Ted Baxter MSM's Coverage of the Virginia Beach Tragedy

LeftistStreamMedia was slow on the delivery of a photo of the killer ( wrong race), not much on the two weapons even explaining the one pull one shot action of the semi-autos used ( at least the NBC broadcast last night) but jumped all over the HIGH CAPACITY Magazines and one SUPPRESSOR they liked calling an "silencer".
and No reference to his political stance: Card Carrying Democrat.
What was important to the leftists was minutia to the average American. IMHO
 

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stereotype confirmed

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...ed-violent-workplace-scuffle-shortly-shooting

While Craddock had no history of violence at work or in his personal life, according to the New York Times, he had been involved in a violent incident in the workplace in recent weeks, and had been warned that disciplinary action would be taken.

City officials including City Manager David Hansen said Craddock "was still employed" by the city at the time of the attack. "He had a security pass like all employees had and he was authorized to enter the building."
 

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Latest news from BIL, had to be escorted to get his car back since it’s considered a crime scene. His department suffered the most casualties. Whole place will be out of commission for at least a week if not more. Many of the LE and first responders knew a lot the victims. VA Beach may not be small but it’s small enough. Definitely going to be felt for a long time.
 

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Virginia BEACH is a GUN FREE zone. Leftist controlled City = Gun Free city.
 

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Always found this funny about life and would joke with coworkers about it. Not that there is anything funny about this tragedy... but there will be 12 job positions open.
 

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Virginia BEACH is a GUN FREE zone. Leftist controlled City = Gun Free city.
If that were true then the perp shouldn't have disobeyed the law and those people would still be alive!
 

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DeWayne Craddock was violent with co-workers before Virginia Beach shooting: report
By Lee Brown
June 2, 2019

The gunman who shot dead 12 people at a Virginia Beach municipal building had been facing disciplinary action for a violent fight at work, according to a report.


DeWayne Craddock

DeWayne Craddock, 40, was still employed as an engineer with the Department of Public Utilities when he went on his shooting rampage Friday, killing 12 and injuring several others, including a cop.

But he recently started showing serious behavioral problems and got into physical “scuffles” with other city workers, a source told The New York Times.

The source told the paper that the troubles had escalated in the week leading up to the mass shooting — and Craddock was involved in what it called “a violent altercation on city grounds.”

Craddock reportedly knew he was facing disciplinary action for the fight when he went into the municipal building with two .45-caliber handguns, at least one of which was equipped with a sound suppressor — and both of which were purchased legally.

Craddock killed 12 people, all but one a co-worker, and injured several others before he died in a police shootout.

He launched the attack after brushing his teeth — and sharing pleasantries with a fellow engineer.

His family posted a handwritten note outside their Yorktown, Va. home, offering ” heartfelt condolences to the victims,” according to The Washington Post.

“We are grieving the loss of our loved one. At this time we wish to focus on the victims and the lives loss [sic] during yesterdays tragic event,” the note said.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of those who loss [sic] their lives, and those recovering in the hospital.”

“They’re beautiful people, both,” Betty Ware, a deaconess, said of Craddock’s parents, saying his mother would talk about their children “all the time.”

“She was just proud of them, her children,” Ware told the Washington Post.
 

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If that were true then the perp shouldn't have disobeyed the law and those people would still be alive!
They are called "OUTLAWS" for a reason.
 

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Note: this has not been confirmed... take w grain of salt.

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blacks do mass shootings every week. i can fill up this forum with the local news reports of them. this is just another on a long looooong list

it is innate - God's design. to deny their proclivity for violence/murder is fighting God.

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Always found this funny about life and would joke with coworkers about it. Not that there is anything funny about this tragedy... but there will be 12 job positions open.
I know, what a way to land a position huh ?
Played in the symphony for some years and when I left ( $ called ) the guy who took my chair was on his way to
rehearsal one night with his wife who played viola up in the front.
She said to him " hey Ralph, check out that car coming, he is swerving and I think he is drunk "
Ralph says " I see him "
You know where this is going...
Drunk cat , even though they tried to avoid, hits them and kills Ralph.
So my old horn teacher gets a call to substitute for the position,
and he says
" What a way to get a gig "
Never forgot that.

Sorry for the thread drift.
 

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I know, what a way to land a position huh ?
Played in the symphony for some years and when I left ( $ called ) the guy who took my chair was on his way to
rehearsal one night with his wife who played viola up in the front.
She said to him " hey Ralph, check out that car coming, he is swerving and I think he is drunk "
Ralph says " I see him "
You know where this is going...
Drunk cat , even though they tried to avoid, hits them and kills Ralph.
So my old horn teacher gets a call to substitute for the position,
and he says
" What a way to get a gig "
Never forgot that.

Sorry for the thread drift.
My BIL is dealing with this right now. He's been a contractor there for several years due to politics, cronyism, etc. Now he's pretty much looking at being offered a full time position due the death of colleagues and the feeling is quite uneasy. What a way to get what you wanted.
 

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Virginia Beach Needs To Come Clean

Could a CYA operation be underway in Virginia Beach?

Actually, it looked like that within hours of the massacre at the municipal center, when city officials insisted that shooter DeWayne Craddock - and yes, I’m using his name because I don’t believe in censoring the news - was an unremarkable employee in good standing.

Most of the local media dutifully reported what was being fed to them by city officials. National media outlets, however, went beyond that.

The New York Times and The New York Post reported that the shooter had been involved in “scuffles” with fellow employees and even a “violent altercation.” There were reports that Craddock was about to face some sort of disciplinary action.

Confirmation from the city that Craddock had resigned his position came later.

I was out of town last weekend, but in a long-distance telephone interview with attorney Kevin Martingayle - a family friend of Katherine Nixon, one of the shooting victims - I learned that she’d told her husband she was concerned about Craddock and another city employee who’d been fired and escorted from the building shortly before the massacre.

Katherine Nixon even considered bringing a handgun to work on the day she was shot to death - because the worker who’d just been sacked had “made some kind of threatening remark, like ‘I’m coming back,’ as he was escorted from the premises,” Martingayle told me.

She didn’t bring a weapon because “it was against policy.”

“The sick irony is that she was mostly focused on the guy who’d been fired,” Martingayle said.

Her discomfort with Craddock, on the other hand, went back “as much as one and a half years.”

Martingayle says Nixon’s husband believes his wife - who worked in a different department from the gunman - may have “written him up” for something. The lawyer said that Katherine Nixon believed Craddock wasn’t a good engineer and that he “had a bad attitude.”

Katherine Nixon was “highly competent with a handgun” Martingayle added, although there is no way to know if she would have been able to protect herself or others if she’d been armed that afternoon.

Despite an affable mayor who’s pledged transparency in business deals, the information flow about the killing spree is being controlled by the city manager and his staff who have no history of transparency.

Anyone else remember the sad case of Michael Knockett? He was the 52-year-old homeless man who was crushed to death by a city garbage truck on the beach on the morning of June 28, 2010. After the incident, the party line was that Knockett was hidden in some sort of “blind spot” on the beach or a depression in the sand and couldn’t be seen by the driver. That fabrication stood until a beachgoer came forward with a photo of Knockett upright and easily visible in a white hat, bright blue blanket and sitting in a beach chair moments before his death.

Had that photograph not surfaced, the city’s disinformation would have stood and the family of the dead man would not have collected the $500,000 settlement they eventually took from the city.

If the Knockett case taught us anything, it’s to ask questions. A lot of them. And to be suspicious of easy answers that make the city look good.

Martingayle, on behalf of Katherine Nixon’s family, is asking the city to immediately initiate an outside investigation into the massacre and the events leading up to it. This would be separate from the criminal investigation.

“The FBI isn’t going to look at what the city could have done to prevent the shootings or what it can do to prevent tragedies in the future,” the lawyer said. “That’s not their role.”

Martingayle is right to lean on these reticent officials to come clean now. We should add our voices to his. Craddock has no privacy rights. He’s dead. He took 12 innocent people with him.

Release Craddock’s personnel file. Today. An investigator - with no ties to city government - should tell us if there were concerns about his behavior or mental health.

Oh, and the city should remove the redactions from that weird resignation letter sent by the shooter.

If history is any predictor, city officials will shield as much information as possible, especially anything that casts authorities in a bad light. They’ll use the criminal investigation, which could last months, as an excuse.

News flash: A probe into security and safety at the municipal center can run concurrent with a criminal investigation into the massacre.

The people of Virginia Beach have been through a trauma. Many want to know how this happened.

If officials knew - or should have known - that Craddock was a violent man or suffering from mental illness and did nothing, or if they knew security in Building Two was lacking and did nothing to fix it, tell us now. If the city had no culpability, if there was nothing that could have been done to make the workplace safer, that would be good to know, too.

Don’t force the public to wait for a website or The New York Times to uncover the truth.

KERRY DOUGHERTY
 

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Watching cover ups is always fun, but you know lawsuits are coming.
 

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Virginia Beach Needs To Come Clean

Could a CYA operation be underway in Virginia Beach?

Actually, it looked like that within hours of the massacre at the municipal center, when city officials insisted that shooter DeWayne Craddock - and yes, I’m using his name because I don’t believe in censoring the news - was an unremarkable employee in good standing.

Most of the local media dutifully reported what was being fed to them by city officials. National media outlets, however, went beyond that.

The New York Times and The New York Post reported that the shooter had been involved in “scuffles” with fellow employees and even a “violent altercation.” There were reports that Craddock was about to face some sort of disciplinary action.

Confirmation from the city that Craddock had resigned his position came later.

I was out of town last weekend, but in a long-distance telephone interview with attorney Kevin Martingayle - a family friend of Katherine Nixon, one of the shooting victims - I learned that she’d told her husband she was concerned about Craddock and another city employee who’d been fired and escorted from the building shortly before the massacre.

Katherine Nixon even considered bringing a handgun to work on the day she was shot to death - because the worker who’d just been sacked had “made some kind of threatening remark, like ‘I’m coming back,’ as he was escorted from the premises,” Martingayle told me.

She didn’t bring a weapon because “it was against policy.”

“The sick irony is that she was mostly focused on the guy who’d been fired,” Martingayle said.

Her discomfort with Craddock, on the other hand, went back “as much as one and a half years.”

Martingayle says Nixon’s husband believes his wife - who worked in a different department from the gunman - may have “written him up” for something. The lawyer said that Katherine Nixon believed Craddock wasn’t a good engineer and that he “had a bad attitude.”

Katherine Nixon was “highly competent with a handgun” Martingayle added, although there is no way to know if she would have been able to protect herself or others if she’d been armed that afternoon.

Despite an affable mayor who’s pledged transparency in business deals, the information flow about the killing spree is being controlled by the city manager and his staff who have no history of transparency.

Anyone else remember the sad case of Michael Knockett? He was the 52-year-old homeless man who was crushed to death by a city garbage truck on the beach on the morning of June 28, 2010. After the incident, the party line was that Knockett was hidden in some sort of “blind spot” on the beach or a depression in the sand and couldn’t be seen by the driver. That fabrication stood until a beachgoer came forward with a photo of Knockett upright and easily visible in a white hat, bright blue blanket and sitting in a beach chair moments before his death.

Had that photograph not surfaced, the city’s disinformation would have stood and the family of the dead man would not have collected the $500,000 settlement they eventually took from the city.

If the Knockett case taught us anything, it’s to ask questions. A lot of them. And to be suspicious of easy answers that make the city look good.

Martingayle, on behalf of Katherine Nixon’s family, is asking the city to immediately initiate an outside investigation into the massacre and the events leading up to it. This would be separate from the criminal investigation.

“The FBI isn’t going to look at what the city could have done to prevent the shootings or what it can do to prevent tragedies in the future,” the lawyer said. “That’s not their role.”

Martingayle is right to lean on these reticent officials to come clean now. We should add our voices to his. Craddock has no privacy rights. He’s dead. He took 12 innocent people with him.

Release Craddock’s personnel file. Today. An investigator - with no ties to city government - should tell us if there were concerns about his behavior or mental health.

Oh, and the city should remove the redactions from that weird resignation letter sent by the shooter.

If history is any predictor, city officials will shield as much information as possible, especially anything that casts authorities in a bad light. They’ll use the criminal investigation, which could last months, as an excuse.

News flash: A probe into security and safety at the municipal center can run concurrent with a criminal investigation into the massacre.

The people of Virginia Beach have been through a trauma. Many want to know how this happened.

If officials knew - or should have known - that Craddock was a violent man or suffering from mental illness and did nothing, or if they knew security in Building Two was lacking and did nothing to fix it, tell us now. If the city had no culpability, if there was nothing that could have been done to make the workplace safer, that would be good to know, too.

Don’t force the public to wait for a website or The New York Times to uncover the truth.

KERRY DOUGHERTY
If he was white this would be the lead story every night on all the MSM for a year!! Racism IS real!!!