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WTF was Trump thinking? As much as I want to support him, WTF was he thinking? Hold a rally with 100's of thousands of pissed off serious supporters and throw the election fraud in their faces one last time. And for what? What did he expect to happen here? Everyone was gonna go to starbucks for a latte afterwards?
This is the guy that was supposed to be playing 5 d chess? Doesn't even read the constitution right and thinks Pence could have turned away electoral votes he didn't like. This is a smart guy? I never went to college and understand the constitution better than this 500 corporation owning billionaire. Whats even worse i he got a lot of his supporters on board with the delusion. (Although I think Q had a lot to do with turning many of his supporters delusional).

To me it seems more like a perfect setup to take down the conservatives once and for all.
The dems now control everything. The schools so the kids can turn in their parents. Every branch of government and every government agency. We already know from Obamas time in office what that means for us. And of course every media outlet so they can control public opinion and ensure that every move they do is approved by every media outlet.
He has 14 days to call on us all to start th revolution and take the country back. He can keep the military at bay while we do it. Or this is over. We wont have to worry about left or right, there will be one party.
There are no other viable options at this point. It's all or nothing.
 

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He has 14 days to call on us all to start th revolution and take the country back. He can keep the military at bay while we do it. Or this is over. We wont have to worry about left or right, there will be one party.
There are no other viable options at this point. It's all or nothing.
If he was going to do that it would have happened today.

Instead we got this:

 

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25th amendment. I am hearing he may be expelled from DC as soon as tomorrow. No 14 days.
 

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Who the f cares. This is funny. Do I need to go round up videos of other protests where they are in Capital buildings? Just getting warmed up.
 

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If anyone wants to watch the rest of the process. Merely a formality after todays stunt

 

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25th amendment. I am hearing he may be expelled from DC as soon as tomorrow. No 14 days.
That should calm things down...
 

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25th amendment. I am hearing he may be expelled from DC as soon as tomorrow. No 14 days.
F/U

Please go "home" and recharge your battery.

Come back in 9 days.
 

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". (Although I think Q had a lot to do with turning many of his supporters delusional). "

Did you watch that "century of the self video " I posted in a thread of yours Cigar
lover? About the public relations business nobody ever talks about.
No I must have missed it. I'll see if I can find it.
 

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No I must have missed it. I'll see if I can find it.
All We ask is that you and Andial come back in 10 days to capitulate.

It is OK to be wrong.

Repent!
 

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All We ask is that you and Andial come back in 10 days to capitulate.

It is OK to be wrong.

Repent!
If I'm wrong we will be in CW2 within the next 2 weeks. I will try to get back for the capitulation speech though. :).
 

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Y'all must have missed where Antifa and BLM goons were agent provocateurs today....

"Facial recognition firm claims antifa infiltrated Trump protesters who stormed Capitol"

You all are so quick to blame Trump for what the Deep State perpetrates... you're no better than the MSM!
 

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Y'all must have missed where Antifa and BLM goons were agent provocateurs today....



You all are so quick to blame Trump for what the Deep State perpetrates...
It's almost like a mental disease...a type of derangement syndrome of sorts. They go around and around like zombies and always seem to end up at the same place
 
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We knew in advance antifa would be there. It's no surprise.
Trump kept saying we are not going to let them steal this election. What exactly does he mean by that? Did he really have people come from all across the country to listen to him talk about whats already been talked about for months and then leave 2 hrs later? Was there a plan? If so I missed it.
I guess I also missed the part where the deep state invited all the Trump supporters to DC
 

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We knew in advance antifa would be there. It's no surprise.
Trump kept saying we are not going to let them steal this election. What exactly does he mean by that? Did he really have people come from all across the country to listen to him talk about whats already been talked about for months and then leave 2 hrs later? Was there a plan? If so I missed it.
I guess I also missed the part where the deep state invited all the Trump supporters to DC
You're missing a lot of things. Things aren't happening the way and at the pace you want? Yeah, I know what that feeling's like. One thing I've learned, just when you think you have it all figured out things flip on its axis and the situation completely changes...again! If you'd stop trying to hang trump every time things don't go as you expect and just have a little patience and faith you might not be flip flopping back and forth so much.

Do you really think this would be over in one day? Hell, we're barely into the third inning! C'mon man!
 
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Curious to see how many normal dims there are in both houses. Can't believe they'll all go full leftard and green olde deal, no more cops, wind mills, grab your guns. The next 2 years just MIGHT wake up the states that will have to vote for senators and congress...if you trust the vote...and MAYBE that will be altered somehow.
When do I get the rest of my $2000, and free meds, and free phone...keep your needles or give them to Pierre in Utah....
Covid should be gone soon, the southern borders will be open and we'll all have to press 3 to hear English.
 

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You're missing a lot of things. Things aren't happening the way and at the pace you want? Yeah, I know what that feeling's like. One thing I've learned, just when you think you have it all figured out things flip on the axis and the situation changes. If you'd stop trying to hang trump every time things don't go as you expect and just have a little patience and faith you might not be flip flopping back and forth so much.

Do you really think this would be over in one day? Hell, we're barely into the third inning! C'mon man!
You're a kind man.
 

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Curious to see how many normal dims there are in both houses. Can't believe they'll all go full leftard and green olde deal, no more cops, wind mills, grab your guns. The next 2 years just MIGHT wake up the states that will have to vote for senators and congress...if you trust the vote...and MAYBE that will be altered somehow.
When do I get the rest of my $2000, and free meds, and free phone...keep your needles or give them to Pierre in Utah....
Covid should be gone soon, the southern borders will be open and we'll all have to press 3 to hear English.
any 'normal' Dims have a knife to their throat. These radicals ARE the Russian Bolsheviks of 1917. They will end lives without hesitation if they identify anyone standing in their way. As a matter of fact I truly believe they've ended a few lives over this coup over the past couple of weeks. They're playing for keeps
 

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You're missing a lot of things. Things aren't happening the way and at the pace you want? Yeah, I know what that feeling's like. One thing I've learned, just when you think you have it all figured out things flip on the axis and the situation changes. If you'd stop trying to hang trump every time things don't go as you expect and just have a little patience and faith you might not be flip flopping back and forth so much.

Do you really think this would be over in one day? Hell, we're barely into the third inning! C'mon man!
I'd like to see something happen. Anything other than our team getting our ass kicked at every turn. We are outplayed by a mile every step of the way.. How is it I was complaining about the election fraud and that nothing was done about it at least a year ago but Trump, with all his advisors and unlimited money didn't do anything about election fraud beforehand? His lawyers lose every case at every level. Rudy is useless as tits on a bull. Lin Wood flew over the kukoos nest. He's so fucking far out there I have no idea whats he's on but I want some.

3rd inning? How about 9th inning and we are down by 9 runs. 2 outs and no-one on any bases and the count is 2 and 0.
100's of thousands just dropped a shitload of money to be in DC expecting something big to happen. The only thing that happened was he probably filled his Hotel. 2 hr speech then go home? WTF was that all about? People flew in from all over the country for a 2 hr speech?

You guys are still sitting around waiting for something to happen. Yesterday the great hope was that Pence was going to do something illegal but that quickly failed today.. I was right once again. I know it sucks for you guys to hear me say all the time that I was right but thats the facts.

So whats the next great hope? Military tribunals? Thats not happening either.. From here on out it will be Trump blaming everyone and everything for the voter fraud.. He will be right too but nothing is going to change the fact that Biden is taking over in 2 weeks.. Frosts my ass too but if there's no civil war then it's time for Plan B for me.
 

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How do you know nothing is happening? Because you haven't seen it? How do you know nothing was done about election fraud and no steps were taken after the 2018 election? Are you disappointed that it happened again in 2020?

You're living in the past, where politics was predictable and the ending was always the same.

Pence was never the great white hope, not to me or anyone else paying attention. He's a career politician, not a patriot and certainly not a hero. He's giving Mittens a run for his money as the biggest asshole this side of the Mason Dixon line

If you want to give up, then give up. Pissing and moaning endlessly here isn't going to change things one way of the other? What do you want us to do? Hold your hand?

If you feel Trump is a traitor and Biden won the election no one here will try and change your mind. Get going on Plan B! There's so much more I could type here but I've wasted enough of my time on this.
 

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I am about right here:

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are … endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights…. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men…. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. … Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Declaration of Independence (1776).
 

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Trump said there would be a peaceful transition in 2 weeks so that answers the question.
Yes we are finished.
Now it's decision time. There is probably not going to be any CW2 so now the question is , where is the best place to live? As we go forward here our rights will continue to be reduced. What rights we have we cant defend in a corrupt court and political system anyway.
We will go forward probably as some socialist state similar to Europe. As I get older I suppose I should embrace all the free shit but pride prevents me from doing so. Things will be fine until the dollar loses reserve status. Once that happens it's a quick downhill slide. Thats not going to go over well.
So there's basically 2 countries I am interested in. Cuba and Mexico. In Mx you can rent a decent apartment for 200 a month in Cancun. People are friendly and as a single older guy there, the women are very approachable and friendly. Quality of life wouldn't be so bad. decent internet connection so you can trade on most markets and also play poker.
Cuba is very affordable but no internet and your really going back to a 1950's lifestyle. Not the worst thing but if I'm going to live away from family in the US it would be nice to have decent access to email and stuff.
Most of South America is open as well. The entire west coast for sure and Argentina and Uruguay on the east coast.
What it really comes down to is, is it better to be poor in a wealthy country like the US or upper middle class in a poorer country like all of the mentioned ones?
 

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Doug Casey has a place in Uruguay. I'm gonna watch the $hitshow from the Middle South. Watch the Great Uniter do his magic.
 

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Doug Casey has a place in Uruguay. I'm gonna watch the $hitshow from the Middle South. Watch the Great Uniter do his magic.
Last interview I heard from Casey he is in Virginia and has no more interest in travel.
 

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Trump said there would be a peaceful transition in 2 weeks so that answers the question.
Yes we are finished.
Now it's decision time. There is probably not going to be any CW2 so now the question is , where is the best place to live? As we go forward here our rights will continue to be reduced. What rights we have we cant defend in a corrupt court and political system anyway.
We will go forward probably as some socialist state similar to Europe. As I get older I suppose I should embrace all the free shit but pride prevents me from doing so. Things will be fine until the dollar loses reserve status. Once that happens it's a quick downhill slide. Thats not going to go over well.
So there's basically 2 countries I am interested in. Cuba and Mexico. In Mx you can rent a decent apartment for 200 a month in Cancun. People are friendly and as a single older guy there, the women are very approachable and friendly. Quality of life wouldn't be so bad. decent internet connection so you can trade on most markets and also play poker.
Cuba is very affordable but no internet and your really going back to a 1950's lifestyle. Not the worst thing but if I'm going to live away from family in the US it would be nice to have decent access to email and stuff.
Most of South America is open as well. The entire west coast for sure and Argentina and Uruguay on the east coast.
What it really comes down to is, is it better to be poor in a wealthy country like the US or upper middle class in a poorer country like all of the mentioned ones?
Belize, maybe. How about Crete? I hear they have the longest lifespans due to their local diet.

The problem with Mexico / Central America / South America is that you are putting a target on yourself as a "wealthy" American. Hard to enjoy your upper-middle class lifestyle without becoming a target for robbery (or worse).

This is interesting: https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living
 
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Last interview I heard from Casey he is in Virginia and has no more interest in travel.

He's doing a YouTube thing almost on a daily basis with some young guy I never heard of but unless I am mistaken he is in Uruguay.
 

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Belize, maybe. How about Crete? I hear they have the longest lifespans due to their local diet.

The problem with Mexico / Central America / South America is that you are putting a target on yourself as a "wealthy" American. Hard to enjoy your upper-middle class lifestyle without becoming a target for robbery (or worse).

This is interesting: https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living
After doing some comparisons here I have drawn some conclusions:

1. Places where people WANT to live are generally more expensive.
2. More temperate climates are generally more expensive.
3. Remote locations (a free man's preference) are generally more expensive.

The big conclusion: if you want to live free you should expect to pay more for it.
 

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After doing some comparisons here I have drawn some conclusions:

1. Places where people WANT to live are generally more expensive.
2. More temperate climates are generally more expensive.
3. Remote locations (a free man's preference) are generally more expensive.

The big conclusion: if you want to live free you should expect to pay more for it.
I'm an American and I'm staying in America. No one will drive me out of my home...NO ONE! Those who feel they should leave....don't forget your masks when you board the plane.
 

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I'm an American and I'm staying in America. No one will drive me out of my home...NO ONE! Those who feel they should leave....don't forget your masks when you board the plane.
just a curious question here Amigo , under what conditions did your ancestors come to America?

my g-g grampa came here from Portugal because there was a revolution between liberals and conservatives , the War of Two Brothers

my gramps and his bro were on the losing side and had to escape for their lives or be hanged....they were mayor and treasurer of a small town northern Portugal , I think the algarve?

and my other g-g gramps came to America from Denmark because the King had a hard on for Russia and was conscripting by force young men to fight an unpopular war and he did not want to die for a despot

i can envision a scenario in America that would cause me to make a decision like my ancestors.
 

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WTF was Trump thinking? As much as I want to support him, WTF was he thinking? Hold a rally with 100's of thousands of pissed off serious supporters and throw the election fraud in their faces one last time. And for what? What did he expect to happen here? Everyone was gonna go to starbucks for a latte afterwards?
That was everybody's thinking, apparently. The Magic Power of Protest Marches. Beliefs die hard - and few learned the lesson of Michelle Malkin ten years ago. The lesson is: "Peaceful Protests" only work when TPTB are ON YOUR SIDE, and are looking for an EXCUSE to give you what it is you're screaming for.

It's one more manifestation of Normalcy Bias. Remember Trump's generation - Vietnam Peace Protests. He wasn't involved but we all saw it on the alphabet channels of the time.

He was hoping a show of force might be intimidating. But these CONgress-cretins are REDS. They are only intimidated when the gun's pointing in their own face.

They have co-opted State Election bodies; and judges; and the Stuporeme Kangaroos. AND the fake-law is in Botox Nan's pocket (next to her hip flask).

I support the right to confront government in its offices, for Redress of Grievances...but to survive, one must be realistic.

These people, and Trump with them, were not. Four died and of course the Nooze Liars are blaming the protestors for it. Moar false propaganda.

Get used to it. This is what a dictatorial force-in-power DOES.

Only solution is, a wall, guards with arms, and a resolute liberated population.
 

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That was everybody's thinking, apparently. The Magic Power of Protest Marches. Beliefs die hard - and few learned the lesson of Michelle Malkin ten years ago. The lesson is: "Peaceful Protests" only work when TPTB are ON YOUR SIDE, and are looking for an EXCUSE to give you what it is you're screaming for.

It's one more manifestation of Normalcy Bias. Remember Trump's generation - Vietnam Peace Protests. He wasn't involved but we all saw it on the alphabet channels of the time.

He was hoping a show of force might be intimidating. But these CONgress-cretins are REDS. They are only intimidated when the gun's pointing in their own face.

They have co-opted State Election bodies; and judges; and the Stuporeme Kangaroos. AND the fake-law is in Botox Nan's pocket (next to her hip flask).

I support the right to confront government in its offices, for Redress of Grievances...but to survive, one must be realistic.

These people, and Trump with them, were not. Four died and of course the Nooze Liars are blaming the protestors for it. Moar false propaganda.

Get used to it. This is what a dictatorial force-in-power DOES.

Only solution is, a wall, guards with arms, and a resolute liberated population.
ok what was there a million people?

and how many acted like idiots?

and how many of those idiots were anti -*hit-fa and BLM mostly bm people?

maybe 2 or 3 hundred idiots
and the presstitutes with a wide brush paint all one million protestors as embarrassing , violent , criminal thugs....

what a joke..

I hope there is a million March protest every month from now on
 

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czech republic or poland would be my pic......maybe hungary
I have thought about Poland. At the very least, the women are beautiful.

But, to get there, you have to board a plane. To do that, you (soon) have to have Doctor Gates' Vaccine - to comply with Herr Schwab's mad fantasies.

The more I learn of that damn poison, the more I fear it. A temporary solution but permanent injury.
 

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ok what was there a million people?

and how many acted like idiots?

and how many of those idiots were anti -*hit-fa and BLM mostly bm people?

maybe 2 or 3 hundred idiots
and the presstitutes with a wide brush paint all one million protestors as embarrassing , violent , criminal thugs....

what a joke..

I hope there is a million March protest every month from now on
I don't want marches.

I want the millions doing something constructive.

These fake representatives do not CARE what you want. They have the POW-ah!
 

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just a curious question here Amigo , under what conditions did your ancestors come to America?

my g-g grampa came here from Portugal because there was a revolution between liberals and conservatives , the War of Two Brothers

my gramps and his bro were on the losing side and had to escape for their lives or be hanged....they were mayor and treasurer of a small town northern Portugal , I think the algarve?

and my other g-g gramps came to America from Denmark because the King had a hard on for Russia and was conscripting by force young men to fight an unpopular war and he did not want to die for a despot

i can envision a scenario in America that would cause me to make a decision like my ancestors.
The problem is if you believe the worst they have this $hit wrapped up so tight that there might not be any place to go. I have a hard time believing the Russians and Chinese are on board for this garbage the like of Gates and Schwab are spewing. Might be wrong though.