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The ultimate goal is 10 oz of gold, in my hand.


You'll blow the profits on something before gold hit's the picture, like a different truck or such. Enjoy the doing though.
 

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47 stretched and dried, just getting serious now, I got 2 damage control permits this week. I put out 65 sets today, and have another around 125 to go. Well go with steel in the ground til winter hits, then switch to snares. I am setting up a feedlot tomorrow, I am dreading the skinning from that one. My hands already hurt, thank god for weed and beer.

I think im getting arthritis.
 

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Feed lot coyotes are the worst. Flea ridden, mangy, stinky, cowardly horrible animals. They can sure add to the count though. Only thing weed can do is maybe make it smell like you are only doing skunk and not a feedlot coyote.
 

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I figure if I catch 10 a day, and 5 are mangy thats a 5 coyote check. Yea they stink more than a prairie dog for sure. I been messing with skunks so my sense of smell is shot.

I like getting nice and stoned before I skin, it helps me loosen up a bit, and makes my hands feel a bit better. Til it doesnt........ I used to skin in a shed w no heat, them days are over, cant do it anymo.
 

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47 stretched and dried, just getting serious now, I got 2 damage control permits this week. I put out 65 sets today, and have another around 125 to go. Well go with steel in the ground til winter hits, then switch to snares. I am setting up a feedlot tomorrow, I am dreading the skinning from that one. My hands already hurt, thank god for weed and beer.

I think im getting arthritis.
I got an arthritis in my right ankle from an old injury back in the mid70s. The orthopedic doc said I'd be having problems with it when I got older. I haven't.
I credit it to using glucosamine / chondroitin w/ MSM the last 30 years and CS/EIS the last twenty.
( I've heard some arthritis can be due to viruses especially RA)
I'd say they are worth a shot.
This is a long term plan and could take months to notice any difference, but again I think it is worth a try.
Maybe use some CBD Oil as a hand and wrist lotion. ( another something to consider)
Best of Luck, I really enjoy you guys on this thread.
 

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The feedlot is less of a mess than I thought it would be. Its close to town, every jackass w a deer rifle is killing em there. They blew bits out of one i had hooked up. the no trespassing signs go up tomorrow, they only drive the west half, and im over east. I also set right across the top of some boys from indiana, caught 14 pups today, with trash (bone) sets. They are allowed in there, thats ok. They are my families cattle though..............its a way down the road but we don have winter yet.

They met me at the gate, a bit heated up, they had 2. I told em id be pulling tues, have a damage cotrol job up north, and need the gear. Told em i got most of the pups, maybe they ought to consider gland lure and get the grown ups. They didnt seem to get it, ill get em when they leave (they are dirthole boys) and snare the cats too.

Some people, you just cant tell em anything. They dont understand the coyotes.
 

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I got the damage jobs done, and finished pulling gear yesterday. Been working on the reports for the squirrel cops, got 58 and 34 killed skinners, respectively. I had a few more days on one of the jobs, but we had light snow 2 days in a row, and I only cut 2 sets of dog tracks on 2 checks. I wiped em out. Im getting good at it. We used to try to catch coyotes, now I just hook em up til they are all dead.

It looks like were going to have a warm spell, so im going to do a couple of skunk jobs ive been putting off. Im gonna let the coyotes fill in where I killed them all til first of the year, then wack em again.

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I think im up to 140-ish in the freezers, I lost track a few weeks ago in the haze, this is my first day off since nov 4.
 

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me and the boy, he yells 'drop the beat song dog', then I wack em.......

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He is the second best trapper in the county.
 

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Her knows how to do it, but I have to stake and set the trap for him. He picks his own location, and is pretty good at reading sign.

I hired him to help me trap and process skunks in cages and tubes, he ought to be able to pull it off.
 

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I knew only one person that trapped. He loved being outdoors. He had one son and even though I'm sure he dragged the boy along and taught how it's done, he no longer does so.
 

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If he doesnt want to trap when he gets older, thats fine with me. Its a business, with alot of different aspects. From getting damage permits, interacting w landowners, game wardens, to tracking expenses, the actual trapping, fur shed work, marketing fur and volunteering at the state sale, he does it all.

He is homeschooled, so he does his school work while were rolling, be it in a tractor, combine, or sprayer, or the trapping rig. The more things a guy knows how to do, the more able he will be to take care of himself later in life.
 

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Yeah coop, the guy I was referring to was raised on a mountain.
 

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If he doesnt want to trap when he gets older, thats fine with me. Its a business, with alot of different aspects. From getting damage permits, interacting w landowners, game wardens, to tracking expenses, the actual trapping, fur shed work, marketing fur and volunteering at the state sale, he does it all.

He is homeschooled, so he does his school work while were rolling, be it in a tractor, combine, or sprayer, or the trapping rig. The more things a guy knows how to do, the more able he will be to take care of himself later in life.
Hear ! Hear ! BRAVO !! There is hope for the next Gen.
 

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Land owners. A lady was giving Hugh shit for being a trapper. Poor girl had an issue with beavers. Guess who got the call to deal with them.
The ol' Foot in Mouth disease: OPEN MOUTH, INSERT FOOT, CHEW VIGOROUSLY.
 

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Land owners. A lady was giving Hugh shit for being a trapper. Poor girl had an issue with beavers. Guess who got the call to deal with them.

I would have told her I was busy, and let the beavers flood her place. "no ma'am, I dont know anyone else who can help you, since im too busy to do it. Theyve all been run out of the country by people like you.'

Yes, im an asshole. Let em eat cake.
 

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I got it at good will for a buck. You dont think id trap in my perry ellis suit do you?
 

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The kid just come in from taking care of his chickens and ducks. He tells me he wants to save his money to buy a car to run his own line.

A car I said, why not a pickup. He says you can throw the critters in the trunk, and a car gets better gas mileage.

Thats my Boy!!!!!!!!!!

:2 thumbs up:

Fuck yea!
 

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The kid just come in from taking care of his chickens and ducks. He tells me he wants to save his money to buy a car to run his own line.

A car I said, why not a pickup. He says you can throw the critters in the trunk, and a car gets better gas mileage.

Thats my Boy!!!!!!!!!!

:2 thumbs up:

Fuck yea!
Speaking of cars and trucks, did you ever end up using a cargo attachment for the dogs?
 

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heres one for you fellers

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I was at the wifes company xmas party friday night, and one of the gals called me a mofucker and yelled at me in front of the whole party for killing all the pretty coyotes. She overheard me telling my buddy I had just finished an ADC job, and pulled everything because there was no more sign. She accused me of bludgeoning, but I corrected her and told her I shoot in the forehead w a .22. She got bug eyed and yelled some more, I thought she might pass out.

I told her to go fuck herself, and went and sat in the car and drank beer. Several of the husbands joined me as the night wore on. I had bought coyotes from most of them.

That lady has a new nickname, we call her 'the cuuuunt!'.

The ADC job was on her bosses husbands ranch east of town.

That whole deal was a new experience for me. The mama cows still like me though, and the guys who own em gave me some federal reserve notes.
 

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Speaking of cars and trucks, did you ever end up using a cargo attachment for the dogs?

No I bought an '03 s-10 single cab, w a 2.2 l engine instead. I can use it around the farm in off season. With 103k miles on it, picked it up for 1250 frn, had to put new u joints and shocks on it. It aint fast, and right now it stinks, but it costs me less than 20 dollars a day to roll around.
 

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I'm guessing white or red.
 

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Id buy another one if I could find one. Ill be actively looking after season.

I usually roll round in a '17 chevy 1 ton w a flatbed (farmer rig), all my buddies laugh at me when I pull up in it, Tell em to get fucked, and ask if they seen any dogs.

They tell me to fuck off back, then point to the back pasture.

Its a go-cart with a heater.
 

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I would have told her I was busy, and let the beavers flood her place. "no ma'am, I dont know anyone else who can help you, since im too busy to do it. Theyve all been run out of the country by people like you.'

Yes, im an asshole. Let em eat cake.
I think he worked for the Fish and Wildlife division for the state. An on call as needed gig.
 

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What's the market for yotes? Is it their hides?
 

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The landowner gets a damage control permit from the state, if he lost calves from depredation in the previous calving season. The landowner designates me as his agent. The landowner pays me, either in money, hay, heifers, fill my bulk fuel tanks at the house, etc. I end the lives of said coyotes, then skin em and sell the fur, and keep that money too.

The permit allows me to use special means to do the snuffing, not available to sportsmen. for example, footholds are illegal in my state for use by sportsmen, and I oftentimes have several hundred in the ground, with the blessing of USDA wildlife services. There are other legal for me methods I use which we wont discuss.

The beauty of it is, even if trapping is banned by socialist fuckheads, someone will always be needed to kill the problem. The state doesnt want to pay damages, even though they claim they 'own' the wildlife.

I cost the state zero frn, and pay my taxes on fur sales. The agreement I have with the landowners is private by state law.

I am a defacto govt trapper, you can call me alias.
 

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I also have contracts w 2 municipalities to do skunk and raccoon work, that is paid by the hour. I get to process those animals as well.

I am having more fun than should be allowed. The local coty police chief gave me a bottle of 18 yo glenn fiddich tuesday, because he appreciated the fact he and his 'men' didnt have to answer skunk calls anymore. I opened that bottle, took a big pull, and jumped in the rig and took off. He hollered 'be careful you crazy fucker.'

I think ill rent my farm this spring and do it full time.

I do not do dog catching. They asked me too, I told em its too dangerous to catch dogs, I just shoot em. End of discussion on their end.
 

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I also have contracts w 2 municipalities to do skunk and raccoon work, that is paid by the hour. I get to process those animals as well.

I am having more fun than should be allowed. The local coty police chief gave me a bottle of 18 yo glenn fiddich tuesday, because he appreciated the fact he and his 'men' didnt have to answer skunk calls anymore. I opened that bottle, took a big pull, and jumped in the rig and took off. He hollered 'be careful you crazy fucker.'

I think ill rent my farm this spring and do it full time.

I do not do dog catching. They asked me too, I told em its too dangerous to catch dogs, I just shoot em. End of discussion on their end.
The police chief has to deal with calls about skunks? Lol Wtf?
 

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Small town living. There was jokes in one council meeting I went to, could I trap the methheads too. No I said, they have no commercial value. It got a good laugh.

They love me man.
 

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There has been an unanswered question of what the bag limit is on tourists. Then again, without them, our economy would collapse. There is little inside money made in the area.
 

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Small town living. There was jokes in one council meeting I went to, could I trap the methheads too. No I said, they have no commercial value. It got a good laugh.

They love me man.
If only we could find commercial value in methheads....:ponder:
 

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I went and looked and accepted a fun adc job yesterday.

A farmer is selling bird hunts. He has quail and pheasants in flight pens, as well as native birds on his property. He has installed lots of habitat enhancements, tree rows, food plots, cement rubble piles, tree piles etc. He wants me to kill the ground nest robbers, and the bobcats. There is lots of sign.

target animals

skunks
coons
badger
red fox
swift fox
bobcat

I will be caging everything. I am excited to do this job. It will be a nice change of pace from trapping/skinning coyotes.

I am charging the guy 1k a week, and a tank of fuel. He is ok with that. Its a 20 mile drive one way, in the itty bitty s-10. I have no idea how to price jobs, but feel like i did ok. After setup I think checking will take less than 2 hrs a day, plus drive time.