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Aircraft carrier sent to Middle East after indications Iran planned attack on US forces

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Aircraft carrier sent to Middle East after indications Iran planned attack on US forces
May 5, 2019, 11:38 PM ET


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Aircraft carrier to Middle East after indications Iran planned attack on US forces

The United States is deploying an aircraft carrier strike group and a bomber task force to the Middle East on short notice in response to "clear indications" Iran and Iranian proxies were planning an attack on U.S. forces in the region, a U.S. official said.


Late Sunday night, the White House made a surprise announcement that the USS Abraham Lincoln and a bomber task force were being deployed in response to unspecified "troubling and escalatory indications and warnings."

A statement from National Security Adviser John Bolton said the deployments were intended "to send a clear and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on United States interests or on those of our allies will be met with unrelenting force."

"The United States is not seeking war with the Iranian regime, but we are fully prepared to respond to any attack, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or regular Iranian forces," the statement continued.

(MORE: New concerns Trump administration may be laying legal groundwork for military action against Iran)
A U.S. official told ABC News the deployments were in response to "clear indications" Iranian and Iranian proxy forces were preparing for a possible attack, and that the decision to send forces was made on Sunday.

"The movement of the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln to the region was expedited, and it was ordered there effective immediately," said the official.

The carrier is currently in the Mediterranean after leaving Norfolk, Virginia, on April 1. The Navy no longer provides destinations for its carrier deployments, but the carrier likely would have had to transit through the Middle East toward its new home port of San Diego at the end of its deployment.


The aircraft carrier USS John Stennis operated in the Persian Gulf twice during its recent deployment, for three weeks earlier this year and a week in early April.

"It’s something we’ve been working on for a little while," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told reporters traveling with him to Europe. "It is absolutely the case that we have seen escalatory actions from the Iranians, and it is equally the case that we will hold the Iranians accountable for attacks on American interests."

Pompeo did not provide specifics on Iran's potential actions, but said Iran "should understand about how we will respond to actions they may take" and that for any actions by related third-parties or proxies "we will hold the Iranian leadership directly accountable for that."
 

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Nothing good for Americans would come from a war on Iran.
More money for the MIC and more police state laws and more people that have reasons to hate us.

Some people are cheering for it to happen. Smh.
 

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More money for the MIC and more police state laws and more people that have reasons to hate us.

Some people are cheering for it to happen. Smh.
Like that would be the end of it and Iran would just take their whoopin'?

Nothing good for Americans would come from a war on Iran.
Sad.
 

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Is this the same Iran that cries death to America. Israel had almost 700 missiles shot at them this last weekend. Supplied by Iran probably. The Iran that wants to destroy big and little Satan. Israel has a right to exist. Iran pushing for nuclear weapons and will definitely use them on Israel and America if they get them.
 

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Is this the same Iran that cries death to America. Israel had almost 700 missiles shot at them this last weekend. Supplied by Iran probably. The Iran that wants to destroy big and little Satan. Israel has a right to exist. Iran pushing for nuclear weapons and will definitely use them on Israel and America if they get them.
You've got the narrative down pat.
 

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If America cannot be allied with Israel - a tiny yet thriving democracy encompassed by a horde of 500 million muslims - many of whom are openly hostile and belligerent towards Israel...then what are we doing?

I mean really. Either we stand up for the principles that define America...or we cower in the corner when the going gets tough.

People in Israel are FREE...including the Arabs that live in their midst. Muslims living in Israel are free to practice their religion, fully participate in society and some have even been elected to the Knesset.

Israel has private property rights, a strong judiciary, free and open elections, gun rights and a whole host of other rights that patriotic Americans work to defend right here at home.

Israel has been threatened and attacked non-stop since the moment of its founding - a founding that was facilitated by the United Nations no less...

And yet - Israel is consistently demonized and its supporters cast as pawns, clowns, warmongers, etc...

Those that oppose Israel stand on the wrong side of history...
 

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If America cannot be allied with Israel - a tiny yet thriving democracy encompassed by a horde of 500 million muslims - many of whom are openly hostile and belligerent towards Israel...then what are we doing?

I mean really. Either we stand up for the principles that define America...or we cower in the corner when the going gets tough.

People in Israel are FREE...including the Arabs that live in their midst. Muslims living in Israel are free to practice their religion, fully participate in society and some have even been elected to the Knesset.

Israel has private property rights, a strong judiciary, free and open elections, gun rights and a whole host of other rights that patriotic Americans work to defend right here at home.

Israel has been threatened and attacked non-stop since the moment of its founding - a founding that was facilitated by the United Nations no less...

And yet - Israel is consistently demonized and its supporters cast as pawns, clowns, warmongers, etc...

Those that oppose Israel stand on the wrong side of history...
Yikes, we're fucked if this is the mainstream narrative.

Israel is a democracy, Israel is threatened, Israeli has private property rights (no ownership of land, all land is state land, leases only), yada, yada - absolute cluelessness.
 

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If America cannot be allied with Israel - a tiny yet thriving democracy encompassed by a horde of 500 million muslims - many of whom are openly hostile and belligerent towards Israel...then what are we doing?

I mean really. Either we stand up for the principles that define America...or we cower in the corner when the going gets tough.

People in Israel are FREE...including the Arabs that live in their midst. Muslims living in Israel are free to practice their religion, fully participate in society and some have even been elected to the Knesset.

Israel has private property rights, a strong judiciary, free and open elections, gun rights and a whole host of other rights that patriotic Americans work to defend right here at home.

Israel has been threatened and attacked non-stop since the moment of its founding - a founding that was facilitated by the United Nations no less...

And yet - Israel is consistently demonized and its supporters cast as pawns, clowns, warmongers, etc...

Those that oppose Israel stand on the wrong side of history...
You're really piling on the sugar coating here, don't you think? It's strange that, if we were to have a frank and open discussion about Israel, we would need to take it out of the public eye and into a members private forum so the website isn't attacked by those very same people who are 'consistently being demonized'!

You reap what you sow in this world and the Israelis are reaping more and more of what they've sown in the past!
 

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If America cannot be allied with Israel - a tiny yet thriving democracy encompassed by a horde of 500 million muslims - many of whom are openly hostile and belligerent towards Israel...then what are we doing?

I mean really. Either we stand up for the principles that define America...or we cower in the corner when the going gets tough.

People in Israel are FREE...including the Arabs that live in their midst. Muslims living in Israel are free to practice their religion, fully participate in society and some have even been elected to the Knesset.

Israel has private property rights, a strong judiciary, free and open elections, gun rights and a whole host of other rights that patriotic Americans work to defend right here at home.

Israel has been threatened and attacked non-stop since the moment of its founding - a founding that was facilitated by the United Nations no less...

And yet - Israel is consistently demonized and its supporters cast as pawns, clowns, warmongers, etc...

Those that oppose Israel stand on the wrong side of history...
What does that have to do with American taxpayers and the American military?
 

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Not going to get into bashing anyone but truth be told we have our own probs to worry about.

-Health care
-Social Security
-Affordable housing
-Infrastructure

Just used the above as a few examples. The list could go on and on. But for some reason our elected ones seem to prefer looking out for certain other nation's interests. Not a good thing. Hopefully one day things will change.

In the meantime:

Netanyahu Calls For New Golan Settlement Named For Trump

It's a beautiful day in the city. Gonna hook up with a lady friend for a few cocktails. Y'all have a great day.
 
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Like that would be the end of it and Iran would just take their whoopin'?

Nothing good for Americans would come from a war on Iran.
We have been programmed through years and years of military intervention in the mideast that we (America) can easily control any conflict there.


This guy presents a case that war with Iran might not be the cake walk we all assume it would be.

I don't give much credence to 'visions', but this guy sure pegs the 'typical American response to war' as right on.

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... truth be told we have our own probs to worry about.
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We've spent so much money on foreign entanglements over the last 40 years , that if we had spent that money on ourselves we would have solved all those problems 5 times over by now.

War is the opposite of MAGA but it will provide more money to those handling the MIC's business and a boost to nationalistic movements. Trump may likely benefit from that. Bush sealed the deal for his second term that way.
 

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Those that oppose Israel stand on the wrong side of history...
How many times have we heard that?

Those who stood on the north side of Nam were also on the wrong side of history. So what did we do about it?

We sent to their death 50,000 young brave Americans. Along with helping out in the murder of over a million civilians in the region. Can you tell me what good came out of that which makes those lives lost worth it?

What good has come out of Iraq? More oil for western corps?

What good has come out of Afghanistan? The return of the Opium business for criminal mafias?

Those that think Israel is in such danger should start a mercenary team and volunteer for the IDF using their own money.

... armchair generals fighting long distance wars with other people's money and the blood of those less fortunate.

The axis of evil is right here at home. Bush needed a mirror when he coined that phrase as he's one of them.
 
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Israel is trying to enslave the Palestinians, just like to Spartans did to the Helot...Helots. The helots (/ˈhɛləts, ˈhiːləts/; Ancient Greek: εἵλωτες, heílotes) were a subjugated population group that formed the main population of Laconia and Messenia, the territory controlled by Sparta. ... Tied to the land, they primarily worked in agriculture as a majority and economically supported the Spartan citizens. That is Israel game plan as they murder Palestinians and steal their land. As for Iran, we are intent on stealing their oil, they should aim their missiles at their neighbors oil fields to ensure destruction and Trump can explain $10/gallon gas. Those of you into history should read up on how the Spartans treated their slaves.
 

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Project for the New American Century~"We have no choice but to re-instill in our foes and friends the fear that attaches to any great power. ... Only a war against Saddam Hussein will decisively restore the awe that protects American interests abroad and citizens at home". (1997)

This is the Washington think tank in the late 20th century that laid out the American Policy of regime changes in the Mideast for the past twenty years. It was determined way back then that without a strong military presence in the Mideast America could soon loose its' dominance over the world.

Basically, we have a strong military backing a fiat currency that happens to be the world's reserve currency. We have no gold. Our manufacturing has been outsourced, our farmers are going bankrupt, much of our infrastructure is rotted and obsolete.

So, these endless wars have to continue or we quickly become irrelevant on the worlds stage and then totally collapse under our raging debt mountain (which I believe China/Russia are patiently waiting/planning for)

It's not that everyone/anyone wants war with Iran, this is a late-empire cycle maneuver baked into the cake.

You want fair play in the world? Do you have any idea how far/fast the standard of living in this country would fall (almost overnight) if all of a sudden we played 'fair'?

Without these endless war(s)/endless aggression we have no other game plan. American citizens would have to get real jobs and create real wealth again (and probably loose a few million pounds).

So, we get this:

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Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb-bomb Iran!
 

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Project for the New American Century~"We have no choice but to re-instill in our foes and friends the fear that attaches to any great power. ... Only a war against Saddam Hussein will decisively restore the awe that protects American interests abroad and citizens at home". (1997)

This is the Washington think tank in the late 20th century that laid out the American Policy of regime changes in the Mideast for the past twenty years. It was determined way back then that without a strong military presence in the Mideast America could soon loose its' dominance over the world.

Basically, we have a strong military backing a fiat currency that happens to be the world's reserve currency. We have no gold. Our manufacturing has been outsourced, our farmers are going bankrupt, much of our infrastructure is rotted and obsolete.

So, these endless wars have to continue or we quickly become irrelevant on the worlds stage and then totally collapse under our raging debt mountain (which I believe China/Russia are patiently waiting/planning for)

It's not that everyone/anyone wants war with Iran, this is a late-empire cycle maneuver baked into the cake.

You want fair play in the world? Do you have any idea how far/fast the standard of living in this country would fall (almost overnight) if all of a sudden we played 'fair'?

Without these endless war(s)/endless aggression we have no other game plan. American citizens would have to get real jobs and create real wealth again (and probably loose a few million pounds).

So, we get this:

View attachment 131203 Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb-bomb Iran!
Pretty good summary. The pic is Sidney, maybe not Americano's.
 

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Pretty good summary. The pic is Sidney, maybe not Americano's.
Yes, it is a good summary and those 2 were probably on vacation.

American politicians have sold the nation out and both the money and the narrative are beyond our control. We could simply start large scale mining operations and buy up gold and rare earth elements with our fiat. It might kick off a global inflation but when you have the reserve currency, time is on your side - prices would still be a good buy for us regardless how many more digits we would need to add to the money. I we went back to honest solutions, like those in the original constitution, we would be back to very prosperous in very short order.

Solutions exist, but the working solutions will not be used. MAGA is a lie and a deception. Only non-working solutions will be trotted out (like tariffs, free stuff and war). This is because we are their enemy and we are still armed and somewhat free. China and most the rest of the world have neither of those characteristics, even if they think they do. We are a thorn in their side and they know that doing the devil's mercenary work helps to further destroy us.

Hopefully, if the soldiers are given orders to attack they will refuse them - something we should have done in Nam.
 
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Israel is trying to enslave the Palestinians, just like to Spartans did to the Helot...Helots. The helots (/ˈhɛləts, ˈhiːləts/; Ancient Greek: εἵλωτες, heílotes) were a subjugated population group that formed the main population of Laconia and Messenia, the territory controlled by Sparta. ... Tied to the land, they primarily worked in agriculture as a majority and economically supported the Spartan citizens. That is Israel game plan as they murder Palestinians and steal their land. As for Iran, we are intent on stealing their oil, they should aim their missiles at their neighbors oil fields to ensure destruction and Trump can explain $10/gallon gas. Those of you into history should read up on how the Spartans treated their slaves.
I don't know about the entire history and since history may have been re-written a number of times, who knows how much blame to place on which slave owners.

Slave owning is a mistake and I believe that some of our founders understood this but were trapped by forces beyond their control.

The ME is full of issues. The point being, instead of trying to profit from those problems and wait for blowback, wash, rinse and repeat - we should instead follow Ron Paul's 2008 platform. We need to fix our own problems and allow others to fix theirs. I know there are Palestinian Americans who support a just cause and they, like the rest of us, are mostly overwhelmed by the giant theft machine. Right now it won't do any good to fight the beast directly. Incremental helping hands is something that American middle class workers have always supported, and it seemed all Americans were for the two state solution. I'm not saying that's the best idea or I know exactly what is, but what's been tried only lubricates the war machine. Still, there are probably good solutions out there and Americans and people around the world would flock to those lands and many a average person there would get rich off of tourism alone if something like that were to be implemented. Of course the war business has different ideas.
 
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There is a line in the sand that Israel won't let Iran cross. When they do, you are really going to see something.
 

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There is a line in the sand that Israel won't let Iran cross. When they do, you are really going to see something.
As long as they have been able to count on us to bail them out, they have been gutsy, Iran is different I think.
 

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Iran has been backed into a corner with sanctions and it would seem the US is concerned about keeping shipping through the straights unimpeded.



A major showdown with Iran has been building for decades as neither side shows any signs of backing down without a major military confrontation.
 

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I think the Iranians have learned from Saddam's mistakes, they may have split up control and just told various people to shoot back without waiting for orders.. The Iranian missiles may not be much but if they blow up neighboring oil fields, it will be fun.
 

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Well lets see, Iran the final target in the regime change scam by the neo cons. If attacking Iraq was stupid as Trump said so will this.

What are we doing? We put sanctions on Iran's oil, an act of war. They may be getting ready to shut down the Straight of Hormuz. We cut their ability to sell oil they cut the ability for the world to get oil.

Certain things cause war and as sure as Japan would attack us on Dec. 7th of 41 the Iranians will have little choice but to shut down the straight. The military movements are in prep for this. And it's not an offensive action against the USA. So the lie that Iran was getting ready to attack us proves, the first casualty of war is the truth.

One thing if we force military action to open a closed straight of Hormuz, they will probably sink a carrier or two with the ship to ship missiles they have. Good luck with WWIII, military defeat by Russia and China with an invasion and regime change in Washington DC looms on the horizon.
 
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Attack 1 and it is now OUR opportunity. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder...MOAB speaks very loud and the feeling goes DEEP into your soul.
 

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Well they have the "Father Of All Bombs", so this should be a good fight, they are rumored to have dirty nukes and biological's/chemical. I hope we won't have to see who the bigger BS artist is...6,000 sailors lives are at stake.
 

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Attack 1 and it is now OUR opportunity. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder...MOAB speaks very loud and the feeling goes DEEP into your soul.
We have no right to tell anyone Iran or any other nation who they can and cannot sell their oil to. We should pull our fleet out and stop creating problems in the world.