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80% bone loss in gums. Anyway to fix this?

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I would recommend taking a look at this book and the work of Weston A. Price and Hal Huggins. I spoke with Hal Huggins a few times before he died. This is not junk science, it is the real deal. Although, I'm not sure how much it would help with bone loss.

https://www.amazon.com/Cure-Tooth-Decay-Cavities-Nutrition/dp/1434810607

I have looked into this quite a bit and can comment more later.

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My last dentist I stopped seeing because he required I have x-rays every 2 years. I wonder why? I told him I don't do radiation unless it is necessary. He told me that was required of his patients, so I said goodbye.
Mine lets me opt out.
 

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I am always amazed at the advice given about how bad Drs and Dentists are and that the Monday morning QBs have alternative answers that basically upend the dental and medical profession, yet they never market this magically knowledge in our capitalist society that would surely make them rich beyond their wildest dreams if in fact their sage wisdom was a cure all panacea.
Most dentists are bound under their license to push the exact agenda given by the ADA. There are lots of dentists that are suffering from mercury poisoning and their offices do not pass OSHA regs, but they are not allowed to personally state to patients what they believe the dangers of mercury are. So, if someone did come up with the cure all, they would not be allowed to speak about it. Also, when you get into the alternative answers, you will find that they require lifestyle changes that would not be profitable for anybody but the patient.

Most of the Weston A Price dentists in this country are 100% gagged. They are unable to discuss a proposed treatment plan with their patients based on their ethics, for fear of loosing their license. Some of them inevitably do and others will only follow treatment plans based on printed literature, but only if the patient requests it.

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Another thing worth a try is oil pulling. Put a tablespoon of organic coconut oil in your mouth, let it melt, then swish through your teeth for 20 minutes ( no longer). Spit it out in the trash or outside, not in the sink as it will gum the works up, and do not swallow it as it absorbs toxins from your gums.

I have a friend with tooth/gum problems that have been totally cleared up by doing this once a day. Her hygienist couldn’t figure out why she no longer had any plaque ( she was going four times a year because it was so bad). I’ve done it some, but it is on my New Years list to do daily.
 

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Most dentists are bound under their license to push the exact agenda given by the ADA. There are lots of dentists that are suffering from mercury poisoning and their offices do not pass OSHA regs, but they are not allowed to personally state to patients what they believe the dangers of mercury are.
Again...I have not had a Hg filling in years. All ceramic. How is it my dentists are not using amalgam fillings if the ADA agenda is telling them they have to use them. And my dentist has removed the amalgam filling I had and stated his reasoning and concerns.
 

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Want a sure fire way to prevent cavities?? Don't drink acidic drinks like pop (ph 3 to 4.5) and to some degree coffee which run at a pH of about 5 to 6.0. Enamel begins to errode at pH 5.5
 

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My dentist of about 5 years had a discussion about fillings. He somewhat defended the old school method. However, he has only done ceramic in my mouth as the decades old fillings wear out. He says now 'they don't last as long as the old stuff, but they look better and it is a good idea to err on the side of caution". Exactly.

Doctor, Dentist, Chiropractor, Auto Mechanic, they all see problems with you when they need money.
We have to be informed consumers and know when to say no.
There is a dealership in the area that I and many other people will say has the friendliest, well dressed and groomed staff anywhere.
It is shocking how wholesome they are.
Of course, they rob the customer blind on services and parts.
 

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Again...I have not had a Hg filling in years. All ceramic. How is it my dentists are not using amalgam fillings if the ADA agenda is telling them they have to use them. And my dentist has removed the amalgam filling I had and stated his reasoning and concerns.

I hit up my dentist on this question 20 + years ago. He gave me some cock & bull story but I was not having any issues except kidney stone Hx and I like the guy.
I first noticed when I had a amalgam crack years ago ( i loved chewing ice) he replaced it with ceramic saying it was much harder than amalgams. All my kids have only CERAMICS.*
Out of eight amalgam fillings I had since my youth I'm down to two. All others have been replaced, due to coming loose or cracking, by ceramics.

My kidney stone issues have dropped off the charts, no issues in years.

* - Original Post I typed "amalgams" which is wrong.
 
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Again...I have not had a Hg filling in years. All ceramic. How is it my dentists are not using amalgam fillings if the ADA agenda is telling them they have to use them. And my dentist has removed the amalgam filling I had and stated his reasoning and concerns.
It's about liability. Most dentists do not push mercury anymore, but the official stance of the ADA is not that mercury is toxic, but that they have found better options. If they were to admit it was toxic, you would see lawsuits like for asbestos. Because they don't admit it, there is no legal evidence that can be presented by experts in a court of law, unless those "experts" happen to be tin hat conspiracy theorists.

This is what the ADA does not want to discuss... the smoking tooth.


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Not relevant to the OP, but surprised that no one has mentioned Silver Diamond Flouride. Weston Price the dentist talked about it in his classic book Nutrition and Human Degeneration like 80 years ago, and it has been commonly used in Japan for 20 years.

You paint it onto the cavity, and it kills the bacteria and bonds with the cavity. No novocaine, no drilling, no more cavity. You can do it yourself. Dentists don’t like it at all.

It does leave a black spot where the cavity is, but hardly worse than an amalgam filling. Certainly it should be used exclusively for children on baby teeth since they will soon be replaced. Think of all the pain and money wasted on drill and fill. My daughter has no cavities at 6, and her dentist doesn’t do this treatment, so if she gets a cavity we'll be saying goodbye.
 

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I have known about Xylitol and the dental health benefits for a while, however, the only stuff I saw for use was chewing gum, and the brands I knew of had too little Xylitol to be effective. Recently Karl Dennigger wrote about it, he is using pure Xylitol you can buy in bulk, cheap, for dental hygiene and has seen gum improvement.

I went on the hunt, and most dental pastes are expensive, and many do not tell you the Xylitol percentage, what type Xylitol, etc. Then I found this brand, called Tooth Builder, made by Squigle. First off, it is made from Birch Trees, all others I found either didn't tell you or stated made from corn, and most of that is made in China, something I am trying to avoid. Next is percent of Xylitol, this brand has 36%, they claim the highest out there, certainly higher than any other I could find, generally 25% or less, or not stated. No fluoride, another thing I want. They have a fluoridated product as well. I bought two tubes and intend to find out if it makes a difference in my gums. I am hoping yes. It has no flavor, very neutral taste when brushing, no problem. Best effect is if you let it "linger" in the mouth it seems, I am still working that out. Right now I rinse, add a little to the brush, and spread it around. Some people just buy the bulk raw Xylitol and put it on the brush like that, then put a pinch in the mouth to be asorbed. Do not swallow, not poison but could cause some stomache upset. Deadly to dogs, so don't brush your dog's teeth with it.
Here is the site, browse around if you are interested, the lists of ingredients etc are all on there. So far so good for me. I will report back when I have or don't have results.

http://www.squigle.com/productscompared.html


Here is a link to the Karl Denigger article, I would repost but I don't think he likes that.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232930
 

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Doctor, Dentist, Chiropractor, Auto Mechanic, they all see problems with you when they need money.
We have to be informed consumers and know when to say no.
There is a dealership in the area that I and many other people will say has the friendliest, well dressed and groomed staff anywhere.
It is shocking how wholesome they are.
Of course, they rob the customer blind on services and parts.
Now there is TRUTH if I ever read it !!!!!!!!

Just 3 days ago, my "new dentist" (my regular dentist is my fishing buddy, he moved to Portland, wifey did not like a little town, he won't be set up until July) wants me to change a 30 year old crown only because he thinks it should be the same metal as the opposing crown. One to be replaced is stainless steel, gold overlay, other is standard gold crown. I smell $$$$$$$, not honest dentistry !
 

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Now there is TRUTH if I ever read it !!!!!!!!

Just 3 days ago, my "new dentist" (my regular dentist is my fishing buddy, he moved to Portland, wifey did not like a little town, he won't be set up until July) wants me to change a 30 year old crown only because he thinks it should be the same metal as the opposing crown. One to be replaced is stainless steel, gold overlay, other is standard gold crown. I smell $$$$$$$, not honest dentistry !
Sounds about right, don't let him change it unless you start having issues.

I even think they sometimes are the cause of issues, I'm talking about the dentists not the crowns. They get you in for cleanings, start using their jack hammers on your teeth, anything can happen. :mining:
 

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I dont drink city water and I put two large filters on the icemaker liine
We have extremely clean well water, no filtering. The only thing between us & that well water, is the pump & the pressure tank.
We even take our water with us when we travel, if we run out, we buy distilled water.