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A mega-drought is hammering the US; In North Dakota, it’s worse than the Dust Bowl

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A mega-drought is hammering the US; In North Dakota, it’s worse than the Dust Bowl​

Oct 8, 2021
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Joey and Scott Bailey are sitting in their kitchen trying to figure out how they’ll get through these next few months.
Just your grass hay that we would spend $30 a bale on, people are spending $150 a bale, and they’re driving 250 miles to get it,” Scott says.
The Baileys own a ranch on the remote prairie about 60 miles south of the US-Canada border, in the heart of what locals boast is the capitol of North Dakota cattle country, McHenry County. The county is also one of the most drought plagued places in the nation, where comparisons are now being drawn to the Dust Bowl.
Ranchers here have been forced to sell off their herds at historic rates and are now worried they won’t have enough feed to keep their remaining cows alive this winter.
The Baileys sold twenty cows a few months back, because they couldn’t afford to keep them fed. It’s been so dry that they couldn’t grow much of their own hay.
We didn’t have any rain last fall, and we had a super warm winter,” Joey says. “When we don’t get snow in North Dakota, that hurts us a lot in the spring ’cause we need the snow to make it grow right away in the Spring.
The historic drought has put a serious strain on forage, which are the plants animals graze on. So that means hay and feed are at a premium.
You’re fighting with your neighbor, your friend, the guy down the road ’cause there’s only so much feed out there,” Scott says. “It’s extremely stressful.

Why you can’t doomsday it​

Just like in every other bad drought cycle though – the Dust Bowl, 1988 – ranchers here are trying as much as they can to look at this crisis philosophically.
A few miles east along US Highway 2, on his family’s farm outside Towner, James Green says you just have to keep going; adapt and survive.
Drought is a fact of life here, and it always comes in punishing cycles.
Honestly, I’m gonna plan for next Spring to be like a normal Spring,” Green says. “If you doomsday it, you’re just gonna be doomsdaying the rest of your life.
The drought is so bad, it revealed 130 year old North Dakota shipwreck:

Green is adapting by making hay bales out of failed crops ruined by drought. For now, he figures the plan makes more sense than that drive of 250 miles or more for expensive hay. But it also requires extensive testing for nitrates to ensure the feed isn’t contaminated from fertilizers left over from farming.
As he drilled into a large bale to retrieve some samples to send to a lab, Green stood in a field of mostly brown stubble, an endless blue sky with puffy white clouds above him.
I’ve never seen a June or July as hot as we had it, literally these plants would get four to five inches tall, and they’d burn off,” he said.
A closer look revealed some little shoots of green grass poking through though. It did rain some here last month. “Life saving rains,” locals called them. They weren’t drought busters, but it was enough to make Green’s 72 year old mom, Gwen smile.
If we can get a month of grazing here [now] that’s a godsend,” she says.
It’s also been a godsend having Gwen Green’s sons around to keep the farm going. Her husband passed away last year. She says they’re doing what they’ve always done, getting creative, finding that unconventional feed. She also got some grant money to buy new, more efficient watering systems, and they’re exploring other mitigation measures.
But this drought also feels different…
This is much worse than anything I’ve been through in 44 years out here,” Gwen says. “James asked me one day, ‘What would dad do?’ I said, ‘Dad hasn’t seen anything this worse either.’
You have to keep on doing what you’re doing, they say, otherwise you’ll get depressed and you won’t make it.

North Dakota is an epicenter of the climate crisis​

Still, the long term outlook for agriculture in North Dakota is a difficult one, according to climate scientists.
The state, infamous for its brutal winters, is already a place of extremes. State climatologist Adnan Akyuz, a professor at North Dakota State University, says the effects of climate change could be even more pronounced here compared to other states that are closer to the oceans. Along Highway 2, there is a roadside marker denoting the geographical center of North America.
North Dakota is nearly two and a half degrees warmer than it was a century ago, and the erratic swings in weather are becoming more frequent.
I would say it is the epicenter,” Akyus says. “With a 2.4 degree Fahrenheit per century rise it is one of the highest in the nation.
Akyuz points out that just back in 2019, the state experienced its wettest year on record, only to be followed by 2021’s historic drought and heat waves.

Yet, climate change doesn’t come up that much in North Dakota’s ag community, where producers point to the weather having always fluctuated in dramatic cycles. If you’re a farmer or rancher, it may also be hard to think about coping or planning for a future of even more extremes when you’re just trying to figure out how to stay in business the next few months.
The community skews older, too. The average age of a producer in North Dakota is 56.
“Ranchers and farmers are innovative in themselves, but they’re not looking twenty years out because they’ll be 70, they’re thinking about transition planning,” says Rachel Wald, an agriculture extension specialist with North Dakota State University in McHenry County.
The recent rains did lift some spirits, Wald says, even though the forecast is showing little signs of a reprieve through winter.
If you know any rancher or farmer, staying on the optimistic side is going to help out,” she says, “because having a down outlook on everything, it’s hard on you after awhile.
Even if this does turn out to be just another bad drought cycle, it will take ranchers years to recover. Selling off even just a few cows is a huge deal when you’ve spent years – and in some cases, decades – carefully building up quality genetics in your herd.
Just imagine if you had a job for 20 years and now you had to go to another job and your benefit package ain’t as attractive, your pay scale ain’t as good,” says Darryl Lies, president of the North Dakota Farm Bureau.
Lies says even if ranchers last through this winter and start buying cows back, there’s no guarantee they’ll get the same quality they had and they may end up having to pay a lot more depending on the market.

Money is being drained from the Prairie​

Ranchers have already sold off close to 25% more cattle than last year, according to figures from the North Dakota Stockmen’s Association.
Drive across the state, and it’s an all too familiar scene of trailers lined up outside auction barns, anxious cows mooing as they’re unloaded into pens.

One auction barn in Rugby, North Dakota, reported a ten-fold increase in sales this past summer. In Devil’s Lake, the Lake Region Livestock barn has seen roughly double the volume at its weekly sales.
One recent morning, men clutching whips herded a drove of black Anguses into a chute, opening a huge metal door. The cattle, white tags clipped to their ears, were then funneled into a fenced pen with a sawdust floor. The auctioneer shouted out prices to a small crowd of bidders in the bleachers.
It is a short term boon for sale barns, but no one is celebrating.
In the back office, Lake View’s owner, Jim Ziegler, sighs as he swats flies off a desk cluttered with paper and receipts. He worries many of his older customers won’t be back next year.
The cost is just prohibitive. The guys are talking about hay costing a hundred dollars a bale,” Ziegler says. “That isn’t something you do if you have a large cow herd.
Ziegler opened this barn in 1988, the last truly comparable drought year. In those days, ranches tended to be smaller, he says, and people could figure a way through. Now, it just costs too much to keep a big operation going.
People just did not get in a position where they felt comfortable going into winter,” Ziegler says. “There’s gonna be more and more of that. There’s gonna be more decisions that have to be made here as we go through the next thirty days.
Indeed, make or break decisions, with the prospect of yet another dry winter looming. [NPR]
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Once the author mention "Climate Change" I stopped right there.
This is a political ploy to get sheeple on board over Climate Change. Looking at that map there are places in more distress than North Dakota.
The Left want us to believe the faux-science of WuFlu yet ignore the true science that Climate Change is a cycle and not man-made.
Plus winter is coming snow will be on the ground.
And I bet since Big Gov paid for the map there are more objective versions probably indicating less distress for the exact same areas.
I know NASA tweaks it Climate Maps to indicate higher levels of drought than areas actually report.
Suspicious0bservers.com every so often shows NASA Mapping compared to actual ground report maps. NASA has a flair for the dramatic too.
 

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Once the author mention "Climate Change" I stopped right there.
This is a political ploy to get sheeple on board over Climate Change. Looking at that map there are places in more distress than North Dakota.
The Left want us to believe the faux-science of WuFlu yet ignore the true science that Climate Change is a cycle and not man-made.
Plus winter is coming snow will be on the ground.
And I bet since Big Gov paid for the map there are more objective versions probably indicating less distress for the exact same areas.
I know NASA tweaks it Climate Maps to indicate higher levels of drought than areas actually report.
Suspicious0bservers.com every so often shows NASA Mapping compared to actual ground report maps. NASA has a flair for the dramatic too.
I should have known the article was just more global warming scam propaganda, i also quit reading at that point.
 

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Hahahahahahah, I live in the "D4 EXCEPTIONAL DROUGHT" section of Orygun AND WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF RAIN . Sunday we are expecting 1-3 inches of snow !!

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That map sure looks like the Fukushima radiation is leaking east huh?
 

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If the arabs can make it rain, so can we.
 

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That map sure looks like the Fukushima radiation is leaking east huh?
Far more radiation on the ground we walk on due to military testing of nuclear and hydrogen bomb testing worldwide than what now leaks from Fukushima:
 
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I should have known the article was just more global warming scam propaganda, i also quit reading at that point.
These agitators and propagandists rely on the limited experience and memory of most people.

How many of them were alive in the Dust Bowl years? The old lady in that piece had been there...wait for it...FORTY-FOUR YEARS. Since 1977. Gee, that's a long time, ain't it? A real sampling of the variables that can happen in weather.

I remember 1977...I was a kid, working for a small village DPW, in New York's Southern Tier. We had TWO cold, snowy winters, 1976-77 and 1977-78. This after a decade where there was scarcely any snow; and New York ski resorts were bankrupted (reopened with new owners when cold winters returned).

That's not a great sample. A hundred years is not a great sample - more representative, but scarcely. They can SAY it's worse than the Dust Bowl, but where's the comparison? What weather stations did they have in then-unsettled North Dakota?

Was the Dust Bowl the worst? What was the year 1685 like, in the Western North American landscape? We don't KNOW.

We do know that weather is always variable, and there's always some new extreme to be seen in any person's lifestyle.

1816 was called The Year Without a Summer. Snow hit upstate New York on July 4. One farmer went out for a hunting trip...barefoot, as was the fashion...and got caught in the snowstorm and nearly froze to death that night.

IT HAPPENS. It will continue to happen, no matter how much/many Carbon Credits Algore trades and makes commissions off of.
 

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just a fyi guys,

it was posted so you could see some of the supply issues buried in the article,
the cost of hay, the selling off herds, etc

this is going to affect the food supply chain for sure, and it fits right in with their narrative of what they are trying to achieve and have been warning of

and for the record, it is oct here in the north country, and still warm as August with no first frost
 

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If the arabs can make it rain, so can we.

And if the globalists can create draught by seeding the clouds, it perfectly aligns with thier goals for this country...
 

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just a fyi guys,

it was posted so you could see some of the supply issues buried in the article,
the cost of hay, the selling off herds, etc

this is going to affect the food supply chain for sure, and it fits right in with their narrative of what they are trying to achieve and have been warning of

and for the record, it is oct here in the north country, and still warm as August with no first frost
It has happened before when milk was so over produced farmers were dumping milk in big troughs and burying it. Even .gov did not want to make Gov Cheeze with it.
There is Beef and Hogs but farmers are being low-balled for the livestock, withholding that livestock as Meat Producers get record high profits claiming hiring and logistics issues.
All man-made artificial interruptions. AKA the Leftist at work.
 

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Here in AZ, for years the pundits have been crying Chicken Little about the "unpresented historic drought."

Well, this summer's monsoon season was the wettest in history. By far.

The weather is cyclical. It comes and goes, regardless of how much "the experts" bitch and moan about Global Warming.
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Isn't the solution for ranchers to sell meat directly to consumers? Set up with a butcher and get er done. Cut the communists out of the loop.
There's logistics problems with that - ranchers don't live/work in populated areas. Also regulatory issues. Those, are what they are...selling foodstuffs involves myriad permits and inspections and licenses.

And caring for the prepared meat, and keeping things clean and complying with licensing requirements, would be a full-time job. Down the road from me is a smallish beef-jerky company, which processes their own product and has a company outlet on the property. Going there, you see they have a full store staff and manager. They basically own a small grocery store.

Most ranchers don't want that.
 

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Isn't the solution for ranchers to sell meat directly to consumers? Set up with a butcher and get er done. Cut the communists out of the loop.
It would for local economies, what is considerably smaller than any regional supply effort or national concern.
Hahahahahahah, I live in the "D4 EXCEPTIONAL DROUGHT" section of Orygun AND WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF RAIN . Sunday we are expecting 1-3 inches of snow !!

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I did not like his condescending tone of voice !
And in the '70's it was claimed that we were heading into AN ICE AGE !!! It was hinted again in the 90's !!!

This is what we are seeing for short term.
We have a saying in Orygun
"If you don't like the weather, wait an hour, it will change"

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I did not like his condescending tone of voice !
And in the '70's it was claimed that we were heading into AN ICE AGE !!! It was hinted again in the 90's !!!

This is what we are seeing for short term.
We have a saying in Orygun
"If you don't like the weather, wait an hour, it will change"
People have short memories; and "activists" who get all panicky about such things, tend to be young.

Remember being young? I do, kinda. From age, say, 12, to 25, everything was new. The oil shortages of the 1970s were new. Nixon's corruption (mild as it was by comparison today) was new. The crushing 1978-1983 recession was something new. Not to my parents, who lived through the Great Depression...but to me, it was.

Likewise here. You remember temperature variations and you have read even beyond your lifespan. The kids do not and have not.

And the aim here is to lay out a crisis (the ongoing fake Glow Bull Warming crisis) and USE it to grow government power.

And the kids, just having gone through two years of what really IS unprecedented government abuse...don't see the connection. That, too, is part of being young - which is why the wisdom of our generations is so important.

And why it's so tragic that we're now marginalized.
 

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Their minds are still putty & the government is forming them.
This is also why you will not be accepted by the military after a certain age (I have forgotten the actual age) because they want you COMPLIANT !!!
 

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People have short memories; and "activists" who get all panicky about such things, tend to be young.

Remember being young? I do, kinda. From age, say, 12, to 25, everything was new. The oil shortages of the 1970s were new. Nixon's corruption (mild as it was by comparison today) was new. The crushing 1978-1983 recession was something new. Not to my parents, who lived through the Great Depression...but to me, it was.

Likewise here. You remember temperature variations and you have read even beyond your lifespan. The kids do not and have not.

And the aim here is to lay out a crisis (the ongoing fake Glow Bull Warming crisis) and USE it to grow government power.

And the kids, just having gone through two years of what really IS unprecedented government abuse...don't see the connection. That, too, is part of being young - which is why the wisdom of our generations is so important.

And why it's so tragic that we're now marginalized.
My first experience with faux-science was Weather Forecasters in the 60s. Two big snows hit OHIO and "We are heading back into another Ice Age" became the weather mantra. Along with don't eat the snow the Soviets set off another Hydrogen Bomb BS.
 

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My first experience with faux-science was Weather Forecasters in the 60s. Two big snows hit OHIO and "We are heading back into another Ice Age" became the weather mantra. Along with don't eat the snow the Soviets set off another Hydrogen Bomb BS.
I remember those years...winter of 1964-65, was it? It was a little over a year since we'd moved from Metro NYC to Cleveland, and we were on the West Side - the Secondary Snow Belt.

My old man spent some of his childhood in Cleveland, but didn't remember weather that bad. Fifteen years earlier, living in rural Indiana (his first job was in Whiting) he had bought a Gravely Tractor to handle lawn and gardening. He still had it.

He was tearing all over Ohio and Pennsylvania trying to get a snowblower attachment. And, sadly, that was about the time Studebaker bought Gravely and abandoned Gravely's quality commitment. The snowblower wasn't very good, even though we had it up until 2000.

But I remember those snows...up to my armpits, which were about four feet off the ground. To me, it was fun, after no snow in Newark where we lived. My parents were not so much amused.

Little did we know, five years later we'd go through about eight years of just light dustings of snow in winter. Weather, it turns out, runs in cycles...warm cycles, cold cycles, yada yada...
 

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just a fyi guys,

it was posted so you could see some of the supply issues buried in the article,
the cost of hay, the selling off herds, etc

this is going to affect the food supply chain for sure, and it fits right in with their narrative of what they are trying to achieve and have been warning of

and for the record, it is oct here in the north country, and still warm as August with no first frost
MN. Just finished up an after hours service call for humidity issues in October. That’s a first for me. We are still running cooling calls full boar.
 

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You flat landers are about to cool off. It might snow here tonight. Granted, my elevation is 4900’ but, summer died last night. This is the second time in fifteen years of living here that I’ve seen the leaves change. The frost usually gets them first.
 

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dearest KKKommiefornia.................................I have water. 10 skins per gallon.

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Far north my lilac bush never bloomed this year due to not enough sun. It’s snowed here three times already. We got the cold, wet weather.
But, in ‘Wet’ Washington, the evergreen trees scorched this summer.

I talked to two diff groups yesterday which both mentioned coming food shortages so the narrative is spreading.
One expects the marijuana farmers to turn into edible [nutritious] farmers
 

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Hahahahahahah, I live in the "D4 EXCEPTIONAL DROUGHT" section of Orygun AND WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF RAIN . Sunday we are expecting 1-3 inches of snow !!

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It takes a bit to replenish the water table, lakes, ponds, streams, etc. and a couple inches of rain/snow isn't going to do it after a prolonged drought.

I remember seeing one of these monitor charts about a decade ago - it showed a "multi-decadal" drought over GA....then ONE slow moving tropical storm went by and it took it from D4 to D0 within a couple of weeks. Notice nothing in the SE that indicates drought - we have had so much rain down here that towns are literally flooding weekly.
 

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You flat landers are about to cool off. It might snow here tonight. Granted, my elevation is 4900’ but, summer died last night. This is the second time in fifteen years of living here that I’ve seen the leaves change. The frost usually gets them first.
Variations in local weather patterns, plus fear-porn by the mediuh.

I see on ZeroHedge, a linked story telling us all that "The Western United States" will get a walloping winter-storm this week...snow measured in feet. They mention Billings, which I'm about 250 miles from.

Meantime, our local weather forecast is predicting cool-but-dry weather all week. Highs in the forties the first part of the week, then into the 60s later. Exactly normal. We haven't had a first hard freeze yet - and we're due.

This, at 3600 feet. The first snow almost always happens in the third week of October, here. If we do get a little snow, it'll be a few days ahead of normal.
 

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It takes a bit to replenish the water table, lakes, ponds, streams, etc. and a couple inches of rain/snow isn't going to do it after a prolonged drought.

We get between 60 & 72 inches of rain each year and this year it's starting early.
Our spring fed pond has not dropped an inch !
The stream in our front yard has been flowing no different than in past years.


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Obviously this is before the fire, but this is the normal flow of our creek & it is the same today.

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fyi,

starting to harvest around here,
crops are coming about normal as we had somewhat timely rains, even if it wasn't that much of it

but as stated, rain doesn't equal 'all bettah now'

water table/lakes/rivers are a whole different thing and do take time and multiple occurrences to reestablish
and our rivers are low,
minimal rains since last spring (over a year ago), low snow pack, then low rain totals this year again,
 

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Far north my lilac bush never bloomed this year due to not enough sun. It’s snowed here three times already. We got the cold, wet weather.
But, in ‘Wet’ Washington, the evergreen trees scorched this summer.

I talked to two diff groups yesterday which both mentioned coming food shortages so the narrative is spreading.
One expects the marijuana farmers to turn into edible [nutritious] farmers
hemp seed is a super food...excellent amino acid profile and ideal ratio of omega-3 to omega-6. More easily digestible than other grains.
Plus it grows like a weed!
 

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hemp seed is a super food...excellent amino acid profile and ideal ratio of omega-3 to omega-6. More easily digestible than other grains.
Plus it grows like a weed!
AND it is great on a salad !!! :2 thumbs up: :finished: :finished:
 

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damn man, look at the size of those trees,
serious good stuff there
 

Tbonz

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We get between 60 & 72 inches of rain each year and this year it's starting early.
Our spring fed pond has not dropped an inch !
The stream in our front yard has been flowing no different than in past years.


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Obviously this is before the fire, but this is the normal flow of our creek & it is the same today.

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Taez, you have an amazing attitude. I know you've been hit hard, but you keep bouncing back. I wish that America's youth could get an injection of you spirit in will, it would give me hope for our future.

Heck, I'd even be willing to come out to your neck of woods next summer and pitch in on helping you rebuild. I know enough to be dangerous, but I swore I wouldn't set foot in California again until they had a real conservative as governor.
 

TAEZZAR

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Thanks Tbonz, you, shootie, Newmisty & a couple of others are giving me a bit too much bravado !:beer:
WTF does someone do, other than what we, Mrs. T & I, are doing ?:don't know:
Hey, why wait until summer? AND we are 135 miles above commiefornia !!!:2 thumbs up: