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2013 $50 Uncirculated Gold Eagle on sale today at noon

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Sales @ week 28:

2011: 7674
2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
2014: 6363
 

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Yea, the 2012 is definitely safe for another year at least -- no short strike of the 2014. My hunch is they struck about 7,000 of the '14's, which will make it decent for a long term play. The mint tends to strike fewer than the prior year's sales to play it safe. Frankly as of today the '13 spouses look like a better shot.
 

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Sales @ week 29:

2011: 7745
2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
2014: 6749
 

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the next question... when will the Mint announce the "sale out"?
and one more... per the greysheet, why does 2011 cost more than 2013?

2012 remains king but when it's all said and done, 2014 will be interesting
 

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Sales @ week 31:

2011: 7791
2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
2014: 7354
I would expect a sellout soon. With sales like this the mint can be expected to strike about this many of next year's coin too, which means the 2012 will be safe for awhile yet.
 

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I would expect a sellout soon. With sales like this the mint can be expected to strike about this many of next year's coin too, which means the 2012 will be safe for awhile yet.
1) proof gold eagles
2) proof gold buffalo
3) proof gold spouses
4) unc gold spouses
5) bullion gold eagles
6) bullion gold buffalo
7) 2015 24kt UHR
8) unc gold eagle

that's a lot of gold to choose from next year given the offers. I believe the unc eagle and hags will remain low in terms of mintage on the list. Between bullion, the new UHR and proof eagles, those alone are +3000FRNs.

but if sales remain under 8000, the unc eagle will remain a good overall choice to have in the stash
 

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Probably see an adjustment in next weeks report... see you guys when the '15 arrives

Sales @ week 34:

2011: 7944
2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
2013: 7298 sold out @ wk 27
2014: 7794 sold out @ wk 34
 

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I will try and add as hernancortes and MrLucky update...

'Coin Dealer' ask pricing(in fiat)... as of Jan 02 2015

2011: $2400
2012: $2775
2013: $1500
2014: ?????
 

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The mint must be adjusting the numbers...

2014 @ week 36: 7901

2014 @ week 37: 7894

2014 @ week 38: 7898
 
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I"ve been negligent, let's just start it up again for kicks:
CUMULATIVE SALES AT WEEK 14 OF AVAILABILITY, $50 GOLD UNC-W A.G.E.

2011: 4145
2012: 5487
2013: 5480
2014: 3970
2015: 3791

P.S. --- 1000 POSTS!! go me
 

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Same NUMBER today on sales from 8-11-15

http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/cumulativeSalesStatistics/

3,850 on 2015 W I oz AGE burnished... UNCHANGED like near many of the spouses...

Just too many other gold coins to chose from
BUFFs
AGE proofs
Liberty
Spouses
Commemoratives

Did the same type thing in many prior years from the 1800s - and made LOTS of rare MINTED coins (think 2008!) (think 1996!) think think think...

You name it... Mint flooded the PM coin market and the collector market is BUSTED with no cash flow...


PS the speculator, investor, and smart (bankster) money - PM market on the other hand is turning slowly around now - who KNOWS?
But if it really goes crazy (read UPWARD and BEYOND) then many folks will be surprised... right?

DYODD
 

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week 22:

2011: 5919
2012: 6114 sold out
2013: 7070
2014: 5579
2015: 4983 ( edit: the official mint report for week 22 now has it at 3,991 which makes no sense... there's not nearly enough coins eligible to be returned from week 21)
 
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I'm still tracking these on the spreadsheet along with the other years. I'll post it when they sell out. Maybe I'll put it in my dropbox folder if anyone wants a copy.
 

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week 27:

2011: 7316
2012: 6114 sold out @ wk 20
2013: 7326 sold out @ wk 27
2014: 6193
2015: 5603
 

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In the long run, IMHO stick with close to melt Bullion-like issues.......too much product, chances any of these contrived for profit issues booming is very, very slim.
 
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In the long run, IMHO stick with close to melt Bullion-like issues.......too much product, chances any of these contrived for profit issues booming is very, very slim.
In general you're right and this coin costs about $250 more than a common gold eagle, but the whole point of keeping track of this is to see whether it has a shot at becoming key. If for some reason this coin would go off sale anytime soon, it would be key and you'd see $2000 (raw) real quick on it in short order, irrespective of what gold spot does. We are in the time window right now whee the mint will not strike any more of these coins. It's unlikely they struck much fewer than 7000 but you never know.
 

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In the long run, IMHO stick with close to melt Bullion-like issues.......too much product, chances any of these contrived for profit issues booming is very, very slim.
Investment vs. Collectible... There is a difference.

Given the products
1) Bullion Gold Eagles
2) Uncirculated Gold Eagles
3) Proof Gold Eagles

It all depends on the individual.
From a profit perspective, yes the uncirculated eagle takes more FRNs than a bullion eagle but time has shown that (with gold over 1000FRN), many cannot afford all of the US Mints given products.

Since most cannot tell the difference between the bullion and uncirculated, the unc. does not move as the other coins. With a mintage that is low and the aftermarket being interested in the coin, the price of all unc. gold eagles is attractive. This numismatic element of the unc. eagle IMO makes it a coin to invest in, if it could be afforded.

Similar to penny vs premium stocks
 
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