cnbc was kvetching on a long segment this morning -- somebody needs to do something -- ring fence -- sec -- circuit breaker -- track down all trades and their message board postings
trying to frame people talking on redditt about stock trading is illegal - amazing
the wrong (people) are losing money
cnbc was kvetching on a long segment this morning -- somebody needs to do something -- ring fence -- sec -- circuit breaker -- track down all trades and their message board postings
trying to frame people talking on redditt about stock trading is illegal - amazing
the wrong (people) are losing money
Someone needs to explain to them that interventionism is not the answer. Interventionism is how we ended up with the broken markets that we're seeing in the first place. Stop all the "help" and just let the markets be free.
just sold BGS. there screwing with that one too. Bought it for the divi but could not pass up the profit.
ha ha! ameritrade is banning trades in those stocks
the empire strikes back
What the hell is going on?
It must be nice to be a "market maker" and be one of the "chosen" that are allowed to counterfeit shares.Game Stop had something like 140% of its float short. That means more people had shorted shares of stock than there was stock that existed. This was because it was a good short candidate and a lot of people shorted. However the way shorting works is you borrow shares and sell them, then in the future (hopefully after price has fallen) you buy the shares back to return them to who you borrowed them from. So more shares were shorted than existed, and one day they need to be bought back. When the stock started rising shorts started getting forced out of their position.... that causes them to buy. That buying pushes the stock up more which forces more shorts out and they have to buy too, which pushes the stock up more... lather, rinse, repeat.
People are now looking for other stocks with > 100% of their float short in order to buy so shorts are forced out and the stock goes up in a squeeze.
Game Stop had something like 140% of its float short.
You know that ex-CEO of overstock is having fun watching this. After all those years of the market makers and talking heads saying naked shorts don't really exist/happen. While he was arguing naked shorts were trying to kill his company.
ha ha! ameritrade is banning trades in those stocks
the empire strikes back
the wrong (people) are losing money
Free markets...my ass. What are those "other factors"? TBTF protected class speculators getting reamed without lube?We made these decisions out of an abundance of caution amid unprecedented market conditions and other factors."
lol, they have decided they will not let the mundanes coordinate or discuss their purchases any longer? color me completely unsurprised.
- Nasdaq CEO Adena Friedman told CNBC the exchange tracks social media chatter.
- She said the Nasdaq will halt trading if they link chatter to unusual activity in a particular stock.
- Friedman said it's unclear whether recent Reddit activity would be considered illegal by the SEC.
Some hedge funds were shorting GameStop to the tune of 140% . Charles Pain of Fox Business was giving these fund managers the blues today. He says hedge fund operators were crying for the regulators to get involved. Where were their cries when THEY were shorting Exxon ?, BoA ? and many others to the detriment of seniors and their retirement accounts ? LMFAOcnbc was kvetching on a long segment this morning -- somebody needs to do something -- ring fence -- sec -- circuit breaker -- track down all trades and their message board postings
trying to frame people talking on redditt about stock trading is illegal - amazing
the wrong (people) are losing money
SHUSH, BF don't give them F'n' techno-brats any ideas.If you can ban the prez from S/M, no reason ya can't do the same thing for any reason.
no censorship in USSA.
BF
IIRC, when somebody first posted about it here on GIM it was closer to 200% shorted. Blatant rigging.
The first point is that as soon as you take margin you have agreed to lend anything you buy to short sellers, this is in almost every margin lending agreement.
Sooooo... actually it can happen without rigging. I lend my stock to be sold short, it gets sold, short seller owes me stock, the new owner of the stock lends it to be short sold, it gets sold, short seller owes him stock ---> loop, loop, loop etc.
Unlike fractional reserve banking there is no reserve held so the short sold stocks can loop forever and in theory you can build up many times the stocks float in short sellers that owe stock to lenders. The game works while the stock is going down, when it starts going up the fact that there are more shares sold short than there are to be bought turns the whole thing into a financial powder keg.
That's a regular short but the US market is so broken they've allowed naked shorting for a long time.
Yes, I know... but aside from that this can still happen.
+ they don't allow it, but you can game the system to naked short. You need to be setup properly to do it aka at least two brokers acting in concert. Then you will see them on the regsho lists from time to time.
https://www.nyse.com/regulation/threshold-securities
Interestingly MicroSectors Gold Miners 3x Leveraged ETN is on the RegSho list, some one is naked short selling it!
Now the DS is using it to crash the market and burst the stock market bubble and watch the people turn to the government to ride in on its shiny white horse and save the day once again. Humans never learn from history. We're always doomed to repeat it because we're THAT FUCKING STUPID!It's been a game to naked short companies to oblivion. Yet the shorters Never cover, because then they don't even pay taxes on the trade. They just leave the companies as a zombie. This is how they destroyed Overstock and Patrick Bryne in 2008ish. And probably so many companies we could never compile a list.