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Barr says he does not expect criminal investigation of Obama or Biden as result of Durham probe

By Brooke Singman | Fox News



Attorney General Bill Barr said Monday he does not expect U.S. Attorney John Durham’s review into the origins of the Russia probe will lead to a “criminal investigation” of either former President Barack Obama or former Vice President Joe Biden -- while noting that their concern of “potential criminality” in the conduct of that probe is “focused on others.”
Barr, during a press conference otherwise focused on the December 2019 shooting at Naval Air Station Pensacola, spoke at length about the Durham investigation. He said he has a “general idea” of how the investigation is going and confirmed that “some aspects are being investigated as potential crimes.”

Barr did say, however, that “not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is necessarily a federal crime.”
“As for President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement based on what I know, I don’t expect Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man,” Barr said. “Our concern of potential criminality is focused on others.”
Later Monday afternoon, President Trump told reporters he was "surprised" by Barr's comments.

This comes after both Obama and Biden -- the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee -- have faced heightened criticism from Republicans for any potential role in the early stages of the probe. Trump last week even called for Obama to be summoned to testify before Congress.
The politically explosive environment -- bringing the country into uncharted territory, with a former president accused by critics of involvement in a political probe related to his eventual successor, and the sitting president now essentially calling for retribution against his predecessor -- has built ever since the DOJ moved to dismiss its case against Michael Flynn.

Barr and the DOJ cited problems with the FBI's interview with the Trump national security adviser in deciding to back away from the prosecution on the charge of lying to investigators. New documents, meanwhile, indicated Obama was at least aware of the details of Flynn's intercepted December 2016 phone calls with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, that were a subject of that fateful interview. Then, a list was released of Obama-era officials involved in seeking to "unmask" what turned out to be Flynn's name in intelligence reports.
Both Biden and Obama's chief of staff were among the officials involved in those requests.
Trump last week insisted Obama was involved in an unspecified "crime," and continued to rail against the Obama administration in interviews.
But Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham was later reluctant to go along with Trump's demand that Obama be called to testify.
"As to the Judiciary Committee, both presidents are welcome to come before the committee and share their concerns about each other. If nothing else it would make for great television. However, I have great doubts about whether it would be wise for the country,” he said in a statement last week.

Barr expressed similar reservations on Monday, making clear he's concerned about potential wrongdoing during the Russia probe while also stressing that this process should not be a vehicle for retribution.

He said “this will not be and cannot be a tit-for-tat exercise,” noting that “the only way to break away from a dual system of justice” is to “ensure we scrupulously apply” the same system to both sides of the aisle.
Barr maintained that “in the past few decades, there have been increasing attempts to use the criminal justice system as a political weapon,” using “the flimsiest of legal theories.” Barr said that is “not a good development. It is not good for our political life. It is not good for our criminal justice system.”
Barr said that, so long as he is attorney general “the criminal justice system will not be used for partisan, political ends.”
Barr said the nation is divided and it's “critical that we have an election where the American people are allowed to make a decision—a choice—between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden based on a robust debate of policy issues.”

He added: “We cannot allow this process to be hijacked by efforts to drum up criminal investigations of either candidate.” Barr said that “any effort to pursue an investigation of either candidate has to be approved by me.”
He went on to make clear his dim view toward the Russia investigation that ended up targeting a number of Trump associates.

“What happened to the president in 2016 election and throughout the first two years of his administration was abhorrent,” Barr said, adding that “it was a grave injustice and it was unprecedented.”
“We saw two different standards of justice emerge. ... One that applied to Trump and his associates, and another that applied to everyone else,” Barr said.
“The Durham investigation is trying to get to the bottom of what happened,” Barr continued, adding that it will “determine if there were any federal laws broken, and if there were, those who broke the laws will be held to account.”

Multiple sources have told Fox News that Durham is expected to wrap up his investigation by the end of the summer.
One source said that the "pattern of conduct" Durham is investigating includes misrepresentations made to the FISA court to obtain warrants to surveil Trump campaign associate Carter Page, as well as the "unmasking" of Flynn's identity.
“Barr talks to Durham every day,” one source recently told Fox News. “The president has been briefed that the case is being pursued, and it’s serious.”
Brooke Singman is a Politics Reporter for Fox News. Follow her on Twitter at @BrookeSingman.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-durham-probe
 

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barr coughs up a hairball, yet again,

poor qballs, another failed expedition,

barr is turning into another do nothing sessions...............
 

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Why the F is Barr even talking about this. Just STFU and let the Durham report speak for itself when it is released.
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and just to cement my point for those too dense to get it,
still hanging on their qball bullchit,


entry 2:

Congress should pass laws allowing investigators to read locked cell phones, Barr says
Attorney General did not specify whether he wants tech companies to install "back door" access mechanisms on phones.

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(Ralf-Finn Hestoft / Getty Images)
By Susan Katz Keating
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May 18, 2020 - 5:26pm

Top U.S. law enforcement officials called on Congress on Monday to enact measures allowing them to override corporate resistance and read the data on criminal suspects’ locked cell phones – following an earlier announcement about an al-Qaeda link to a fatal shooting at a U.S. Navy air station.
“Our national security cannot remain in the hands of big corporations who put dollars over lawful access and public safety,” Attorney General William Barr said. “The time has come for a legislative solution.”
Barr requested the action during a joint press conference with FBI Director Chris Wray, in which they presented FBI findings on a December 2019 terrorism case. The findings proved links, the officials said, between an al-Qaeda operative and a Saudi Air Force cadet who opened fire at Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida, killing three sailors and injuring eight others.



The FBI established the links about four months after the incident, by breaking into two locked iPhones belonging to terrorist Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, the officials said.


While Barr and Wray praised the efforts of FBI phone-crackers, they harshly criticized the iPhone’s developer, Apple.


“Thanks to the great work of the FBI – and no thanks to Apple – we were able to unlock Alshamrani’s phones,” Barr said.


Shortly after the fatal attack, Barr said, the FBI obtained court orders allowing investigators to search Alshamrani’s cell phones.


“The problem was that the phones were locked, and the FBI did not have the passwords, so they needed help to get in,” Barr said. “We asked Apple for assistance and so did the president. Unfortunately, Apple would not help us unlock the phones. Apple had deliberately designed them so that only the user – in this case, the terrorist – could gain access to their contents.”


During the four months the FBI spent cracking the phones, Wray said, advantage went to the enemy.


“Now, months after the attack, anyone [Alshamrani] spoke to – here or abroad –has had months to concoct and compare stories with co-conspirators, destroy evidence or disappear,” Wray said.


Court orders compelling Apple or other tech giants to help are not sufficient, the attorney general said.


“The developments in this case demonstrate the need for a legislative solution,” said Barr, who did not specify the solution he seeks, nor whether he wants lawmakers to compel tech companies to install a "back door" access mechanism on cell phones.


Apple did not immediately respond on Monday to a request for comment.


Legislators addressed the discussion last year, in hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee.


In the session that examined encryption versus lawful access, Apple told legislators that the complex codes that lock individual cell phones are important safety devices.


“Encryption is needed to protect from malicious actors whose attacks are growing exponentially in scope, frequency and sophistication,” said Erik Neuenschwander, Apple’s user privacy director and a longtime software engineer.


Encryption enables iPhones to be protected against hackers and criminals, Neuenschwander testified.


“We do not know of a way to deploy encryption that provides access only for the good guys without making it easier for the bad guys to break in,” he said.


Some information is hidden even from Apple, by design, Neuenschwander said, noting that if the company is locked out, so too are “nefarious insiders or malicious hackers.”


The issue is primed for compromise, one prominent law enforcement official suggested.


“A middle ground exists in the smartphone encryption debate,” testified New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr., who cited cases in which criminal investigations were stymied by locked cell phones.


A proper balance between privacy and public safety can be achieved in part by requiring a court-ordered search warrant, Vance said, and by limiting the types of data that can be obtained.


In Monday’s press conference, Barr pushed for quick action.


“We cannot do our jobs when companies put the ability to defeat court-authorized searches in the hands of terrorists and criminals,” Barr said, adding that “we cannot afford to wait longer.”


https://justthenews.com/government/...locked-cell-phones-barr?utm_source=whatfinger
 

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Barr did say, however, that “not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is necessarily a federal crime.”
Probably said this to quell the "hang 'em high" crowd.
 

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Why the F is Barr even talking about this. Just STFU and let the Durham report speak for itself when it is released.
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Unless this is all disinformation campaign.... nah! Who amI fooling?
 

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These guys have been talking both sides for some time. Not sure what they are really doing. BUT this is one side more than anyone the last 20 years so I'll count it as progress.
 

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Probably said this to quell the "hang 'em high" crowd.
naww, he said it because that is what he is told to say,

they aren't ever going to air dirty laundry in public, ever
 

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“As for President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement based on what I know, I don’t expect Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man,” Barr said.


well expect the unexpected you fecking peckerhead
 

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Nothing is ever going to happen because Trump keeps putting the DS in key positions. He has no one to blame but himself. It's also nice to see some pushback on the silly letter.

All I can say in Trumps defense is he never stood a chance against the machine in DC. They chewed him up and regurgitated him time and time again. He plays right into their hands and really has no idea how to stop any of this. He refuses to do the right thing and instead gives the other side and DS whatever they want. Last year the 16 spy agencies received an 80 billion dollar annual increase in their budgets. Russias entire military budget is slightly more than 100 billion.

He tore up the start treaties with Russia so the US could build a new nuclear arsenal. No one else in the world needs a new nuclear arsenal but for some reason the US does.
Started space force which will militarize space. Against all treaties Trump goes it alone like a dictator.
Like it or not this isn't good for the human race.

After all the abuse of powers from all the agency heads you would think trump would be smart enough to just clean house and start with loyal people from scratch. Nope. You think barr would be concerned about giving the government backdoor access after all the abuse of power he has seen? Nope, he just wants more power. It's time for chipmunk cheeks to pack his nuts and leave as well.
 

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because Trump keeps putting the DS in key positions. He has no one to blame but himself.
that's funny

mr tramp, these are your choices for AG

what? what if I don't want any of those?

good one my tramp, that's funny, as I said, this is your list from which to choose, pick one

tramp hasn't picked anyone independently since he has been in office, and he can't
it just is what it is, and should be clear to all by now, but alas, it isn't
 

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i posted this somewhere else too...

if he takes on what happened in 2016, guess what comes of it???

in ANY investigation, there's the smiling Kenyan...there doesn't have to be an investigation about the fool, he's it
 

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that's funny

mr tramp, these are your choices for AG

what? what if I don't want any of those?

good one my tramp, that's funny, as I said, this is your list from which to choose, pick one

tramp hasn't picked anyone independently since he has been in office, and he can't
it just is what it is, and should be clear to all by now, but alas, it isn't
AND "they" hold little Donald as a form of hostage !
 

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hmmm

i wander...

did tramp pick all those judges by himself? you know, the ones the last cabal didn't refill?

gotta be some potion in his water, some conjuring up of stuff going on here...i smells me a witch
:witch:
 

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they aren't ever going to air dirty laundry in public, ever
One thing is quite clear. Nobody here knows what's really going on.

No leaks as in prior administrations.

Another point we haven't discussed is military tribunals. Those are secret. Obama might not have done anything that can be prosecuted in civilian court, but military court is a whole other thing...

Ever hear of military trials going on? They go on all the time.
 

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naww, he said it because that is what he is told to say,

they aren't ever going to air dirty laundry in public, ever
Yep. Especially the CIA's dirty laundry.
There's no unmasking of Flynn's convo with Kislyak in the FISA records because Flynn was overseas (on CIA turf, not FBI) when he had that convo.
 

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I'm not a big fan of Barr. I don't trust him at all!
 

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Come on you guys and girls and other thingamabobs!

This is a brilliant move that will make libtard heads explode for years to come (assuming they ever figure it out).

Think about it:

ex-POTUS and VPOTUS are untouchable = POTUS DJT and VPOTUS MP are untouchable

We already knew and accepted this as fact, did we not?

But Barr and Durham can go after all the underlings, and hopefully, prayerfully...

Barry's puppetmasters

Comey
Rice
Brennan
Clapper
HRC
Soros
Gates
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right, and they all worked for whom?

lol

no investigation required

the only requirement: Trials
 

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Come on you guys and girls and other thingamabobs!

This is a brilliant move that will make libtard heads explode for years to come (assuming they ever figure it out).

Think about it:

ex-POTUS and VPOTUS are untouchable = POTUS DJT and VPOTUS MP are untouchable

We already knew and accepted this as fact, did we not?

But Barr and Durham can go after all the underlings, and hopefully, prayerfully...

Barry's puppetmasters

Comey
Rice
Brennan
Clapper
HRC
Soros
Gates
....
Excellent point !:2 thumbs up:
 

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Some information is hidden even from Apple, by design, Neuenschwander said, noting that if the company is locked out, so too are “nefarious insiders or malicious hackers.”
Well, not really. Seeing how they were eventually able to open it up without Apples help, other 3rd parties obviously know how to do it already.


you would think trump would be smart enough to just clean house and start with loyal people from scratch. Nope.
While that might have been the best course of action in our opinion, we have to keep in mind that whoever he picks for those positions must be able to successfully get through the confirmation process that takes place in a venue where at least half of those in it are trying to fight anything that Trump does.
 
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Come on you guys and girls and other thingamabobs!

This is a brilliant move that will make libtard heads explode for years to come (assuming they ever figure it out).

Think about it:

ex-POTUS and VPOTUS are untouchable = POTUS DJT and VPOTUS MP are untouchable

We already knew and accepted this as fact, did we not?

But Barr and Durham can go after all the underlings, and hopefully, prayerfully...

Barry's puppetmasters

Comey
Rice
Brennan
Clapper
HRC
Soros
Gates
....
How many will fall on their sword for the king?
 

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Bottom line is the system isn't going to fix itself. There is only 1 way to get our country back with all of the freedoms and god given rights we were born with.
It all has to be torn down. Constitution and bill of rights stays in place and more specific language written to prevent corporations from running the country and unelected officials from writing their own laws. Law needs a complete overhaul with access to the courts open to all. All laws written in accordance with the constitution and in a manner easily understood by everyone.
 

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All laws written in accordance with the constitution
Who or what would be the deciding factor on whether or not the laws that would be written were in fact in accordance with the Constitution?

and in a manner easily understood by everyone.
Everyone? Even those with a low level of intelligence?
Just asking, because the term "everyone" includes a lot of really ignorant people. Heck, half the people I encounter on the streets seem to not be able to understand how a four way stop works.
 

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Bottom line is the system isn't going to fix itself. There is only 1 way to get our country back with all of the freedoms and god given rights we were born with.
It all has to be torn down. Constitution and bill of rights stays in place and more specific language written to prevent corporations from running the country and unelected officials from writing their own laws. Law needs a complete overhaul with access to the courts open to all. All laws written in accordance with the constitution and in a manner easily understood by everyone.
AND those that violate their oath of office, shall be terminated, lose all benefits including their outlandish retirement & face criminal charges with mandatory fines & jail time !
 

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Everyone? Even those with a low level of intelligence?
absolutely!
I mean, why not? even a fool could tell the difference between a good guy and a bad guy

and

we wouldn't need another lawyer...for anything
 

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Who or what would be the deciding factor on whether or not the laws that would be written were in fact in accordance with the Constitution?
Simple just read the Constitution, it is not difficult. 2nd Amend ... Shall not be infringed. Is that hard to understand ? :don't    know2:
 

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Simple just read the Constitution, it is not difficult. 2nd Amend ... Shall not be infringed. Is that hard to understand ? :don't    know2:
No, it isn't. What I was referring to was all the other laws. Who decides if they are in fact in harmony with the Constitution?
Or do you honestly believe that everyone ever elected from then on would only do right?
 

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Barr is involved in many cover-ups, including a network of sexual abuse to minors(The Franklin Credit Scandal). Wake up, folks, this administration is compromised.

 
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What I was referring to was all the other laws. Who decides if they are in fact in harmony with the Constitution?
sure stated a mouthful there of truth,

we all remember kenyan kare, now many pages was just that one?
or how about the recent bailout, again how many pages?

the number of laws 'created' and sent thru with the millions of pages created,

ohhh my goodness what a task

then as stated, who decides whether they follow the constitution or not?
the supremes?
again, kenyan kare, went all the way to the supremes.

or go back to social security, same thing
the fed reserve, again
the ability to declare state of emergency for anything at anytime

we have woven one heckuva mess
 

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tramp hasn't picked anyone independently since he has been in office, and he can't
it just is what it is, and should be clear to all by now, but alas, it isn't
I don't know about that... Jeff Sessions, the first Trump AG, was by all accounts, Trump's personal pick. He was one of the earliest Trump supporters so he was rewarded with the AG job- even though he had no more qualifications for that job than I do. Predictably that all blew up. Sessions had been a perfectly good senator and would have been a shoe-in to keep that job until the day he died. But now Doug Jones, a democrat has his old spot and Sessions is out on his ass.
 

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Who decides if they are in fact in harmony with the Constitution?
That is the responsibility of the USSC.
Congress and Presidents of the past have signed bills into law that the USSC has over-ruled as being unconstitutional.
 

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There's a reason i said many things need to be cleared up in the constitution. General welfare being one of them. For some reason that has been interpreted to mean a bunch of free shit for any single mother. I'm fairly certain that is not what the founders had in mind.
I think we can all agree that there shouldn't be any 2000 page bills passed by anyone anywhere.

And yes every law should be understandable to absolutely every person that completes 8th grade. Do stupid people not deserve the same god given or natural rights as every other individual?
 

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I don't know about that... Jeff Sessions, the first Trump AG, was by all accounts, Trump's personal pick. He was one of the earliest Trump supporters so he was rewarded with the AG job- even though he had no more qualifications for that job than I do. Predictably that all blew up. Sessions had been a perfectly good senator and would have been a shoe-in to keep that job until the day he died. But now Doug Jones, a democrat has his old spot and Sessions is out on his ass.
hey D, think about what you just said though,

tramp plucks one out of the senate, then gone in a couple of years, after a long history of doing exactly nothing
meanwhile, the seat is taken by the enemy

if anyone is playing chess, it is the other side
 

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I'm fairly certain that is not what the founders had in mind.
Back in them days the terms would be "Whores and their bastards". Jus' Sayin'
 

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nearly all the seats are held by the enemy
since JFK, never expected anyone of any significance to see any justice, would have to be living on another planet to expect anything of such,

those always trampy-vestites, so riled up in 2016, thinking somethings going to actually happen, such a comedy show to watch, I was over here trying to knock some sense into them, it just made them more riled up
 

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those always trampy-vestites, so riled up in 2016, thinking somethings going to actually happen, such a comedy show to watch, I was over here trying to knock some sense into them
Says the trampy-vestite who said he voted for Trump in 2016.

I suppose you think we'd be better off right now had the hag won? Lol