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ATB 'P' Mint Mark Coin Thread

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Most recent mintages as of June 18, 2017 USMint report

Effigy "P" - 15,288

Frederick "P" - 14,338

Fort Moultrie "P" (last "P" puck of 2016 still on sale at USMint.gov) - 17,223
 

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With the ozarks due out in a couple of weeks it seems like ther 2017s will not match the 2016s in mintage numbers.
 

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With the ozarks due out in a couple of weeks it seems like ther 2017s will not match the 2016s in mintage numbers.
It will be interesting to see where the mintages on the 2017 "P" pucks end up being. Of course, that could take a year (or possibly two) from the date that the last 2017 "P" puck becomes available for sale until we know what the final mintages numbers will be for the 2017 "P" pucks.
 

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Don't forget 2016 Moultrie is still cranking along at 17,193
I am starting to agree with you in that once Ft Moultrie reaches 19K, then it will become "unavailable"/"sold out".
 

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It will occur some where in the high 18k region, IF it gets there before year end.
I stand corrected based on the following 1st 4 2016 P puck mintages reached when they were declared "sold out":

Shawnee "P" = 18,898

Cumberland Gap "P" = 18,713

Harper's Ferry "P" = 18,896

Teddy Roosevelt "P" = 18,917

With Ft Moutrie "P" currently at 17,223, it will be interesting to see if it gets to high 18K by years end.
 

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Over the last two weeks 60 Moultrie pucks have been sold. At that rate it will be into December before they run out. They need a sudden "currently unavailable " for one of the two newer pucks to stimulate interest in the series
 

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Most recent mintages as of June 25, 2017 USMint report

Effigy "P" - 15,325

Frederick "P" - 14,472

Fort Moultrie "P" (last "P" puck of 2016 still on sale at USMint.gov) - 17,247
 

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Most recent mintages as of July 2, 2017 USMint report

Effigy "P" - 15,388

Frederick "P" - 14,640

Fort Moultrie "P" (last "P" puck of 2016 still on sale at USMint.gov) - 17,269
 

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July 9th mintages: Effigy "P"- 15,432 Douglass "P"-14,828 Ft. Moultrie "P"- 17,304 Douglass closing in on passing Hawaii mintage, only 35 to go.
The Douglass "P" will more than likely pass Hawaii "P" in mintage in next week's USMint report (July 16).
 

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Recent issues have all approached 18k before being sold out and I see no evidence that this will change. Some will just take longer to do so
 

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Wondering if there was a limited amount of Puck blanks, and they gave priority to the "P" pucks, and the bullion issues got the short end? I know, it doesn't make sense, but nothing having to do with the Mint does.
 

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"P" mintages as of the September 3, 2017 USMint report:

Effigy "P" = 15,759

Frederick Douglass "P = 15,657

Ozark "P" = 14,480

Ft Moultrie "P" = 17,473

Ellis "P" mintages should be available next Tuesday/Wednesday USM report.
 

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Ellis Island "P" sold pretty briskly for the first week!

Precious Metal Products 17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - EFF MNDS 15804 09/10/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AK 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - DOUGLASS 15746 09/10/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AL 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - OZARK 14732 09/10/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AM 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - ELLIS ISLAND 14642 09/10/2017
 

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Ellis Island "P" coins are selling like hot cakes folks. MCM has PCGS graded SP-70's on EBAY. You can pay $229.00 for a standard flag label, First Strike, or $349.00 For the same with a Mercanti signed label, and those are selling fast. $120.00 extra for a Mercanti signature label? Nuts! Next Tuesday's Mintages should show Ellis surpass Effigy easily.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-P-Elli...259766?hash=item212d9e2576:g:hTUAAOSwA2hZsAec

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-P-Elli...264308?hash=item212d9e3734:g:XfcAAOSwLmZZsAj4
 
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Ellis Island "P" sold pretty briskly for the first week!

Precious Metal Products 17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - EFF MNDS 15804 09/10/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AK 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - DOUGLASS 15746 09/10/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AL 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - OZARK 14732 09/10/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AM 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - ELLIS ISLAND 14642 09/10/2017
It will be interesting (to me anyway) to see how quickly the Ellis "P" (as well as Effigy "P", Frederick "P" and Ozark "P") will reach 18.8K - 18.9K before it is declared "sold out" at USMint.gov. I am guessing not anytime soon. I have not bought my Ellis "P" yet. I am no rush to get it since I expect that it will still be available several months from now.
 

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I think as I said above, that Ellis will surpass Effigy in sales by next Tuesday's report. We'll see. This one might sell 20k, who knows. I received my Ellis "P" the other day. Coin has a G-D light scratch looking mark, on the outer edge of the field. I swear, that's my luck! Probably makes it a SP-68. Why am I picturing some bitch with 4 inch finger nails, encapsulating the coins at the Mint?
 

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I sent back three Ellis P's with edge damage, also. Second time this year. Mint is getting sloppy. Are they taking us for granted, among other things. Oh also, their out-sourcing company for the cust. service and shipping, bad. A year or two ago, I sent some "nicked" ones back and asked for replacements, but instead they refunded my money, never told me and I waited and waited and they never shipped. Had to buy on the secondary market . Not a happy camper.
 

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2017 ATB "P" puck mintages as of the September 17, 2017 USMint report:

Effigy "P" = 15,841

Frederick "P" = 15,816

Ozark "P" = 14,954

Ellis "P" = 15,609

2016 ATB Ft. Moultrie "P" = 17,532
 

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After week one subscriptions are done the number of these sold is at a trickle. At some point, with five presently available, the Mint has to rethink the numbers and drop mintage to the low 16k's.....or maybe they don't care and the premium is worth keeping the stock forever
 

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I sent back three Ellis P's with edge damage, also. Second time this year. Mint is getting sloppy. Are they taking us for granted, among other things. Oh also, their out-sourcing company for the cust. service and shipping, bad. A year or two ago, I sent some "nicked" ones back and asked for replacements, but instead they refunded my money, never told me and I waited and waited and they never shipped. Had to buy on the secondary market . Not a happy camper.
All one has to do is call the US Mint customer service, and speak to one of those morons for a minute or two, to determine what the issue is. They may as well outsource CS to Pakistan or something, that's how bad it is.
 

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Some of the 2019 ATB designs are not too bad. If they pick decent ones, then I might get one or two of them for 2019. As for the 2018 designs........MEH!!!!! I am going to sit on the sidelines on the 2018 pucks ("P" and bullion).
 

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At this point, I am selling more ATBs ("P" and bullion versions) than I am buying at the moment. My last ATB puck that I sold was a 2015 Saratoga "P" (NGC SP70 1st day of issue label) for $225.00. As long as I can make a net profit (after fees and shipping costs), then I will continue to bottom fish for them and flip them on ebay.

Based on my most recent experience with "P" pucks, if one were to look hard enough and be patient, certain "P" pucks can be had for less than the original USMint issue price. I have seen some "P" pucks selling for $3-$4 over spot per troy oz at coin shows.
 

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Precious Metal Products 17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - EFF MNDS 15864 09/24/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AK 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - DOUGLASS 15864 09/24/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AL 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - OZARK 15044 09/24/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AM 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - ELLIS ISLAND 15891 09/24/2017

Effigy and Douglass with identical numbers, while Ellis surpasses both in sales.
 

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This Week's Numbers:

Precious Metal Products 17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - EFF MNDS 15906 10/01/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AK 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - DOUGLASS 15906 10/01/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AL 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - OZARK 15187 10/01/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AM 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - ELLIS ISLAND 16109 10/01/2017

Effigy and Douglass tied 2 weeks in a row?
 

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2017 ATB "P" puck mintages as of the October 8, 2017 USMint report:

Effigy "P" = 15,940

Frederick "P" = 15,950

Ozark "P" = 15,305

Ellis "P" = 15,876

2016 ATB Ft. Moultrie "P" = 17,581
 

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October 22, 2017 Numbers:

Precious Metal Products 17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - EFF MNDS 16015 10/22/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AK 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - DOUGLASS 16067 10/22/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AL 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - OZARK 15471 10/22/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AM 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - ELLIS ISLAND 16226 10/22/2017
Precious Metal Products 16AN 2016 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - FT MLTR 17617 10/22/2017
 

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October 29, 2017 Numbers:


Precious Metal Products 17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - EFF MNDS 16049 10/29/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AK 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - DOUGLASS 16103 10/29/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AL 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - OZARK 15547 10/29/2017
Precious Metal Products 17AM 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - ELLIS ISLAND 16507 10/29/2017

Precious Metal Products 16AN 2016 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - FT MLTR 17628 10/29/2017
 

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November 5, 2017 US Mint numbers:

Effigy "P" = 16,083

Frederick "P" = 16,149

Ozark "P" = 15,629

Ellis Island "P" = 16,644

2016 Ft Moultrie "P" = 17,643

So far (as of November 10, 2017) The Ozark "P" has the lowest mintage of all of the 2017 "P" pucks released so far this year. I do not know if the Ozark will end up being the lowest mintage of all 2017. It depends what the George Rogers "P" puck mintage will be. However, if the mintage of each 2017 "P" puck ends up being around 18.9K - 19K, then it will not really matter since apparently the US Mint will not pull any "P" pucks until 18.9K-19K mintage point is reached.
 

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November 5, 2017 US Mint numbers:

it will not really matter since apparently the US Mint will not pull any "P" pucks until 18.9K-19K mintage point is reached.
I am going with that thought....I actually wish they WOULD pull it at 16k to stimulate some interest but I bet it will be on sale for quite a while selling 120/week
 

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2017 ATB "P" puck mintages as of the December 3, 2017 USMint report:

Effigy "P" = 16281

Frederick "P" = 16410

Ozark "P" = 16089

Ellis "P" = 17254

2016 ATB Ft. Moultrie "P" = 17728

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