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Chomsky: "Has Trump thoroughly distracted you yet"?

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As much as I respect Noam Chomsky despite the fact that he is an avowed left liberal, he does use his brain and often has useful thoughts and insights, he jumps the rails here and has one of those libtard trainwrecks of thought. This trainwreck was destined to happen because Noam started off on a bad, bad premise and went for a total wipeout here. Trump, according to Chomsky, is a "con man", "a showman". Really Noam?!? Start off attacking the man to build your now wholly ruined argument? This doesn't even rise to the level of immature. Noam has stooped, yet again, to the level of dishonest, a shyster or is that scheister? My how the brilliant have fallen...sad.
 

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Chomsky is so full of shit, that he stinks !
 

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As much as I respect Noam Chomsky .... Noam has stooped, yet again, to the level of dishonest, a shyster or is that scheister? My how the brilliant have fallen...sad.
Chomsky is so full of shit, that he stinks !
I am now so utterly convinced Chomsky is a bad person who lies, steals and cheats his way into powerful positions.

Thank you for explaining this to me with your very convincing points.
 

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I am now so utterly convinced Chomsky is a bad person who lies, steals and cheats his way into powerful positions.

Thank you for explaining this to me with your very convincing points.
Show us how smart you are, FM and tell us all why The Chompster is correct.
 

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Let’s break Mr. Chomsky’s argument down, shall we?

First, he claims the Trump administration is working against the best interests of the people. In every case I can think of, he is definitely working for the best interests of the American people; all of them. Getting us out of the TPP and the NAFTA is definitely good for American workers. Balancing trade agreements with foreign powers is definitely good for American business, as is encouraging business to repatriate money held overseas. Appointing judges that will more closely follow Constitutional rule of law is good for the American people, also. Just a few points there.

Second, as far as working to make the elites happy, as opposed to the American people, I suppose they were happy with him pulling out of TPP and NAFTA, as well as the global climate accord. I suppose the fact that all the democRats and all the RINO repukelicans and the whole of the MSM and education and entertainment media absolutely despise him and work tirelessly to depose him as duly elected Commander in Chief proves how hard he is working to make “the elites” happy.

Third, as far as him failing to work to mitigate the effects of “climate change” are concerned, you would have to accede to the idea that anthropogenic global warming is a real thing. Even if global warming is a real thing, if it is non man made, what can we do to mitigate it?

Fourth, as far as nuclear war is concerned, he seems to be doing absolutely everything possible to avoid a confrontation with NK and Russia. Hell, to even imagine he wants a war with Russia, you have to assume the leftist bastards are lying about so called Russian collusion. I do, but then why would I believe them when they say Trump wants nuclear war with Russia? Recently, he had a damn good reason to start a conflict with Iran, but completely backed away from the opportunity. What kind of a nuclear-war monger is he, anyway?

Fifth, he says McConnell and Ryan are carrying water for him, but, for anyone with half a brain who’s been paying attention, it’s a fact that both of those dudes have been working tirelessly against Trump. Ryan more than McConnell.

Sixth, he calls the Republican Party the most dangerous in human history. That’s laughable. They may be inept, spineless fools, but clearly the Rats are more dangerous than the Pukes. I won’t even go into the details.

Seventh, he says we are closer to nuclear Armageddon than at any time in history. See point number four.

I’m just an old, retired working boy, FM and even I can tear old Noam’s argument into tiny bits. He’s lost his marbles.
 

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I think he gets it right for the 1st 2 minutes. After that I felt like he's going after global warming or climate change which is just stupid. So many idiots who have no clue all seem to have an opinion on the climate.

The thing is, it's not just Trump. It's every politician since kennedy and probably way before that.
Yes Government is dismantling everything that would help the common man. Yes Gov only works for corporations. The politicians know the scam. The corporations also know the scam. The scam being the illegal with holding of taxes from the average Americans paycheck. Corporations go along with it because government makes it profitable for them to do so. Politicians want the scam to continue because they derive their power from taxation and money. Take away the fed and taxation and the power returns to the people overnight.
So you walk into a corporation and upon getting hired produce the actual law that tells you who is to sign an I9 and W4 and what an employer is as well as a with holding agent. The corporation says no job for you even though you are just following the law. The governments on board and the courts are also on board. And presto chango we go from a constitutional republic to a socialist state overnight.
 

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Chomsky hasn't said anything intellectually or politically stimulating or even very truthful for at least 40 years.
If more people listened to him there would be drugged out homeless bums shitting on the White House steps today.
Like all globalist socialist dems he clearly hates America and runs it down every chance he gets.

I used to like him. What a fool I was.
 

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One thing I do know, if you don't tell the whole truth, and the entire truth then that isn't going to be helpful and could easily be considered a deception tactic.

Have you ever noticed how when RP is asked about the day the laws of fis iks were suspended, that his reply is about "blow bak' ... Is he telling half a truth because he's afraid to tell the whole truth or does he really believe that?
Not sure anyone on the planet tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Everyone has some agenda. all of us

Chris Hedges, who I consider a modern version of Chomsky comes close to the ideal.

He correctly predicted the rise of the Trump movment in 2011


and now predicts where this movement will take us:


Of course I don't agree with everything Hedges says, but he sure explains the core of our real problem: the rise of the super elite.
 

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We are all being played.... Chomsky is correct, its all distraction based politics!

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We are all being played.... Chomsky is correct, its all distraction based politics!

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You might be the smartest guy around this place, BB, but I think you’re wrong on Chomsky’s assessment of DJT. But, time will tell on that.
 

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Not sure anyone on the planet tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Everyone has some agenda. all of us

Chris Hedges, who I consider a modern version of Chomsky comes close to the ideal.

He correctly predicted the rise of the Trump movment in 2011
Predicting the rise of Trump was a no-brainer. Shrub was an idiot fratboy and total tool of his daddy's world and controllers. Obama was a disaster and Killary was slated to tie all the shit up into a tidy little bag and put a ribbon on it for her masters and they can then just toss it in the trash can. Trump was the easily predictable and expected blowback to all the excesses and attendant horrors of liberalism run amok The problem for the libtards now is that all of totalitarian tools of mass surveillance, their longstanding control of money, their incessant abuse and corruption of every facet of government power and all of their social control schemes are now turned against them. May God have mercy on them because We, the people, the deplorable ones, the dregs of society, the targets of libtard hate, scorn and derision will NOT.

Chris Hedges is a socialist I can and do respect because he is a drooling antifa toddler cry because his diaper's full again. He is an adult and one that learned to use that lump on his shoulders for much more than a mere hat rack. He has that knack for seeing the real or close to the real root of broad picture problems and calling them what they are yet fails to understand problems of a narrower focus and therefore always backs the wrong solutions. Nevertheless he is consistent and always gives it his best shot within the limits of his thinking and abilities. Yes, similar to what Chomsky used to be and in a way similar to James Howard Kuntsler. Have to admire anyone from "left" or "right" who understands their convictions, can articulate them well and stand by them as a matter principle. Even so, I will never agree with their solutions.

and now predicts where this movement will take us:
I disagree. Fascism is the end result of liberalism run amok. Censorship As Seen On TV/Farcebook/Googol/Twatter and all other social and corporate/state media. Yeah, that's from the libtards. But I will be honest here, the repukes are jealous of the left because repukes could never seem to make it work. Then again, libtards can't meme but that's not enough of a difference to call propaganda superiority a wash so the libs win this round...for now.

Fascists indeed can make the trains run on time, every bit as well as they can squelch all liberty and freedom. Ask Mussolini or Goebbels. And this is the goal and nature of the beast...control of you and me as if we are chattel. This is what the democrats/left/libtards are ALL about, yes, even in America. History shows repeatedly that fascism/socialism/communism are all the end product democratic/liberal control.

Trump is at work dismantling all the pre-staging of the left. There will be no American wet dream for the libtards. And the libtards will receive full payment for their efforts to date, tough that payment will not be what they were expecting it will be every bit of what they deserve for their efforts.

Of course I don't agree with everything Hedges says, but he sure explains the core of our real problem: the rise of the super elite.
A succinct and astute conclusion... though somewhat oddly arrived at, minutely similar to Hedges. Perhaps the most important thing here is that this can be done in a civilized manner. We're not pointing guns at each other or shouting death threats at each other or pooping on each others sidewalks. What we do here is part of what America, society and even civilization is about. I'm glad to be able to agree to disagree. And I'm also glad to have differences of opinion because it helps to broaden my understanding and therefore range of consideration. None of us have all the answers yet you can usually count on one of us to have the better answer.
 

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Why is it these opinion pieces from internet celebrities get so much attention? Most people simply don't know how to think for themselves any more so apparently they need 'guidance'!