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12 Wettest Months In 125 Years

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One interesting question for all the GW people. Do you get disappointed and go into denial when data is released that shows something counter to global warming?

Why? Do you really look forward to the demise of the human race?
I read a lot of comments on various internet boards etc. I'll tell you, there are a lot of people cheering this on. They want (or say they want) the extinction of humans. They get angry and hostile if you present evidence otherwise. Its like pictures of gay pride parades. I get the distinct notion that there is a widespread acceleration of mental illness.
 

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Minnesota is cold in June. Ok....

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1981-2010 isn't even a tiny fraction of a blink of an eye in the history of the planet.

It has been much hotter (and much colder) in the past than it is now,
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The fact that we have warmed 1C in the blink of an eye, rather than on a timescale of 10,000 or 20,000 years (as with orbital precession / glaciation ) is just one of many lines of evidence pointing to human activity as the cause. We are warming on a timescale of decades, or even sub-decadal, not centuries, millennia or multi-millennia.
 

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gnome,

don't have a problem with the charts, as they or it can be quantifiable,
I presume most here agree, and some of us have talked of our experiences over time noticing the changes

If you remember back in the day, ozone depletion was the rule at the time. They declared we needed to change, as once the ozone was gone, it was gone, the earth would warm and on it went.

Well, it turns out, we made some changes, and like Lake Erie, nature is healing itself, wherein the ozone is projected to go to normal some years out.

Stating this, then a question becomes, does ozone depletion contribute to the warming, thereby rising co2?

etc, So when they are declaring the answers, do they really know?

I argue they do not.
Perhaps it feels like a moving goalpost?

Ozone layer is somewhat tangential to global warming, and a bit complex. The primary problem with depleting ozone is not warming or cooling but people getting cataracts and skin cancer from increased UV exposure. (yes, generally sun is good for us, but even water is toxic if you get to much).

O3 is actually a greenhouse gas, so less ozone = cooling....except that CFC's are also greenhouse gasses.
At any rate, O3 and CFC's are both bit players, compared to water vapor, co2, methane which are the top 3 greenhouse gasses by concentration in the atmosphere. The infra-red trapping properties of co2, methane, and water vapor were quantified in the lab in 1860, so the science has been very consistent on this for 150+ years, and the ultimate measure of any theory is can it predict accurately. Models are far from perfect, because climate is incredibly complex, but look at James Hansen's testimony to congress in 1988 and it is spot on. We are right in the middle of his forecasts 30 years later. Compare that with the lukewarmers or skeptics and you will find they fail miserably at predicting climate changes.

Here is Hansen vs Lindzen, arguable the most respected climate skeptic.
We are currently at 1c above baseline in 2019. I wish I could predict financial markets with that kind of accuracy.
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The fact that we have warmed 1C in the blink of an eye, rather than on a timescale of 10,000 or 20,000 years (as with orbital precession / glaciation ) is just one of many lines of evidence pointing to human activity as the cause. We are warming on a timescale of decades, or even sub-decadal, not centuries, millennia or multi-millennia.
You do know that Climatologists are beginning to realize that there have been drastic climate fluctuations of 5C or more in as few as 5 years right? Well before humans had learned how to plant seeds as well...
 

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The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever
New data shows that the “vanishing” of polar ice is not the result of runaway global warming

Two weeks ago, under the headline “How we are being tricked by flawed data on global warming”, I wrote about Paul Homewood, who, on his Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog, had checked the published temperature graphs for three weather stations in Paraguay against the temperatures that had originally been recorded. In each instance, the actual trend of 60 years of data had been dramatically reversed, so that a cooling trend was changed to one that showed a marked warming.
This was only the latest of many examples of a practice long recognised by expert observers around the world – one that raises an ever larger question mark over the entire official surface-temperature record.


Watch: Climate change explained in 60 second animation

Following my last article, Homewood checked a swathe of other South American weather stations around the original three. In each case he found the same suspicious one-way “adjustments”. First these were made by the US government’s Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN). They were then amplified by two of the main official surface records, the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (Giss) and the National Climate Data Center (NCDC), which use the warming trends to estimate temperatures across the vast regions of the Earth where no measurements are taken. Yet these are the very records on which scientists and politicians rely for their belief in “global warming”.
 

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Perhaps it feels like a moving goalpost?

Ozone layer is somewhat tangential to global warming, and a bit complex. The primary problem with depleting ozone is not warming or cooling but people getting cataracts and skin cancer from increased UV exposure. (yes, generally sun is good for us, but even water is toxic if you get to much).

O3 is actually a greenhouse gas, so less ozone = cooling....except that CFC's are also greenhouse gasses.
At any rate, O3 and CFC's are both bit players, compared to water vapor, co2, methane which are the top 3 greenhouse gasses by concentration in the atmosphere. The infra-red trapping properties of co2, methane, and water vapor were quantified in the lab in 1860, so the science has been very consistent on this for 150+ years, and the ultimate measure of any theory is can it predict accurately. Models are far from perfect, because climate is incredibly complex, but look at James Hansen's testimony to congress in 1988 and it is spot on. We are right in the middle of his forecasts 30 years later. Compare that with the lukewarmers or skeptics and you will find they fail miserably at predicting climate changes.

Here is Hansen vs Lindzen, arguable the most respected climate skeptic.
We are currently at 1c above baseline in 2019. I wish I could predict financial markets with that kind of accuracy. View attachment 134134
East Antarctic Ice Has a Wild Past. It May Be a Harbinger
The East Antarctic ice sheet has fluctuated wildly in the past, a study finds—adding to concerns of a dramatic meltback in the future.

During cold periods, the researchers found, the ice advanced 100 miles or more beyond its present-day edge, bulldozing out onto the continental shelf. In warm times, it ice shrank to less than its present-day size, retreating far into the Aurora Basin.
 

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You have to look hard to find a temperature graph that goes past 1880...in this one you can see the "little ice age" that today's climate acolytes conveniently ignore because it doesn't fit their religious agenda:

 

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Wait...you mean we've had "warming" for the last century and the sun's output has risen? You DONT SAY????

Sun's Activity Increased in Past Century, Study Confirms

The energy output from the Sun has increased significantly during the 20th century, according to a new study.

Many studies have attempted to determine whether there is an upward trend in the average magnitude of sunspots and solar flares over time, but few firm conclusions have been reached.

Now, an international team of researchers led by Ilya Usoskin of the Sodankylä Geophysical Observatory at the University of Oulu, Finland, may have the answer. They examined meteorites that had fallen to Earth over the past 240 years. By analyzing the amount of titanium 44, a radioactive isotope, the team found a significant increase in the Sun's radioactive output during the 20th century.

Over the past few decades, however, they found the solar activity has stabilized at this higher-than-historic level.


Also from the story:

The rise in solar activity at the beginning of the last century through the 1950s or so matches with the increase in global temperatures, Usoskin said. But the link doesn't hold up from about the 1970s to present.

"During the last few decades, the solar activity is not increasing. It has stabilized at a high level, but the Earth's climate still shows a tendency toward increasing temperatures," Usoskin explained.

I'll tell you why the leveling out of solar activity hasn't apparently impacted the Earth's climate...because the solar output is still higher than normal, it just hasn't kept increasing. It's just like why the shortest day of the year isn't the coldest day of the year; there is a 30-degree (angle) lag between solar influence on the earth and seasonal temperatures...
 

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This is eastern Indiana on June 19th....
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Spent the last 3 days running around northwest Indiana with basically 4 broad categories of land inclusive from Michigan state line south 2 counties and west to Illinois state line:
prairie - flat
prairie - rolling
Sandy soil (northern tier of counties along Lake Michigan - LaPorte, Porter, Lake)
swamp/wetlands/upland marsh - headwaters for Kankakee river and watershed to Kankakee and St. Joe rivers.

crop condition percentages by my best estimation of land viewed:
33.333% late to extreme late planted (some second attempt planting)
33.333% unplantable due to rain/rain damage (first attempt planting washed out/killed)
33.333% fallow due to planned field crop rotation or fallow due to field flooding (more than 50% of this portion)

Corn has been planted. Best sighted fields corn was at ~ 1 foot in height as of today 20 June 2019 with 2 fields with corn spotted at ~ 15" in height. Over 60% of fields spotted with viable corn plants were in 4 inch or smaller plants. Some plants/fields appeared thin and plants "puny"

Spotted soy fields were looking good and healthy but plants were at 1.5" height or smaller.

Those who planted feed grasses (hay/alfalfa/timothy) should do well as grasses were seen at 15"+ heights looking quite healthy and dense. One person was seen as having made a first mowing and baling.

All in all a damned rough start to what will certainly be a very late harvest assuming the weather pattern changes.

Did make a pass through southern Elkhart county/northern Marshall county to the south and east of St. Joe county. The land tends to be more flat with drainage slowed/halted by subsoil pockets of clay. More ponding and standing water was with a few roads exhibiting flooding. Where soils had appeared dried at the surface there no plants seen and a few weeds were quite young and growing. ALL plantings appeared late as all observed plants of any species were below 6" in height.

If you are or aren't planting sufficient veggies and fruits for your own consumption this would be a good year to stock up on frozen veggies and fruits or canned veggies and fruits. Harvest will be quite thin AND expensive this year. Due to livestock feed consumption acquiring and storing meats now would also be a smart idea as I'm sure herds will be thinned to conserve on feed costs and so will drive up the cost of meats later this year.
 

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North central Ohio very flat glacier covered area is so wet on the way home tonight it was so wet fields were flooded and covering roads to the point of driving 40 mph so you could crawl through the flooded areas. Got home & there is a cone in the road warning drivers of water covering edges of the road. Weat looks good when it's not flooded and corn varies from just popped up 2-3" to 10-12". Best guess is 50% of acerage not planted. Have not seen any cabbage or pickles. Last years cut off corn sticking up through growing weeds if it was not green and leaves on the trees you would think it was a cold wet day in November. So much clay water just sits and without sun can't go anywhere.

My bees are having a hard time & hitting feeders hard even in the rain. Rain has washed off pollen & nectar. Cold weather is keeping them inside to keep brood warm. Virgin queens not getting mated. Mullberrys are smaller, not as sweet and late. Lilac never had many blooms. Cherry blossom tree never popped either. Neighbors strawberrys are small and not very sweet.
 

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You do know that Climatologists are beginning to realize that there have been drastic climate fluctuations of 5C or more in as few as 5 years right? Well before humans had learned how to plant seeds as well...
Hadn't heard that. Did humans even exist? The last time co2 was at 415ppm humans did not exist.
 

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Hadn't heard that. Did humans even exist? The last time co2 was at 415ppm humans did not exist.

Exactly. I'm not trying to suggest that humans don't have a negative impact on the climate; but the religious leaders who manipulate data, hide data and obfuscate facts in order to sell their agenda are being disingenuous at best...and you have to ask yourself "why?"....
 

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Exactly. I'm not trying to suggest that humans don't have a negative impact on the climate; but the religious leaders who manipulate data, hide data and obfuscate facts in order to sell their agenda are being disingenuous at best...and you have to ask yourself "why?"....
Sell their agenda, and get big fat easy money grants, courtesy of We The Taxpayers.
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Sell their agenda, and get big fat easy money grants, courtesy of We The Taxpayers.
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For some, yes. For others, it's about control and power of the masses. Those are the ones to watch and worry about.
 

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And now for something completely different.

From a year ago, but the LameStream Media still won't touch it.

Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling


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Inconvenient Science: NASA data show that global temperatures dropped sharply over the past two years. Not that you'd know it, since that wasn't deemed news. Does that make NASA a global warming denier?

Writing in Real Clear Markets, Aaron Brown looked at the official NASA global temperature data and noticed something surprising. From February 2016 to February 2018, "global average temperatures dropped by 0.56 degrees Celsius." That, he notes, is the biggest two-year drop in the past century.

"The 2016-2018 Big Chill," he writes, "was composed of two Little Chills, the biggest five month drop ever (February to June 2016) and the fourth biggest (February to June 2017). A similar event from February to June 2018 would bring global average temperatures below the 1980s average."
Isn't this just the sort of man-bites-dog story that the mainstream media always says is newsworthy?

In this case, it didn't warrant any news coverage.

In fact, in the three weeks since Real Clear Markets ran Brown's story, no other news outlet picked up on it. They did, however, find time to report on such things as tourism's impact on climate change, how global warming will generate more hurricanes this year, and threaten fish habitats, and make islands uninhabitable. They wrote about a UN official saying that "our window of time for addressing climate change is closing very quickly."
Reporters even found time to cover a group that says they want to carve President Trump's face into a glacier to prove climate change "is happening."

In other words, the mainstream news covered stories that repeated what climate change advocates have been saying ad nauseam for decades.

That's not to say that a two-year stretch of cooling means that global warming is a hoax. Two years out of hundreds or thousands doesn't necessarily mean anything. And there could be a reasonable explanation. But the drop in temperatures at least merits a "Hey, what's going on here?" story.

What's more, journalists are perfectly willing to jump on any individual weather anomaly — or even a picture of a starving polar bear — as proof of global warming. (We haven't seen any stories pinning Hawaii's recent volcanic activity on global warming yet, but won't be surprised if someone tries to make the connection.)

We've noted this refusal to cover inconvenient scientific findings many times in this space over the years.

Hiding The Evidence

There was the study published in the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate showing that climate models exaggerate global warming from CO2 emissions by as much as 45%. It was ignored.

Then there was the study in the journal Nature Geoscience that found that climate models were faulty, and that, as one of the authors put it, "We haven't seen that rapid acceleration in warming after 2000 that we see in the models."

Nor did the press see fit to report on findings from the University of Alabama-Huntsvilleshowing that the Earth's atmosphere appears to be less sensitive to changing CO2 levels than previously assumed.

How about the fact that the U.S. has cut CO2 emissions over the past 13 years faster than any other industrialized nation? Or that polar bear populations are increasing? Or that we haven't seen any increase in violent weather in decades?

Crickets.

Reporters no doubt worry that covering such findings will only embolden "deniers" and undermine support for immediate, drastic action.
But if fears of catastrophic climate change are warranted — which we seriously doubt — ignoring things like the rapid cooling in the past two years carries an even bigger risk.

Suppose, Brown writes, the two-year cooling trend continues. "At some point the news will leak out that all global warming since 1980 has been wiped out in two and a half years, and that record-setting events went unreported."

He goes on: "Some people could go from uncritical acceptance of steadily rising temperatures to uncritical refusal to accept any warming at all."
Brown is right. News outlets should decide what gets covered based on its news value, not on whether it pushes an agenda. Otherwise, they're doing the public a disservice and putting their own already shaky credibility at greater risk.

https://www.investors.com/politics/...ange-global-warming-earth-cooling-media-bias/
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Told ya....after wet wet wet march April and may....my area has had less than 1.75 inches since memorial day....grass turns brown quick...yards cracking.... temps pushing 90 daily...people all starting to clamor for rain...lol