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2018 Breast Cancer Awareness Coins

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Even if we consider the pink coins as a new variety, I do not believe this extra feature will translate to higher premium, in the long run. First of all, the Mint did not discount their issue price according to the reduction in gold content. Once collectors are informed of this important fact, secondary market premiums will naturally adjust themselves, and the feature-based premium will eventually fade away, like it did with the baseball coins.
I think most hard core stackers will steer clear of this coin. The majority of purchasers will be composed of diehard US Mint collectors and those that are attracted to the concept of the coin. Neither of these two groups will be overly put off by the lower gold content. Just my 2c.
 

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The Buffalo Silver Dollar still has one hell of a premium and there were lots of them made

This is a very comprehensive thread, and as far as what actually drives collectors, as a hobbyist I can only add opinion, much of it biased towards what and how I see things, what I collect, what I look for

for plenty of others, the beauty is in their eyes, and it is only under the control of how much money is in their pocket or available on their card

for the gamblers, the investors, there are winners and losers everywhere. trick is not to be a loser LOL

Like, for instance, pink gold coins

LOL

personally, i don't care about the 85% thing, I understand what it took to make it pink.
I'll end up getting one on the secondary market, graded MS70 (been thinking, maybe I'll get a proof of this coin, IDK) if only because there will be so many of 'em (I mean, come on, who doesn't want to support breasts), the price should remain reasonable (also partly because the markets are soft) and because it's the only one that's been issued by the mint (which should keep interest high)

Right now, that's unique, honestly unique

Here's another:
In 2013 Philadelphia Mint, the 5 Star General Commemorative Silver Dollar Proof strike was made with a New Polishing and Laser Frosting Technique

http://www.coinnews.net/2013/04/08/...rosting-technique-enhance-coins-us-mint-says/

they were a lower mintage also, I'd guess that fewer collectors connect with Generals from WWII much anymore, so the price stays down, again, markets are curiously soft, but it is what it is

US Commemorative Coinage, there's something in the lot, for everyone, no doubt

and
I think a good point to end with, no matter what you procure, trade, etc

Always keep a few, for yourself, of what you like, the one's that catch your eye :dog:
 

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Tomorrow's mintage numbers will help me determine whether I will order a 3rd set of 8 Clad coins--or perhaps throw a silver dollar or two into the mix.

If the mintage gap between the 2018 and 2017 coins widens, then I may decide to make the order. Otherwise, I will probably hold back.

If I do make a 3rd order, then there will be an extra $4.95 shipping cost attached to it, which I do not regret. For the 2nd order, at least I can say that I had the knowledge of the superior quality of the coins in the 1st order before making it--so I do not consider that shipping cost to be a waste.

As of today, the introductory price discount will end in a week, so tomorrow's sales report will be the last one before that time.
Last night I placed an order for 2 silver unc, 3 clad unc, and 2 clad proof coins.

Also, I am expecting the 2nd order to arrive sometime later today. I decided to go ahead with my 3rd order before looking at the coins, as I believe I already had enough data to be assured I made the right selections.

The silver unc will not be a new key, but it will be in the mix with 3 or 4 other issues in the 90s that ended in the 15k to 18k mintage range (the Boys Town silver unc ended at 12k), according to my projection.

Barring a big upset, both the clad unc and proof coins will be new keys.
 

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Last night I placed an order for 2 silver unc, 3 clad unc, and 2 clad proof coins.

Also, I am expecting the 2nd order to arrive sometime later today. I decided to go ahead with my 3rd order before looking at the coins, as I believe I already had enough data to be assured I made the right selections.

The silver unc will not be a new key, but it will be in the mix with 3 or 4 other issues in the 90s that ended in the 15k to 18k mintage range (the Boys Town silver unc ended at 12k), according to my projection.

Barring a big upset, both the clad unc and proof coins will be new keys.
The 2nd order of coins arrived today!

The quality of the coins in this order was as excellent as in the 1st order, but this time it came with no surprise.

For the sake of variety, I included 2 silver dollars in my 3rd order, which is being shipped now. I have my fingers crossed, hoping that the quality of the silver dollars will be on par with the clad half dollars.

One month ago, I would never have imagined the clad half dollars setting the example in quality for the other types of coins in the group!
 

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Introductory prices ended as of yesterday at 3 PM, and prices have increased by $5 across the board!

Here is today's sales report:

Commemoratives 18CE 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD PROOF 8692 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CF 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD UNC 3780 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CG 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER PROOF 25270 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CH 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER UNC 9671 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CJ 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD PROOF 14582 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CK 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD UNC 8955 04/15/2018
Now that introductory prices have ended, I do not plan to buy any more coins in this program from the Mint.

But it will still be interesting to see how the numbers move throughout the year.

A quick check on the Clad Unc shows that 547 coins were sold in the last week, a decently low number. Next week's numbers will reveal any weakening of sales due to ending the introductory discount.
 

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I think most hard core stackers will steer clear of this coin. The majority of purchasers will be composed of diehard US Mint collectors and those that are attracted to the concept of the coin. Neither of these two groups will be overly put off by the lower gold content. Just my 2c.
I'm not sure how strong this coin will be in the long term, with the relatively high mintage numbers for the first few weeks.

One thing is for sure, though, it is selling well on the secondary market at $575 on eBay, for MS70s. Two years back, National Park MS70s sold for $480 during the first few months, and this year's coin is beating it in secondary market price (compared to two years ago), even with a higher projected mintage.

The novelty aspect of the coin deserves some credit, for sure. It also gets a boost from the popularity of the breast cancer awareness cause, advertised to a broader market on eBay. Perhaps some first-time buyers are being introduced to commemorative coins or coin collecting in general by this coin.

Good thing the loss of the introductory discount resulted in only a $5 price increase. Whether I will buy one from the Mint, however, is another question...
 
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Sales numbers are in!

Commemoratives 18CE 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD PROOF 8864 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CF 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD UNC 3827 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CG 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER PROOF 25945 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CH 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER UNC 9941 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CJ 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD PROOF 14924 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CK 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD UNC 9158 04/22/2018
And last year's corresponding numbers...

Commemoratives 17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1260 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 1681 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CC 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 18276 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CD 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 8633 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CE 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 14460 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CF 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 13267 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CG 2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 4528 04/16/2017
This year's clad unc holds a lead of 4109 under last year's coin, an improvement from 2 weeks ago, when the margin was 3945 (unfortunately, the 2017 numbers corresponding to last week are absent from the records).

Meanwhile, the clad proof holds a lead of 4064 under last year's coin (counting last year's 3-coin set), which is a big improvement over the previous margin of 3473 counted 2 weeks ago.

The silver unc is trailing by 1308 over last year's coin. The trailing position of this coin may be helpful at the end of the year in discouraging excessive sales, assuming it holds throughout the year. If we trail by less than 1000 coins at the end, I would say the coin becomes a winner.
 

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After a few months of sitting back and waiting, here are the updated sales numbers, for 11/18/2018:

Commemoratives 18CE 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD PROOF 9994 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CF 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD UNC 4275 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CG 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER PROOF 32647 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CH 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER UNC 11782 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CJ 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD PROOF 17221 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CK 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD UNC 10365 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CL 2018 BREAST CANCER COIN & STAMP SET 4010 11/18/2018

I overlooked the existence of the Coin & Stamp set, which was released later in the year. Fortunately, its 4k sales only add to the proof coin, not the unc.

Here are the numbers for last year's Boys Town coins (without the one-week offset, as we are closer to the end of the year now):

Commemoratives 17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1466 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 2362 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CC 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 24433 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CD 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 10184 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CE 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 16690 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CF 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 14501 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CG 2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 5217 11/19/2017

The Breast Cancer clad unc is 4136 coins below last year's number, which is close to the situation back in April.

The Breast Cancer clad proof numbers, including the numbers from the Coin & Stamp Set, are 17221+4010 = 21231. Boys Town numbers, including the 3-Coin Set, are 16690+5217 = 21907. So the lead in key mintage has nearly vanished, but there is still a chance for it to become the new key.

By the way, I came into this catalog year with the understanding that I would not be buying any gold coins, so this gave me the extra funds to make my purchases back in April.

I will be spending my hobby time in the near future to ready my coins to submit for grading.
 

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The Boys Town and Breast Cancer silver proofs and uncs are available for less than issue price now. I would never consider submitting any for grading

For the Breast Cancer issues the extreme and unrealistic mintage limits (400,000) killed any interest....as is usually the case with most all commems
 

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The Boys Town and Breast Cancer silver proofs and uncs are available for less than issue price now. I would never consider submitting any for grading

For the Breast Cancer issues the extreme and unrealistic mintage limits (400,000) killed any interest....as is usually the case with most all commems
I agree that the Boys Town clad half is now selling low, but this may be due to the unpopularity of the Boys Town theme. In contrast, the National Park coins from 2016 still seem to have solid sales. I think the Breast Cancer theme is actually strong, but most of the sales dollars are concentrated on the gold coins.

I already paid my $150 NGC membership ($150 credit for submissions) about 6 months ago, so I am willing to give it a try. I think the combination of low sales and strong theme give the Breast Cancer coins better potential than the Boys Town (except for the gold coin).
 

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The Boys Town and Breast Cancer silver proofs and uncs are available for less than issue price now. I would never consider submitting any for grading

For the Breast Cancer issues the extreme and unrealistic mintage limits (400,000) killed any interest....as is usually the case with most all commems
Regarding the Boys Town silver unc specifically, I would have to disagree, as the coin will still be the key even after the Breast Cancer coins end.

You may be lucky in finding one below issue price, most are selling significantly above issue price, even at MS69, and the MS70s still fetch prices above $100.
 

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Obviously you can do whatever you desire....but....just by the number of sales of graded coins you can tell the interest in this commem.....not much

Low sales, if they sneak up on you (early sell out) or low maximum mintage, are a good thing. Low sales with a 400,000 mintage limit just says no interest

If you are a label person the time for Early/First Release is long gone so you will have either generic labels or pay five bucks more for the BCA label....

Save your "free" submissions for a product with a better chance of investment recovery...and submit them early

My opinion after many years of submissions.....

Good luck
 

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The first sales figures of 2019 are in for last year's Breast Cancer coins:

Commemoratives 18CE 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD PROOF 10389 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CF 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD UNC 4478 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CG 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER PROOF 34551 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CH 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER UNC 12520 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CJ 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD PROOF 17939 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CK 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD UNC 11302 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CL 2018 BREAST CANCER COIN & STAMP SET 4455 01/06/2019
At first glance, it appears that the clad unc half dollar is the new key by a margin of about 4k, and the clad proof is the new key by a slim margin (considering the numbers from the 2019 coin & stamp set and 2018 3-coin set).

The gold unc has very low numbers, although not compared to last year's Boys Town coin. If I had known the numbers would be this low, I probably would have bought one. But I am happy that the money went to the clad halves instead. I think I have a good chance of scoring some 70s with the ones I bought.
 

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the Silver Unc is #2 on the low mintage charts, #1 Boys Town Unc Dollar is lower by a few hundred coins

and both are 2k coins, approx, below the old #1 1996 Paraplegic Unc Silver Dollar
 

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I think the lack of interest in the 2017 Boys Town coins has more to do with the brand and theme than anything else.

The 2018 Breast Cancer coins, on the other hand, have made a solid start in eBay prices after the end-of-year mintage numbers were counted, although much of this depends on scoring 70s for grading.
 
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