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American Liberty 225th Anniversary Gold Coin on sale noon April 6th 2017

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The week of May 28, 2017 USMint report now shows it at 22,101.

My take on this: There is no way that this coin gets to max mintage of 100,000. I also want to say that it would not surprise me to see this coin still on sale 2 years from now when the 2019 American Liberty 1-oz gold coin gets released.
 

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I am still hoping for a mintage of no more than 30,000. We shall see?

You never know. At the rate that they are selling them each week, it will take a long while to reach 30,000 mintage (out of 100,000 max. mintage).
 

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I am still hoping for a mintage of no more than 30,000. We shall see?
It will not be anytime soon when this coin reaches 30,000 mintage. The June 4, 2017 report shows the mintage is now at 22,447 which is only an increase of 346 coins from last week's report. The "drip drip drip" weekly increase in sales of this coin will keep it under 30,000 in the near future.
 

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My assumption is that towards the end of the year, we may see a 'push'. Given that we still have half a year will make the 30k and under interesting.
 

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My assumption is that towards the end of the year, we may see a 'push'. Given that we still have half a year will make the 30k and under interesting.
As long as the USMint continues to charge a $400+ premium on this gold coin, then sub 30K mintage at year-end 2017 is very possible. However, it is also possible that this gold coin will continue to be available for sale from the USMint all the way through January 2019 (or later) when the next American Liberty 1-oz gold coin will be released. Then again, if the dismal weekly sales numbers of this coin continue, then the USMint could just say "Fuc it" and pull it off their website and declare it a "sellout" at sub 30K mintage. With the USMint, you never really know what they will do. We will just have to see.
 

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The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin mintage is now at 22,594 (as of June 11, 2017 USMint report).
 

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Interesting... I gather the Mint is trying to improve on public affordability for this coin/design, while simultaneously looking at ways to improve their profitability.
That would be my guess too. It will be very interesting to see how this would go. Factors such as what the premium will be, max. mintage and what spot gold will be at next year will play a big part on how this will go. Since they will use the same design as that on the 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin, then that will, unfortunately, will be strike 1 against the 2018 American Liberty 1/10-oz gold coin when it gets released sometime next year because of a lot of collectors not liking the design. I plan to get it when it comes out next year.

Then again, if the USMint charges the same premium for the 2018 1/10-oz American Liberty gold coin like they did for the 2016 Centennial Mercury Dime 1/10-oz gold dime, then it could still possibly do well because more collectors who really want it will be willing/able to buy at $205-$215 vs being able/willing to buy at $1640-$1690 for the 2017 1-oz gold version.
 

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The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin mintage is now at 22,879 (as of June 18, 2017 USMint report).
 

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The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin mintage is now at 23,235 (as of July 2, 2017 USMint report).
 

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The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin mintage is now at 23,412 (as of July 9, 2017 USMint report).
 

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The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin mintage is now at 24,448 (as of September 3, 2017 USMint report).

A 1,036 mintage increase from July 9, 2017 to September 3, 2017. Any future increase in sales of this gold coin will be even smaller IMO since the this gold coin is now priced at $1740 given the most recent increase in the spot gold price. That $1740 price does not factor in the fact that spot gold is above $1350 and if it stays above that $1350 then another price increase in the price will happen which would bring the price to $1790 next week.
 

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The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin mintage is now at 25,845 (as of November 5, 2017 USMint report).
 

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The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin mintage is now at 26,873 (as of December 17, 2017 USMint report).
 

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Based on many saying they did not like this coin and the associated Ag medals, I am surprised by their mintages.
Yep me too. That is a high mintage number IMO for a coin that is supposedly strongly disliked by many. However, I am not surprised that it is still on sale (because of the high premium) and will remain on sale until it reaches max. mintage of 100,000 which is not going to reach that anytime soon.
 

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Ugly ass design, sorry.
No need to apologize. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine. We have to agree to disagree regarding the design of this coin.
 

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The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin mintage is now at 28,243 (as of March 25, 2018 USMint report).

The 2018 1/10-oz American Liberty gold coin mintage currently stands at 19,509 (as of March 25, 2018 USMint report)
 

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I did end up buying the 1/10-oz 2018 American Liberty Gold coin when it was released on February 8, 2018.

I forgot to mention that when I ordered it on 2-8-2018, I paid $219.95 total for it which includes shipping. Not a good price at all but that what is to be expected at the USMint. I bought it because I liked it and wanted it to add to the very small gold collection that I have.
 

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The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin mintage is now at 28,620 (as of June 24, 2018 USMint report).

The 2018 1/10-oz American Liberty gold coin mintage currently stands at 21,685 (as of June 24, 2018 USMint report) .
 

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Can anyone explain why this coin is denominated at $100 USD vs. $50 denomination previously, and $20 before that ? Can't seem to wrap my head around the escalating denomination strategy. Thanks.
 

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I think these values are pretty arbitrary, and serve the primary function of indicating that the coin is sovereign made money, although the value is deliberately made to be way under market. Look at the platinum eagle, whose 1 ounce coin is denominated ar $100, as opposed to $50 for the same weight gold eagle. That merely reflects the fact that traditionally platinum is valued more highly than gold. Not so more recently, of course. I think it is fair to say that none of the precious metal coins the mint produces will trade below their stated denomination any time soon.
 

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Thanks, I think that's a valid point about sovereign made money. So if gold coin is legal tender (I have no idea whether it is or not) I can theoretically settle my $100 debt with one $100 denominated American Liberty coin, or two $50 American Gold Eagles. I would rather settle with one coin vs. two. And God forbid I use five $20 denominated double eagles. Kind of sounds like debasement ... same weight, different value.
 

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Double Eagles were ‘real money’ back when they were made. Yes, you could settle a debt for the face value of a modern eagle, but that would be kinda painful...:oops:
 

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Update: I decided to sell the 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary 1-oz gold coin this Summer. I sold it for $1143. That is a loss of $517. I sold it mainly because I wanted to use the proceeds to grow my silver art bar online business (i.e. bulding my "business stack" (i.e. reserve inventory). As a matter of fact, I sold most of my gold to concentrate on growing my business. The $517 loss that I took on selling this coin does not bother me because 1.) As of 10-31-2018, I made a net profit of over $4K selling silver art bars and other collectible silver coins, 2.) I will write this off as a capital loss on my taxes (kept buying and selling receipts) and 3.) I have the 1/10th oz version 2018 American Liberty 225th Anniversay gold coin and the 2017 American Liberty 1-oz .999 silver medal and I plan to keep those.