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2013 AE Platinum Proof Sell Out

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I had feelers out for three or four but only one came through. I have been collecting the proof series for years (I actually sold them all when platinum was $2200/oz and then started purchasing again when it fell to about $1500/oz). At this point I wouldn't let someone pry my lone example out of my hands for multiples of what it is going for. The mintage of 4,000 makes for an undeniable key in what is now a series going on twenty years. I do, however, find it amazing that if I was lucky enough to get two then the extra would likely have paid for both of them within weeks - amazing!
 

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If you watch the completed auctions on eBay, only the raw & the 70's are selling. The 69's are not (at least when I checked). Even opened box raw are selling.
 

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Can't find the 2015 proof Plat on the US Mint web site. 2014 is still there saying sold out. Wonder what the deal is with 2015...
 

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2016 Platinum Proof coin scheduled to be out on June 30 . . . mintage limit 10,000.

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June 10, 2016 by Coin Update
http://news.coinupdate.com/mintage-limit-for-2016-platinum-proof-coin-set-at-10000-coins/

Michael White of the U.S. Mint’s Office of Corporate Communications has confirmed that the mintage limit for 2016 American Eagle One-Ounce Platinum Proof Coin has been set at 10,000 units, more than twice the limit established for last year’s issue, which was set at 4,000 coins. The final mintage for the 2015 Platinum Eagle came to 3,881 pieces.

Despite the fact that last year’s issue effectively sold out in 10 minutes, the significantly larger mintage awarded to the 2016 Platinum Eagle comes as a bit of a surprise. Production totals for coins in this series have consistently fallen in recent years, from 5,745 sold in 2013, to 4,596 sold in 2014, to 3,881 in 2015. The Mint also had difficulty procuring platinum planchets last year, which postponed the launch of the 2015 issue.
 

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50/50 chance of a first day sell out on the wings of last year's hype. Don't think we will see a huge aftermarket price spike due to the higher mintage limit. On the plus side platinum is a pretty cheap now.
 

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Mint news blog reporting the 2016 sold out in less than an hour.
Yeah I know. I was made aware of their existence around 11:45, jumped on and bought one at 12:01, bought a second one a few minutes later, tried for a third but the site got smart to me...

And then a few hours later, I get a cancellation email for the second one. No winning with this one.
 

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I talked to them today. They cancelled my second order. Different address. Son's name. Different credit card. Same billing address. Everything has to be different now.
 

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I talked to them today. They cancelled my second order. Different address. Son's name. Different credit card. Same billing address. Everything has to be different now.
Damn, I was thinking "shit, I should have used my parents address..." Nah, they would have caught it.
 

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Damn, I was thinking "shit, I should have used my parents address..." Nah, they would have caught it.
My method worked for the gold merc dimes. I will be changing one credit card so the billing address is different and also making it paperless so no bills get mailed as I pay online anyway.
 

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Sell out occurred because the dealers are paying people to buy. I know of at lest a couple of dealers who got 100-200+ orders. The create a market of scarcity then profit off the hype.
 

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US Mint sales reports show a few hundred have been returned.

2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 9,285 (7/31)
2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 9,287 (7/24)
2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 9,452 (7/17)
2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 9,618 (7/10)
2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ
9,810 (7/3)




 

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US Mint sales reports show a few hundred have been returned.

2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 9,285 (7/31)
2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 9,287 (7/24)
2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 9,452 (7/17)
2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 9,618 (7/10)
2016 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ
9,810 (7/3)



One would think the mint will want to put the remainder back on sale...
 

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One would think the mint will want to put the remainder back on sale...
The Mint website shows "currently unavailable" with a $1550 price tag.
(Price at release was $1350, if I remember correctly.)
Wonder how many they'd sell if they put the returns back up for grabs.
 

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I bet they would sell briskly, but not in the twinkle of an eye. The coins are costlier now and the 'Early Releases' designation has expired at the third party grading services, so it is likely dealers wouldn't be as aggressive. Still, it would be nice to give those who didn't have a crack at it initially the chance to buy direct from the mint.
 

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On any precious metal shortages for ANY reason :

First they deny it could ever happen, and scoff.

Then they admit it might happen, and mock.

Finally, they demand that it happen--and attack.
 

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Im quite sure the returns are grader rejects and flawed.
Not sure. The Mint gives someone seven days to make a return, generally too quick to send them off and get them graded first. It might be that some of them were rejects. The other thing might be orders that proved to not pass the mint's 'one order per customer' litmus test.
 

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Here are last week's numbers:

Precious Metal Products 17EJ 2017 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 8775 07/23/2017
Unlike the prior two years, the 2017 coin did not get a first-day sellout.

Personally, I think the price tag of $1,300 is very high given today's spot value of $925, which is at a 40% premium over spot, nearly twice the premium ratio for typical gold coins sold at the Mint.

I also took a quick look at raw coin sales of prior year issues on eBay, and they were not very impressive.
 

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Here are last week's numbers:



Unlike the prior two years, the 2017 coin did not get a first-day sellout.

Personally, I think the price tag of $1,300 is very high given today's spot value of $925, which is at a 40% premium over spot, nearly twice the premium ratio for typical gold coins sold at the Mint.

I also took a quick look at raw coin sales of prior year issues on eBay, and they were not very impressive.
$1300? Yesterday, MCM was selling them for 1199... and if you paid with a check or echeck option, and additional $35 off the top.

Either way, the design is identical to the 1997 proof, and all the business strikes, what's the big idea?
 

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$1300? Yesterday, MCM was selling them for 1199... and if you paid with a check or echeck option, and additional $35 off the top.

Either way, the design is identical to the 1997 proof, and all the business strikes, what's the big idea?
The Mint price is $1300. I did not see the "discounted" price at MCM, which I think is still too high.

Anyway, I agree that the coin is overpriced, and I have already moved on to look elsewhere for other coins.

See you next year!