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CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS ?

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Wake up America!

Dr. Carson is a very intelligent man, both in surgery and in critical
thinking Everyone must read this as we welcome Muslims into our mainly
Christian country. This has been the underlying premise that has
kept Christianity and Islam at war for almost 2000 years. They cannot
and will not assimilate into any society that does not embrace their
theocratic views. Europe has already suffered a recent invasion of
Muslims under the guise of refugees that will destroy Europe as we
and they knew it. To ignore the same here will be at our peril.
This denial has been the downfall of every non-Muslim nation who has
refused to or has been afraid to believe it - do not fall into the
trap of thinking anyone who is aware is racist or paranoid - the
informed always have the advantage.

I want adults and children to understand this regarding MUSLIMS.

CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to
finish And send it on to everyone. Maybe this is why our American
Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.

Can a good Muslim be a good American?
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia .
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah
except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Kora
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of
Islam and the Quran
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he
turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make
friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullahs, who teach
annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and
beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American
Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes
the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not
allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot
co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The
Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to
as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99
excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation...Perhaps we should be
very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot
be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish,
it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who
understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.

The religious war is bigger than we know or understand!


Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within. SO
FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
 

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Who is asking this stupid question?

Must the DNC or libtards.

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Dr. Carson, But I don't think he was being positive toward them.
 

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Apologies TAEZZAR. I elected to delete my question, but all good.

Golden Regards
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No religiously observant person can be a "Good American" but the question I must ask is why would you want to be one? I also don't want to be a "Good German".
 

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Apologies TAEZZAR. I elected to delete my question, but all good.

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Apologies Uncle, nothing to apologize for ! :gracious:
 

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No religiously observant person can be a "Good American" but the question I must ask is why would you want to be one? I also don't want to be a "Good German".
What are you smok'in ??? :make happy:
 

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They cannot and will not assimilate into any society that does not embrace their theocratic views.
ISLAM is a theocracy, and the word "Islam" is defined as "submit".
Having a Muslim "friend" is like owning a pet snake or alligator. You never know when they will strike. All smiles and hugs until you find yourself bound and tied and getting your head separated from your body.
There is an ancient Arab/Islamic saying:
"A thousand years for revenge".
 

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It is simple, to be a good German/American/ good anything else you must put country BEFORE God, no you cannot serve two masters, pick one.
 

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It is simple, to be a good German/American/ good anything else you must put country BEFORE God, no you cannot serve two masters, pick one.
NO, That is the way Religions Inc. wants you to live.
Northern Ireland, The Crusades, The Inquistions - Spanish & Cathar, Islamic caliphates,.....
 

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NO, That is the way Religions Inc. wants you to live.
Northern Ireland, The Crusades, The Inquistions - Spanish & Cathar, Islamic caliphates,.....
Easy enough, your country wants to draft you to go kill a yellow man in some far off land, your God says thats murder, who do you serve? Your country demands you give them your hard earned money so they can bribe some dictator, what do you do?
 

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Easy enough, your country wants to draft you to go kill a yellow man in some far off land, your God says thats murder, who do you serve? Your country demands you give them your hard earned money so they can bribe some dictator, what do you do?
WHAT DO YOU DO ?
or
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ?
BOTH Government Inc. and Religion Inc are birds of the same feather. BUZZARDS fighting over human scraps.
 

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No religiously observant person can be a "Good American" but the question I must ask is why would you want to be one? I also don't want to be a "Good German".
A good American is nothing more than one who believes in the nations Founding principles.
...and those principles are absolutely not inconsistent with what a religiously observant person would be expected to support.


It is simple, to be a good German/American/ good anything else you must put country BEFORE God, no you cannot serve two masters, pick one.
That's what you're worried about?

"Proclaim Liberty throughout the land to all the inhabitants thereof" Leviticus 25:10
Sounds like America to me.

"Do not be afraid, but speak, and do not keep silent" Acts 18:9
Sounds a lot like freedom of speech to me.

"When a strong man fully armed guards his own house his possessions are undisturbed" Luke 11:21
Sounds a lot like the Right to bear arms to me.

"When He was accused by the chief priests and the elders, He gave no answer." Matthew 27:12
Sounds a lot like the Bible supports the Right to remain silent to me.

"Stand fast therefore in liberty by which Christ has made us free" Galatians 5:1
Sounds a lot like "Rights endowed by our Creator" to me.

"You shall do no injustice in judgement, but in rightousness shall you judge thy neighbor. Leviticus 19:15
Sounds a lot like the Right to be judged by a jury of ones peers to me.
 

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Any ideological nutter is a dangerous person.

I went to school with a handful of Muslims, white European Muslims, A-rab Muslims and black Muslims. They were all good people.
 

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I would answer the original question this way. Yes, a Muslim can be a good American and a group of Muslims can be good Americans. My personal belief, though, is that Islam is bad for America. I think Islam is incompatible with the founding principles of America and will inevitably be at odds with those principles. Islam itself, because of the principles found in the Koran, the Hadith and the Sira and the principles found in sharia law will force continual conflict between Muslims and Western Christians and Western Secularists until The West is gone or Islam is forced out of the West. America can absorb a small minority of Muslims, but it cannot absorb an onslaught of numerous Muslims.
 

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I would answer the original question this way. Yes, a Muslim can be a good American and a group of Muslims can be good Americans. My personal belief, though, is that Islam is bad for America. I think Islam is incompatible with the founding principles of America and will inevitably be at odds with those principles. Islam itself, because of the principles found in the Koran, the Hadith and the Sira and the principles found in sharia law will force continual conflict between Muslims and Western Christians and Western Secularists until The West is gone or Islam is forced out of the West. America can absorb a small minority of Muslims, but it cannot absorb an onslaught of numerous Muslims.
I feel the same way about Judaism... their book won't mesh with American values long term.
 

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I feel the same way about Judaism... their book won't mesh with American values long term.
YOU may "feel" that way but Judaism has a large Reformed / Moderate sect.
Islam and the minority Orthodox Jews do hold to THEIR traditions and beliefs.
Reformation makes all the difference.
 

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YOU may "feel" that way but Judaism has a large Reformed / Moderate sect.
Islam and the minority Orthodox Jews do hold to THEIR traditions and beliefs.
Reformation makes all the difference.
No it does not...
 

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I feel the same way about Judaism... their book won't mesh with American values long term.
Yeah, but how do you feel about the Koran and American values?
 

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CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
No

The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion
says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."
 

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No

The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion
says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."
There’s an old story/song actually about a woman who takes home a freezing snake and cares for it. Similar outcome. Some creatures and some people just don’t care how kind you are, they will kill you anyway. It’s just their nature.
 

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Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."
It is human nature to want to destroy those who make them feel inferior, even if it's not the fault of the latter.
In Arab countries, the Muslims are staunch anti-communists. Yet when the invade White countries and see how Whites are more capable than they are, the ideology of redistribution suddenly appears advantageous to them and they become Democrats.
Inferiority complex is the great motivator. TPTB used it against Whites during the Bolshevik Revolution.
 

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The religious war is bigger than we know or understand!
Hahha - That was a great laugh.

Religion is not only an organization for the faithful. Haans was already here and I know the forum read him.

Muslims vs Jews vs Catholics vs ????? Insert whatever MSM or alternative media talking point you want to. It's all the same, generalities that mean zero.

I know plenty of muslims who wouldn't harm a fly and would be the first to help a christian friend or of any religion.

Generalities and debates inside the matrix.

Muslims aren't stealing two-thirds of everything I earn. Muslims aren't taking away my life liberty freedom prosperity and wealth. Muslims aren't the issue. Stop drinking the kool-aid. White vs black and what large religion someone was born into isn't the problem, although of course that is what the narrative would like you to believe.
 
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Hahha - That was a great laugh.

Religion is not only an organization for the faithful. Haans was already here and I know the forum read him.

Muslims vs Jews vs Catholics vs ????? Insert whatever MSM or alternative media talking point you want to. It's all the same, generalities that mean zero.

I know plenty of muslims who wouldn't harm a fly and would be the first to help a christian friend or of any religion.

Generalities and debates inside the matrix.

Muslims aren't stealing two-thirds of everything I earn. Muslims aren't taking away my life liberty freedom prosperity and wealth. Muslims aren't the issue. Stop drinking the kool-aid. White vs black and what large religion someone was born into isn't the problem, although of course that is what the narrative would like you to believe.
I know plenty of muslims ...


After reading a hundred (?) of your responses on literally any topic that has been discussed here, in an effort to add weight to whatever position you've taken at the time, you commonly include ...

I know plenty of muslims who ...
I know plenty of immigrants who ...
I know plenty of gay people who ...
I know plenty of people in Seattle who ...
I know plenty of homeless people who ...
I know plenty of CPB people who ...
I know plenty of Neo-Nazi-transvestite nuns who ...

I know ... I know ... I know ...




Generalities aside, maybe some perspective from a very smart, well educated Muslim woman ....



https://exmuslims.org/

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m00hamedans arent able to be good human beings
So what do you suggest, if that is your belief, live and let live or do you want to start a race war?

Personally, I don't believe wars and hate are the answer. Generalities also don't seem match up with personal experience.
 

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I know ... I know ... I know ...
Generalities aside, maybe some perspective from a very smart, well educated Muslim woman ....
/MEDIA]
Those are individuals, which includes the ones I've met as well. Subjective opinions are just that.

But I would rather go there and see for my self and use my own subjective views and examinations of things on my own than rely on the MSM or the alternative media to give me their subjective opinions.

Being born in Missouri, I want to see it for myself. Just conveying what I've seen. So to explain that more...

The gov't tells me that I must fear drugs and we must criminalize drugs, when any logical examination of that implies criminals will become very powerful in that model.

See there, doing the thinking on my own, just trying to use my own examination of the issues instead of falling for some pre-packaged debate.

Next is when the gov't tells me I need to fear immigrants. But when I look around I don't see any reason at all to do that and never have. I've seem plenty of immigrants, from the central valley picking strawberries to cleaning toilets in Florida. I've never seen where they are such a danger to our nation.

What the MSM is telling me doesn't match up with what I'm seeing around the nation.

Next, we have people here on this forum who constantly claim we must be ooooh soooo worried about the rif--raf , the homeless, the druggies and lazy folk. But when I look around I don't see and have never experienced a problem with them.

And now here on this thread, I am supposed to forget all about the immigrants, the homeless, the corrupt DA in Texas and back to fearing some religion.

But wait, once again, I've never had a problem with people who were born into that faith any more than with any other large group or religious trait.

Once again, fear this...


fear that....


fear , fear , fear

I'm guessing it makes for a good distraction technique.
 

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Any ideological nutter is a dangerous person.

I went to school with a handful of Muslims, white European Muslims, A-rab Muslims and black Muslims. They were all good people.
I would venture a guess that 95% of Muslims are people we wouldnt mind interacting with, working alongside, etc...

Its the 5% that are the problem...and that problem - left unaddressed...metastasizes every time its allowed to flourish...

It always starts small, and the 5% true believers are always the catalyst. They recruit and attact the weak minded, the gullible and the fearful. As they do so - their numbers increase. It is at about the 20% threshold that the "movement" develops significant momentum as they start demanding things like the right to implement sharia law...

Their increased numbers force the vast majority of the "safe Muslims" into a subservient posture...afraid to act contrary to the "core"...

The problem with Islam is that it always leads to subjugation, murder and domination wherever its implemented. In fact - its designed to effectuate domination and submission...and the murder of those who resist.

Contrast that to AUTHENTIC Christianity where the ideals are loving ones neighbors, doing good to those that wrong you, forgiving others, basically treating others as good as you would treat yourself...

The contrast between authentic Christianity and Islam are night and day.

Islam is a religion of death.
Christianity is a religion of life.
 

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I would venture a guess that 95% of Muslims are people we wouldnt mind interacting with, working alongside, etc...

Its the 5% that are the problem...and that problem - left unaddressed...metastasizes every time its allowed to flourish...

It always starts small, and the 5% true believers are always the catalyst. They recruit and attact the weak minded, the gullible and the fearful. As they do so - their numbers increase. It is at about the 20% threshold that the "movement" develops significant momentum as they start demanding things like the right to implement sharia law...

Their increased numbers force the vast majority of the "safe Muslims" into a subservient posture...afraid to act contrary to the "core"...

The problem with Islam is that it always leads to subjugation, murder and domination wherever its implemented. In fact - its designed to effectuate domination and submission...and the murder of those who resist.

Contrast that to AUTHENTIC Christianity where the ideals are loving ones neighbors, doing good to those that wrong you, forgiving others, basically treating others as good as you would treat yourself...

The contrast between authentic Christianity and Islam are night and day.

Islam is a religion of death.
Christianity is a religion of life.

You hit the nail on the head brother.
 

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I would venture a guess that 95% of Muslims are people we wouldnt mind interacting with, working alongside, etc...... Its the 5% that are the problem...and that problem - left unaddressed...
...The contrast between authentic Christianity and Islam are night and day.
...Islam is a religion of death. Christianity is a religion of life.
OK, so it's starts out as a logical argument, but then concludes with:

Authentic Christianity "VS." the 5% who are criminals (but were born as muslims).

Um.... Wouldn't the comparison work without deceptions, if you said:

Skin Head criminal types (who were born into a Christian Religion) "VS." those 5% muzzys you are soooo worried about?

HAHAHA , this is so funny.

Oh, and the "left unaddressed" part, that's even better. Do you work directly for the MIC or is it some other gov't agency?

"Left unaddressed," hahahha, did you have a plan of attack or is the current War on Terror Bush started good enough?

Tell us then. Since those 5% aren't stealing two-thirds of everything I earn and those 5% aren't slowly taking away my freedoms, liberties, prosperity and wealth - why again, am I supposed to be so afraid, sooooooooo worried if left unaddressed?
 
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OK, so it's starts out as a logical argument, but then concludes with:

Authentic Christianity "VS." the 5% who are criminals (but were born as muslims).

Um.... Wouldn't the comparison work without deceptions, if you said:

Skin Head criminal types (who were born into a Christian Religion) "VS." those 5% muzzys you are soooo worried about?

HAHAHA , this is so funny.

Oh, and the "left unaddressed" part, that's even better. Do you work directly for the MIC or is it some other gov't agency?

"Left unaddressed," hahahha, did you have a plan of attack or is the current War on Terror Bush started good enough?

Tell us then. Since those 5% aren't stealing two-thirds of everything I earn and those 5% aren't slowly taking away my freedoms, liberties, prosperity and wealth - why again, am I supposed to be so afraid, sooooooooo worried if left unaddressed?
You and your delusions...

Authentic Christianity (and I use the word "authentic" deliberately) - improves life wherever it is found and it flourishes.
Authentic Islam (as practiced by teh 5%) - destroys life everywhere it is found and practiced.

You really need to learn more and post less. Your ignorance on certain subjects is readily apparent.

And your ad hominem attacks on me are childish and ill conceived. If you want to converse at the adult table - grow up and start using FACTS and rational arguments...not this childish shit you throw out...
 

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Just replace snake with muzzie. These people did not come here to assimilate into our life style & laws, they came here to conquer & establish their sharia law. If not, they would have stayed home.
 

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Just replace snake with muzzie. These people did not come here to assimilate into our life style & laws, they came here to conquer & establish their sharia law. If not, they would have stayed home....
Sure they are. Sure they did.

So let's see. No longer afraid of the homeless druggies, they're soon to be replaced by the immigrants to REMAIN exactly where dropped off at.

But wait, there's the DA in Dallas, maybe I best worry about him.

Stop! HOLD ON!

It's the Muzzys after all, just like Bush or Obummer told us. Or wait, that was a video of Tramp. Well whoever then, pick whatever traitor to our nation you want to - even yourself - I'm sooooooo convinced - I'm in full fetal position, overcome by fear now.

Matter of fact the single mom down the street who wears a dress that looks a lot like those burka things - and she has some middle eastern sounding name too .... I better position some cameras pointing at her house, she could be a grave danger to me and others on our block.

I'm sooooooooo worried. Let me know when I can come up for air.

Will that be after the race war, or do you think I can stop being afraid sooner?
 

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Sure they are. Sure they did.

So let's see. No longer afraid of the homeless druggies, they're soon to be replaced by the immigrants to REMAIN exactly where dropped off at.

But wait, there's the DA in Dallas, maybe I best worry about him.

Stop! HOLD ON!

It's the Muzzys after all, just like Bush or Obummer told us.


I'm sooooooooo worried. Let me know when I can come up for air.

Will that be after the race war, or do you think I can stop being afraid sooner?
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