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2018 Breast Cancer Awareness Coins

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Even if we consider the pink coins as a new variety, I do not believe this extra feature will translate to higher premium, in the long run. First of all, the Mint did not discount their issue price according to the reduction in gold content. Once collectors are informed of this important fact, secondary market premiums will naturally adjust themselves, and the feature-based premium will eventually fade away, like it did with the baseball coins.
I think most hard core stackers will steer clear of this coin. The majority of purchasers will be composed of diehard US Mint collectors and those that are attracted to the concept of the coin. Neither of these two groups will be overly put off by the lower gold content. Just my 2c.
 

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The Buffalo Silver Dollar still has one hell of a premium and there were lots of them made

This is a very comprehensive thread, and as far as what actually drives collectors, as a hobbyist I can only add opinion, much of it biased towards what and how I see things, what I collect, what I look for

for plenty of others, the beauty is in their eyes, and it is only under the control of how much money is in their pocket or available on their card

for the gamblers, the investors, there are winners and losers everywhere. trick is not to be a loser LOL

Like, for instance, pink gold coins

LOL

personally, i don't care about the 85% thing, I understand what it took to make it pink.
I'll end up getting one on the secondary market, graded MS70 (been thinking, maybe I'll get a proof of this coin, IDK) if only because there will be so many of 'em (I mean, come on, who doesn't want to support breasts), the price should remain reasonable (also partly because the markets are soft) and because it's the only one that's been issued by the mint (which should keep interest high)

Right now, that's unique, honestly unique

Here's another:
In 2013 Philadelphia Mint, the 5 Star General Commemorative Silver Dollar Proof strike was made with a New Polishing and Laser Frosting Technique

http://www.coinnews.net/2013/04/08/...rosting-technique-enhance-coins-us-mint-says/

they were a lower mintage also, I'd guess that fewer collectors connect with Generals from WWII much anymore, so the price stays down, again, markets are curiously soft, but it is what it is

US Commemorative Coinage, there's something in the lot, for everyone, no doubt

and
I think a good point to end with, no matter what you procure, trade, etc

Always keep a few, for yourself, of what you like, the one's that catch your eye :dog:
 

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Tomorrow's mintage numbers will help me determine whether I will order a 3rd set of 8 Clad coins--or perhaps throw a silver dollar or two into the mix.

If the mintage gap between the 2018 and 2017 coins widens, then I may decide to make the order. Otherwise, I will probably hold back.

If I do make a 3rd order, then there will be an extra $4.95 shipping cost attached to it, which I do not regret. For the 2nd order, at least I can say that I had the knowledge of the superior quality of the coins in the 1st order before making it--so I do not consider that shipping cost to be a waste.

As of today, the introductory price discount will end in a week, so tomorrow's sales report will be the last one before that time.
Last night I placed an order for 2 silver unc, 3 clad unc, and 2 clad proof coins.

Also, I am expecting the 2nd order to arrive sometime later today. I decided to go ahead with my 3rd order before looking at the coins, as I believe I already had enough data to be assured I made the right selections.

The silver unc will not be a new key, but it will be in the mix with 3 or 4 other issues in the 90s that ended in the 15k to 18k mintage range (the Boys Town silver unc ended at 12k), according to my projection.

Barring a big upset, both the clad unc and proof coins will be new keys.
 

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Last night I placed an order for 2 silver unc, 3 clad unc, and 2 clad proof coins.

Also, I am expecting the 2nd order to arrive sometime later today. I decided to go ahead with my 3rd order before looking at the coins, as I believe I already had enough data to be assured I made the right selections.

The silver unc will not be a new key, but it will be in the mix with 3 or 4 other issues in the 90s that ended in the 15k to 18k mintage range (the Boys Town silver unc ended at 12k), according to my projection.

Barring a big upset, both the clad unc and proof coins will be new keys.
The 2nd order of coins arrived today!

The quality of the coins in this order was as excellent as in the 1st order, but this time it came with no surprise.

For the sake of variety, I included 2 silver dollars in my 3rd order, which is being shipped now. I have my fingers crossed, hoping that the quality of the silver dollars will be on par with the clad half dollars.

One month ago, I would never have imagined the clad half dollars setting the example in quality for the other types of coins in the group!
 

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Introductory prices ended as of yesterday at 3 PM, and prices have increased by $5 across the board!

Here is today's sales report:

Commemoratives 18CE 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD PROOF 8692 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CF 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD UNC 3780 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CG 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER PROOF 25270 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CH 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER UNC 9671 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CJ 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD PROOF 14582 04/15/2018
Commemoratives 18CK 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD UNC 8955 04/15/2018
Now that introductory prices have ended, I do not plan to buy any more coins in this program from the Mint.

But it will still be interesting to see how the numbers move throughout the year.

A quick check on the Clad Unc shows that 547 coins were sold in the last week, a decently low number. Next week's numbers will reveal any weakening of sales due to ending the introductory discount.
 

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I think most hard core stackers will steer clear of this coin. The majority of purchasers will be composed of diehard US Mint collectors and those that are attracted to the concept of the coin. Neither of these two groups will be overly put off by the lower gold content. Just my 2c.
I'm not sure how strong this coin will be in the long term, with the relatively high mintage numbers for the first few weeks.

One thing is for sure, though, it is selling well on the secondary market at $575 on eBay, for MS70s. Two years back, National Park MS70s sold for $480 during the first few months, and this year's coin is beating it in secondary market price (compared to two years ago), even with a higher projected mintage.

The novelty aspect of the coin deserves some credit, for sure. It also gets a boost from the popularity of the breast cancer awareness cause, advertised to a broader market on eBay. Perhaps some first-time buyers are being introduced to commemorative coins or coin collecting in general by this coin.

Good thing the loss of the introductory discount resulted in only a $5 price increase. Whether I will buy one from the Mint, however, is another question...
 
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Sales numbers are in!

Commemoratives 18CE 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD PROOF 8864 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CF 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD UNC 3827 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CG 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER PROOF 25945 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CH 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER UNC 9941 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CJ 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD PROOF 14924 04/22/2018
Commemoratives 18CK 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD UNC 9158 04/22/2018
And last year's corresponding numbers...

Commemoratives 17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1260 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 1681 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CC 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 18276 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CD 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 8633 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CE 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 14460 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CF 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 13267 04/16/2017
Commemoratives 17CG 2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 4528 04/16/2017
This year's clad unc holds a lead of 4109 under last year's coin, an improvement from 2 weeks ago, when the margin was 3945 (unfortunately, the 2017 numbers corresponding to last week are absent from the records).

Meanwhile, the clad proof holds a lead of 4064 under last year's coin (counting last year's 3-coin set), which is a big improvement over the previous margin of 3473 counted 2 weeks ago.

The silver unc is trailing by 1308 over last year's coin. The trailing position of this coin may be helpful at the end of the year in discouraging excessive sales, assuming it holds throughout the year. If we trail by less than 1000 coins at the end, I would say the coin becomes a winner.
 

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After a few months of sitting back and waiting, here are the updated sales numbers, for 11/18/2018:

Commemoratives 18CE 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD PROOF 9994 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CF 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD UNC 4275 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CG 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER PROOF 32647 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CH 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER UNC 11782 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CJ 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD PROOF 17221 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CK 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD UNC 10365 11/18/2018
Commemoratives 18CL 2018 BREAST CANCER COIN & STAMP SET 4010 11/18/2018

I overlooked the existence of the Coin & Stamp set, which was released later in the year. Fortunately, its 4k sales only add to the proof coin, not the unc.

Here are the numbers for last year's Boys Town coins (without the one-week offset, as we are closer to the end of the year now):

Commemoratives 17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1466 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 2362 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CC 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 24433 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CD 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 10184 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CE 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 16690 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CF 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 14501 11/19/2017
Commemoratives 17CG 2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 5217 11/19/2017

The Breast Cancer clad unc is 4136 coins below last year's number, which is close to the situation back in April.

The Breast Cancer clad proof numbers, including the numbers from the Coin & Stamp Set, are 17221+4010 = 21231. Boys Town numbers, including the 3-Coin Set, are 16690+5217 = 21907. So the lead in key mintage has nearly vanished, but there is still a chance for it to become the new key.

By the way, I came into this catalog year with the understanding that I would not be buying any gold coins, so this gave me the extra funds to make my purchases back in April.

I will be spending my hobby time in the near future to ready my coins to submit for grading.
 

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The Boys Town and Breast Cancer silver proofs and uncs are available for less than issue price now. I would never consider submitting any for grading

For the Breast Cancer issues the extreme and unrealistic mintage limits (400,000) killed any interest....as is usually the case with most all commems
 

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The Boys Town and Breast Cancer silver proofs and uncs are available for less than issue price now. I would never consider submitting any for grading

For the Breast Cancer issues the extreme and unrealistic mintage limits (400,000) killed any interest....as is usually the case with most all commems
I agree that the Boys Town clad half is now selling low, but this may be due to the unpopularity of the Boys Town theme. In contrast, the National Park coins from 2016 still seem to have solid sales. I think the Breast Cancer theme is actually strong, but most of the sales dollars are concentrated on the gold coins.

I already paid my $150 NGC membership ($150 credit for submissions) about 6 months ago, so I am willing to give it a try. I think the combination of low sales and strong theme give the Breast Cancer coins better potential than the Boys Town (except for the gold coin).
 

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The Boys Town and Breast Cancer silver proofs and uncs are available for less than issue price now. I would never consider submitting any for grading

For the Breast Cancer issues the extreme and unrealistic mintage limits (400,000) killed any interest....as is usually the case with most all commems
Regarding the Boys Town silver unc specifically, I would have to disagree, as the coin will still be the key even after the Breast Cancer coins end.

You may be lucky in finding one below issue price, most are selling significantly above issue price, even at MS69, and the MS70s still fetch prices above $100.
 

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Obviously you can do whatever you desire....but....just by the number of sales of graded coins you can tell the interest in this commem.....not much

Low sales, if they sneak up on you (early sell out) or low maximum mintage, are a good thing. Low sales with a 400,000 mintage limit just says no interest

If you are a label person the time for Early/First Release is long gone so you will have either generic labels or pay five bucks more for the BCA label....

Save your "free" submissions for a product with a better chance of investment recovery...and submit them early

My opinion after many years of submissions.....

Good luck
 

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The first sales figures of 2019 are in for last year's Breast Cancer coins:

Commemoratives 18CE 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD PROOF 10389 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CF 2018 BREAST CANCER GOLD UNC 4478 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CG 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER PROOF 34551 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CH 2018 BREAST CANCER SILVER UNC 12520 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CJ 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD PROOF 17939 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CK 2018 BREAST CANCER CLAD UNC 11302 01/06/2019
Commemoratives 18CL 2018 BREAST CANCER COIN & STAMP SET 4455 01/06/2019
At first glance, it appears that the clad unc half dollar is the new key by a margin of about 4k, and the clad proof is the new key by a slim margin (considering the numbers from the 2019 coin & stamp set and 2018 3-coin set).

The gold unc has very low numbers, although not compared to last year's Boys Town coin. If I had known the numbers would be this low, I probably would have bought one. But I am happy that the money went to the clad halves instead. I think I have a good chance of scoring some 70s with the ones I bought.
 

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the Silver Unc is #2 on the low mintage charts, #1 Boys Town Unc Dollar is lower by a few hundred coins

and both are 2k coins, approx, below the old #1 1996 Paraplegic Unc Silver Dollar
 

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I think the lack of interest in the 2017 Boys Town coins has more to do with the brand and theme than anything else.

The 2018 Breast Cancer coins, on the other hand, have made a solid start in eBay prices after the end-of-year mintage numbers were counted, although much of this depends on scoring 70s for grading.
 
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I think the lack of interest in the 2017 Boys Town coins has more to do with the brand and theme than anything else.

The 2018 Breast Cancer coins, on the other hand, have made a solid start in eBay prices after the end-of-year mintage numbers were counted, although much of this depends on scoring 70s for grading.
Some of the 2018-D clad unc half dollars graded at MS-70 are selling in the $100's!

I spent a good amount of time looking through my 15 clad uncs to decide which ones I will be submitting. I am realizing that it is a skill that requires a sharp eye.

The 2018-S clad proof coins look like they are in better condition overall, at least in my opinion.

I will see how this submission goes and then decide what to do with my remaining clad unc and proof half dollars.
 

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Because of the extra cost some dealers are already charging for the Breast coins, why not look at the coin as a semi-key and consider that ALL the coins are valuable, not just the 70's?

Personally, I'm picking these Breast coins up as cheap as I can find them

Same thing with the key date but, because the key is selling for less, I'm buying these quicker

Give these coins a few years to 'spread out' amongst the collectors, and the retail price WILL move up to their 'true' valuation

It's a good time to be a collector
 

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Some of the 2018-D clad unc half dollars graded at MS-70 are selling in the $100's!

I spent a good amount of time looking through my 15 clad uncs to decide which ones I will be submitting. I am realizing that it is a skill that requires a sharp eye.
Use a good lighting source and a 5x loop.
 

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I want a testicular cancer coin. it doesn't have to be pink
 

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Some of the 2018-D clad unc half dollars graded at MS-70 are selling in the $100's!

I spent a good amount of time looking through my 15 clad uncs to decide which ones I will be submitting. I am realizing that it is a skill that requires a sharp eye.

The 2018-S clad proof coins look like they are in better condition overall, at least in my opinion.

I will see how this submission goes and then decide what to do with my remaining clad unc and proof half dollars.

My submission consisted of the following coins:

Boys Town 2017-P Silver $1
MS70, 3 coins

Breast Cancer 2018-P Silver $1
MS70, 1 coin

Breast Cancer 2018-D 50c
MS70, 4 coins
MS69, 1 coin

Breast Cancer 2018-S 50c
PF70, 3 coins

This is the ideal outcome! Now I just need to wait for the package to arrive.

I got 70s for 11 out of 12 coins, and the remaining 1 coin was graded 69, giving me a valuable measuring stick for future submissions.

The 2018-D MS70 is selling very high from $285 to $295, but only 2 coins were sold on eBay within the last 3 months. Although collectors are loath to buy the coin at this price, very few listings are offering this coin, giving sellers a reason to keep the price this high. If a few sellers start to list this coin at lower prices, it may bring the price down, but at the moment the coin is enjoying the key coin advantage.

The 2018-S PF70 is selling lower in the $80 to $100 range. It is the key of its series, but by a much smaller margin. Any gains in price will likely need to be hard fought over many sales.

The silver dollars of both years tell an entirely different story. Neither year has been able to crack $100 per coin at MS70.

I did not buy any gold coins in the Breast Cancer group directly from the Mint, but bought a slabbed one on eBay last week. I also have one Boys Town gold unc coin (along with 5 National Park gold unc coins) waiting to be sent in for grading.
 

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Wow! I remember old timers telling me that MS-69s were as rare as hens teeth. I remember when MS-70s in all categories could be counted on two hands. Now they are giving them out like candy! What's next? Tossing the Sheldon scale and going to a 100 point system so newbie collectors can't figure out what is what?
 

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Wow! I remember old timers telling me that MS-69s were as rare as hens teeth. I remember when MS-70s in all categories could be counted on two hands. Now they are giving them out like candy! What's next? Tossing the Sheldon scale and going to a 100 point system so newbie collectors can't figure out what is what?
Yes moderns are, for the most part, 69 and 70. Perfect and near perfect. Sheldon would be rolling around in his grave...
 

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In SILBUR!!!!!

 

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I was thinking more free flowing, touchy subject...i mean, I don't want to touch...uh...can I send in a plaster mold?
 

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My submission consisted of the following coins:

Boys Town 2017-P Silver $1
MS70, 3 coins

Breast Cancer 2018-P Silver $1
MS70, 1 coin

Breast Cancer 2018-D 50c
MS70, 4 coins
MS69, 1 coin

Breast Cancer 2018-S 50c
PF70, 3 coins

This is the ideal outcome! Now I just need to wait for the package to arrive.
The coins have arrived!

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A casual observer looking at the long list of MS70 grades in this submission may come to the conclusion that the grading services have grown too generous to this day, but a close inspection of these wonderful coins can only show that the 70 grades were well deserved.

I have wondered to myself why there is only currently one listing of the 2018-D clad half at MS70 on eBay, and it is becoming clearer and clearer that this is truly a rare coin indeed. The fact that my direct order from the Mint included so many good 70 candidates does not diminish this in the very least...

Now the priority is either to get the next submission ready or to begin testing the market with these excellent pieces!
 

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My submission consisted of the following coins:

The silver dollars of both years tell an entirely different story. Neither year has been able to crack $100 per coin at MS70.
Correction...the Boys Town MS70 silver dollar has made some good sales at $129 or higher in the last few months, rejecting the price drop to the $80 range it suffered for a while.

I believe this is a sign of recognition that is status as the key commemorative silver dollar is intact, at least for the near future.

The Breast Cancer MS70 silver dollar also has made a few sales above $100, though sales in the $70 to $80 range are still common.
 

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The Breast Cancer silver dollar also has the distinction of being the last 90% silver dollar minted at the Mint.
 

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The Breast Cancer silver dollar also has the distinction of being the last 90% silver dollar minted at the Mint.
The WWI Centennial silver dollars were also minted in 2018, but the Breast Cancer silver dollar wins the tiebreaker in being released at a later date.