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That isnt news. Any idiot could see that Republicans attacking Trump would be in serious trouble.
 

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https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2021/03/16/mi-court-michigan-secretary-of-states-absentee-ballot-order-broke-law-vindicating-trump-claim/

Entire ruling at link.

MI Court: Michigan Secretary of State’s Absentee Ballot Order Broke Law, Vindicating Trump Claim​

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Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson speaks at a news conference about election security and later-than-typical results being expected in the state's presidential primary next week on Thursday, March 5, 2020, at the Romney Building in Lansing, Mich. Benson said clerks will face challenges because it is the first major …
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KYLE OLSON16 Mar 2

A Michigan judge ruled last week Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson (D) broke state law when she unilaterally issued rules related to absentee balloting, legitimizing a key claim made by the Trump campaign in its legal challenges to the 2020 election.

Benson issued several unilateral orders during the 2020 election including sending absentee ballot applications to all registered voters. She also issued “guidance” on how to evaluate absentee ballots, a move Michigan Court of Claims Chief Judge Christopher Murray held violated the state’s Administrative Procedures Act.

In the guidance, Benson said “slight similarities” in signatures on absentee ballots should lead a counter to decide “in favor of finding that the voter’s signature was valid.”

Murray ruled Benson violated the law “because the guidance issued by the Secretary of State on October 6, 2020, with respect to signature matching standards was issued in violation of the Administrative Procedures Act (APA).”

“I’m glad the court sees Secretary of State Benson’s attempts at lawmaking for what they are — clear violations of her authority,” Michigan state Rep. Matt Hall (R) said in a statement.

“If she wants to make changes like these, she needs to work with the Legislature or properly promulgate them through the laws we have on the books — in this case the Administrative Procedures Act,” he continued.

Murray’s ruling came after Allegan County Clerk Bob Genetski sued Benson and state Director of Elections Jonathan Brater over Benson’s order which Hall described as a “mandatory directive requiring local election officials to apply a presumption of validity to all signatures on absent voter ballots.”

According to the suit, Genetski argued “the presumption contained in the guidance issued by defendant Benson will allow invalid votes to be counted,” but Genetski did not allege “that this guidance caused him to accept a signature that he believed was invalid.”

The court’s opinion concluded:
…nowhere in this state’s election law has the Legislature indicated that signatures are to be presumed valid, nor did the Legislature require that signatures are to be accepted so long as there are any redeeming qualities in the application or return envelope as compared with the signature on file. Policy determinations like the one at issue — which places the thumb on the scale in favor of a signature’s validity — should be made pursuant to properly promulgated rules under the APA or by the Legislature.
Like other progressive secretaries of state, Benson put an aggressive emphasis on voting by absentee ballot in the name of safety amid the Chinese coronavirus pandemic.
Over 3.1 million Michigan voters cast an absentee ballot out of a possible 7.7 million voters, WWMT News reported.
In May 2020, Benson used $4.5 million in funds from the CARES Act — the original coronavirus stimulus — to send absentee ballot applications to all voters, according to Breitbart News.
“By mailing applications, we have ensured that no Michigander has to choose between their health and their right to vote,” Benson said according to NBC 25.
“Voting by mail is easy, convenient, safe, and secure, and every voter in Michigan has the right to do it,” she continued.
Hall noted, “The Legislature is an equal branch of government charged with crafting laws. This is not the role of the Secretary of State, and there is a clear process that must be respected.”
Signature validation rules created without the approval of a legislature was one of the issues the Trump campaign and Republicans claimed was done illegally in the 2020 election.
Trump’s campaign and Republicans argued in cases nationwide that Article II of the Constitution requires state legislatures to make the rules governing presidential elections, and state election officials and courts lack the authority to change those rules.
Murray’s ruling undercuts the Democrat narrative that Republican legal challenges to 2020 election procedures were without merit and had therefore all been rejected by the courts. The original suit was filed October 6, 2020 — prior to the presidential election — but was not decided until March 9, 2021.
The case is Genetski v. Benson, No. 20-216-MM in the Court of Claims for the State of Michigan.
Kyle Olson is a reporter for Breitbart News. He is also host of “The Kyle Olson Show,” syndicated on Michigan radio stations on Saturdays — download full podcast episodes. Follow him on Parler.
 

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https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2021/03/16/mi-court-michigan-secretary-of-states-absentee-ballot-order-broke-law-vindicating-trump-claim/

Entire ruling at link.

MI Court: Michigan Secretary of State’s Absentee Ballot Order Broke Law, Vindicating Trump Claim​

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Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson speaks at a news conference about election security and later-than-typical results being expected in the state's presidential primary next week on Thursday, March 5, 2020, at the Romney Building in Lansing, Mich. Benson said clerks will face challenges because it is the first major …'s presidential primary next week on Thursday, March 5, 2020, at the Romney Building in Lansing, Mich. Benson said clerks will face challenges because it is the first major …
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KYLE OLSON16 Mar 2

A Michigan judge ruled last week Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson (D) broke state law when she unilaterally issued rules related to absentee balloting, legitimizing a key claim made by the Trump campaign in its legal challenges to the 2020 election.

Benson issued several unilateral orders during the 2020 election including sending absentee ballot applications to all registered voters. She also issued “guidance” on how to evaluate absentee ballots, a move Michigan Court of Claims Chief Judge Christopher Murray held violated the state’s Administrative Procedures Act.

In the guidance, Benson said “slight similarities” in signatures on absentee ballots should lead a counter to decide “in favor of finding that the voter’s signature was valid.”

Murray ruled Benson violated the law “because the guidance issued by the Secretary of State on October 6, 2020, with respect to signature matching standards was issued in violation of the Administrative Procedures Act (APA).”

“I’m glad the court sees Secretary of State Benson’s attempts at lawmaking for what they are — clear violations of her authority,” Michigan state Rep. Matt Hall (R) said in a statement.

“If she wants to make changes like these, she needs to work with the Legislature or properly promulgate them through the laws we have on the books — in this case the Administrative Procedures Act,” he continued.

Murray’s ruling came after Allegan County Clerk Bob Genetski sued Benson and state Director of Elections Jonathan Brater over Benson’s order which Hall described as a “mandatory directive requiring local election officials to apply a presumption of validity to all signatures on absent voter ballots.”

According to the suit, Genetski argued “the presumption contained in the guidance issued by defendant Benson will allow invalid votes to be counted,” but Genetski did not allege “that this guidance caused him to accept a signature that he believed was invalid.”

The court’s opinion concluded:
…nowhere in this state’s election law has the Legislature indicated that signatures are to be presumed valid, nor did the Legislature require that signatures are to be accepted so long as there are any redeeming qualities in the application or return envelope as compared with the signature on file. Policy determinations like the one at issue — which places the thumb on the scale in favor of a signature’s validity — should be made pursuant to properly promulgated rules under the APA or by the Legislature.
Like other progressive secretaries of state, Benson put an aggressive emphasis on voting by absentee ballot in the name of safety amid the Chinese coronavirus pandemic.
Over 3.1 million Michigan voters cast an absentee ballot out of a possible 7.7 million voters, WWMT News reported.
In May 2020, Benson used $4.5 million in funds from the CARES Act — the original coronavirus stimulus — to send absentee ballot applications to all voters, according to Breitbart News.
“By mailing applications, we have ensured that no Michigander has to choose between their health and their right to vote,” Benson said according to NBC 25.
“Voting by mail is easy, convenient, safe, and secure, and every voter in Michigan has the right to do it,” she continued.
Hall noted, “The Legislature is an equal branch of government charged with crafting laws. This is not the role of the Secretary of State, and there is a clear process that must be respected.”
Signature validation rules created without the approval of a legislature was one of the issues the Trump campaign and Republicans claimed was done illegally in the 2020 election.
Trump’s campaign and Republicans argued in cases nationwide that Article II of the Constitution requires state legislatures to make the rules governing presidential elections, and state election officials and courts lack the authority to change those rules.
Murray’s ruling undercuts the Democrat narrative that Republican legal challenges to 2020 election procedures were without merit and had therefore all been rejected by the courts. The original suit was filed October 6, 2020 — prior to the presidential election — but was not decided until March 9, 2021.
The case is Genetski v. Benson, No. 20-216-MM in the Court of Claims for the State of Michigan.
Kyle Olson is a reporter for Breitbart News. He is also host of “The Kyle Olson Show,” syndicated on Michigan radio stations on Saturdays — download full podcast episodes. Follow him on Parler.
Much too little and much too late. Besides, the SCOTUS refuses to get involved so how important is all this stolen election crap anyway?
 

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Much too little and much too late. Besides, the SCOTUS refuses to get involved so how important is all this stolen election crap anyway?

Worst yet is that there is little to no penalty to her other than saying Sorry! You certainly know the idiots in Lansing are not going to impeach her over this.
 

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Worst yet is that there is little to no penalty to her other than saying Sorry! You certainly know the idiots in Lansing are not going to impeach her over this.
I'm sure she'll get a stern talking to and will be told not to do that again!
 

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Lots of voices talking a lot

A US presidential election was stolen right out from under our noses on Nov 6 2020 and we're still here March 16 2021 all butt hurt and still talking about it.


well by gawd we will vote them out of office next election!........

with senate elections in 2022 , candidates are already jockeying for position with new ads and campaign stumping

they are all acting like it is business as usual

my question is , who the fvck is going to vote in ANY future elections until the mess from this last election is cleaned up?

not me shaggy
 

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well by gawd we will vote them out of office next election!........

with senate elections in 2022 , candidates are already jockeying for position with new ads and campaign stumping

they are all acting like it is business as usual

my question is , who the fvck is going to vote in ANY future elections until the mess from this last election is cleaned up?

not me shaggy
At the risk of repeating myself...

If voting mattered it would already be banned.

Elections are only required to give the illusion the people choose their leaders...we don't!

signed
An ex voter
 

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I'm sure she'll get a stern talking to and will be told not to do that again!

Don't forget, those poor saps in Michigan get to pay her legal fees and God forbid a slap on the wrist fine. Good work if you can get it (and have zero morality).
 

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An interesting development aye?

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Of course it will never make it into reality!
 
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Found this on GAB FWIW

Rodney Tilk

80 million people did not vote for Joe Biden. If they did, Democrats would be screaming that number at every public appearance.

It has been documented factually by Sidney Powell in the lawsuits that every federal court refused to hear that Trump had over 103 million actual ballots cast for him, while Biden had 38 million actual ballots cast. Many of Biden’s were harvested by people who went to low income neighborhoods and paid cash in exchange for mail-in-ballots (numerous undercover videos documenting this tactic). Many other of those 38 million were multiple voters who used dead people’s names to vote multiple times; this is a coordinated, funded, organized tactic where Democrat organizations compile dead voter lists year round and pay cash to low income people to use names from the lists to vote in multiple precincts.

In addition to all these tactics, the Dominion machines used in 30+ states used three more mechanisms to steal MASSIVE numbers of votes:

1.) Electronic tablets counted votes for Trump as 0.75 of a vote (these numbers are forensically proven and documented), and every Biden vote as 1.25 votes.

2.) Paper ballot counting machines that scan the ballots changed the vote total during each scan, according to a preset margin of 55% for Biden and 45% for Trump. (These numbers were statistically proven in multiple counties in Wisconsin, and confirmed with an audit) It didn’t matter what the ballot marks were, those totals were produced by the machines in real time.

3.) Paper Ballot scanning machines were pre-programmed to “mis-interpret” massive numbers of ballots (60+%) which are then sent to be “cured”; this curing could be done in batches by an election supervisor (what’s the statistical chance that a government employee is a small gov conservative..? Maybe 10%?).

Lastly, another tactic used by the election officials in many precincts was to simply flips the reported numbers from Trump to Biden. So if the margin was 78% Trump, 22% Biden, they simply flipped it when they reported it. (They were caught several times doing this, and fell back on the “clerical error” excuse)
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Democrats needed to pull every trick in the book to get more votes for Biden, and they STILL failed by 2am on Nov 4th.. They had to resort to printing and filling out millions of ballots overnight in order to generate late-night ballot dumps to get Biden over Trump in 6 key states.
They had to board up windows, kick out poll watchers, ship ballots across state lines, pull out suitcases previously hidden under tables, shred the evidence after the election was over, assassinate the boyfriend of a governor’s daughter, and use every platform and media outlet they own to silence the truth and hide the evidence from view.

Then they had to threaten, bribe, and cajole EVERY SINGLE politician and judge in America for 3 months in order to drag Biden’s dementia’d ass over the Jan 6th finish line in order to steal back America from We The People.

DON’T THINK FOR ONE SECOND THAT STUPID AMERICANS VOTED FOR BIDEN.
... W.E. D.I.D. N.O.T.
 

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March 22, 2021​

Emails: Green Bay’s ‘hidden’ election networks​

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MADISON — A former Democratic operative intricately involved in Green Bay’s November election was given access to “hidden” identifiers for the internet network at the hotel convention center where ballots were counted, according to new emails obtained by Wisconsin Spotlight.

Green Bay city officials insist the presidential election was “administered exclusively by City staff.” But the emails show Michael Spitzer-Rubenstein, Wisconsin State lead for the National Vote at Home Institute, had a troubling amount of contact with election administration.
“I’ll have my team create two separate SSID’s for you,” Trent Jameson, director of Event Technology at Green Bay’s Hyatt Regency and KI Convention Center, where the city Central Count was located on Election Day, wrote to Spitzer-Rubenstein.

SSID stands for Service Set Identifier. It’s an internet network’s name. Open up the list of Wi-FI networks on your laptop or phone, the list of SSIDs will pop up. Wireless router or access points broadcast SSIDs so nearby devices can find and display any available networks.
SSID hiding keeps the network name from being publicly broadcast. The SSID won’t immediately pop up in the display, although the network name remains available for use.

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“One SSID will be hidden and it’s: 2020vote. There will be no password or splash page for this one and it should only be used for the sensitive machines that need to be connected to the internet,” Jameson wrote in his Oct. 27 email to Spitzer-Rubenstein. He in turn forwarded the email to Celestine Jeffreys, Mayor Eric Genrich’s chief of staff, on Oct. 30.

Also on the email were, Amaad Rivera-Wagner, the mayor’s community liaison; Jaime Fuge, Green Bay’s chief election inspector at the time; Shelby Edlebeck, multimedia communications specialist; and Mike Hronek, the city’s Information Technology Services administrator.

“The other SSID will be: gbvote and that one can be seen in the settings app of your phone or laptop under ‘networks’ and should be used for the poll workers who need internet,” Jameson wrote.

Jameson told Spitzer-Rubenstein there would be a third SSID, which was to be used by media or other guests “not part of your team.”

Why would a guy who has been described as a consultant or adviser to the city need to have hidden SSIDs? Why would the city want him to have knowledge of Service Set Identifers for “sensitive machines”? He was brought in to provide technical support, but why would Spitzer-Rubenstein receive such sensitive information before the city’s IT director and the clerk’s office?

Genrich, Green Bay’s mayor, did not return Wisconsin Spotlight’s call seeking comment.

As Wisconsin Spotlight first reported, Spitzer-Rubenstein and his National Vote at Home Institute were heavily involved in Green Bay’s election process.

The National Vote at Home Institute, was one of several private, left-leaning groups, funded largely by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. Spitzer-Rubenstein, with an impressive political resume working for Democratic politicians and campaigns, had significant influence over the administration of the presidential election in Green Bay and, it appears, in Milwaukee. The Chicago-based Center for Tech and Civic Life received hundreds of millions of dollars in funding from Zuckerberg and his wife, money they pumped out in big grants to to cities in the name of “safe elections.”

Spitzer-Rubenstein appears to have played point man for the coordinated effort between the “Wisconsin 5,” Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Kenosha and Racine — which received a combined $6.3 million in Zuckerberg money.

Emails show Spitzer-Rubenstein offered to correct or “cure” ballots in Green Bay, and he told the city’s clerk that he had come up with a similar process for Milwaukee.

And despite the city’s assertions that Spitzer-Rubenstein did not have the keys to the KI Center where the absentee ballots were, a hotel contract obtained by Wisconsin Spotlight shows the keys were to be delivered to Spitzer-Rubenstein.

“Michael Spitzer-Rubenstein will be the onsite contact for the group,” the hotel instructions state.

Emails show him inside the KI Center asking city officials about where the ballots would be located.

“Are the ballots going to be in trays/boxes within the bin? I’m at KI now, trying to figure out whether we’ll need to move the bins throughout the day or if we can just stick them along the wall and use trays or something similar to move the ballots between stations,” Spitzer-Rubenstein wrote to city officials two days before the election.

There’s much more.

Sandy Juno, former Brown County clerk who has accused the city of Green Bay of going “rogue” in its handling of the election, said she found the use of the secretive internet access points “unusual.” Spitzer-Rubenstein is shown in photos working on a laptop by a printer at central count on election night.

“I’m not sure what the need was for all of those different (Service Set) IDs, but the one that bothered me most was for the ‘sensitive machines,’ Juno said.
 

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Just heard jim jordan ramble & avoid really answering any questions for 40 minutes. He's talking about winning in 22 months. Many told him point blank he don't have 22 months.......
 

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Just heard jim jordan ramble & avoid really answering any questions for 40 minutes. He's talking about winning in 22 months. Many told him point blank he don't have 22 months.......

Do you have a link to the video?
 

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In person!

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Dems crazy. Trump running in 2024. He thinks they can hold them off for 22 months and people laughed in his face. Handler oversaw the crowd & wrapped it up as he was talking not answering.

I asked why communists were not hanging from lap posts. Told him if gold and silver was what our founding fathers said was money way are we using fiat and will they cancel us all when they go digital.

He seems to think the first amendment is under attack. Called jomentia prez and got boos.

Didn't want to go back and talk about the stolen election just how things are changing going forward. Defense does not score points. Very little support overall support really.
 
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Old dementia Joe is supposed to hold a “live” press conference in about an hour

There is always the possibility that he might say just about anything so it may be fun to tune in.

My guess is it will all be a show , everything was rehearsed , even the questions.
 

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Dems crazy. Trump running in 2024. He thinks they can hold them off for 22 months and people laughed in his face. Handler oversaw the crowd & wrapped it up as he was talking not answering.

I asked why communists were not hanging from lap posts. Told him if gold and silver was what our founding fathers said was money way are we using fiat and will they cancel us all when they go digital.

He seems to think the first amendment is under attack. Called jomentia prez and got boos.

Didn't want to go back and talk about the stolen election just how things are changing going forward. Defense does not score points. Very little support overall support really.
Trump had his shot, I don't want to see another 4 years of impeachment and Russia hearings. The Dems will do the same thing they did last time, deflect, distract and delay; I'm done with all that!
 

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why does it look like their putting frosting on a dead horse and going to serve it up as cake

Historic?

historic, history, historic again,

and audit? historic audit? - like something from the past?

i'm calling BS right now
 

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All this crap is so 2020

We've moved forward with vaccine genocide and building up our girly man population tolerance

Get with the program folks and stop living in the past
 

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I wonder which unlucky Arizona forensic audit team member will meet an untimely demise in a freak accident. We all know that the fraudsters will do it as a warning to the others. They have way too much to lose.

One state proves widespread fraud, that will set off a whole constitutional crisis and force the other contested states to hold a complete and fair audit. Right now, I hear Maricopa county is still fighting the audit. It is time for the AZ legislature to take back all the powers they delegated to the counties. Will they? Probably not. I fear this is just another exercise in political kabuki theatre.
 

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https://twitter.com/VoterGa/status/1377988227483774976?s=20
 

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Pat Byrne Telegram rp:

$160 Billion Class Action Lawsuit AGAINST Dominion Voting Systems

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Dominion Voting Systems has violated our civil rights! If you are a registered voter, you can join the $160 Billion Class Action Lawsuit against Dominion, Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, Elected Officials, and others. This is the largest civil rights class action lawsuit in history and the first of its kind!



Join the Lawsuit ➡️ https://DominionClassAction.com/



Watch the Video ▶️ https://youtu.be/GP1ZQ54MDco



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Pat Byrne Telegram rp:

$160 Billion Class Action Lawsuit AGAINST Dominion Voting Systems

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Dominion Voting Systems has violated our civil rights! If you are a registered voter, you can join the $160 Billion Class Action Lawsuit against Dominion, Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, Elected Officials, and others. This is the largest civil rights class action lawsuit in history and the first of its kind!



Join the Lawsuit ➡️ https://DominionClassAction.com/



Watch the Video ▶️ https://youtu.be/GP1ZQ54MDco



Read the Article ➡️ https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-you-can-join-the-160-billion-class-action-lawsuit-against-dominion-zuckerberg-facebook-elected-officials-others-first-of-its-kind/

I am very wary of any class action lawsuit that asks for a donation. I understand the need but it is a highly unusual move.
 

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They need to increase the penalty for election fraud. You get caught, found guilty, 10 years in the pen no question asked, do not pass Go.
 

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They need to increase the penalty for election fraud. You get caught, found guilty, 10 years in the pen no question asked, do not pass Go.

Public stoning by all registered voters is more appropriate.
 

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They need to increase the penalty for election fraud. You get caught, found guilty, 10 years in the pen no question asked, do not pass Go.
The penalty for treason/election fraud used to be hanging. We need to get back to that and the cheating will stop in a heartbeat